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According to "The Donald," the Fed's pledge to buy $40 billion in mortgage securities each month...

  • Thursday, September 13, 2012, 8:21 PM ET
    According to "The Donald," the Fed's pledge to buy $40 billion in mortgage securities each month is just creating "phony numbers" and will not ultimately benefit the economy. Nor will it will do anything to spur additional activity in the housing market. “Mortgage rates are already very low,” Trump says, “but the banks aren’t lending. So it doesn’t make any difference.”
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  • Doesn't matter. The chairman is pushing up the values of financial assets, so we should just stop worrying and learn to love the chairman.
    13 Sep 2012, 08:29 PM Reply Like
  • "Doesn't matter " What about the poor or the millions living on Social Security or fixed incomes. The second Ben released the data the Euro & Yen popped. The dollar is sinking and commodities are climbing. This is a whopping tax on the entire population on the world as Bed controls the Reserve. Can you say currency manipulator !

    The World Bank has warned and the cost to feed over 2 billion people is rocketing up and countries are in debt !

    The great currency war continues and soon when the BRICs finish setting up exchanges to use all the other currencies the Reserve will be dropped !

    ALL in US will see what they have cut in half ! When.. not if there will be 7 billion folks jumping for joy as Americans leap out of there windows.........

    Love Ben.. Yeah, give him free room and board with Bernie.

    When the dollar devalues he is not pushing up the value of financial assets. Today's S&P and DOW need to be MUCH higher to equal just the 2007 values.

    Seeing those likes tells me that there is something seriously wrong with the values of the WS types.
    14 Sep 2012, 03:58 AM Reply Like
  • How many times has "The Donald" declared bankruptcy and walked away at the expense of his creditors? I love it that he now feels a dumb ass reality show and some fake hair allows him to pontificate on the state of politics or anything else for that matter....
    13 Sep 2012, 08:35 PM Reply Like
  • The Donald is the f...ing man. Stop being a dbag and bow down son.
    13 Sep 2012, 09:53 PM Reply Like
  • He's simply going by what is allowed within bankruptcy law. Why r u bitchin? He didn't screw over creditors like happened with GM lol
    13 Sep 2012, 10:03 PM Reply Like
  • This ("QE3") is about propping up Frannie and agency debt (used as collateral, in repo markets and for other purposes).
    13 Sep 2012, 08:38 PM Reply Like
  • And in many pension funds and money market funds.
    13 Sep 2012, 09:41 PM Reply Like
  • One bubble after another. Do we ever learn that on the other side of every peak is a nasty chasm which takes us lower, and lower each time we go down?

    And how much more can we print?

    And isn't the whole thing just one house of cards?

    With $16 trillion in debt just being the icing on the cake?


    Ya know, we could have taken our medicine back in 2008, marked everything to market, closed down the institutions which were (and still are) bust, and moved on.

    But no, we had a better way. If financial engineering got us in, surely more financial engineering could get us out.

    Today we took another one half trillion dollar swipe at it.

    And have we accomplished anything at all other than kicking the can down the road?

    If so, could someone please list the examples.

    I'm tired of this shit. How many generations have to put up with this crap before the people have had enough? (And please, spare me the political rhetoric--they are ALL criminals).

    TB
    13 Sep 2012, 08:40 PM Reply Like
  • It's sad that even the Donald gets it.
    13 Sep 2012, 09:00 PM Reply Like
  • If the Donald gets it, then it's just not to hard to figure out.
    13 Sep 2012, 10:02 PM Reply Like
  • Is it a bad idea? Yes. If you are an investor, good for you now but the time will come when the 'house of cards' WILL fall. However, for the time being... be a trader and make some money!
    13 Sep 2012, 09:52 PM Reply Like
  • Does anybody recall a 10 year stretch during the last century where there was no serious economical danger ahead or where we didn't have to give all in order to get out of a serious economical crisis?
    13 Sep 2012, 09:53 PM Reply Like
  • Ted Bear - consider this example. I cannot refinance my home under FHA refinance streamlining, solely because of my closing date. If you think a "Chasm" will come, it surely looks like a chasm that people are throwing interest payments into, just because they can't break the glass ceiling into a better mortgage. The FED is right for what they are doing. There is no waste like consumers blowing money paying too much interest. What does that add to GDP? Nothing.Crappy financing has been the bane of the middle class throughout time. Force a person not to invest in productive assets because of rates, and they won't.
    13 Sep 2012, 09:55 PM Reply Like
  • "... the banks aren't lending"

    Christ, we read this over and over. Yes, I get it: we all hate banks and bankers. Count me in on that for sure. But stuff like this just makes all of us taking that position look bad. It takes two to tango. People with solid earning power and healthy balance sheets have no desire to buy houses, and unsecured loans are still too expensive (and too small) to be worthwhile for all but the fabulously wealthy. The reality is that houses are still ridiculously overpriced relative to rents, priced in gold, or by any other useful metric, and our wages aren't sufficient to cover the enormous *principal* payments that would be required. And, again, that's those of us with reliable income, in-demand skills, and rock-solid balance sheets. If we're not going to borrow on these terms, who would?

    I would gladly issue senior unsecured 20-year dollar notes at 4%. I am absolutely confident that I could earn far more than that in equities over that time period. My returns would consist primarily of being short the dollar and secondarily from dividends. Piece of cake. Unfortunately, the only way to access long-term credit is if it's secured by an asset that's not going to generate income, or in the case of investment real estate, not going to generate enough income. It wouldn't matter if mortgage rates were zero; I still wouldn't take out a mortgage. Why not borrow on margin instead? Because that's secured debt, and the market's insanity can force me out of my positions. Unacceptable.

    If the Fed is serious about encouraging borrowing, it needs to get over the fallacy that banks won't lend. Banks are happy to lend against residential property at absurdly low rates. But it will take very different channels to entice anyone to borrow. As long as the only way to borrow at negative real rates is to buy a house at silly inflated prices or become the HFTs' chew toy, forget it. Give me the same terms companies like Microsoft are getting and I'll back up the truck. Until then, the reason no one's lending is that no one's stupid enough to borrow.
    13 Sep 2012, 09:59 PM Reply Like
  • This qe has a bad feel to it. Somehow someday we will pay for it. Artificially messing with the market creats distortions.
    13 Sep 2012, 10:17 PM Reply Like
  • The fed and leaders just will not admit we have to much F$#@en debt.
    We went on a massive binge spend for several decades and now we are tapped out. It will take a decade or more to unwind. These solutions just makes it worse.

    356% total credit market debts to gdp is hitting a ceiling.
    13 Sep 2012, 10:19 PM Reply Like
  • Wall St. sells 2004-2007 MBS as safe. AAA safe from Moody's, SP, etc lol. This MBS is anything but safe. Fed buys MBS from investors (bond funds) and now Moodys, SP downgrade USA for taking on our books this junk blessed as AAA when the St. sold it. You all are kidding yourselves. Put backs and holding to maturity will be quite interesting going forward. The best part of this are these ratings agencies vigilance 5 yrs too late. MS est. the impaired non subprime loans could number 8mm folks or 14% of all paper. AAA indeed.
    13 Sep 2012, 10:40 PM Reply Like
  • The "Donald" is the ultimate deadbeat and OPM addict.
    13 Sep 2012, 11:31 PM Reply Like
  • So if they dropped QE3 today, what are they going to do when we go off the fiscal cliff?
    13 Sep 2012, 11:47 PM Reply Like
  • the stock market is a house of cards and the currency market is a game of musical chairs...where you going to hide? Try to go short when the market starts to crash? The world is upside down...
    14 Sep 2012, 02:06 AM Reply Like
  • EV2BFREE...i would ask just the opposite......as long as we spend all of our bullets now, what are we going to use when we drop off the fiscal cliff?

    It feels great now....car speeding along at a tremendous rate, face pressed to the windshield....damn we're having fun.

    Except nobody paid heed to the sign which says "cliff ahead", apply brakes at this point, or you will be unable to stop in time.

    That we are going over....whether it be this year, or this decade, and whether it looks like we think it will look or not, is no longer a question. You simply cannot spend 'good will' into perpetuity.

    We're all in now. Sit back and watch. The party is awesome. The hangover will be something to behold.
    14 Sep 2012, 07:06 AM Reply Like
  • This qe smells like a reckless move. Treasury bond crash would be a leading indicator.
    Dollar crashes, gold explodes.
    14 Sep 2012, 07:59 AM Reply Like
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