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Wednesday, September 19, 2012, 9:20 AM ETApple (AAPL) will ask Judge Koh to impose treble damages (over $3B) on Samsung (SSNLF.PK) in response to last month's huge jury win, "legal sources" (Samsung lawyers?) tell the Korea Times. A hearing regarding Apple's request could took place on Friday - Judge Koh has proven willing to grant many of Apple's requests before, during, and after the trial.
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How can people support a bully like them? Evil is the nicest word for apple I can come up with.
Why aren't you mad at Samsung for not taking the licensing offer given them a long time ago? It would have saved Samsung, its customers and shareholders money.To the whole world it is apparent that Samsung stold Apple's IP. You're mad about the apple win because you are of a subset of people that want IP theft to be legal.
Hangers on who leach off others will always throw epithets at others. Buy some apple stock and you'll feel better in a couple months.
Apple is the most sued high tech company partially due to "deep pockets" so why should Apple not be able to protect its intellectual property.
I do think the whole patent system needs to be reformed. Patent trolls should not be able to buy patents they did not develop and then sue companies based on that. Google even gave patents to HTC to sue Apple. Hardly fair! Companies should also be required to market a product incorporating their patents within a certain period of time or lose the patent. Just some ideas that should be considered.
Theft is theft!
And as for your unfounded accusation of bribery, that's slander and you could find yourself in court and LOSE like Samsung.
Dullard is the nicest word I can up with for you.
Don't know what to say about this case being in Cali. Anyone really believe they were going to lose with a Cali jury?
German court backs Apple in patent fight with Motorola
FRANKFURT, Sept 13 | Thu Sep 13, 2012 12:59pm EDT
(Reuters) - A court in Munich ruled on Thursday that Motorola Mobility, owned by Google Inc, had infringed an Apple Inc patent and ordered that all tablets and smartphones containing the technology be recalled.
Judge Peter Guntz said Motorola had infringed Apple's "overscroll bounce" technology, which enables users to move documents over the screen of their device and let them bounce back to the centre after releasing their fingers.
A spokeswoman for the court said the ruling was not likely to have an immediate impact as Apple would have to specifically request a ban on the product and Motorola could also appeal against the ruling.
Apple and Google did not immediately reply to requests for a comment on the ruling.
Google bought lossmaking Motorola Mobility for $12.5 billion last year, in its largest acquisition ever, aiming to use the company's patents to fend off legal attacks on its Android mobile platform and expand beyond its software business.
Other technology companies have also invested billions of dollars in buying up patent portfolios that they can use against rivals and have also ploughed money into litigation in the United States and Europe.
Last month Apple scored a landmark legal victory over Samsung Electronics Co Ltd when a U.S. jury found the Korean company had copied critical features of the iPhone and iPad and awarded Apple $1.05 billion in damages.
Germany has become a major battleground in the global patent war between makers of mobile phones, tablet computer devices and their operating software, as court actions there have proved to be relatively cheap and speedier than in other jurisdictions.
(Reuters) - A German court ruled against Samsung Electronics Co in a patent suit versus Apple, another leg in a long legal battle as the two technology giants jostle for top spot in the booming smartphone and tablet markets.
Samsung, which passed Apple in the third quarter as the world's top maker of smartphones, is locked in a bruising patent tussle with the U.S. firm in some 10 countries from the United States to Australia, France and Japan.
"This ruling related to only one of 13 patents that are currently in suit between those parties in Germany, and of dozens of patents on a worldwide basis," said independent patent expert Florian Mueller.
"It's not the first rejection of a complaint involving these two players, and barring a major surprise, it won't be the last." .....
Apple gets kicked in the teeth by German patent lawsuit decisions
http://zd.net/P16J5W
Motorola wins Apple wireless patent fight in Germany
http://bbc.in/S8ocyb
http://zd.net/Prx9Pu
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Update: Apple temporarily pulled all of its iPhone smartphones from the German market, with the exception of the latest iPhone 4S, which is still on sale. 3G-enabled iPads were also pulled from the store.
But Apple has won a temporary suspension of the enforcement of the injunction, meaning Apple can continue to sell the patent infringing devices in its online store until a later date.
The ruling comes from a December hearing in which Motorola won an injunction against Apple, on the grounds that its 3G-technology infringes on Motorola's European-held patents.
An Apple spokesperson said: "While iPad and iPhone models are currently unavailable in our [German] online store, our customers will still be able to find these devices in stores or at authorised retailers."
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Getting an injunction against enforcement of the ban is hardly indicating that the injunction is a lock.
Yes, there is a mix of wins/losses around the globe between AAPL, Samsung, HTC and Motorola. Some are consistent, some aren't. In Korea, Samsung and Apple took a draw and each were fined some ridiculously low amount of penalties that probably were under the amount of money the attorneys spent in airfare and hotels.
So where are we in Germany, Apple is selling it's products at authorized retailers and Motorola has been ordered to recall all it's offending products and presumably can't sell them.
Who is ahead so far in Germany? Motorola or Apple?
http://bit.ly/RUz6WI
Apple sued Google-owned Motorola Mobility for infringing on its "list scrolling and document translation, scaling, and rotation on a touchscreen display" patent, said Stefanie Ruhwinkel, spokeswoman for the Munich court. The patent is also known as the "overscroll bounce" or "rubber band" patent and allows pages, documents or photos on touchscreen devices to scroll past their boundaries and bounce back when users release their fingers from the screen.
Your opinion on the validity of the bounce patent carries zero legal weight. It's been upheld in multiple courts. Live with it.
You can call any patent you want silly or stupid or ridiculous. When you start issuing patents let us all know.
Before the patent fight over push e-mail I would have thought that AOL had patented it. Those famous commercials "You have mail." - ding
Maybe you think the "one click to buy" was an awesome innovation that Amazon patented.
Now we know it was a Motorola patent.
I don't wait in lines. After I returned that Galaxy S3 POS that I got for my wife I put in an order for an iPhone 5. 2-3 weeks, big deal. But having an iPhone 5 over an S3 will save me many hours of time.
I actually thought that S3 would be acceptable. And other than the cheap plastic feel to it, which you could conceal with a case, the hardware is pretty good. Android is the problem. Even the Android play store sucks.
I have no problem at all whether people get a S3 or a Nokia or an HTC phone.
I really don't care whether I have expandable memory. I can use Apple's maps or Google maps on iOS 6.
In an ideal world I might have preferred that Google would have permitted turn by turn on iOS devices, but they wouldn't.
http://cnet.co/UoxPoN
Apple started this... and its going to go on for awhile I think
http://bit.ly/QUEQNI
How come you never answered that rather straightforward question of which of the 26 versions of 4G LTE were you talking about?
The important point to take away is that your predictions are worthless and your knowledge of 4G LTE is less than worthless.
Since you think all this minutiae is best left to patent attorneys [and the courts] why don't you keep your fingers off the keyboard.
Me thinks the later ;)
I will feel so sorry for you jblau if mean ol'judge Koh keeps you from buying your knock-off smart phone. Maybe you should head down to the flea market for some knock off purses or knock off Nikes to make yourself feel better.
Not sure about her case history since then, but you have a Korean American judge appointed by a rather softserve socialist president and the case in the Apple homecourt of Cali. Don't tell me the picking of a Korean American judge over a Korean company wasn't a PR element. But otherwise this looks an awful lot like a stage production and she is a piece of seemingly real furniture on the stage, but it is still a stage whether she knows it or not. She won the casting call, and I wonder if she knows she was even in the casting call. Probably she does and is on some level gaming it career-wise with this in mind. Harvard Muppets eventually become Muppeters...
My, "soul as a collectivist redistribitionist who thinks they deserve to receive everything for nothing"? Good that you can fertilizer your garden from your own brain bucket. I shouldn't write that, but you are rather stunningly ignorant.
Look at the court room graphics which clearly showed that until the iPhone came out Samsung phones had many different looks. After the iPhone came out, all of Samsung's phones looked like the iPhone. As long as patents can be issued for design features, don't criticize Apple for protecting its patents. I don't hear you telling other companies to not sue Apple.
Google even told Samsung to redesign its phones because they looked like the iPhone and Samsung ignored them. They brought this on themselves.
Did I criticize Apple for protecting its patents? I did not. I had not followed the case, having no financial interest in it. Reading now for the sake of curiosity, I do appreciate the orchestration.
As if I didn't think a Chaebol was underhanded...
The answer is probably something akin to MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction) if Apple tried to go after Google/MMI Instead, Samsung becomes the scapegoat, even though they are the ones who manufacture the screens and chips that supply the IPhone and IPad.
Are you people going to claim the German courts were bribed also?
Apple has a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders to defend their IP.
As far as suing Google , Apple could not sue Google until recently because they were giving away Android for free; hence not profiting from Apple's IP.
http://zd.net/P16J5W
http://bbc.in/S8ocyb
iCloud IPad and any IPhone before 4S was banned in Germany earlier this year because Apple violated Motorola patents
"Samsung is no worse than HTC or Motorola. You have to wonder though why Apple hasn't gone after Google and Android if they feel that way"
Apple has not sued HTC, motorola & Google yet. It does not mean it will NOT. It is also easier to take one by off.
Oh no, they didn't copy the iPad, they just couldn't tell the difference between the two.
Samsung's own documentation indicated they were intentionally copying Apple.
It's just that Apple won the suit. So naturally when Apple makes requests related to the judgement, and are within their legal rights, there is no reason for the judge NOT to grant those requests.
Maybe there is something to be said for sitting through the entire trial and then making a decision. What exactly have you reviewed of the entire trial?
http://bit.ly/TwzNlR