Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
The 2% is an intra day move - as indicated in the article, 'Last quarter the company topped a very confident whisper number by thirteen cents. After hours saw a 10.5% price drop, and the stock is down 12% to date'.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
Appreciate the comments, and you touch on a main reason we collect the expectations we do - 'Oppenheimer sounds like he wants to create more realistic estimates, or at least reduce people's expectation of constantly beating the number by some huge margin so that when it does, it'll pop more', and that may very well be the case. But expectations will take some time to catch up to reality. For now, it appears these statements (from Op) have been ignored, and expectations remain high, and expectations (tend to) move markets.
As for the second point, we have heard similar requests primarily from options traders. We haven't taken the step to provide the information yet.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
Just confused as to why you make it personal against the data provided. No, the data is not representative of all investors/traders and we do not state such, but over 15 years it has proven itself accurate in determining post earnings price movement. The article is not 'trying' (as you indicate) to present anything other than factual data and earnings expectations from a group of individuals that have proven a good bit of accuracy and value over time. That type of comment makes you come across as paranoid.
We saw similar comments last quarter when our data indicated a much higher number than the analysts, but AAPL topped those expectations. So again, no agenda here, not 'trying' anything, just presenting data.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Showing Confidence [View article]
We agree with you, but we do like to present both the long and short term analysis of our data. Overall we believe the micro views are more significant (at least for now).
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
You're a walking contradiction: you stated that "AAPL will crush $11.02 by at least a dollar". So by your own standards you are useless.
Then you compare our short term (within thirty days of earnings) data to six months - apples and oranges, but nice try (I guess).
Not sure what you're trying to prove but you're failing.
Read the comment we made located just above yours - then compare it to what's happened with Apples stock price. Then continue to tell us how useless the data is.
Obviously you're long AAPL, consider the current price a buying opportunity and move on.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Looks like worst case scenario here. Apple reports 9.32. As indicated in article: "Three quarters back (October 2011) was the first time Apple reported earnings short of the whisper number in five years. Within 20 trading days (from open) of that report the stock dropped 4.2%. Add that to the after-hours drop of 4.9%, and the stock was down a total of 9%. A miss this quarter could translate to similar price movement". AAPL already down about 5.7% in after hours trading.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
The +8.2% is based on the next available open price (intra-day) thru thirty trading days and the close price on day thirty. So the after hours price movement, or the close price on day of report, is not taken into consideration for that stat. It's a true post earnings release price movement analysis that required consistency. So we took the next available open price to keep that consistency for all data we provide. We understand that others will look for close price to close price, or after hours price immediately following earnings release to a specific timeframe, but for our purpose that did not fit into our model for our premium services.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Ahh...no research or investigation before making an ignorant and "wild" accusation. First off, our data does not consist of 'wild guesses'. We can state that with confidence as over the past fifteen years these so-called 'wild guesses' have proven themselves more accurate than any other earnings data source (more accurate in determining the actual reported number and more accurate in determining post earnings price movement). We also have two independent academic (and published) studies supporting the data. I'm sure you would agree that 'wild guesses' wouldn't remain proven and accurate over a fifteen year period. Perhaps its time to think of bobbobwhite's number as an 'expectation'. If you don't think expectations move markets, then perhaps you've been drinking the sell side kool aid for too long. And as for logging into our site and entering a number, go ahead - $14 probably wouldn't skew the data or widen the range (you'd be surprised how many checks and balances you can develop over a fifteen year period).
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
How does the article read like an ad? And how is your link not considered spam/ad?
What is the source of your 'pro-analysis' whisper? And what happens if AAPL beats or missed that 'pro' whisper? Has it moved higher or lower as expected? How many quarters of data is it based on? Or is it just a number with no real value for trading?
Do you think the 'professional' analysts are on your side? Should read this http://bit.ly/NGWZhy, pay attention to myth #3.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
As for the second point, we have heard similar requests primarily from options traders. We haven't taken the step to provide the information yet.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
We saw similar comments last quarter when our data indicated a much higher number than the analysts, but AAPL topped those expectations. So again, no agenda here, not 'trying' anything, just presenting data.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Show Strong Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple Earnings Expectations Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Then you compare our short term (within thirty days of earnings) data to six months - apples and oranges, but nice try (I guess).
Not sure what you're trying to prove but you're failing.
Read the comment we made located just above yours - then compare it to what's happened with Apples stock price. Then continue to tell us how useless the data is.
Obviously you're long AAPL, consider the current price a buying opportunity and move on.
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
Whisper Number Impact: Apple's Whisper Showing Confidence [View article]
What is the source of your 'pro-analysis' whisper? And what happens if AAPL beats or missed that 'pro' whisper? Has it moved higher or lower as expected? How many quarters of data is it based on? Or is it just a number with no real value for trading?
Do you think the 'professional' analysts are on your side? Should read this http://bit.ly/NGWZhy, pay attention to myth #3.