Freeport-McMoran: Dead Money Until Copper Prices Recover [View article]
Actually the conversion when FCX is below 61.25 is 1.6327 shares. Thus the premium or parity of the cv pfd is very small right now: 1.6327 x 16.80 FCX= 27.42, with FCXpfM trading about 32.50. Thus the pfM will get a direct play on the stock while paying a huge yield. In my opinion buying the stock over the pfM would be almost criminally negligent right now. www.quantumonline.com/...
On Dec 05 03:44 PM SouthShore wrote:
> First Davy, decent write up. Thanks. Will look for any comments > from FCX investor relations that you post. > > Regarding the preferreds: The convertible preferred mentioned above > isn't as attractive as I thought at first glance. As long as FCX > common moves down, then the payout from the FCXpM convertible preferreds > is more like a return of capital with the preferred share price not > rebounding. Upon conversion you won't have a dividend to look forward > too, either. Thus, unless you can buy the convertible at a large > discount to its conversion including cumulative dividends, then you > are just buying the common. Probably better is the FCXGL preferreds > that can't be redeemed unless the common shares trade above $69.14/sh. > I would like to hear thoughts on this PK. They are cumulative and > perpetual. > > Also, if Copper returns to historic levels below $1/lb and stays > there, can anyone be confident that FCX is viable long term? Again, > the more models the better here. I put FCX under $10/sh as a guess > if this happens. > > Cheers,
Freeport-McMoran: Dead Money Until Copper Prices Recover [View article]
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On Dec 05 03:44 PM SouthShore wrote:
> First Davy, decent write up. Thanks. Will look for any comments
> from FCX investor relations that you post.
>
> Regarding the preferreds: The convertible preferred mentioned above
> isn't as attractive as I thought at first glance. As long as FCX
> common moves down, then the payout from the FCXpM convertible preferreds
> is more like a return of capital with the preferred share price not
> rebounding. Upon conversion you won't have a dividend to look forward
> too, either. Thus, unless you can buy the convertible at a large
> discount to its conversion including cumulative dividends, then you
> are just buying the common. Probably better is the FCXGL preferreds
> that can't be redeemed unless the common shares trade above $69.14/sh.
> I would like to hear thoughts on this PK. They are cumulative and
> perpetual.
>
> Also, if Copper returns to historic levels below $1/lb and stays
> there, can anyone be confident that FCX is viable long term? Again,
> the more models the better here. I put FCX under $10/sh as a guess
> if this happens.
>
> Cheers,
Freeport-McMoran: Dead Money Until Copper Prices Recover [View article]