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Wednesday, March 13, 7:07 PM ETIn a rare move for an Apple (AAPL) exec, marketing chief Phil Schiller is trashing Android (GOOG) ahead of tomorrow's Samsung Galaxy S IV event. Schiller takes aim at Android's fragmentation, noting only 16% of users (per Google's data) are on Android 4.1 (Jelly Bean), and claims (citing Apple's internal data) 4x as many smartphone users switched from Android to the iPhone in Q4 than vice versa. Is Schiller just being candid, or does Apple now think Android's rise demands a more aggressive marketing stance?
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Apparently, talk is cheap.
Have you thought of the fact that if AAPL had those made up facts you pointed out, it would be worth a trillion?
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I came over this data yesterday, where Samsung Electronics is #1 or #2 on a number of fronts.
Typically that would be from a "reliable" major news source.
Android market share falls 13 percent amid Apple increase
Feb 1, 2013
http://bit.ly/ZMrOIm
Hey, it's probably worth a quadrillion... quintillion? Limitless, like Apple's believers.
More data from Wikipedia: http://bit.ly/ZMrWaV
You are an ill-informed troll. First you link to an IDC article from q3 2012 which hardly has any iphone 5 sales in in. Most of the sales that IDC is counting are phones that are not even used as smart phones. In the last quarter of 2012 AAPL sold 48 million iphones to 15 million galaxy SIII's.
Here are some "facts" for you:
AAPL makes 72% of ALL global smart phone profits.
AAPL makes 91% of ALL global tablet profits.
70% of ALL mobile search is done on an AAPL device.
88% of ALL mobile ecommerce is done on an ipad ALONE.
iphone is 300% more reliable than the best Samsung phone per a
recent survey of 1 million people.
Malware is out of control on Android ballooning at a parabolic rate from 5,000 to over 55,000 in just the last 3 months of 2012. It's all over apps on Google Play.
Google gives out Android customers personal information and location to every app developer on Google Play, and, they don't deny it.
Stew on that a little, sport.
It is no doubt that Apple makes the profits.
I'm currently searching for the article of Samsung Electronics being #1 or #2 on a half dozen fronts.
Just Google.ca is slow in Cn.
Sam
no wonder bing sucks, b/c of the google slowdown for the past 14 hours I threw in Samsung+"white+goods" into Bing's news search engine and nothing came up. That is zero, nada ...
In all seriousness, there is no Android play. Thats the problem. The "ecosystem" is too fragmented. Samsung makes low margin phones. GOOG makes the OS. Samsung and GOOG and others are now competing with their own app stores.
So, yes, if Android was one company this data may matter. But, you are really talking about 10 companies with a market value near a trillion dollars (depending on how many Android suppliers you include) that make up Android. And, when you think about that, Apple with all its cohesion, looks cheap by comparison.
yea maybe, but lets compare how much money apple makes compared to samsung for their mobile/ipad sales.
thats what really matters
Why wouldn't you use the most current data?
Samsung sells lots of smartphones, a good number of them at the low end.
From 1 Feb 2013.
The 5 best-selling phones in the U.S. are from just 2 companies: Apple and Samsung
#1: iPhone 5
#2: Galaxy SIII
#3 iPhone 4S
#4 iPhone 4
#5 Galaxy SII
http://bit.ly/WcITvg
Though I recall seeing a separate article which ranked the iPhone 4S at number 2 above the SIII.
Of course, Samsung won't actually tell anyone what their unit sales are.
my iphone 5 is a sleek, thin light, fast, powerful and beautiful device that works flawlessly every time. aples ecosystem is first rate. Samsung is really lower quality when compared to apple. I just replaced 4 of our trading screens with Samsung monitors. they are going back next week. they look and feel like junk and they perform that way to. I replaced them with Mass Multiples and what a difference.
Nothing has changed at apple, other than the hedge fund have bailed out, started a negative media campaign and went long google. the only device that has the power, capability, speed and build quality to compete with apple is the Microsoft Surface Pro. I simply do not use mymipad as much since the Surface came into my life
The latest numbers from ComScore show Apple strengthening its lead as the top US handset maker, with the iPhone nabbing an estimated 37.8 percent of the market as of January 2013. That's a 3.5-point boost from October of last year, putting healthy distance between Cupertino and the number-two smartphone maker, Samsung.
http://bit.ly/Wi6uWO
In addition, the latest ComScore figure released yesterday put Apple ahead of Samsung as the top U S handset maker by a 37 to 21% margin.
http://bit.ly/13TYTW0
Complete BS post. Quick drinking the kool aid bro. Another emotional Apple nut job. Good Lord...they are everywhere.
I am an investor, not a promoter of either Apple or Samsung. Apparently, the market seems to detect serious problems with Apple's management and performance that is overlooked by acolytes. My objective is to make money, not wave pom-poms for anybody.
Is that even better than giving 110%?
But obviously tops is not as material as who makes all the money.
Apple by far over Google and Samsung combined.
Get back on the meds quickly! Your fear of Samsung beating Apple is is turning you into borderline psychotic.
I can't work out whether you actually have owned a Galaxy SIII. It's obvious that you don't like it ("Several of my traders have the Samsung galaxy III. They have dropped them many times which have caused cracked plastic in the back and broken screens."), yet later you claim to have tried one long enough for it to crash several times (" It lagged, froze and crashed several times") .
And then, in one of the most laughable/childish comments I have ever seen on SA, you rant on about how only "the (Samsung) crowd was below blue collar and extremely lower class. Loud, rude, uneducated and obnoxious.", compared to the "Very well dressed women talking on their iphones. Well dressed men exiting their Bentleys and Range Rovers conversing on their iphones".
I'm just trying to figure how long it is before you take an automatic weapon to a group of Samsung phone owners.
In the words of Sydney Pollack in Tootsie "Michael, I begged you to get therapy"!
They have 140 billion dollar bills (and growing rapidly) on which to dry their tears.
You should be so unfortunate.
The stupidity of Apple-bashing cannot last much longer, as it has advanced to sub-human intelligence levels.
I say that's bullish.
According to Raymond James analyst Tavis McCourt, who compiled the cumulative sales of the iPhone 4, 4S, and 5 and stacked them against the Galaxy S and Galaxy Note smartphones. In total, Apple outsold Samsung 219 million to 131 million.
http://cnet.co/Wwuifk
Something that waved 'bye-bye' to Android and Microsoft years ago.
Author: Dan Reyes
Published: February 20, 2013 at 8:13 am
Apple's iPhone 5 was the best-selling smartphone in the world, according to a new report from the company Strategy Analytics.
The report claim that Apple's iPhone 5 overtook Samsung's Galaxy S3 to become the world's best-selling smartphone model for the first time ever in the fourth quarter of 2012. Apple's iPhone 5 smartphone model shipped an estimated 27.4 million units worldwide during the fourth quarter of 2012.
The same report went on further to say that the iPhone 5 captured an impressive 13 percent share of all smartphones shipped globally and it has become the world's best-selling model for the first time ever. A rich touchscreen design, extensive distribution across dozens of countries, and generous operator subsidies have been among the main causes of the iPhone 5's success.
Meanwhile, according to that report the top three top-selling smartphones in the world in terms of shipments for Q4 2012 are the Apple iPhone 5 with 27.4 millions, the Apple 4S with 17.4 millions, and the Samsung Galaxy S3 with 15.4 millions.
Additionally, the global smartphone marketshare by model in Q4 2012 are the Apple iPhone 5 with 12.6 percent, the Apple iPhone 4S with 8.0 percent, and the Samsung Galaxy S3 with 7.1 percent.
Other smartphone brands and models are trailing the above handsets in the Strategy Analytics' report for Q4 2012 with a combined total global shipments of 156.8 millions and 72.3 percent global marketshare.
l "Apple iphone 300% More Reliable than Samsung"
http://bit.ly/Wi6uWO
Jack, that was the best point made on the whole page.
Salute.
Cash is nice but it means nothing to the company if it isn't allocating it properly... it means even less to common investors
I'm sure the other Apple executives are pleased with this statement.
You seem objective. I don't understand all of these people acting like Apple is their kid or their favorite sports team.
http://nyti.ms/13WSud7
Make sure to read the comments below the article. They appear to be largely from SIII users. One to illustrate ...
"If this works as well as the feature on the GSIII which is supposed to keep the screen from turning off from inactivity when you're viewing it, it won't work at all. Perhaps it's my glasses, but it hasn't worked a single time for me no matter the angle I look at the phone or environment (lighting) I'm in. ..."
You wanted it to work? What Samsung wanted was a "feature" to sell the phone. That, they accomplished.
The plethora of new cheap tablets from other vendors is decreasing Apple`s market share. This is well know, various articles have been published to show this using empirical data in terms of tablet growth.
It seems that Apple did not only get the big only tablet idea wrong, and then later back tracked but also the latest iphone with its smaller screen.
I wish they had done something when the share price was falling from $700 to $600 to $500 to.... The fact is they did nothing and said nothing.
http://bit.ly/Ydgxx5
...and Apple wonders why the world hates them after such a positive reinforcement of stereotypes???
how would you know comedian Justin Long was portrayed as bilingual
Just let that sink in for a second.
Exactly. These myopic Androidians are too funny.
Even this current criticism of fragmentation. That doesn't target any specific company, not even Google. It's an Android industry problem. Samsung or HTC or any of the other manufacturers could making their mobile phones so they can be upgraded to the latest mobile OS, they choose not to. Noted exception Nexus.
If Apple made an ad that mocked eye tracking S/W in the Galaxy as not working for people who wear glasses that would be a company targetted ad, whether it mentioned Samsung by name or not.
http://bit.ly/ZKx1wT
Funny that the PC looks similar to Bill Gates.
PC looking similar to Bill Gates is a stretch. I never noticed it and looking for it after you mention it, I have to force it.
Schiller made his comments the day before the Galaxy was released. Is there anything in those comments that are specific to Samsung?
Vista deserved to be criticize.
You had to go back 5 years to come up with the Vista ad. Name one Apple product ad in the last year that has targetted a specific company.
Look at the theme of this topic. Apple is the one that's being pointed at for commenting on the state of the Android industry. Apple would well be in there rights to toss some stones specifically at Samsung for all the Galaxy SIII that turns into bricks after 6 months; Samsung replaces the board [with the same revision] but never acknowledges the problem.
I am just saying it is ok for one company to poke fun at another and vise-versa.
Well, I'm going to tell you all that it just ain't so!
When you have the leading position in a valuable market, you are a TARGET, and people learn how to hit you by taking target practice.
Every hit reduces your profit and makes you easier to hit in the future - until you are at parity or worse.
DEC failed in the computer business even though they were number 1 in a very profitable sector and their management had been lauded in the trades and on Wall Street.
IBM left the PC market because it was no longer profitable for them because the competition was fierce.
What about Dell?
What about HP?
Do you need more examples of companies that fell from a leading position in a profitable market because of intense competition?
APPL should shut down all research and development.
If they put out new products, they will simply make more money, Wall Street Chattering Class will hate them more, and the share price will go down.
Learn to get with the trend - lose money. Look what happened to Mitt Romney.
Samsung is is price driven ......... Apple is value driven.
"Is Schiller just being candid, or does Apple now think Android's rise demands a more aggressive marketing stance?"
....both
Samsung and Android is cheap stuff for the masses. Yes, thats a way to gain traction and win "market share" (whatever that may be...). Its not a way to make profits, which is what I care about as investor.
I also don't figure Samsung's business model: They dump cheap devices that make them no money for someone else to put their operating system on.
Go figure...
That is what Matsushita did in the 80s to get market share (patent payments!) and therefore the VCR defeated the technologically superior Sony Betamax ...
Stop this childish emotional game.
Focus on functionality, not form & let the people decide for themselves.
My analysis. Android is the new Windows (90%) for the next generation. Apple had its time during this transition that it triggered.
However, as Sony's memory stick, it cannot compete against many.
Samsung is learning very fast.
Apple can trick people many times - but not all the time.
Asia/China is the next trend setter.
Forget about quality, smartphones get recycled in <2yrs (for some 1yr).
Best device so far: Galaxy Note 2 (no competitor).
Enjoy the freedom of competition.
IBM has set the standard long in the 70's that most companies follows. Very few companies sue others for patent issues. They either do nothing or just negotiate for a settlement. There were many many hi tech companies that has lots and lots of patents and very very seldom do you see them go to court.
A good example is the biggest market ever for the last 31 years the IBM PC industry. In the beginning hundreds if not thousands of companies copy IBM's product. People even take IBM's custom chip and cut the layers. They took pictures and then have the schematics make. Never heard of IBM sue anyone or even say anything negative about anyone. The reason why the PC industry was so great for so long was because of IBM's leadership. The IBM pc market would not have grown that fast and that big if it is not for all those thousands of companies that work on the same platform. IBM themself also make a lot more money due to the size of the market created by all the features and functions created by all those thousands of companies.
Today Apple go even further in this lower than low in their negative marketing. You should market your features and functions and not just bad mouth others like a politician.
In the long run Apple is going to lose big time. Now everyone is going to attack Apple in any way they can.
Samsong is going to win one patent against apple in the communication algorithm and now the US goverment may have to bail out Apple for not baring them from even selling their iPhone. Why do we need all this nonsense. At the end I am sure everyone will have to go back to what it was before Apple get into the phone business. Everyone has patents they have all just negotiate among themself and never created any public law suit nonsense.
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HTC president calls Samsung’s Galaxy S4 event embarrassing
Saturday, March 16, 2013 · 9:52 am · 48 Comments
“As anyone who was on hand at last year’s Galaxy S III unveiling expected, Samsung’s Galaxy S 4 press conference at Radio City Music Hall on Thursday evening was quite the spectacle,” Zach Epstein reports for BGR.
“HTC president Jason MacKenzie was watching the show Thursday night, and he had some choice comments when asked how he felt about the unveiling of his chief rival’s new flagship smartphone,” Epstein reports. “‘I went from laughing to actually feeling embarrassed at some of the acting,’ MacKenzie said in an interview with CNET. ‘Watching the presentation, it looks like they invested a lot in marketing instead of innovation.’”
http://bit.ly/15U3V3h