Instead of arguing over something that really isn't that important in the scheme of things, I will issue an updated article. This article will include a thorough analysis of the discount brokerage industry making use of the Five Forces Model, a value chain analysis, recent industry trends and company news releases, and will make use of a DCF that will incorporate 3 scenarios (Base Case, Bear Case, Bull Case) with sensitivity tables, an LBO model, comparable multiples, and comparable transactions. I will also look to value any imbedded real options within Investool shares to cover all the bases in my valuation framework. If I am missing anything, please let me know.
Also, you can accuse me of being a sore loser all you want, but it can also be said that you're a sore winner. I clearly conceded the argument stating that I was incorrect, asked for positive feedback, and all you had to say was that you were wasting your time. Let's not have double standards, shall we?
Mr. Chungst, you may be the most negative person I have come across. It ceases to be a useful debate when Mr. Chungst has nothing positive to say whatsoever and clearly shows a complete lack of skill with the English language. Enjoy your misery!
To highlight more of your subtle writing skills, I came across this comment on Paul Kedrosky's article on Bill Miller:
In the Asset Management industry, rather than speculate if a perticular asset manager beat an index by luck or chance, the industry normal is to look at the fund's performance attribution over time.
Industry normal is incorrect. Industry standard is the correct phase. Go take some English lessons!
The aphorism you mentioned is an incomplete thought in the English language. I think you meant to put forth the following well quoted aphorism- Who's the more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?
Interestingly enough, Obi-Wan also quoted this aphorism in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, right after the Millennium Falcon enters the Death Star. Why this is relevant is beyond me, but I hope you would find this amusing.
Chungst, do you have any thoughts of the impact of possible customers who are dissatisfied with the Investools product and the affect it will have on future growth for Investools going forward? It seems that reviews for the product are mixed based on comments I have read on discussion boards, with some students very satisfied with the company's products, including yourself, while others haven't been as successful. The recurring revenue business model for Investools looks very favorable, and the DART stats are excellent to say the very least, giving management a good handle to manage growth and giving investors some good visibility. I'm trying to figure out what the downside risk is as I like to focus on this before even contemplating the upside. Again, thank you for helping me understand Investools business model.
See the following link to comments to the article published on joecit's website: joecit.com/2007/03/13/...
I took offense to the following comment: "his analysis comes across as something conceived and written in thirty minutes."
I still see INVESTools as a faddish product, distinct from ThinkOrSwim, which based on recent metrics is an excellent business. I also acknowledged the company's business model in my reply, showing that I do understand how the company makes money.
Thanks for your criticism as it has been helpful. Have a good Thanksgiving.
I welcome any intelligent debate, although do not appreciate how you begin your criticism with a personal attack, which is considered bad form in any argument. I concur that based on the facts you have laid out, their business model, with a significant amount of recurring revenue and ability to scale, is attractive. Furthermore, ThinkorSwim and Prophet.net enhance this value, which you correctly pointed out.
Still, my main concern is the product itself, as I don't see how helpful this product really is for the company's target audience of retail investors. Until I see some data that shows users outperforming the market, I will remain skeptical. Ultimately, one must ask if the customer is really better off for using INVESTools. In my opinion, the long term viability of INVESTools hinges on this fact.
On the other hand, you have mentioned that as a subscriber, and I would assume as an institutional investor (as you have your MBA and CFA), you appreciate their product as it provides timely financial information for a low cost of $50/month, especially Prophet.net, which is a lot less than Bloomberg and other types of information platforms. If this is the case, then perhaps the company should be focusing on institutional customers, as opposed to marketing their product to retail investors.
I appreciate your detailed commentary, as it was well informed and tells me that at least someone is reading my articles. If my writing invokes debate, all the better. Only through rigorous analysis and questioning of facts can we ultimately arrive at the truth.
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Best,
Paul Simenauer
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To highlight more of your subtle writing skills, I came across this comment on Paul Kedrosky's article on Bill Miller:
In the Asset Management industry, rather than speculate if a perticular asset manager beat an index by luck or chance, the industry normal is to look at the fund's performance attribution over time.
Industry normal is incorrect. Industry standard is the correct phase. Go take some English lessons!
The Short Case on INVESTools [View article]
Interestingly enough, Obi-Wan also quoted this aphorism in Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope, right after the Millennium Falcon enters the Death Star. Why this is relevant is beyond me, but I hope you would find this amusing.
The Short Case on INVESTools [View article]
The Short Case on INVESTools [View article]
See the following link to comments to the article published on joecit's website: joecit.com/2007/03/13/...
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Prophet.net subscriptions:
Bronze- $35 a month/$350 a year.
Silver- $45 a month/$450 a year.
Gold- $65 a month/$650 a year.
Over 100,000 active subscribers to Investools Online, Prophet.net, and Investools FX as per 11/9 press release.
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I still see INVESTools as a faddish product, distinct from ThinkOrSwim, which based on recent metrics is an excellent business. I also acknowledged the company's business model in my reply, showing that I do understand how the company makes money.
Thanks for your criticism as it has been helpful. Have a good Thanksgiving.
The Short Case on INVESTools [View article]
Still, my main concern is the product itself, as I don't see how helpful this product really is for the company's target audience of retail investors. Until I see some data that shows users outperforming the market, I will remain skeptical. Ultimately, one must ask if the customer is really better off for using INVESTools. In my opinion, the long term viability of INVESTools hinges on this fact.
On the other hand, you have mentioned that as a subscriber, and I would assume as an institutional investor (as you have your MBA and CFA), you appreciate their product as it provides timely financial information for a low cost of $50/month, especially Prophet.net, which is a lot less than Bloomberg and other types of information platforms. If this is the case, then perhaps the company should be focusing on institutional customers, as opposed to marketing their product to retail investors.
I appreciate your detailed commentary, as it was well informed and tells me that at least someone is reading my articles. If my writing invokes debate, all the better. Only through rigorous analysis and questioning of facts can we ultimately arrive at the truth.