Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Philip Morris [View article]
As stated in this article (and all our articles): "Since 1998, WhisperNumber.com has been tracking and publishing "crowd sourced estimates" for earnings. We call these earnings expectations whisper numbers. Our whisper numbers are gained from individual investors and traders just like you that have registered with our site. While the whisper number itself is an important part of our analysis, a company's "price reaction" to beating or missing the whisper number expectation is the key". As for 'questionable and self-serving results', 15 years of proven data, and two independent academic studies say otherwise.
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Absolutely, too numerous to track, and that's a great point. There is a great deal of (overwhelming) noise in and around an earnings report. We just happen to have found an indicator based on 'expectations' that has a very good track record (based on the past 15 years of earnings reports and earnings expectations). We're looking at a proprietary piece of data (the whisper number) and the average price expectation of 47 earnings reports. The only factor (for us and our clients) that we're waiting for right now is whether or not BAC misses or beats the whisper number.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Coca-Cola [View article]
You do make a very valid point re: the buy and hold. Our articles are based on companies that we gain whisper numbers for each quarter. So we do feel that we need to provide an article for all companies that gain some attention from investors/traders. There are more than likely short term traders of KO and the information provided should be useful. For long term investors (even greater than thirty post earnings trading days) our data is not as useful (although it could be used as a buy in point if data indicates short term weakness (say within five or ten trading days) followed by strength. Buying at the peak expected weakness may provide a better entry price if you're looking to add or start a long position). This may not be the case with KO, but we're also writing for the masses. So newer or less experienced traders may find the KO information more useful than a more experienced trader/investor.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Coca-Cola [View article]
That is the point - other articles (or services) may tout the stock as a trade worthy at this time, but or data (obviously) indicates not only limited post earnings price movement, but inconsistent price movement. For the non buy and hold trader, this is important data to be aware of. There is value in doing your 'price movement' homework if/when investigating a potential trade.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
You keep threatening that 'this is my last comment', 'all I am doing is being constructive'. Your actions and statements prove otherwise. I've read through your other 'constructive' comments to other articles. Seems anything negative about Citi (or any other stock you appear to be long) is responded to as 'you're not being fair and balanced', or 'you're missing the point'.
It's amazing to me that when you agree with the article, its all positive. When you disagree the writer is 'wrong' or not presenting properly.
I'm going to remind you that you started off with "This article doesn't make sense at all."
If you don;t agree with the methodology or data presented, so be it, and move on. No one is forcing you to read our articles.
Here, let me end this for you: You are correct. We are wrong and all our articles contain erroneous, inconclusive, and bias data that should not be read. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will make the necessary adjustments to meet your needs.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
"This article doesn't make sense at all." "it doesn't serve any purpose besides misleading readers" "you're unqualified to make any assessment of any kind at all" "the conclusion of your article to be misleading, biased and untrue" "you seem to have a complex problem"
So that's what you consider constructive criticism? Do you even read what you write?
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
So what should we present that would encompass 'the other side of the story'? We are not here to provide a full on technical analysis of Citigroup. We have full knowledge (expertise if you will) on the earnings data we collect, and can only present that data and analysis. If you are looking for an opinion piece, or a technical analysis piece, than our articles are not for you. We can't say 'our data indicates positive price movement' because it doesn't. Is there other data out there that shows positive price movement? Sure, but we have no expertise in that other data.
No offense taken, we just don't want you dictating what our articles should provide or do provide. That is misleading to others that bother to read comments.
For whatever reason, you believe a valid article is one that states "Citigroup is a buy because XYZ, while at the same time it is a sell because XYZ". That's fine (for you), but this article is based on one aspect - earnings expectations and price reaction. If you consider eleven years of earnings data insignificant or bias (again, not just the earnings reports that showed negative price movement but ALL earnings reports), than that is your opinion. But it certainly is not bias (let alone nonsensical as you initially stated) in any way.
As for our price expectations, we do look at intra-day price movement - in other words from market open to market close (no after hours or pre-market movement is considered). We could go into great detail about the data, but SeekingAlpha does not allow us to do that as it would appear to be an 'advertisement' versus an actual article of information. So we didn't write the article to support the price movement, the price movement supports the data analysis.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
We're not focused on 'negative aspects of Citi's prospects' - the data analyzed just happens to indicate negative price movement. So where is the bias? The **data** analyzed indicates negative price movement. How would you suggest we focus on the 'positive' data if its just not there for what we analyze?? You want us to just make up some sort of positive spin when its not there?? The data we do consider (based on eleven years worth of earnings information) has been quite accurate in determining stock movement. If this were one persons 'opinion' or 'thought' then there can be bias. Again, there are no opinions here. You're looking for something that just isn't there. And as for the today's market - $C opened trading today at 46.10, and currently trades at 45.84. Pretty much in line with the data analysis presented.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
We're not sure how much more clear we can make our articles - the average price reaction to beating or missing the whisper number over 45 quarters is negative. Was that not clear in the article? There is no agenda and no opinion, just analysis of earnings data and post earnings price movement.
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Honestly, I didn't understand the point (or points) of your comment. Were you making a comment about the article or just making some random comment where only you know the true meaning?
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It's amazing to me that when you agree with the article, its all positive. When you disagree the writer is 'wrong' or not presenting properly.
I'm going to remind you that you started off with "This article doesn't make sense at all."
If you don;t agree with the methodology or data presented, so be it, and move on. No one is forcing you to read our articles.
Here, let me end this for you: You are correct. We are wrong and all our articles contain erroneous, inconclusive, and bias data that should not be read. Thank you for bringing this to our attention. We will make the necessary adjustments to meet your needs.
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
"it doesn't serve any purpose besides misleading readers"
"you're unqualified to make any assessment of any kind at all"
"the conclusion of your article to be misleading, biased and untrue"
"you seem to have a complex problem"
So that's what you consider constructive criticism? Do you even read what you write?
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
No offense taken, we just don't want you dictating what our articles should provide or do provide. That is misleading to others that bother to read comments.
For whatever reason, you believe a valid article is one that states "Citigroup is a buy because XYZ, while at the same time it is a sell because XYZ". That's fine (for you), but this article is based on one aspect - earnings expectations and price reaction. If you consider eleven years of earnings data insignificant or bias (again, not just the earnings reports that showed negative price movement but ALL earnings reports), than that is your opinion. But it certainly is not bias (let alone nonsensical as you initially stated) in any way.
As for our price expectations, we do look at intra-day price movement - in other words from market open to market close (no after hours or pre-market movement is considered). We could go into great detail about the data, but SeekingAlpha does not allow us to do that as it would appear to be an 'advertisement' versus an actual article of information. So we didn't write the article to support the price movement, the price movement supports the data analysis.
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