• Ocean Man
    I have reported the deteriorating quality of Stocktalks to the execs of Seeking Alpha. If nothing is done about it, I am done posting here.
    10/31/12
    Reply (140)
    • Ocean Man: If you have feelings of support in this matter, you can let the Stocktalks moderators know by sending an email to support@seekingalpha.com.
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    • Clayton Rulli: why whats going on?
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    • Ocean Man: I would encourage my followers to include this link in their email: http://seekingalpha.com/s/8txin
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    • Ocean Man: which is just one of many recent examples of trolls wasting my time when I could be finding good ideas to make you money.
      10/31/12
    • westcoastinvests: Wow OM, apparently you really don't like anyone trying to hold you accountable for your claims, I was wrong about ORAN and apologized.
      10/31/12
    • TruffelPig: Much trolling there, indeed.
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    • Will Erlandson: http://seekingalpha.com/s/8u6vb
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    • westcoastinvests: Will, I am sorry but I don't see how my posting of exactly what I ask others to do somehow seems incorrect to you
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    • Will Erlandson: Refer to the same questions I asked, and note what's lacking in your posts that you ask of others.
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    • Will Erlandson: Don't worry, I promise not to try to take away your Jr. Internet G-man badge. ;-)
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    • weed: I've found your post educational. Not sure why you've been singled out.
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    • Will Erlandson: I did. I just wanted to allow others the same opportunity to review and draw their own conclusions.
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    • BK0324: For what it's worth I don't see WCIM.OB as a troll. I actually get what you were asking. I would also like more detail on the trades. But
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    • BK0324: I think it's really hard to post and trade at the same time, esp. when the market is moving fast. Hope this can blow over.
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    • wheelz23: wow...stocktalk drama!!!!
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    • sean.parmelee: I think you need to take a breather, OM. As with the articles on this site, I'm willing to bet that 95% of readers here do not comment at
      10/31/12
    • sean.parmelee: all. You're disproportionately seeing negative commenters here just like you might disproportionately see negative reviews on Yelp or Amazon
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    • sean.parmelee: The "silent majority" here knows who's respectable and who's full of it. One guy's incessant challenges are meaningless.
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    • sean.parmelee: My other comment is that the players here seem to change every few months. The crowd from 2011 is almost completely gone, and I surmise that
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    • sean.parmelee: many of the regulars this year will be gone in 2013 too.
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    • X Oil-Field: Yes,real SA StockTalk drama,I hope.. ALL are doing well with the first day of trading after ''BIG Sandy'' BTW TY @BK for the link R|Lie(s)
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    • weed: sean, I'm sure they all leave once they've succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
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    • pollyserial: Folks who desire 'accountability' for free investment ideas are misguided children. Get a life folks. And OM, keep on! I learn from you.
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    • vinyal: I have to say OM is the reason i hang out at this website.
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    • Bob de'Long: I see nothing wrong with critizing others. I just don't have time to audit talkers' claims of profits. When in doubt, audit.
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    • sean.parmelee: There's a difference between auditing and coming on here hoping to take down someone successful. Most of the people who incessantly hounded
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    • sean.parmelee: Chines probably just wanted to take him down a peg, to prove something. That's pretty lame.
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    • Energysystems: Squirrel! http://bit.ly/T7W5vX
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    • Energysystems: Figured I ought to bring some substance to this soapbox derby ;)
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    • westcoastinvests: Sean, I've no desire to try and take down someone successful, just want people 2 post in honest manner because I think it benefits everyone
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    • BK0324: OM is smart and generous with his sharing of trade ideas. He goes so fast, not sure I could keep up with everything he does, but the few
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    • BK0324: trades I managed to copy were aways profitable. I'm home sick today, or wouldn't have time to hang out and post so much of interest. ;))
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    • X Oil-Field: metink ALL need to take A deep breath and step away just A little and give it A OM break,yes,hell I even had A cig. today to cut the edge.
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    • westcoastinvests: I'l pullback on my commenting about OM's trades, I've made it clear enough about what I believe nothing to gain by continuing to pound table
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    • BK0324: @X - YW! that video was a work of art. ;)
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    • X Oil-Field: CTL yes.. but verify would be A good idea for all, hell..even I check OM & others call(s) before investing & gambling ''my'' funds,yes.
      10/31/12
    • Boatyzaffa: Ocean you are a good trader, I hope you will keep posting! I was just trying to find out what you were actually doing. Please accept my...
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    • Boatyzaffa: ..apology. There is no reason for a witch hunt this Halloween
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    • Toyman317: My portfolio is up .58% today because of OM. Thank you sir.
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    • X Oil-Field: @BK YES it was truly A work of art,the truth will set them.. the' 53% free, hope(fully) :)
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    • fire0nice228: I support you OM! Sent the mods an email as well! THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME SOME MONEY ON NCT! WCIM.OB please go away before you run off one of
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    • fire0nice228: the best posters on this site!
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    • BK0324: what a pretty picture, fire ... is that a hydrangea close up? one of my faves.
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    • Bob de'Long: lol, how do you know OM is successful? To say that, you'ld have to audit 100% of his stocktalks.I don't have the time.
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    • Master Che: Is it too late to place a bet on the fight - 7 to 2 odds in favor of OM, but you never know WCIM.OB could be a southpaw and since
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    • Master Che: he's from the West it could be a problem for OM
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    • Dr. Kris: Master Che: I'll bring the popcorn!
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    • Master Che: thanks with butter please and light on the salt
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    • Youngone91: Ocean Man was born in 1930. He has 33 confirmed Nazi kills
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    • Master Che: with his bare hands - but WestCoast was born in 1990 and has 37 confirmed barrio kills
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    • X Oil-Field: @Dr.K I like the idea of lightly-salted buttered popcorn,but can we also have Brie..ringside @Master Che?
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    • Master Che: Brie = ???
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    • Master Che: he has more on his side - according to the odds maker (Dr. Kris) are you a southpaw??
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    • Master Che: I thought it was an exotic drink or a famous beer from the Congo -
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    • X Oil-Field: @Master Che did not wish to use A clarifying word cheese,out of fear I would turn thread into A political debate, would not want..
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    • Master Che: Heaven forbid mix politics with dealing cards off of the bottom of the deck; after shuffling them as you wish
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    • X Oil-Field: ..would not want to take the chance of being called A liberal for bring the word cheese (Brie) into the thread topic :) X
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    • Master Che: Good choice - who are you betting on to win the fight - don't use the word cheese if possible
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    • X Oil-Field: Don't wish to pick side,I followed their back and forth,not sure of underdog status,but hope both can reach A reasonable understanding,yes.
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    • Master Che: how much money is a reasonable agreement, without using the word cheese
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    • X Oil-Field: Very good question,amount should be the winning positive in their respective bank acct. not attempting to win A StockTalk debate here at SA.
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    • Leont68: Ocean Man keep your investment ideas coming. Where ever you end up posting please let me know, I will follow you.
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    • ssmith90: i agree with Leont68. i have lots of respect for OM
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    • The Silent Majority: The bottom line is that OM's posts are entirely voluntary, so he has every right to post on HIS terms, not anyone else's.
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    • Ong Kang Wei: Support you too OM! It is already very good that OM is wiling to do this for free. Those trying to make trouble for him, why don't you try?
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    • Ong Kang Wei: doing the same? (cont)
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    • bradyc: The thing is they cant. Westcostinvest had contributed nothing here. Oh, perhaps that INTL 60, stop 59.999 was helpful to all of us
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    • Dr. Kris: Master Che: I'm not a southpaw, I'm from the mid-west.
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    • Dr. Kris: I've never been on a message board without some type of drama from time to time. It livens things up and certainly can't hurt business.
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    • Ong Kang Wei: It's true, Dr. Kris, but some appear jealous of OM.
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    • Master Che: Boy looks like a lynch mob -
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    • wheelz23: wow...i can only imagine the backfire if mr viera threated to leave SA...he puts OM to shame...just last week, i was down to my last 100
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    • wheelz23: bucks...then mr viera took me under his wing...now, i'm a multimillionaire...THANK YOU MR VIERA!!! top that OM!!
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    • wheelz23: which brings me to this...why didn't westcoast ever call mr viera out? that's the type of guy that needs to be kept out of SA, not OM
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    • realornot: wow, OM, what is happening? I was out for awhile and SA talks have deteriorated. Did I cause that????
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    • westcoastinvests: Because Mr. Viera is so clearly fraudulent it is pointless to worry about him
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    • Dr. Kris: Yay! real's back! Yes, it's all your fault. You're not out trick or treating???
      11/1/12
    • X Oil-Field: Agree (may B) it's realornot fault,but,back to business of trying to make A penny.@WEST OM & other can post as they wish same for all,yes?
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    • Master Che: yes - only if you don't use the word cheese near the elections --developing a key reversal pattern -- http://bit.ly/Nz9iQD
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    • TruffelPig: Hey real, welcome back! Can't wait for your completely random comments ;P
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    • X Oil-Field: @Truff +1,I do not even know the person other than here at SA he was missed,now where is @DAL the puppet man!
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    • X Oil-Field: @Master Che - yes, more Brie please..X :)
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    • lexluther1: This is lame!!!!
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    • Perkins Cove: It will be interesting to see if SA tries to bring an end to this sillyness, or continue to allow Stocktalks to remain a free-for-all.
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    • Perkins Cove: I know OM has taken much more hassle than I ever would. I hope he stays, and continous to try to help all here on Stocktalks.
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    • X Oil-Field: Agree @R+1,there needs to be more civil-ness at SA StockTalk not less,all should feel open to share investment ideas with concern 4stalking.
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    • X Oil-Field: *The comment 'stalking' was not to imply this was the case here,but, sometimes.. it can be A developing concern.
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    • TruffelPig: Spreading lies isn't civil - even when followed by an apology AFTER being told.
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    • westcoastinvests: I am sorry but I don't spread lies, I made one mistake about a fact that wasn't true which I apologized for quickly.
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    • Master Che: kill the thread - enough is enough - life goes on
      11/1/12
    • JayWright: Westcoast, with all respect, let it go. let OM post without fear of you popping up auditing him. he has helped tons on SA, if you drive...
      11/1/12
    • JayWright: ...him away, you stand to lose the respect of everyone on SA who follows OM and profits from his trades. let it go.
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    • westcoastinvests: I am letting it go
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    • Perkins Cove: Good.
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    • Leont68: second that
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    • Ocean Man: More lies from Westcoast. The truth is he's been proven to be lying 7 times about me in my posts. Each time he presented no evidence, and I
      11/1/12
    • Ocean Man: responded with links proving him wrong. 3 times he admitted to being wrong, which makes his claim above of 1 mistake another lie,
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    • Ocean Man: and the other 4 times he deleted his slanderous comment, something he does on a regular basis, which makes it look like my replies back to
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    • Ocean Man: him are unwarranted or not civil. He passes judgement on the credibility of others, yet has none himself. He justifies his persistent lying
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    • Ocean Man: by saying he's trying to raise the level of honesty in this forum, yet he is the most dishonest poster in this forum BY FAR.
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    • Boatyzaffa: As Master suggested please kill this thread
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    • Perkins Cove: OM, your turn to let it go. Get on with helping others, thats your forte.
      11/1/12
    • Ocean Man: I'm tired of providing links to prove you're lying, I've done it too many times and one more wouldn't raise my credibility or lower yours.
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    • Ocean Man: Anyone who read my CLCT thread yesterday can read it again today and see that west's comment about my posts being ego-driven was deleted.
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    • westcoastinvests: move on, I am sorry I was wrong yesterday, make good posts if I feel like adding my input I will do so, I wish you best of luck.
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    • sean.parmelee: Delete this thread and move on.
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    • Ocean Man: Rialto - the last word in my thread will not be an insult and an accusation of me lying. West can get the last word in his own threads,
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    • westcoastinvests: ha yes I will try and let it go, again
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    • JayWright: This is reaching comedy level. If I can't obtain any knowledge from this thread, might as well get a couple laughs in. HA HA!!
      11/1/12
    • Ocean Man: which would be a nice change from his threads ending with "stopped out".
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    • Master Che: please delete this thread -
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    • bradyc: yeah let's go back to business. We all want to make money here
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    • JayWright: OM hit 'em with a math equation!
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    • westcoastinvests: Ha, I guess I will have to be the bigger man OM. best of luck
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    • JayWright: nice "bus driver uppercut" from OM with the "stopped out" diss! WC is staggering...
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    • wheelz23: i've always enjoyed trader14/westcoasts input...some might not like him, but his intentions are good...OM posts many trades, i just think
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    • wheelz23: it's hard for westcoast to follow each one of them, and that's where the problem lies
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    • Master Che: IMO - traders should only follow their own trades and not others - what does it matter what somebody else is doing - if it does matter -
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    • Master Che: then you shoul'd be investing in the stock market alone on your own decisions I don't post trades anymore because of the negative feedback
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    • westcoastinvests: I would prob agree with you Che, I won't be commenting on OM anymore, I've posted far fewer trades then previously as well.
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    • Master Che: I believe its best to only worry about your own bank account - not others - and I strongly believe traders must put on positions only
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    • Master Che: according to their own personal bias, not others - I was posting my trades in effort to help the other traders and was astonished with the
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    • Master Che: feedback from a few, accusations pertaining to my character ; as such IMO that those biting my heels were simply jealous of those that are
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    • Master Che: dynamic - Westcoast; you're not one of those - so why concern yourself with others -its hard enough just to trade successfully, why make it
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    • Master Che: more difficult
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    • westcoastinvests: Che agree with you 100%, I admit I have been over zealous in my attempts to make sure that the difficulty of trading was not being masked
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    • westcoastinvests: All of my criticism has always been aimed at those who IMO make trading appear to b easier then it really is by not posting accurate results
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    • westcoastinvests: I don't want 2 get into attacking back an forth so I realize that I will have 2 change my approach and let everyone uncover their own truths
      11/1/12
    • Master Che: What does it matter if OM is 100% real or not - just worry about yourself - not what others are doing, or say what they're doing -
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    • Leont68: I bought some FB calls on Oceans recommendations and made a 84 percent return. true story
      11/1/12
    • westcoastinvests: Che, that is what I am accepting, one can really hold themselves to a standard and just worry about that.
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    • westcoastinvests: Leont, yes OM has made many good calls that was never in dispute, my issue was the attention paid to the wins while losses not mentioned
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    • Leont68: I am sure people would have called OM out if they made his recommended trades and lost money.
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    • TruffelPig: No, people would have not called him out........the risk is on the investor, not OM. Up to you to follow or not.
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    • Master Che: TruffelPig - so true
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    • Boatyzaffa: If someone makes a claim they should be able to back it up.
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    • bradyc: I lost some following OM's trade. I made more following his trade. Problem is, his pocket and timeframe is different than mine
      11/1/12
    • bradyc: so I have nothing to complain about. I like his recommendation, it is working most of the time, and it is free
      11/1/12
    • Ocean Man: I can't believe you guys are still talking about this when we could be talking about how my pick from yesterday SN just went parabolic.
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    • bradyc: that's because I didnt get into SN like you! now can you get CLCT to go parabolic too?
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