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European shares are in full melt-up mode, the Stoxx 50 (FEZ) at its high of the day, +4.2%....

  • Friday, August 12, 2011, 9:19 AM ET
    European shares are in full melt-up mode, the Stoxx 50 (FEZ) at its high of the day, +4.2%. Italy (EWI) is the biggest gainer, +5.2%. The short-selling ban looks to have won the day, for the moment. European indices are about 10% higher since the idea was floated about 24 hours ago.
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  • Great! It should tell all those who purport short-selling is so good for the market. IF they are interested in The Big Picture, that is.
    12 Aug 2011, 09:33 AM Reply Like
  • The big picture is that you have taken your upswing now... the shorts won't be there to stop a fall if (when?) that occurs...

    think it through for a moment... shorts covering now, stock up... when the longs think it's time to sell, stock goes down... who will buy?
    12 Aug 2011, 09:55 AM Reply Like
  • Could not have said it better myself bear
    12 Aug 2011, 10:28 AM Reply Like
  • The idea that shorts ruin the market is an ignorant one... they serve their purpose in capitalism. This is an idiotic move by frantic, weak governments.
    12 Aug 2011, 11:54 AM Reply Like
  • Clayton....same idoiocy was exhibited in the US. In fact, I don't know if the no short sale is still in effect on certain stocks...could be, but I don't know. Amazing what the banksters will do to protect themselves....except for recapitalize and moderate leverage.
    12 Aug 2011, 12:05 PM Reply Like
  • "The idea that shorts ruin the market is an ignorant one... they serve their purpose in capitalism. This is an idiotic move by frantic, weak governments."

    Couldn't have said it better myself.
    12 Aug 2011, 12:22 PM Reply Like
  • It is not about short selling ban. We have completed 5 waves down which indicates the trend is down and we are having the very much expected textbook countrend rally:

    www.tradingstocks.net/...

    It is going to crash again. Short selling ban will not stop it. In fact, without having shorts who would be covering at the end of declines, new declines will go down like a rock without having anyone who has to cover. Rallies will not have the fuel of shorts who will panic and cover. Welcome to the stock market of relentless declines. Coming to a European market near you soon. We may overshoot bottoms to the downside without shorts.
    12 Aug 2011, 12:46 PM Reply Like
  • Short selling is an effective price discovery tool in an efficient market. However, the markets of the last 10 days have been anything but efficient, with fears running wild. When an article from a website called Zerohedge.com can take down the entire global stock markets, you are not dealing with smart, rational investors, you are dealing with panicked masses.

    It is true that banning short selling does not work in markets in which there are real problems. In these markets, long investors bail out because the issues are real and its not just speculators pushing prices down. However, just the mere rumor of a short-sale ban in Europe caused prices to skyrocket, meaning the amount of short speculators in the market was huge. In fact, volume yesterday was almost as big as the day before it, indicating that all those who shorted on Wednesday probably covered on Thursday, with the remainder covering today. Now that short-selling is off the table, if Soc Gen and BNP start falling again, we will know there are real problems out there, and that will be the real signal to be scared. In essence, the short-sale ban has given has an invaluable tool, which is to know exactly who is doing the selling. It appears from recent market actions that it was in fact short sellers doing all the selling. Because this type of crisis of confidence can actually trigger a real crisis in the banking industry, it is important to limit downside speculation by scared traders.

    The argument that no-short didn't work here does not hold water when compared to Europe. Our government enacted a no-short financial rule AFTER the collapse of Lehman Brothers, when it was far too late to reverse the damage. If there had been a no-short financial rule before Lehman went under, we would have a much better idea of how these things work. But in any case, the problems with Lehman's hidden liabilities and worthless commercial mortgage assets would have caused it to collapse eventually regardless. In case of French banks, they do not have the same capital shortfall that our banks did in 2008. Furthermore, the roadmap to backstopping these banks is very clear to the ECB, and they would have a ton of options in case of a last-resort event. Either way, 2011 is not 2008, and we will not have a repeat of the financial crisis less than 3 years later.
    12 Aug 2011, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • If we do not have a repeat of the 2008 financial crisis it will be because of CB printing to back stop liquidity and provide insolvent banks with a "deflector shield".

    The result of that will be increased inflation and further dollar debasement.

    I have no problem with short selling - unless you are talking about naked short selling. A naked short is tantamount to printing money. It is in effect expanding the supply our outstanding shares. Issuing shares is governed by SEC rules and require disclosures, etc. Naked short is the "illegal" issuance of additional shares of the company's stock and is dilutive and can do nothing else but lower the price because of the extra supply.
    12 Aug 2011, 01:27 PM Reply Like
  • Probably the ban won't have a long-term effect, but shorts do not stabilize the market.

    They tend to amplify swings in price, dog-piling on to declining stocks, and then covering during panicked short-squeezes.

    An efficient market does not need short sellers.
    12 Aug 2011, 01:36 PM Reply Like
  • I take out complex option positions, in order to limit risk, they have both short and long legs. Short selling is a vital component to limiting risk.
    12 Aug 2011, 05:18 PM Reply Like
  • US Consumer Sentiment RECORD LOW Since 1980! If European Financials go down, so does US Economy. So far the Germans and French have done nothing and are only making it much worse on the way down without short selling!
    12 Aug 2011, 03:14 PM Reply Like
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