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  • SAIC Versus SEC Filings 4 comments
    Dec 19, 2011 7:55 PM | about stocks: LIWA, ABAT, GURE, VIEW, HRBN, ONP, FMCN, YONG, APWR, HOGS

    If there were a Letterman Top Ten List for short claims of fraud against Chinese companies, the number one would have to be that the SAIC filings (State Administration of Industry and Commerce) do not match the companies SEC filings. Your average investor, institutions included, see discrepancies between the two filings and instantly flee from the company convinced that it must be a fraud or something is fishy in Fuzhou. While differences between the SAIC and the SEC filings might be a flag to signaling further investigation, as the article below discusses it is FAR from being a smoking gun:

    Re-Printed From Trading China Website
    The comparison of Chinese filings and U.S. SEC filings from U.S.-listed Chinese companies has become a hotly discussed topic over the past several weeks. A large number of articles, most notably from authors with short positions in the stocks discussed, focus on severe discrepancies between SAIC reported numbers and SEC filings, and conclude there must be fraud involved. Such an automatic conclusion is just plain wrong as there are many legitimate reasons for those numbers not to match.

    With this article I am going to clarify some of the major aspects in this rather complicated system of multiple filings for one and the same U.S.-listed company. The article is based on a July 12 report from Roth Capital Partners (many thanks for supplying it for this purpose), several other reliable sources, and my own research.

    Every U.S. listed Chinese company with actual business operations in China has to file financial statements with three agencies (there are more but those don’t matter here): The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), China’s State Administration of Industry and Commerce (NYSE:SAIC), and the Chinese State Administration of Taxation (SAT). Let’s have a more detailed look at those Chinese agencies:

    China’s State Administration of Industry and Commerce (SAIC)
    The SAIC (www.saic.gov.cn) is primarily responsible for business registration, business licenses and acts as the government supervisor of corporations. The SAIC is the Chinese government registrar for official documents like articles of incorporation, legal persons, registered capital and company ownership. In order to renew their annual business licenses, all Chinese companies must file a so-called ‘Company Annual Inspection Report’ with the SAIC between March and June every year. This report includes financial statements such as balance sheet and income statement, but those numbers are not verified or audited by the SAIC. The agency is primarily concerned with legal compliance issues and not with operating data or taxes.

    State Administration of Taxation (SAT)
    Chinese companies pay a variety of taxes as VAT, Enterprise Income Tax (EIT), business tax and payroll taxes. The tax filings made with the SAT (www.chinatax.gov.cn) are much more similar to SEC filings than what has to be submitted to the SAIC for business licenses. The SAT requires audited financial data including balance sheet, income statement and cash flow statement and the tax bureaus audit those reports quite frequently themselves and fine offenders who under-report to the SAT. Tax collectors in China are not any less serious than those in Europe or the United States. Financial statements to the SAT are much more reliable than SAIC filings, however those are not publicly accessible and unavailable to investors or research analysts.

    Reasons for non-matching SAIC/SEC Numbers
    There are several legitimate reasons for SAIC reported financial statements not to match those numbers filed with the SEC. First of all, the SAIC is the business registrar and not the Chinese equivalent of the SEC. The SAIC does neither review nor audit financial statements submitted with the annual inspection report. Most companies see the sole purpose of an SAIC filing in getting their business license renewed, and some even hire a third party to do the filing for them. China Marine Food (OTCPK:CMFO) CFO Marco Ku explained that in a recent interview with Zack Buckley:

    It is tedious to file with the government. They need to supply documents, ask for specific things, and it is very difficult. Most companies try to use an agent firm to file these with the government. I didn’t do it myself when I ran my personal business based in Beijing some years ago because it is too tedious to do all the filing. If you pay an agent it can be done without headache in a few days. CMFO used an agent, paid a fee and got the business license done. In the process, the agent doesn’t care whether you earn how much or whether you lose money. They just care whether your company is in operation. The agent firm doesn’t ask us for audited reports. We pay the fee and get the license back. When I realized that the public can somehow access SAIC documents, we immediately asked my team to do the filing on their own instead of agent firm.

    Another reason is the difference in accounting principles. Chinese documents are audited under PRC GAAP, while SEC filings are based on U.S. GAAP standards for financial reporting. There are many differences between those standard, starting with how revenue is recognized. I can’t get into detail here but the bottom line is that certain key numbers don’t have to be the same in order to still both be correct.

    Roth Capital points out several other possible reasons for divergent filings:

    Business Consolidation: In China every legal entity has to file its own annual inspection report with the SAIC. This includes every individual division or subsidiary of the U.S.-listed company and a separate report from the parent company. Sometimes the parent report is consolidated while other times it is not. According to Roth, inter-company transactions might be treated differently than in the U.S.: “For U.S. GAAP purposes, inter-company transactions are treated carefully to avoid double counting. However, for PRC tax purposes, PRC tax professionals may seek to use inter-company transactions in ways to minimize tax. This includes using different consolidation approaches and/or using inter-company transactions to allocated profits to entities that are
    subject to lower tax rates (including Hong Kong companies or PRC entities that have special tax benefits).”

    Overseas Activities: SAIC filings only reflect business activities in the PRC while filed reports with the SEC have to reflect worldwide financial data for the consolidated U.S.-listed company. Revenue that is generated overseas or assets held outside of the PRC (even Hong Kong) will not be included in the SAIC filings. Another good example for the effects is that cash that a company keeps on U.S. bank accounts to pay for overseas expenses might not show up on the balance sheet submitted to the SAIC.

    It can’t be denied that many Chinese companies try to under-report their net profits to the authorities. Roth Capital concludes that “companies often find ways to reduce PRC taxable net income through various means, including aggressive practices.” Another reason for understating financials with the SAIC is to avoid disclosing their real operating size to customers, suppliers and competitors. There, Chinese companies are not any different from those in America or Europe, why should they be?

    Conclusion
    Non-matching PRC and U.S. financial statements do not automatically point to errors, mis-statements or even fraud, as many of the circulating articles on this subject try to make you believe. In fact, in most cases they do not. The key here is the company’s independent public accounting firm, that is responsible for the SEC filings. The auditor is responsible for reconciling U.S. filings with the SAT tax filings in China. The amount of taxes paid in China are a U.S. GAAP expense and if the auditor has reviewed the Chinese filings and determines that there is an underpayment of tax, they will require the company to record a tax reserve on the balance sheet filed with the SEC.

    I do fully agree with Roth’s conclusion that a high quality auditing firm with a great level of experience in China and with Chinese accounting should be one of the key criteria for making any investment decision in U.S.-listed China small caps. While I acknowledge that audit expenses for an early stage Chinese firm with limited business and profits should be contained at a reasonable level, I am convinced that with growing revenues and net profits every Chinese company should consider appointing a top tier auditor, and those who have not done this should be approached with more caution by investors. Roth Capital Partners:

    “Severe discrepancies between U.S. GAAP reported income and PRC reported income and tax should be immediately apparent to the U.S. GAAP auditor, particularly those with extensive experience in China. We believe this experience is a critical consideration when evaluating companies as potential investments. We place most confidence in auditors with a high-level of experience in China, including a strong China-based team. While many U.S.-listed Chinese companies start out with less established auditors, we believe the highest quality companies migrate to more experienced auditors over time. We believe that retaining a small, inexperienced auditor year after year should be viewed as a risk factor and evaluated accordingly. “

    Here at Trading China you will find the auditors of all companies we are tracking on their Score Cards. There is also a full list of auditors available. The list doesn’t mean to imply that all those auditors not ranked in the Top 10 (or Top 100) are bad or less trustworthy, many of them might do a fantastic job, however it can be safely assumed that all the top tier names have extensive experience in China and a large number of partners, a reputation to lose, a strong China team, to deal with all those questions in the best of interests for the company and investors worldwide.

    Trading China Website

    Stocks: LIWA, ABAT, GURE, VIEW, HRBN, ONP, FMCN, YONG, APWR, HOGS
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  • algupta
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    It should help several companies that have had their share prices go down because of it.
    9 Jan 2012, 02:50 PM Reply Like
  • Short Charade
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    Author’s reply » We'll see what happens. The Short & Distort of Chinese companies makes for one hell of an interesting story and I think it's going to take a long time to unravel all of the intricacies behind who did what. Ultimately it will be all for the best, but there are going to be a lot of bumps along the way.
    30 Jan 2012, 07:22 AM Reply Like
  • The GeoTeam
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    Your understanding of the SAIC process is flawed as are your references. You apply articles from Roth and Big Ben Wey who have been associated with many companies that have misrepresented investors. Roth does not even talk about how corporate structures play into the SAIC issue. Good luck going long in this space without the proper road map.
    19 Feb 2012, 11:10 PM Reply Like
  • Short Charade
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    Author’s reply » I posted this as an alternative explanation rather than as an absolute - many of the "fraud" allegations state that if the SEC & SAIC filings don't match up then it is proof of fraud.

     

    Thank you for reinforcing my point that the topic is much more complex and not so cut & dry obvious, and that is all I was trying to illustrate.
    22 Feb 2012, 02:24 PM Reply Like
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