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  • Earnings Season Trading Strategy: Time To Catch Falling Knives [View article]
    Just be careful about a comment like "the company fell short of expectations" which may imply "many companies see weakness when missing analysts estimates". There are no studies and no proven correlation between companies seeing strength or weakness when they beat or miss analysts estimates. See http://seekingalpha.co...
    Jul 15 09:45 AM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • To Trade or Not to Trade: An Apple Earnings Preview [View article]
    Estimate revisions? Really? Zacks? Really? Analysts? Really?That's your rebuttal to our 'skimpy analysis'? Guess we'd rather be skimpy than without value...

    "With trading volumes down on Wall Street and commission rates near record-low levels, brokerage firms are starved for the revenue that stock trading used to provide. Since changes in earnings forecasts encourage many investors to buy or sell, analysts have an incentive to revise their predictions more often. But that hasn't made the forecasts more accurate. On average, according to Denys Glushkov, research director at WRDS, stock analysts are revising their earnings forecasts nearly twice as frequently as they did a decade ago. And while the typical forecast missed the mark by 1% in the 1990s, that margin of error has lately been running at triple that rate."

    Wall Street Journal, July 2nd, 2011
    online.wsj.com/article...

    No need to reply or comment on or read our skimpy analysis, I see you've been drinking the kool aid for quite some time.
    Jul 15 10:31 PM | 3 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Buy Xerox: An Undervalued And Underappreciated Capital Deployment Opportunity [View article]
    Based on the comments alone I never new there was so much emotion surrounding Xerox....you surely ruffled some feathers. And apparently if you read the transcript of an analysts call you have no authority to write about it...

    Good article, thank you.
    Feb 27 08:49 AM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
    How does the article read like an ad? And how is your link not considered spam/ad?

    What is the source of your 'pro-analysis' whisper? And what happens if AAPL beats or missed that 'pro' whisper? Has it moved higher or lower as expected? How many quarters of data is it based on? Or is it just a number with no real value for trading?

    Do you think the 'professional' analysts are on your side? Should read this http://bit.ly/NGWZhy, pay attention to myth #3.
    Jul 23 04:10 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Yahoo, AMD, Apple [View article]
    I've yet to hear an argument against doing your own homework. While I believe I have some insight into certain specific data (ie whisper numbers), unlike others I don't think that our data is the "be all end all". So many on here just fight that "this is right and you are wrong" versus "let me keep an open mind and review data and see if it can work for me". I don't get it, so many let emotions get in the way of valid data and better trading. Oh, well, their loss I guess.
    Jan 24 04:08 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • The Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Yahoo, AMD, Apple [View article]
    Good input and data relevant to the article, thanks for posting Vet.
    Jan 24 01:40 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Playing The Apple Whisper Number [View article]
    And where does earningswhispers get their number from? You're very adamant about the 10.01 number not being the whisper, but seem very sure and confident that the other numbers are absolute and true. Why?
    Jan 23 05:55 PM | 2 Likes Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Cisco [View article]
    In regard to GE, we stated in our GE earnings article:
    "The average price movement through thirty trading days when the company reports earnings is negative (beat the whisper see weakness, miss and see weakness)."
    see http://seekingalpha.co...

    So you agree that earnings price movement analysis is not valid based on what was stated in the article actually taking place?
    May 15 01:05 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
    Just confused as to why you make it personal against the data provided. No, the data is not representative of all investors/traders and we do not state such, but over 15 years it has proven itself accurate in determining post earnings price movement. The article is not 'trying' (as you indicate) to present anything other than factual data and earnings expectations from a group of individuals that have proven a good bit of accuracy and value over time. That type of comment makes you come across as paranoid.

    We saw similar comments last quarter when our data indicated a much higher number than the analysts, but AAPL topped those expectations. So again, no agenda here, not 'trying' anything, just presenting data.
    Apr 23 01:26 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Bank Of America [View article]
    Absolutely, too numerous to track, and that's a great point. There is a great deal of (overwhelming) noise in and around an earnings report. We just happen to have found an indicator based on 'expectations' that has a very good track record (based on the past 15 years of earnings reports and earnings expectations). We're looking at a proprietary piece of data (the whisper number) and the average price expectation of 47 earnings reports. The only factor (for us and our clients) that we're waiting for right now is whether or not BAC misses or beats the whisper number.
    Apr 16 03:58 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Staples [View article]
    At least you put it out there, win some lose some...
    Mar 6 11:28 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Why Analysts Are Dead Wrong On Immunogen [View article]
    Help me understand the "Analysts are usually correct" statement. Do you mean in general or specific to IMGN?
    Jan 31 08:36 AM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Facebook (FB): Q4 EPS of $0.17 beats by $0.02. Revenue of $1.59B (+40% Y/Y) beats by $60M. Shares -7% AH. CC at 5PM ET (webcast). (PR[View news story]
    whisper number was 17 cents:
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    Jan 30 04:14 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Earnings Preview For Citigroup [View article]
    That article is still pending release by seekingalpha - should be out shortly. $BAC whisper number is $0.14, twelve cents ahead of the analysts estimate. Whisper numbers range from a low of $0.04 to a high of $0.23. BAC has a 54% positive surprise history (having topped the whisper in 25 of the 46 earnings reports for which we have data).
    Jan 16 02:05 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
  • Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
    More than likely we made the same comment last quarter and the quarter prior to 'insight' like yours, but we'll say again: our focus is on price movement around earnings reports. We've never focused on or stated that a company will 'miss' or 'beat' any number. We provide an expectation (collected from investors and traders) and we provide some basic historical price movement analysis. Any 'number' taken by itself (as you have done) can't help you make a better trade - but if you are able to determine how a stock will react to beating or missing that number, then you have important additional information that can help you. If you choose to ignore that part of the article, then you've missed the point. And if you think there's value to only comparing our number to analysts then you're really missing the point. Take the number for what it is - an earnings expectation. Then take the analysis for what it is - in this case , and as stated in the article that perhaps you didn't read, "the key to playing Apple earnings, however, is the expected price reaction. Historically the after-hours move is positive, averaging +3.6% to 5.6%. The stock tends to give up ground over the next 10-to-20 trading days, but the move is very limited (around 2.0%). The stock then sees strength through 30 days (averaging about 5% to 6%)." If that is wrong, then our historical data analysis was wrong (in this particular instance). Pretty simple.
    Jul 23 04:01 PM | 1 Like Like |Link to Comment
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