• Justin M. Hall
    10/7/12 8:47P ET: { Romney v. Obama } An interesting read => Remarks To The Clinton Global Initiative http://mi.tt/R8vBsW
    10/7/12
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    • Justin M. Hall: Romney: "... a few words from Bill Clinton can do any man a lot of good. (continue)
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    • Justin M. Hall: (continued) After that introduction, I guess all I have to do is wait a day or two for the bounce."
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    • Justin M. Hall: Romney: "... most successful countries shared something in common. They were the freest."
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    • Justin M. Hall: Romney: Regarding the U.S. "...between 1820 and 1998, real per capita GDPM increased twenty-two-fold."
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    • Justin M. Hall: Romney: "Sadly, we have lost over half a million manufacturing jobs over the last three and a half years [under Obama]."
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    • Justin M. Hall: Romney: [Unlike Obama] "I will never apologize for America. (continue)
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    • Justin M. Hall: (continue) I believe that America has been one of the greatest forces for good the world has ever known."
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    • Bildar: Fact checkers are busy catching up with Romney. Another Romney lie busted: http://bit.ly/WEYP6t
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    • Bildar: And another: http://bit.ly/Tj6oB1
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    • Bildar: And another: http://bit.ly/R8xoy8
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    • Justin M. Hall: After the DNC convention & prior to the debate, Romney spike at The Clinton Global Initiative on Tuesday, 9/25/12. Hmmm. That's interesting.
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    • Bildar: And another: http://bit.ly/OMSR3K
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    • Bildar: And another: http://bit.ly/Us8UGw
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    • Justin M. Hall: Bildar: If Romney was lying, you can bet the President would have made the case.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Why aren't other leaders, such as Bill Clinton and other business leaders, coming out saying Romney is lying?
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    • Bildar: Defination of "propaganda" from wikipedia: http://bit.ly/MbqF94
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    • Bildar: Justin: Just wait!
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    • Bildar: Justin: Are you saying Romney's statements that Politifact busted are true?
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    • Justin M. Hall: CNNMoney Survey: What about the 9 economists (53%) who indicated Romney would be better for the economy? Only 3 (18%) chose Obama.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Allen Sinai of Decision Economics said Romney's calls for "cutting growth of government outlays, lowering tax rates and (continue)
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    • Justin M. Hall: (continue) closing loopholes, less regulatory uncertainty ... smaller government and entitlement reform all must be tackled."
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    • Justin M. Hall: Source: Fox via CNNMoney http://fxn.ws/Q655QY
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    • Bildar: Justin: That is a cherry picked group. Cherry picking is just another way of misleading, or lying.
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    • Justin M. Hall: I suppose, they're all liars too. C'mon Bildar. I'm not buying it.
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    • Bildar: Justin: I see that you can count on Fox, which is automatic cherry picking.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Bildar: That's what the losing side does - blames and claims differences are lies.
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    • Bildar: I don't expect you to "buy" objectivity. If you did, you wouldn't be using Fox for your objective source of information.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Why was Reagan so successful? What has Obama done wrong?
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    • Justin M. Hall: On the economy, the President's record is below lackluster at best and terrible at worst.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Obama failed to meet HIS own goals and thereby cannot reasonably defend his record.
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    • Bildar: You are starting to fall into the right wing pattern when confronted with facts. Do I have go through explaining yet another time here?
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    • Bildar: *explaining the pattern.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Confronted with what facts? You have not said anything except that Romney is a liar. You lost me Bildar.
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    • Justin M. Hall: I think we've been typing over one another, hence the confusion. I have read all of your comments.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Bildar, please don't talk down to me. I don't care for that. I am and have been respectful towards you.
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    • Bildar: Fact: Romney is a liar. Check the links that I provided. You can't refute them, so you use intellectually dishonest debate tactics.
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    • Bildar: Info on intellectually honest and dishonest debate tactics: http://bit.ly/H9xjYJ
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    • Justin M. Hall: Just because I do not agree with you does NOT mean I am not objective. I've observed the President's actions closely & don't agree with him.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Deal with my question about Bill Clinton and other business leaders as well as economists - Why aren't they calling Romney a liar?
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    • Justin M. Hall: That has nothing to do with propaganda. C'mon.
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    • Bildar: I'm just posting facts, Justin. Proof of the last can be found right here in this thread.
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    • Justin M. Hall: I have not checked your links. I merely asked you a few questions after you said Romney was a liar.
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    • Bildar: Your first responsibility is to refute the facts. You are avoiding doing so by asking a question.
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    • Bildar: You must be aware that no new statement from Clinton doesn't refute the facts that I presented.
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    • Justin M. Hall: I only posted a link about the Clinton Global Initiative and you said Romney was a liar. No debating here.
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    • Justin M. Hall: I have not read the info at the links above. Can you try to make the case that Obama is claiming?
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    • Bildar: You were quoting Romney. I did the same, through Politifact which also provided a refutation of them.
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    • Justin M. Hall: After you do, I will find info that says your claims are false. Again, I just posted a link about the Clinton Global Initiative.
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    • Justin M. Hall: I thought it was interesting. So, cut my head off. Jeez. :-)
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    • Justin M. Hall: Refuting the remarks he made at the Clinton Global Initiative? Or after the debate?
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    • Justin M. Hall: If you were refuting the debate, it's too late for that now. Obama is the President and could have defended himself. He didn't & lost.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Post debate claims don't matter at this point. Why isn't the President saying this stuff?
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    • Bildar: I'm waiting for you to refute or acknowledge the facts that I presented.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Make your case. I'm listening.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Why is Romney a liar? Who else agrees with his claims?
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    • Justin M. Hall: Or who else supports Obama's claims? I pointed out 9 economists above, but that's cherry picking. Who is supporting Obama's claims?
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    • Bildar: I made my case. The ball has been in your court for awhile now.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Why is Warren Buffet not coming to Obama's defense in the 2012 campaign? Where is Oprah?
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    • Justin M. Hall: Posting six links is not making a case. That's OK. I'm going to go run on my treadmill and finish watching the Saint & Chargers. :-)
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    • Justin M. Hall: I'm not ignoring or dodging you, I'll check back later after I run and respond, if appropriate.
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    • Bildar: Sounds good. I don't want to put you in a tight spot without time to research if you need it. That's not a fair tactic.
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    • X Oil-Field: Gentlemen you are both entitled to your own view(s), that's what makes America great (easy gentlemen) all at SA enjoy the A (civil) debate!
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    • Buddaus: http://bit.ly/SGE4qs
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    • Buddaus: Updated Colorado Presidential Forecast
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    • Bildar: x oil: I like Justin, and in this thread the discussion was a little more 'spirited' then usual. That'll happen now and then.
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    • Bildar: Buddaus: Looks like well designed and very viable model.
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    • X Oil-Field: Yes Sir|Madame..it can & will happen on occasion, yes? You both R doing A fine job of debating the issues at SA. ('to the both of you.. gL')
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    • Justin M. Hall: Bildar: You're a good man, but we just disagree. That's all. I enjoy the discussion.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Buddaus, thanks for posting the updated version of Colorado's findings. I did not know that they had been released. Looking good for Romney.
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    • Justin M. Hall: Bildar I have posted the University of Colorado's prior forecast in stocktalks a number of times - and I got no props. No respect. Jeez. :-)
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    • Justin M. Hall: Thanks x-oil -field. Good to hear from you again.
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    • Justin M. Hall: It's too damn easy to attack people that you don't agree with. I'm no wimp, but damn tired of the division. We need to find common ground.
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    • X Oil-Field: Sir..I do follow your posts,don't have to agree 51%+49% of the time,do find your comments informative,in this regard TY 'for the civil.'
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    • Justin M. Hall: Thanks x oil-field. Appreciate the +feedback.
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    • Buddaus: Like I said, I got your back....
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    • Justin M. Hall: I can hear my conservative friends now - bustin' my balls. :-)
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    • Justin M. Hall: Thanks B!
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    • Justin M. Hall: How about those damn NY Giants today? The Colts had a damn good game as well.
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    • Justin M. Hall: A lot of talented guys playing the game now. It's amazing.
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    • Buddaus: HAHA
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    • X Oil-Field: By the way.. 51%+49% was only an attempt at humor,if there should be any missunerdstanding..yes? (*light hearted humor only)
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