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Joseph Stuber
Somebody is dumping gold and bonds big time. 10 yr is up to 1.82. Gold down 29. All the while the dollar is plunging. Looks fishy to me.
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Dr. Kris
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Maybe a lot of hedge funds getting poised for major year-end redemptions?
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Joseph Stuber
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Looks like commodity traders are getting ready for a huge sell off in the euro. That's my guess.
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Dr. Kris
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Joe: How is the euro tied to commodities? I'm not an expert in this area.
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realornot
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Joseph: I am picking that up too. I am shorting the EURO to see.
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untrusting investor
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Yes, the euro recent strength seems pretty unwarranted.
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Joseph Stuber
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@ut it sure seems unwarranted to me. There is a lot going on that seems unwarranted.
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Joseph Stuber
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Dr kris the euro/usd relationship largely defines the value of the dollar. A weak dollar drives risk assets/commodities higher.
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Joseph Stuber
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That is particularly true with precious metals. Commodities like corn not as much as supply/demand plays a large role on those.
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Joseph Stuber
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Crude oil too is driven by supply/demand as much or more as dollar strength but the dollar has an impact here too.
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Joseph Stuber
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Dr Kris I just read your bio. Interesting. You seem a little to sophisticated to be asking how dollar strength impacts risk assets.
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Dr. Kris
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Joe: I understand the inverse relationship between USD & commodities; just wanted to know what was so special about the euro...
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Dr. Kris
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...And just because today was risk-on doesn't mean it's always the case, i.e. gold & USD *can* move together.
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Dr. Kris
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For example, since about the third week in Nov., both gold ($
GLD
) & USD ($
UUP
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Joseph Stuber
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Dr Kris I got it. I clearly went well beyond the scope of your question then.
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Dr. Kris
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The euro ($
FXE
) broke out today meaning more upside likely. Euro banks are on the mend & bond rates have fallen, esp. in Italy & Greece.
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Joseph Stuber
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The euro is also up against its upper band on the mean reversion channel on the hourly, daily, weekly and monthly chart.
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Joseph Stuber
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Also, up against the top of RSI on all charts. Eurozone is in a fix as we are. Hard to know which is worse. My bet is down hard.
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Dr. Kris
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Joe: I'm not a fan of the RSI; support/resistance levels are much more telling, at least for me. The $
FXE
seems to be putting in a double...
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Dr. Kris
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...bottom at $120. Looks bullish in all time frames and appears to be forming the classic inverse head & shoulders pattern.
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Joseph Stuber
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Dr Kris Well, I bet we find out pretty quick whether it continues higher or turns lower.
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Joseph Stuber
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. . . at least neither one of us is hedging on our call here.
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Dr. Kris
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BTW, I'm always the one in the room asking the dumb question.
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