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  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    JRP3 - Ummm...you do understand, of course, that long-haul trucking means two things: range (long haul) and power (trucking...i.e. delivering goods: weight).

    I agree the CNG refueling isn't where it needs to be. Perhaps if the gov had put a slice of the billions it wasted on Solyndra and A123 toward building something real (like refueling stations on the interstate hwy system like the EU and China are doing) then we wouldn't be having this discussion.

    And you act as though EVs can be refueled anywhere - NOT. What are you going to do, run an ext cord out of your hotel room to your vehicle? What if you can't park near your door (carry 2-3 cords...), and how will you sleep with your door cracked open..not to mention the bugs...oh, and how long with it take with a std. 110V hotel outlet? Please, the EV recharging infrastructure is not there for a cross country trip.
    Apr 27 10:24 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    JRP3 - again, there is simply no pragmatism to your thought process. If you can prove to me that all Model-S owners recharge their vehicles from zero emission sources, then your argument holds sway. But we both know this is not the case (at least I do...). And most will simply plug-in into an electric grid that is 40% powered by coal, which emits 50% more CO2 and many toxic heavy metal particulates. Therefore, any logical person would agree, EVs are anything but "zero emission".
    Apr 27 10:21 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    JRP3 - you still don't get my points. What good does greater efficiency do for us if there simply aren't enough vehicles to move the needle. Let me say it again:

    WHERE ARE THE EVs??

    We are simply wasting more time, just like we did with "clean coal" and the ethanol mandates. Meanwhile, the solution is staring us right in the face. How ironic that supposed "environmentalist" are, quite possibly, the most solid group pressing for a myopic "EV future" which is only doing one thing: keeping Americans addicted to gasoline.
    Apr 27 10:17 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Yes, I understand that coal is starting to be used more - Nick Akins, CEO of AEP, said $3.50 MMBtu is the price point. That said, the construction of new coal plants has pretty much stopped, and nat gas has grabbed alot of market share from coal. Btw, I don't think met coal is used for pwr gen is it? Regardless, coal is the worst of the fossil fuels and should be minimized as much as possible.
    Apr 27 10:14 AM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    where are the EVs and solar panels to recharge them? there are only 180,000 EVs on the planet and 15.2 million NGVs - just most outside the US cause we are too stupid to adopt them even tough twe have the lowest nat gas prices anywhere, by far!
    Apr 26 01:35 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    yes, but the margins are much higher refining gasoline.
    Apr 26 01:34 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Julian here are some facts for you about clean:

    nat gas is CH4, you can't get any cleaner unless you go to pure hydrogen (H).

    nat gas emits 30% less CO2 than gasoline, and 50% less than diesel

    nat gas has zero toxic particulates (ZERO). none of the smog and toxic heavy metal related emissions of gasoline and coal (again, nat gas is simply methane CH4).

    what do you not understand about something so simple?
    Apr 26 01:33 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Thanks temachine - and I'll take that trophy!
    Apr 26 01:31 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
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    Julian - your myopic view of nat gas is what is keeping ordinary Americans addicted to gasoline and coal, the dirtiest fossil fuels. Meanwhile, where are the EVs? 180,000 worldwide? Pah-leeze. Meanwhile there are 15.2 million NGVs worldwide - most outside the US, because we are too stupid to take advantage of natural gas prices that are the lowest in the world. If you are worried about hydrocarbon dependencies, then why not debate the emissions calculations for what cutting 4 million barrels of oil out of the transporation sector would do.

    The biggest environmental gain in the world the last few years was the replacement of coal plants by nat gas generation in the US. We could be doing the same thing in the transportation sector by replacing gasoline and diesel with natural gas. Instead, we'll waste another 5-6 years waiting for the mythic EV to solve the worlds problems. What a ludicrous economic and environmental plan. Simply insane.
    Apr 26 01:29 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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    Robert - CNG cars are not heavier than gasoline vehicles, and to say they are more expensive to refuel than gasoline or diesel simply isn't acknowledging that a gas gallon equivalent of nat gas is $1-$2.50 cheaper than either gas or diesel - why do you think fleets, trucks, school buses, and inner city buses are moving toward nat gas? Not to mention it is cleaner and a *domestic* fuel. So what we need is pragmatic evaluation about what is best for the country as a whole, not a single driver's experience with performance or to flash his (supposed) green credentials.

    As to your last question, had the US gov poured the billions it has put into EVs and battery manufacturers and supported NGVs, you bet we'd see superior NGVs available!! And this is why the EU and China are adopting strategic long-term natural gas transportation policies instead of putting their money on the EV distraction.
    Apr 26 01:24 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Dan - If I am wrong, then were is an affordable Tesla the ordinary American can afford? They went upscale for the same reason that wealthy women will spend $1200 on a handbag (because they can). Btw, I was an electronics engineer and designed many consumer electronic related ICs - I understand technology cost curves better than most. But while we have been waiting for the mythic EVs for the last 5-6 years to move the needle, guess what Dan - they have not. And will not for the foreseeable future, and we are *wasting time* and *wasting billions* on it. Failing to do research? How about listening to the engineers at other auto companies Dan whose job it was to directly design EVs? Why do you discount what they have to say? You know more than they do? I doubt it.
    Apr 26 01:17 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    DLB430: while I agree that NGVs will win out in the long run (the economic, environmental, and national security benefits are simply too big to keep it from happening), my problem is with the pace of change. We are still importing $30+ billion a month in foreign oil, and printing money to "pay" for it (i.e. debt). The planet is still getting hotter. Meantime, the gov keeps pouring money into all these ridiculous distractions like "clean coal", EVs, the ethanol mandates, etc. etc. We are wasting precious time and hundreds of billions of dollars....
    Apr 26 01:13 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Dan, please, even if your numbers are correct, you are talking about 70,000 vehicles out of a car fleet of what, 200 million? Think about what you are saying. It is a miniscule fraction of what it takes to move the needle. You need proof that SuperPACs are supporting them? Why do you think the gov has poured billions into EV and battery manufacturers (most of it completely wasted and ending in backruptcies)? Where is the money for NGVs and refueling infrastructure? They won't spend it there (like the EU and China are) because they know it will WORK.

    There are 15.2 million NGVs worldwide and 180,000 EVs.
    I think you need to forget your ideology, step back, look at the facts, and look at the big picture.
    Apr 26 01:10 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Hi Cassina - all I was saying about China was that BYD's foray into EVs was a flop, and now they are retooling. China's latest strategic energy policy centered on nat gas transportation, not EVs. Where EVs are making great in China is in two-wheeled vehicles. But they are recharged predominately by coal and diesel so we are back to where we started (or worse).

    NGVs don't have range problems - thus it being used for "long haul" trucking. Even the Honda Civic GX gets 200-225 miles on a tank, and it wasn't even designed from the ground up to be an NGV. Many NGVs in foreign countries have very acceptable range. EVs? Not so much and who knows what the range will be after the batteries have been recharged once a day for 2-3 years.

    As far as the natural gas/electric vehicle referenced in the article, it is exhibit one wrt SuperPAC control of government energy policy. That vehicle solves every problem every president for decades has complained about: economic, environmental, foreign oil imports, and national security issues related to foreign oil dependence. That car, and Toyota's inability to persuade US "policymakers" to support it, is proof of what I have been saying: there are powerful forces compromising our Congressmen in order to keep us addicted to gasoline and giving us little alternative. Those Congressmen's whole-hearted support of EVs should be the first signal that it, like "clean coal" and the ethanol mandates, are nothing but a big distraction to keep gasoline and coal firmly entrenched. Unfortunately, many supposed "environmentalist" fall for the ruse hook, line, and sinker. Look at the number of people commenting on this article who really believe the Model-S is a zero emissions vehicle and question my engineering skills when I say it is anything but when recharging is taken into account. I mean it's like Jim Jones gave them all Koolaid stirred by rock star Elon Musk himself.
    Apr 26 01:06 PM | Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Tesla Motors Vs. Clean Energy Fuels [View article]
    Nope, none of the 15.2 million drivers of NGVs: bus drivers, refuse drivers, fleets drivers, cabbies, school bus and long haul drivers - None of them are complaining. And this is one reason there are 15.2 million NGVs on the road and only 180,000 EVs.
    Apr 26 12:55 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
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