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  • Renzo
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    Number one?

     

    I dedicate this honor to Tom Granville with great confidence that an announcement of significant sales will soon be released!
    6 Nov 2013, 02:23 PM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    Let's hope he doesn't b*ow it this time around...
    6 Nov 2013, 02:52 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    Each day of continued silence now becomes logarithmic in damage. I am beginning to fear nobody on this board will stand under the falling knife. I really don't like this kind of price action on this kind of market day.

     

    Vexing, isn't it?

     

    I think I'll go out and plant my two new bench graft apple trees. Of course I won't get any fruit for six more years. Fruit production can take a long time. But then the trees don't make predictions.

     

    Sigh.
    6 Nov 2013, 02:36 PM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    Valleywood,

     

    You most likely meant exponential rather than logarithmic ;)
    6 Nov 2013, 02:42 PM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    It's OK Valleywood. Those of us who graph data on logarithmic charts knew what you meant. :-)
    6 Nov 2013, 02:50 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    VW: TG said we'd have news to talk about "at" the next earnings call, not before, and not "by"...

     

    "At"...

     

    Sometimes the most troubling words come in small packages.
    6 Nov 2013, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • Renzo
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    Very good point.
    6 Nov 2013, 03:25 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Just means the bail biter will come right down to the last word on the CC...
    6 Nov 2013, 03:46 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Here's Granville's quote from the August 2013 conf call transcript. Note that his comment was made at the end of the call, so if there's something in his earlier comments that contradicts this, though I don't think there is, then you might want to rely on this last comment:

     

    "I never promised orders on a timetable basis before. But, I will predict that we will have significant orders to talk about on our next earning call."

     

    And this is from the PR the same day as the conf call---8/15/2013:

     

    "We have spoken on various prior occasions about the numerous markets that our PbC products can service. I won't go into all of them here, but I will highlight the PowerCube and 'scaled' PowerCube markets. We are devoting significant time and resources to pursue these opportunities, and I expect to report a combination of confirmed orders and initial sales in these markets before our next quarterly earnings call in mid November. These opportunities include PbC applications for: back up for wind and solar; frequency regulation; electric vehicle charging stations; single family and multi-family residential back up, both grid tied and standalone; off grid lighting tied to renewables - and more. We look forward to reporting on the progress we make in these exciting areas."

     

    What Granville said, exactly, later during the AGM I leave for those who attended or for others who want to use Bang's nice search feature to reread apm's and other's write-ups.

     

    OT: Regarding the 999, Granville said this:

     

    "String testing and refinement continues at Penn State for both the all electric yard switcher and the hybrid road locomotive."

     

    Could help explain why that puppy is still inactive.
    6 Nov 2013, 03:56 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Lots of firm promises.

     

    "...before..." is, of course, not the same as "on". Or "at". Quite right, Mr. I.

     

    OK, if he is going to meet that promise, we should be hearing news any moment now...

     

    (Pssst, that's your cue, TG...)

     

    Ahem, "...ANY moment now..."

     

    chirp, chirrrrrp, chirp chirp...........

     

    (Hey, who cued the crickets? They're not in the script. Somebody get the insect wrangler up here!)
    6 Nov 2013, 04:10 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    So, everyone is of course free to conclude what they want, but I think Granville was saying he expects to ANNOUNCE PC orders and sales BEFORE the next conf call, AT which he will DISCUSS those.

     

    I used BOLD type because I don't know how to use underline. Just want to make sure no one thinks I'm shouting!

     

    Regarding those orders and sales, I'll be very interested in hearing not only the overview, .like $ amts and partner and customer names, etc., but timing, too. Tom Konrad seemed to think PC sales will quickly be cash but I have my doubts. Wouldn't there normally be progress pymts over the life of the project, which could be years? I mention this because there are opposing forces at work regarding the impact on the stk price---the awareness of the order, which would be good, but also awareness of the cash flow timing to a still struggling small company, which might be either good or bad.
    6 Nov 2013, 04:19 PM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    Mr. I,

     

    I am in alignment with your thinking also.

     

    I am of the belief that if Grandville had "significant orders" in hand he would not hold onto the info in order to report it at the CC, he would put out the release ASAP!

     

    No I am not shouting either! ;-))
    6 Nov 2013, 04:31 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    RB, my ongoing assumption is that news that CAN be released WILL be, ASAP, for two main reasons, 1) they probably have to, per what JP has mentioned regarding SEC rules prohibiting the hoarding of certain news, and 2) every day counts when the news flow is thin and you have ongoing PIPE issuance.
    6 Nov 2013, 04:43 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    Amouna, I prolly went to school long before ye. In the old days, one went to the natural log scale on one's slide rule, looked for the natural log, then went to the "C" (or was it "D"?) scale to find the exponent. Old habits die slowly. Old mathematicians on the other hand. . . . :>)

     

    I'll try to stay abreast of these new-fangled designations. You are, of course, correct.
    6 Nov 2013, 05:36 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    TB,

     

    He also said, "You'll hear from us soon." (stockholder meeting)

     

    I have been preparing myself for no announcements. It will be interesting, this cc, no matter what.

     

    I suspect an announcement would be more kindly interesting.
    6 Nov 2013, 05:38 PM Reply Like
  • tbone33
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    completely agree.
    6 Nov 2013, 11:58 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    Some may read TG's "to talk about" quote and conclude that all TG really promised is increased conversation/transparency on the next call (not revenues).

     

    I now think TG left this kind of wiggle in his word by design. Sure, it'd be great if there was a PR confirming orders but maybe TG plans only to talk about Axion's hypothetical future orders (the way ZBB and others do) and assumes this will keep his loyalists pacified.
    7 Nov 2013, 02:49 AM Reply Like
  • nogoodslacker
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    bazooka, I disagree. I think he was unequivocal in what he said and the only wiggle room is what is the meaning of "significant." He really dug himself into a hole if he does not come through on this, whether it be before or during the CC. Anything less than $1M in NEW sales will be an extreme disappointment to me.

     

    Frankly, anything less than $2M short term and an outlook of continued sales will be disappointing.
    7 Nov 2013, 08:54 AM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    NGS,

     

    I second you on this. I am personally hoping for something in the region of 5million+ and multi megawatt system for the island. If he doesn't come through with this after giving his word, then I guess there is not much hope in keeping him at the helm
    7 Nov 2013, 09:03 AM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    Hello hello :)
    6 Nov 2013, 02:41 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Bad buy:sell early has improved somewhat as price dropped - normal behavior. ARCA in and out all day long.

     

    Late-day weakness has returned. I'm expecting lower daily shorts and a so-so buy:sell at best.

     

    What I don't know is if some of price weakness today is folks that drove the price up based on pumpers' articles then did some DD and saw the PIPE and decided to sell.

     

    This could drive daily shorts up as the shares they bought should be yet unsettled to a large degree - normal settlement is T+3.

     

    In other news, CANT's 421K bid at $0.11 is nowhere to be found today. There's a 50K that hung around for a while but it's unseen for several hours now.

     

    Maybe that bid was part of the pump action - make it look like we had strong support down there?

     

    Never will I know.

     

    HardToLove
    6 Nov 2013, 02:55 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Or maybe it's the feeling that comes from having dug through 95 % of a dumpster knowing the odds of finding a wrapped up hot cherry pie and a gallon of cold milk at the bottom. At some point people are going to say "No mas".

     

    There are very few Ray Kroc's in the world. Sometimes when you think you've found one it ends up being a crock .....

     

    Edit, BTW, It sure looks like the PIPErs are back with a full treat bag.
    6 Nov 2013, 03:43 PM Reply Like
  • tahoe1780
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    Fascinating video: http://bit.ly/17Fusqj
    6 Nov 2013, 04:38 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Let's see what the new owners of the NYSE bring to the party.

     

    NYSE’s Next Owner: Small US Investors Get Ripped Off

     

    http://bit.ly/1hkT77v
    6 Nov 2013, 11:56 PM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    For better or worse, picked up 10K today and lowered my avg cost to .18. I still believe that good news of some sort will be coming on the 15th....maybe before. Still have some dry powder. Let's see what tomorrow brings. As Pogo said, "we have met the enemy and he is us!"
    6 Nov 2013, 04:51 PM Reply Like
  • Tim Enright
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    APH, Thanks for the header modifications! makes looking for changes/additions much easier...
    6 Nov 2013, 06:08 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Hmmm. Makes you wonder as divisions that are having huge success with an application might not wish to give up control of their tech.

     

    General Electric’s Slow Path to Grid-Scale Energy Storage

     

    " On the renewable integration front, GE recently moved its Energy Storage business unit to its renewable energy division, out of its transportation division, where the Durathon technology was originally developed for train locomotives. “The integration of those into one business is really making for an exciting platform in the renewables space,” he said."

     

    http://bit.ly/17NLpga
    6 Nov 2013, 07:37 PM Reply Like
  • greentongue
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    I empathize with TG. It must be very stressful to have company shaking news and not be allowed to even whisper about it without approval from someone else. It may be why he doesn't seem to be as concerned with the stock price as we are.

     

    "Grant me the serenity to accept that I cannot announce all the things I know, the courage to announce the things I can and wisdom to know the difference."
    6 Nov 2013, 08:01 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Solar Storage: The New Resilient Clean Energy Technology

     

    " With more grid operators coming into compliance with the FERC orders mentioned above, new third-party battery companies are beginning to take advantage of the revenue streams made possible by these regulatory changes. Two companies operating in this space are Solar Grid Storage and Energy Surety Partners. These companies provide the battery and inverter free of charge, collocated with a PV or wind generator. Their business models are based on the provision of grid services, services that energy storage systems like batteries can provide very quickly and accurately. They also engage in electricity arbitrage. The renewable generator benefits because the presence of energy storage smooths the combined system output and makes it more dispatchable; in a microgrid situation, the battery helps to integrate and balance local renewable generation with other generators and with loads. An example of this model in action is the new Konterra solar microgrid in Maryland."

     

    http://bit.ly/1cFuQaj
    7 Nov 2013, 12:20 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    New Agreement Signals Closer Co-operation Between International Lead Association and the Chinese Lead Industry

     

    "In addition the ILA-supported Advanced Lead Acid Battery Consortium is working with the Chinese industry in the development of industrial lead-acid batteries to improve the energy efficiency of lifting equipment, such as port cranes and elevators."

     

    http://bit.ly/HKHh6d
    7 Nov 2013, 12:31 AM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    I wonder if it is detriment to Axion in getting government money that they are still listed in new documents as having received 34M with Exide, but it would appear from the outside that there is very little to show for it.

     

    http://1.usa.gov/1bchm0C
    7 Nov 2013, 12:42 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    I suspect people re just not noticing or caring that their SS system is delivering less and less savings as the battery performance deteriorates.

     

    Behind the warranties

     

    "With manufacturer warranties extending further than before, Alex Grant asks leasing companies whether vehicles are proving to be as reliable as the paperwork implies."
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    "Ironically, it’s the systems most drivers won’t notice which are the ones having the most impact. Leasing companies reported no issues with stop/start systems, while the latest downsized petrol and diesel engines and hybrids are proving as reliable, if not more so, than their predecessors. Electric and hybrid vehicles are also tending to come in under their predicted SMR costs."
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    "Top 5 vehicle faults
    1. Batteries
    Still a leading cause of breakdown calls, but difficult to diagnose whether the vehicle or driver is at fault. This usually results in the vehicle being jump-started at the roadside and taken to the nearest garage, but rarely results in a new battery being fitted due to wear and tear."

     

    http://bit.ly/17OiYP6
    7 Nov 2013, 12:52 AM Reply Like
  • Axion Power Host
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    Author’s reply » John's Price, volume and FINRA daily short charts have been updated through 11/06.
    7 Nov 2013, 05:52 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    11/06/2013: EOD stuff partially copied from blog (up already).
    # Trds: 146, MinTrSz: 222, MaxTrSz: 85000, Vol: 1471255, AvTrSz: 10077
    Min. Pr: 0.1210, Max Pr: 0.1335, VW Avg. Tr. Pr: 0.1272
    # Buys, Shares: 45 357255, VW Avg Buy Pr: 0.1282
    # Sells, Shares: 100 1109000, VW Avg Sell Pr: 0.1269
    # Unkn, Shares: 1 5000, VW Avg Unk. Pr: 0.1300
    Buy:Sell 1:3.10 (24.3% "buys"), DlyShts 347896 (23.65%), Dly Sht % of 'sells' 31.37%

     

    A few excerpts ...

     

    Matching this, VWAP behaved as we would expect – down -5.07%.

     

    My original inflection point calculations continue saying weakening. All but the 10-day period are in agreement. The 10-day will likely capitulate tomorrow.

     

    The newer version now agrees 100%, but for the 10-day which has capitulated and agrees with the other periods.

     

    Recently I mentioned the newer 5 and 10-day calculations were suggesting weakness ahead of the longer periods and said if they are more reliable I've got to believe they are leading the longer periods. If we get another day like today, I believe their better reliability is confirmed.

     

    Looking at some traditional TA indications, we overlapped the 50-day SMA, $0.1241, again. We had a lower low and high too - $0.1210 and $0.1335. We closed below the mid-point of the Bollinger band, $0.125, at $0.122. We have begun to recede from the price-point resistance at ~$0.14 we were unable to penetrate the last two days. We had rising volume on a down day – ~1.338MM yesterday vs. today's ~1.471MM (+9.97%). Every oscillator I watch is weakening and a few, RSI, momentum and stochastic, are below neutral readings. Williams %R has entered oversold.

     

    Intra-day trading breakdown and more commentary and statistics available in the blog here.

     

    http://seekingalpha.co...

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 07:38 AM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    Looks like the stock that shall not be named is being sold in earnest this time....
    Is the bubble deflating at last? :)
    7 Nov 2013, 07:42 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Doing what NSC is looking to do with the OTR Battery loco. By integrating topography data into the vehicle engine control system you can add and subtract energy as required to maintain momentum. Harder for a train as there are more variables but with computers it's manageable.

     

    Plus it saves on tires/brakes and it's safer.

     

    Bosch and PSA improve hybrid and EV efficiency

     

    http://bit.ly/1hPozbR
    7 Nov 2013, 07:48 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    In a lot of ways it can be easier with trains because the railroads have detailed engineering and topography data on every foot of track. Once the data exists putting it into a useful form and then using it is far easier than creating the data in the first place.
    7 Nov 2013, 07:54 AM Reply Like
  • Tim Enright
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    The class 8 truck OEM's have this as well. Freightliner calls it Predictive Cruise Control...

     

    http://bit.ly/1aIdYOy
    7 Nov 2013, 08:32 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Tim Enright ... It is a great idea. I wonder how much a system like this would be of benefit to ePower since its idea is a steady state engine. I can envision a marginal benefit of approaching an upgrade at an optimum speed and throttling back in anticipation of a downgrade. Still this is a system of greater benefit to a diesel only truck.
    7 Nov 2013, 08:59 PM Reply Like
  • Tim Enright
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    >DRich ... I am thinking it would benefit ePower more since a diesel only truck cannot capture the lost energy descending a grade it can only freewheel to the point of safety then brake. ePower could predict the grade and spend the reserves down because it knows how much could be gained on the next downgrade and where it is located.

     

    I think it would be a very big deal if ePower could gain access to this software and for some reason I am thinking this has been mentioned to me. Unfortunately, my memory isn't what it once was so it could have been in a dream...
    7 Nov 2013, 09:30 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    We've been looking at the possibility of using predictive electronics to minimize battery drain when it's not essential and maximize the state-of-charge when an upcoming grade will require an extra effort. In experiments using a manually controlled system we've seen some meaningful savings. As you might expect, that's a some day class of enhancement rather than something immediate.
    7 Nov 2013, 09:32 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    JP: With the predictive software ISTM that it's a lot like time-shifting. I presume that certain cases would take the batteries to 100% SOC in anticipation of the drain and then, if lucky enough, that extra 20% buffer would end with the SOC within the real desired range through the drain?

     

    In many ways it's also like the driver anticipating the upcoming hill and picking up extra speed on approaching it to have momentum help reduce the number of downshifts and keep a better average speed going up the hill.

     

    Relating to the batteries, one process stores kinetic energy and the other stores electrical energy. In either case, neither process is really fuel-efficiency oriented, so much as keeping a reasonable average speed?

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 05:56 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    You're already out of my depth on the detail. Our primary goal is getting to the same performance you'd see from a conventional tractor under the same grade and load conditions with much better fuel economy.
    8 Nov 2013, 06:08 AM Reply Like
  • greentongue
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    I think the main point here is that, once everyone sees the actual performance and is impressed, it can get even better.
    8 Nov 2013, 08:08 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    We see room for significant improvements in several components because none of them have been designed to perform the function we're asking them to perform. If we had enough money to pay for custom designs and made-to-order components we could probably get better performance from the generator, drive motor and transmission. For now the goal is getting to a system that does the required work at an attractive price. Once we have a system that does the work, we'll be able to do the required cost-benefit analysis on potential enhancements and implement the ones that make the most sense.
    8 Nov 2013, 08:28 AM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Tim Enright & Other Gearheads ... Has there ever been a Continuously Variable Transmission [CVT] designed for a Class 8. So far I can't find any reference. I would think that if such a thing exists it would be a good fit for ePower's steady state design. I know that combines use such a transmission as well as a few cars (Boxster is the only one I can think of at the moment).

     

    My favorite was a design by VW which was basically a torque converter controlled worm gear but there are many variations. Then there is a magnetic system that looks interesting. Well, it was just a daydreaming thought and I know that it is, or might be, one of those future ideas. I was just wondering ... again.
    8 Nov 2013, 09:10 AM Reply Like
  • Tim Enright
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    >DRich ... not that I am aware of. The most efficient transmission is the auto-shift which is a manual transmission with the mechanics to change gears automatically. The trend has also been to reduce the number of gears and make the final gear direct drive (instead of over drive) and the rear axle geared to match the engine sweet spot and ideal cruise speed.

     

    Allison seems to be the leader in automatic transmissions for heavy vehicles but my understanding is much is lost through a torque converter. Perhaps they are working on it...
    10 Nov 2013, 01:06 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Tim Enright ... Allison is also the only credible developer of a CVT that I know of but it will not be available for Class 8 until 2017 ... at the earliest.
    10 Nov 2013, 01:28 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    John, I understand your point. NSC has been working with the GE leader program for some time so they are pretty far along. An oversimplification but now it's a matter of integrating the energy storage system to allow for more flexibility and less waste when energy needs to be removed from the train such as during downgrades and deceleration for stops.

     

    And like with ePower it makes more sense where the topography is rolling, twisting turning. Like much of NSC's territory.

     

    And with that, an order would be nice.
    7 Nov 2013, 08:52 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Level 2 this A.M. has only 4 MMs showing bids - $0.10-$0.12. No ATDF, BTIG, NITE, ...

     

    On the ask, in a reasonable ask range, only 7 $0.125->$0.16.

     

    This may be an interesting day.

     

    Fortunately, on the offer MAXM is willing to let 100 shares go at $80.00!

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 09:45 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    I don't know. I sense some technical problem. No trades, no change in bid/ask in half an hour. Odd.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:02 AM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    I agree with tech problem as a few other stocks I watch have the same symptoms!
    7 Nov 2013, 10:06 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    NITE just made it in on the ask w/$0.1248x10K.

     

    I thought maybe everybody was just tied up trying to get in on the (TWTR) IPO.

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 10:10 AM Reply Like
  • tomcat818
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    Strange, I'm not seeing any price or volume movement on AXPW. Not on ThinkorSwim (TD Ameritrade), MW, or the Axion web page???
    7 Nov 2013, 10:13 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    I threw out a 10000 share order in between for the heck of it and my screen didn't change. Showing .12 bid and .125 ask. Order now pulled.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:22 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Looks like the OTC market has crashed.

     

    No activity.

     

    http://bit.ly/HEHwiK

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 11:23 AM Reply Like
  • pascquale
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    My etrade quote screen is showing dashes for bid and ask:(
    7 Nov 2013, 10:00 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    My screen is showing the same thing...but my streaming page is showing ,12 bid, .125 ask.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:12 AM Reply Like
  • Alphameister
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    Any possibility that trading has been suspended pending a news announcement?
    7 Nov 2013, 10:20 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    I've got a couple of other stocks similar to AXPW that are doing the same thing, so I don't think that's it.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:27 AM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    OT
    Looks like Tesla can't catch a break. First the stock falls and then another car bites the dust. Seems like it was road debris again, since there was no confirmed accident.

     

    http://on.mktw.net/1iP...
    7 Nov 2013, 10:24 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Smyrna Tennessee. That's where the Nissan plant is located. Looking to increase their EV share!

     

    Probably threw a pipe in the road. I hear PIPEs can cause problems. ;-(
    7 Nov 2013, 10:39 AM Reply Like
  • tomcat818
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    I blame it on the Twitter IPO... :)

     

    However, I haven't heard of any market outages today but it could be the Toronto OTC is the only market affected.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:32 AM Reply Like
  • Josh Greene
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    Pink sheet data feeds are having issues. Check out Zerohedge.com for an update.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:34 AM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Josh Greene .... Here is the ZH link

     

    http://bit.ly/1iPiLg2

     

    No updates until further notice on Pink Sheets. Figures. Last week the Options on NASDAQ were not traded for 2 days. Did anyone notice?
    7 Nov 2013, 10:39 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Thanks Josh & DRich. No, I didn't notice.

     

    NASDAQ going to have some spanin to do.

     

    Now, There is probably a clause in the PIPE contract where they get my first born if this happens.
    7 Nov 2013, 10:46 AM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >iindelco ... Sadly, nothing will happen to NASDAQ for screwing things up. At least we get a breather from losing money today. That pretty-much counts as a good day at the Market for Axion.

     

    I long for the days when the Exchanges were nonprofit partnerships. Back when there was actual accountability and a concern for getting things done correctly.
    7 Nov 2013, 11:00 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    DRich, It is pretty sad. But failures do occur and if they are managed well I guess that's all we can ask.

     

    Then again, Maybe they needed the bandwidth for Twitter. That would make this issue a disgrace.
    7 Nov 2013, 11:18 AM Reply Like
  • geopark
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    IB gave me the folllwing messages
    To ARCAEDGE,NITE Traders:
    Pink Sheet Stock market data will be unavailable until further notice

     

    [Mesg Id: 394070] 2013/11/07 10:03
    2013/11/07 10:03

     

    To ISLAND Traders:
    At the request of NASDAQ, We have disabled direct routing to ISLAND for TWTR until further notice.

     

    geopark
    7 Nov 2013, 10:35 AM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    I was going to ask, did the lights go off in the Cayman Islands today? But i guess it has something to do with the twitter IPO.
    7 Nov 2013, 11:17 AM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    I am hearing from my broker that the OTC markets expect to reopen at 12:00 PM.
    7 Nov 2013, 11:35 AM Reply Like
  • Masi
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    From what my broker told me all of the OTC market is down. That's all I could get out of them. I called the NASDAQ main office and they transferred me to tech and they said they don't know anything.

     

    this is the first message on my broker site at 11/7/2013 9:36:49 AM "As you are well aware there are some network issues. DAS is working to correct. EDGE is currently down. So if you have an order to EDGE it is on hold. My suggestion would be to CXL and replace order to another route. Thank you . OTC Markets Group : TC Link ATS has halted quoting/messaging until 10:00 EST."

     

    2nd message at 11/7/2013 10:14:45 AM "To All Clients: OTC Markets remains halted. Stay tuned for further updates"
    7 Nov 2013, 10:45 AM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    Don't believe a word your broker tells you.

     

    I have it on the reliable word of my Australian Shepherd that the OTC execution platform is being patched to handle large numbers.

     

    He says the PbC order he sees in his water bowl is so large NASD has warned of an avalanche of security buy orders. Plus AXPW being rushed to the NYSE through SPQ (special provisions and qualifications).

     

    :>)

     

    Of course, he could be wrong.

     

    :>(
    7 Nov 2013, 10:59 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    VW,

     

    Smart Dogs, Australian Shephards...
    7 Nov 2013, 11:07 AM Reply Like
  • Bylo-
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    Whew! I was afraid the zero volume was something I did! I have a knack for those kind of things.
    7 Nov 2013, 11:09 AM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    DRich,

     

    "at least we get a breather from losing money today."

     

    Priceless !

     

    LOL. Gasping for air. Ribs ache.

     

    Wife watching me.. . . .wife worried.

     

    Wife now picking up phone.

     

    Perhaps this is the break she's been waiting for. :>)
    7 Nov 2013, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • JohnM121
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    If they hadn't shutdown the mental institutions decades ago, there wouldn't be anyone on this concentrator.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:25 PM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    Well, here's my ignorance showing. For months I've tried to figure out what SWMBO means. Anyone want to clue me in, or do you like to watch me suffer?
    7 Nov 2013, 11:19 AM Reply Like
  • tomcat818
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    She who must be obeyed...
    7 Nov 2013, 11:24 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Raleigh: We obviously like suffering or wouldn't be in AXPW! :-))

     

    She Who Must Be Obeyed!

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 11:28 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    HTL, Tomcat,

     

    Ahhhhhhhh! I got instructions on getting some painting done today...does that mean I gotta?
    7 Nov 2013, 11:54 AM Reply Like
  • tomcat818
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    No doubt... otherwise you could be looking at SWMBP(aid). ;)
    7 Nov 2013, 12:09 PM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    raleigh731,
    Don't feel bad. I didn't know either. I was just too lazy to ask!
    7 Nov 2013, 12:25 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    raleigh,

     

    I one time received instructions from SWMBO and did not follow them.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:44 PM Reply Like
  • SMaturin
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    VW,

     

    Ouch. Did something turn blue?
    7 Nov 2013, 03:17 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    SMaturin,

     

    I now have only one of what I used to have two of.
    7 Nov 2013, 04:31 PM Reply Like
  • DaveT
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    Raleigh, If I'm typical, then in the UK the phrase became well known via Mortimer's "Rumpole of the Bailey" book and TV series, http://bit.ly/1hp4Gus.
    8 Nov 2013, 03:30 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Raleigh: She's smart! She's doing long-term planning for you for the next episode of "Watching The Paint Dry" - the long-running but somewhat sporadic episodic tale of Axion. If Axion gets busy you'll have another venue in which to pursue our favorite pastime! :-))

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 05:59 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    DaveT: Aha! That's where I first heard it! I used to really like that show. I recall now laughing out load when he uttered it!

     

    Thanks!
    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 06:01 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    Dave T,

     

    That sounds like it was a very entertaining series. BBC has been very innovative over the years.
    8 Nov 2013, 08:16 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    HT,

     

    I'm in trouble....haven't been to Home Depot to get the paint yet....I might be getting a real education on the true meaning of SWMBO!
    8 Nov 2013, 08:17 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    By the way...is it pronounced swimbo?
    8 Nov 2013, 08:18 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Raleigh: Man you must be a real youngster!

     

    It's pronounced "Yes dear"!

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 08:24 AM Reply Like
  • froggey77
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    I Google such combinations as SWMBO
    http://bit.ly/1bevAzV
    http://bit.ly/1bevAzW
    What is SWMBO?

     

    SWMBO is "She Who Must Be Obeyed "

     

    SWMBO Definition / SWMBO Means
    The definition of SWMBO is "She Who Must Be Obeyed "

     

    The Meaning of SWMBO
    SWMBO means "She Who Must Be Obeyed "

     

    So now you know - SWMBO means "She Who Must Be Obeyed " - don't thank us. YW!

     

    What does SWMBO mean? SWMBO is an acronym, abbreviation or slang word that is explained above where the SWMBO definition is given.

     

    Also while generally a bit more earthy, there's the Urban Dictionary
    http://bit.ly/1bevAA4

     

    3. SWMBO
    Pronounced 'swimbo': 'she who must be obeyed'. Your wife, dumbnuts! She's the kind that makes you go to SOFEs 'significant-other forced events'!
    A gentler form of SWMBO is a GLW: 'good lady wife', rare as a two-talied lizard!
    8 Nov 2013, 04:13 PM Reply Like
  • obieephyhm
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    yes, but do you know it's literary source?
    8 Nov 2013, 09:38 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    12:00 PM come and past. Still no market.
    Sigh. At least this crap didn't happen on a day where we got an announcement. I would be pulling my hair out right now.
    7 Nov 2013, 12:12 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    "pulling my hair out right now"

     

    Can I borrow some so I can pull too? ;-))

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 12:27 PM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    Am I mistaken here but doesn't Axion usually put out a release regarding when they will release their Q and the CC at least a week in advance?

     

    Maybe TG has come up with a brainstorm and has decided to just release the Q on the 14th and NOT follow through with a CC this time around, that way he could avoid attempting to answer why no "significant orders"!

     

    No I am not seriously thinking this to be a real possibility!
    7 Nov 2013, 12:16 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Here's last years press release for Q3 earnings release. It came out on the 7th of Nov.

     

    http://prn.to/1iPxvM2
    7 Nov 2013, 12:25 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >RBrun357 ... C'mon, there is no need to be so glum. Axion is not trading today. Axion didn't make any announcement today. NS999 isn't rolling anywhere today. No news about a manufacturing partnership today.

     

    Let's focus on the good stuff for a change. Today is a gift. Enjoy it.
    7 Nov 2013, 12:26 PM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    DRich,

     

    Thanks for cheering me up!

     

    ;-))
    7 Nov 2013, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    Is it possible that AXPW would work with JCI?

     

    I know the Exide relationship was a bad one, but JCI is a pretty strong, diversified company.
    7 Nov 2013, 12:42 PM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    Patrick,
    It's not impossible, but with everything JCI has said over the years, they would pretty much have to be dragged kicking and screaming to work with Axion. IMHO. JCI thinks there isn't a battery problem that they don't already have a solution for, and has gone to great lengths in the past to ignore any of the data that Axion has put out showing that AGM batteries are inferior for SS compared to the PbC. I think the only way you're going to see a PbC battery being made in a JCI plant, is if Axion finally goes BK and JCI can buy the technology for pennies on the dollar like they tried to do with A123.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:13 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Labtech: " I think the only way you're going to see a PbC battery being made in a JCI plant, is if Axion finally goes BK and JCI can buy the technology for pennies on the dollar like they tried to do with A123"

     

    Or an important customer says they're going to use PbC and JCI can choose to participate or not.

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 01:23 PM Reply Like
  • nogoodslacker
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    JCI is working with Maxwell supercapacitors to develop a hybrid battery system that could compete with Axion in many applications. So probably more of competitor than a partner.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    My opinion. Why would JCI do this. If the automakers are willing to deal with the performance, warranty and consumer dissatisfaction JCI should just continue to go with AGM. After all they sell the replacement batteries and we all know how manufacturers like to design things to last just so long.

     

    The big money in the automotive market is in the aftermarket on average. You can bet JCI makes far more on their replacement batteries than they do on their original OEM supplied units.

     

    You don't think they keep making wiper blades more and more complex with patented attachments for significantly better performance do you? Heck, Valeo even put a UV sensitive indicator on their blades to tell you when to change them since the UV is one of the principle things that destroys the polymer element. An indicator just like the toothbrush guys.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:37 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    NGS, That is Exide not JCI.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:40 PM Reply Like
  • nogoodslacker
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    I stand corrected.
    7 Nov 2013, 02:09 PM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    HTL,
    I've come to the conclusion that the only way JCI will ever make a PbC battery in one of it's plants is if competitors are already making PbC batteries in their plants and JCI sees a loss of business because of it. Until then, they are always going to tell their customers that their in house solution is better than the PbC. IMHO.
    7 Nov 2013, 02:20 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Thought it might brighten your day to know that for the first time in a long time all indicators at the same time are *not* going negative!

     

    Zero trades, zero price decline, buy:sell 0:0 (balanced for a change), TA indicators unchanged and my inflection point calculations holding steady.

     

    Now we know what it takes to "drop till you stop". :-))

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 12:44 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    And Michael Jordan has yet to defeat me one-on-one. ;^P
    7 Nov 2013, 01:32 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    MrI: He'd be lucky if the the BB team he bought could defeat you one on all five! ;-))

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 01:42 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    lol HTL

     

    OT: almost time to get another wordsmithing contest going. We've done limericks and hiaku already. How 'bout freestyle rap?
    7 Nov 2013, 01:48 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    I can't find it anymore but when I first did a Google Finance search for twtr this morning, a 5 cent otc ticker by the same name was trading with unusual volume.

     

    edit: OTCMKTS:THEGQ
    7 Nov 2013, 01:04 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    http://bit.ly/1iPFCs1

     

    A "connectivity issue". Sounds like hardware.

     

    Edit: Also, no indication when the market will reopen.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:24 PM Reply Like
  • nogoodslacker
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    I wonder if the market being down all day will count as a volume fail according to the PIPE deal?
    7 Nov 2013, 01:33 PM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    The Tesla investors probably wish their market was down today.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:38 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    "Force majeure" events like the failure of a trading platform that are beyond the influence or control of any party are typically viewed as irrelevant to contract provisions like the volume failure clause.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:39 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    It will reduce confidence in OTC markets overall. Imagine if one really needed to raise cash from their OTC holdings today. They would be up &#^@ creek.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:44 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Aren't you glad that Axion didn't come out with a world-beating press release this morning?

     

    I'm not a big believer in astrology, but Mercury Retrograde is always a bitch.

     

    FWIW, my latest article just posted:

     

    http://seekingalpha.co...
    7 Nov 2013, 01:50 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    JP, are you implying that a man celebrating his birth this general time of astral alignment is a son of same?
    7 Nov 2013, 01:56 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    Yes. I am very glad. It would be excruciating to know you could be watching your stock fly only to watch a blank screen.
    7 Nov 2013, 01:57 PM Reply Like
  • flyinglow
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    For what it's worth and can't tell how I know but ns is setting up a training class to train engineers to operate the all electric switcher and the hybrid loco
    7 Nov 2013, 01:38 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Flyinglow: that's better than seeing a pic of the NS999 actually pulling something under it's own power.

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 01:44 PM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    flying low,

     

    That is a very interesting statement, can you provide something at least so we might be able to assume that you are not just baiting us??
    7 Nov 2013, 01:45 PM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    flying,

     

    MAN I wish I could buy some stock today on this news!!!! :)
    7 Nov 2013, 01:53 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    "Setting up a training class" connotes preparation for startup. Questions iinclude, When would the training start and how long is the training period?

     

    Side note to DR :-). There it is again, DR. Academic exercise!
    7 Nov 2013, 02:56 PM Reply Like
  • froggey77
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    D-inv
    "Setting up a training class" connotes preparation for startup. Questions iinclude, When would the training start and how long is the training period?"

     

    3000 Women are now being recruited.
    To have children.
    The children's first phrase will be "Axion inside."
    These children will be specially designed Legos. with PbC stickers on them.
    Growing up they will have unlimited access to Lionel's factory and later the locomotive section of the Henry Ford Museum and Atlanta NSC training center.
    .......
    After the successful candidates getting PHD as EEs 5 will be selected as potential instructors.
    .....
    For the next generation which will be trained for 10 years to work with the 999 and hybrid locomotives.

     

    NSC Racing to the future.

     

    :-)
    7 Nov 2013, 08:28 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I share your frustration with the amount of time potential customers are taking. After all, I want what I want and I want it right now.

     

    That being said, I think it takes incredible chutzpa for the stockholders of any company to openly mock, criticize and condemn the decision making processes of a paying customer that's trying to make the right choice before deploying tens or hundreds of millions of dollars on technology implementation.
    7 Nov 2013, 09:35 PM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    John,
    Like it or not, chutzpa we got...a moving NS999 we don't. They did a presentation on the thing and it still sits. What kind of response would they think that would get?
    7 Nov 2013, 09:50 PM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    No what we have is a multi-year chart from hell. Continued stockholders in Axion can basically say any dang thing they want. To normal people, the likes of BlackRock included, it's unbelievable that we still have positions let alone keep adding.

     

    Hopefully, we don't hear the cry of wolf again.
    7 Nov 2013, 09:59 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    :-) Another question occurs. Will those locomotive engineers be training to run 'Axion inside' electric locomotives or 'Corvus Energy inside' locomotives?
    8 Nov 2013, 12:09 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    D-Inv: Unless I missed something, that's very early in the process and they don't have the software and hardware yet? So training now would be premature ISTM.

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 06:09 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I guess that depends on whether you want to believe an old Corvus grant application or a new NS Sustainability Report.
    8 Nov 2013, 06:09 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    I agree with JP. I don't think NSC would make the blatant statement about axion if they were even thinking of going another way. It would be nice if the 999 were a decoy and another switcher were in trials in Mcdonnough!
    8 Nov 2013, 08:22 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    I can't help but think that risk considerations will be a big part of the decision making process concerning which technology they adopt. Many of these loco's will be in and around highly populated areas and other high value "targets". Given the possibility of mishaps or worse I'll take lead and dilute H2SO4 over highly flammable solvents sitting in devices at a high SOC.

     

    http://bit.ly/tLMbw6
    8 Nov 2013, 09:34 AM Reply Like
  • KentG
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    raleigh731, I think a lot of us have been thinking that for some time. It is the only explanation that makes sense to me. Hope we are right.
    8 Nov 2013, 08:55 PM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Would it be possible to have simulated the NS 999 for training?
    9 Nov 2013, 12:09 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Stefan, I thought about that. My response would be than it's a highly regulated industry and even if you can't get the feel for the ride you have to make sure tons of procedures are followed. It's very regimented for sure.

     

    There would be lots of educational instruction that would be prepared for the students. Much adapted from the first time around.

     

    Even if you had the same engineers from the first NS999 roll out too much time has elapsed.
    9 Nov 2013, 12:41 AM Reply Like
  • Tim Enright
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    If I remember correctly, the NS 999 had plenty of operating time. Enough to gather some pretty useful data to be used in the next version. At least that is what I would have salvaged from the eminent battery failure. I think they have all the information they need to build a training program (and have).

     

    They also dragged the NS999 al over the country (see YouTube) and I suspect they have OTR data set that is valuable for modeling.

     

    IMO, these are the things that NS has been working on and they we have been waiting for...
    10 Nov 2013, 01:14 PM Reply Like
  • tahoe1780
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    Slow day reading: http://bit.ly/1hQdAir
    7 Nov 2013, 01:43 PM Reply Like
  • flyinglow
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    can't say much more, don't want to get anybody in trouble for talking out of turn, Can say it's happening in Atlanta
    7 Nov 2013, 02:24 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Flyinglow, Thank you for what you could share. It's appreciated.
    7 Nov 2013, 02:34 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    flyingglow,

     

    Is that in Atlanta (Inman or Industry) or is it actually in McDonough?
    7 Nov 2013, 04:35 PM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    Comments (781) | Send Message
     
    flyinglow,

     

    Thanks
    7 Nov 2013, 06:36 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    So the "graduates" of the Penn State course on the 999 have moved down to Atlanta, to train on an actual working 999 at Norfolk's Inman Yard?

     

    Hopium Note: That possibly means that NS has bought 856 (?) more 30HT batteries.

     

    (I like the name "Inman," a protagonist in one of my favorite novels titled "Cold Mountain.")
    7 Nov 2013, 02:38 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Maya: Most likely the training is a combo of classroom and simulator?

     

    Later stages would do "hands on"?

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 02:41 PM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Would be cool to figure out an agency to direct a FOIA request to.
    7 Nov 2013, 02:45 PM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Looks like NS has this program in Atlanta

     

    http://bit.ly/1hQn8Kl
    7 Nov 2013, 02:47 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    Could be, HTL. I have long speculated that NS is working on the 999 in both Altoona, and elsewhere, too. There was sometime ago, around $656,000 worth of PbCs that I have no idea where they went.

     

    Another possibility is that at the Inman Yard NSC "may" be working on an OTR locomotive, as the Crescent Line does run through Atlanta.

     

    Way too much hopium on a dull, dreary day here in Philly.
    7 Nov 2013, 02:48 PM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Maya,

     

    Agreed way too much hopium. However, while the waiting seems interminable, it just doesn't make sense for NS to mention its partner Axion in the sustainability report, make a high profile presentation on the NS999, but leave it sitting around for months on end.

     

    I just can't square it ...
    7 Nov 2013, 02:56 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    Mayascribe !

     

    Where in Philly ?

     

    Ware-yew-bin?
    7 Nov 2013, 04:38 PM Reply Like
  • anthlj
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    What happened to foia request fr Axion failed grant application of earlier 213?
    Thanks
    8 Nov 2013, 06:17 AM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    Near Valley Forge Park, VW.
    8 Nov 2013, 09:29 AM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    Thanks, Maya.

     

    My mother is on the other side. Near Yardley/Trenton/Washin... Crossing.
    8 Nov 2013, 09:52 AM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    False alarm...
    7 Nov 2013, 02:50 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    C'mon ETrade! I'm not seeing anything yet!

     

    EDIT: ETrade uses Bloomberg feed - maybe that wehre the connectivity issue was and it's taking time to "ramp".

     

    EDIT2: But OTC shows activity now.

     

    http://bit.ly/HEHwiK

     

    EDIT3: None for AXPW yet though.

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 02:53 PM Reply Like
  • Patrick Young
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    Ok. Now we're back.
    7 Nov 2013, 03:04 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    But ETrade has time and sales working but level 2 shows no mms

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Apparently ATL is some type of train engineer mecca

     

    http://bit.ly/1iPT6UK
    7 Nov 2013, 03:04 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Stefan: That's great - scroll on down and we see a simulator!

     

    HardToLove
    7 Nov 2013, 03:25 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    Thanks, Steph.

     

    "Locomotive engineers from all over the country come to the training center to spend four weeks in an intensive training program to learn how to operate the engines. "
    7 Nov 2013, 03:27 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    McDonough is actually several miles south of the city off I-75. Southern Railway started the project some time ago. Training is done for all of the Operating Division. (or at least they did. New stuff may have been added.)

     

    Engineers, switchmen, conductor, electrician, (signalman) track repairmen (serious welders), and the list goes on.

     

    Takes 25 minutes from Spring Street office (now closed) to get to OB's BBQ. Formerly "Out in Back BBQ", name supposedly bought out by Outback Steak House to avoid the courts. Still a serious BBQ contender, and IMHO, home to the best fried pickles on the planet. Dandy ribs (dry), good iced tea, solid french fries, and the best bleeping BBQ chicken north of the gnat line. Six driving minutes from the McDonough Training Center and just off I-75. If you're going to Florida, stop in.

     

    Some Atlanta company officers on Fridays would flash down to OB's for lunch for special occasions. I would be a 2-hour lunch though, or so I've heard.

     

    Oh, yeah. The Training Center is the best in the country.

     

    NS had (has?) two simulators and hands-on in McDonough.
    7 Nov 2013, 04:56 PM Reply Like
  • Renzo
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    I had an interesting conversation with an employee of a truck manufacturer today. A local business has a number of nat gas trucks (I believe Class 8) they are testing. They're apparently having trouble with engine wear, presumably due to the fact that there is no natural lubrication with gas like there is with diesel fuel.

     

    Anybody else hear about such problems? It would bode well for the ePower/Axion solution over LNG/CNG.
    7 Nov 2013, 06:08 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    Renzo ... Don't know anything at all about nat gas truck engines, but do know nat gas stationary engines have a long history of reliable performance.
    7 Nov 2013, 06:20 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I haven't seen any reports of unsolved lubrication issues with NG fuel systems, but it would be a great competitive advantage for ePower if you could find a few and send me links; the more the merrier.
    7 Nov 2013, 06:26 PM Reply Like
  • Renzo
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    The remark was made in response to my mention of ePower's technology and the PbC battery. He's a non-technical type and mentioned the gas vehicle issue in an off-handed way and asked me not to discuss the manufacturer's name. I wish I knew more or could say more, but it was a 1-2 minute conversation.
    7 Nov 2013, 06:35 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Know little on nat. gas engines. I do know they were suffering from excessive bearing wear in engines with SS systems. Work has been done in this area by Federal Mogul and others.

     

    A F FEDERAL-MOGUL IROX FEDERAL-MOGUL IROX The IROX(TM) bearing overlay can help increase the life of crankshafts and bearing shells by more than five times in more extreme applications, such as direct-injected engines and engines with stop-start ...

     

    http://prn.to/16KJrMV
    7 Nov 2013, 06:43 PM Reply Like
  • Renzo
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    According to this report from Cummins (pages 5-6), maintenance isn't a problem for their garbage truck NGV's. I don't know how wear and tear on the engine would compare to that of an over-the-road truck.

     

    http://bit.ly/HFa64f
    9 Nov 2013, 11:02 AM Reply Like
  • Renzo
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    FYI, and not suggesting anything about PbC relative value.

     

    "Lead Prices Are Heavy Favorite to Rise"
    http://on.wsj.com/1d0cJYP
    7 Nov 2013, 07:30 PM Reply Like
  • froggey77
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    Tesla lawsuit looks like the are fishing could be about the stock dropping or the fires.
    Shareholder Alert: Bronstein, Gewirtz & Grossman, LLC Announces Investigation of Tesla Motors, Inc.
    http://on.mktw.net/1av...

     

    The investigation concerns whether Tesla and certain of its officers and/or directors have violated Sections 10(b) and 20(a) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. On August 19, 2013, Tesla issued a press release touting its Model S as having achieved the "best safety rating of any car ever tested" by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. ("NHTSA"). Then on October 2, 2013, an analyst downgraded Tesla due to "execution risk." That same day, a Model S burst into flames after hitting road debris in Kent, Washington. Reports indicated that the fire originated in the car's battery. Then on October 17, 2013 in Merida, Mexico, a Model S sped into a roundabout, crashed through a concrete wall and hit a tree. The driver fled the scene before the car went up in flames. The U.S. automotive Web site Jalopnik reported the story, citing from an October 18, 2013 Mexican newspaper Progreso Hoy. Then on November 6, 2013 shares of Tesla fell $25.75 or 14.56% during intraday trading to trade at $155.06 after reporting disappointing third quarter earnings the previous night.
    8 Nov 2013, 12:09 AM Reply Like
  • LabTech
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    froggey77,

     

    Ah, the lawyers have arrived! Smell a little blood in the water and now they are trying to pull a piece off flesh off for themselves. I may not like the way Musk does things, but this lawsuit is BS.
    8 Nov 2013, 07:04 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I agree wholeheartedly LabTech. While I can think of any number of things to dislike about Tesla, I have no tolerance for strike lawyers who sanctimoniously set themselves up as defenders of the injured innocent knowing full well that the bulk of any recovery will be dissipated on legal fees.
    8 Nov 2013, 07:28 AM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    John Stossel did an expose about a manufacturer of plastic gas cans. First, the cans had to be re-designed to slow spillage (which made them slow to pour). Then, people were pouring gas out of the containers onto burning fires (campfires, etc.) and, surprise, the gas can ignited and people got burned. So, in stepped the lawyers, sued the gas can manufacturer into oblivion. The gas can company shut down, unable to pay the law suites, and all employees out of work.
    8 Nov 2013, 08:29 AM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    "Then, people were pouring gas out of the containers onto burning fires (campfires, etc.) and, surprise, the gas can ignited and people got burned."

     

    Did the court also grant plaintiffs Darwin Awards?
    8 Nov 2013, 10:48 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    11/07/2013: EOD stuff partially copied from ablog (up already).
    OTC markets down 11/07 until ~15:00 resulting in an aberrant day!
    # Trds: 51, MinTrSz: 500, MaxTrSz: 50000, Vol: 369750, AvTrSz: 7250
    Min. Pr: 0.1210, Max Pr: 0.1300, VW Avg. Tr. Pr: 0.1251
    # Buys, Shares: 25 203950, VW Avg Buy Pr: 0.1260
    # Sells, Shares: 26 165800, VW Avg Sell Pr: 0.1239
    # Unkn, Shares: 0 0, VW Avg Unk. Pr: 0.0000
    Buy:Sell 1.23:1 (55.2% "buys"), DlyShts 74900 (20.26%), Dly Sht % of 'sells' 45.17%

     

    The OTC issues makes any commentary today a waste, IMO, so none today – just numbers.

     

    Some day-to-day VWAP changes, with the end date shown and the percentage change from the prior day. Buy percentage is the last value on each line.
    10/22 $0.1334 +02.74% 39.6%
    10/23 $0.1322 -00.72% 31.1%
    10/24 $0.1285 -02.80% 25.1%
    10/25 $0.1254 -02.37% 27.8%
    10/28 $0.1267 +01.00% 36.0%
    10/29 $0.1274 +00.54% 55.6%
    10/30 $0.1232 -03.25% 23.3%
    10/31 $0.1222 -00.84% 21.2%
    11/01 $0.1249 +02.20% 19.9%
    11/04 $0.1289 +03.25% 33.5%
    11/05 $0.1340 +03.94% 33.2%
    11/06 $0.1272 -05.07% 24.3%
    11/07 $0.1251 -01.68% 55.2%

     

    http://seekingalpha.co...

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 09:05 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Raymond James just put out a research note on CNG and LNG in trucking and rail. While I can't share a direct link because it's personalized for the guy who forwarded it to me, the conclusions are worth pasting:

     

    LNG for trucks: Decent economics, but no slam dunk. Compressed natural gas (CNG) and, to a lesser extent, liquefied natural gas (LNG) are already in widespread use among North American municipal bus agencies and waste hauling companies - that is to say, fleets that operate along fixed routes. Adoption of LNG by long-haul, heavy-duty trucks has been notably slower, partly because of limited availability of engines (though the rollout of Cummins Westport’s 12-liter model is helping address that this year), but also because the economics, while decent, are not as lucrative as they might seem at first glance. A key point to underscore is that LNG pricing is more expensive than CNG: typically $2.50-3.00/gal as compared to $1.50-2.00/gal. (One of the reasons for this premium is LNG’s higher margins. Clean Energy Fuels, for example, has indicated that it aims for margins of up to $0.80/gal for LNG, versus around $0.30/gal for CNG.) Thus, everything else being equal, the payback period for LNG is longer. And in thinking about LNG in absolute terms, there is no escaping the fact that the payback period is often on par with the asset life of the trucks. Since it is often the case that heavy-duty trucks operate only 3 to 4 years, a two-year payback period (our base case “guesstimate” - with only limited industry data thus far) means that LNG can be close to a “wash” as compared to conventional diesel. In other words, aside from the environmental benefits of natural gas - which offers PR benefits for consumer-facing companies such as UPS but is not especially relevant for trucking firms - LNG’s economic proposition is reasonable but rarely compelling. We would again underscore that this discussion pertains specifically to North America. By contrast, the Chinese market for LNG fuel is growing more rapidly, propelled by a far more proactive stance on the part of the government, which is intensely concerned by air pollution. For Chart Industries, for example, LNG-related orders from statecontrolled PetroChina have totaled $135 million this year alone.

     

    LNG for rail: Too early to judge. While not a “science experiment” by any means, the use of LNG by North American railroads is in its earliest phases, and there is simply not enough of a track record to truly assess the economics. (To clarify, we are referring to freight railroads. Amtrak’s major routes, just like European passenger railroads, are electrified.) In theory, the substitution of LNG for diesel in locomotives ought to be an appealing proposition, but we don’t envision mainstream adoption until 2015/16 at the earliest. In June, for example, Westport received an order from Canadian National for four LNG tenders, with deliveries starting in 4Q. Also this year, BNSF and Union Pacific started testing of LNG on a similarly small scale.
    8 Nov 2013, 10:03 AM Reply Like
  • tahoe1780
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    Confirmed http://bit.ly/195q6CT

     

    But http://onforb.es/195q9yB
    8 Nov 2013, 11:40 AM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Axion website has the following posted in large red print:

     

    ALERT: Due to technical difficulties at OTC Markets, all trading, including AXPW, on the OTCQB was halted on November 7, 2013. We hope that it will be restored by Friday morning, November 8, 2013.
    8 Nov 2013, 10:35 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Thanks Stefan. Must be trying to make sure investors were in tune when the stock started trading again so we don't hit any of those clauses. Don't want any ugly clause and effect.
    8 Nov 2013, 10:48 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    " clause and effect"

     

    LoL! You're on your game today!

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 12:35 PM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    The only clause I'm waiting for is the Santa Clause (Santa and trains go together).:-)
    8 Nov 2013, 01:46 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Stilldazed, And we'll take what we can get early as well! Nuttin like some green under the green. Or hard assets, .999 % pure!

     

    HTL, Back to that blind squirrel expression. Usually I'm the one that's caught on occasion.
    8 Nov 2013, 02:00 PM Reply Like
  • Al Marshall
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    In the first article it quoted the price of a new rig at $120k. Is that a correct number for a class 8b tractor? Thanks all.
    8 Nov 2013, 04:39 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    $120,000 for a new sleeper tractor with a conventional drivetrain is certainly in the ballpark. I typically think in terms of $125-$150K, but a lot of that has to do with options and goodies.
    8 Nov 2013, 05:36 PM Reply Like
  • alsobirdman
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    OK, while driving around Aruba this week, I saw something that I believe ends all the speculation about the expected sales PR. I've made the connection from Axion to small island sales of the Power Cube. I expect the announcement later today.

     

    First, in order to satisfy the whining by those who don't think sales are growing fast enough, the company has branched out into the auto parts business. Perfect lead-in to the stop/start business as well. Check out the linked photo.

     

    http://bit.ly/18dlkn7\

     

    Then, I saw a small wind farm on the north shore. See? it all makes sense now. Make a few dollars to keep the lights on by selling car parts while getting a toe-hold into the local economy.
    8 Nov 2013, 11:29 AM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    Comments (1455) | Send Message
     
    alsobirdman,

     

    Can't access your link...
    8 Nov 2013, 11:42 AM Reply Like
  • Stefan Moroney
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    Comments (2483) | Send Message
     
    ABM -

     

    Your link doesn't work.
    8 Nov 2013, 11:42 AM Reply Like
  • greentongue
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    Nothing personal but we treat these announcements like Iranian nuclear promises. Verify, verify, verify.
    8 Nov 2013, 12:14 PM Reply Like
  • alsobirdman
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    Hmm. I've used it twice and worked OK. It's to my dropbox account. Not sure what I might have done wrong. Here it is again.

     

    http://bit.ly/18dlkn7
    8 Nov 2013, 12:16 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Alsobirdman, Your dropbox is secure meaning we are locked out.

     

    Edit: This is the message I get.

     

    "Error (403)

     

    It seems you don't belong here! You should probably sign in. Check out our Help Center and forums for help, or head back to home."
    8 Nov 2013, 12:21 PM Reply Like
  • Poul Brandt
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    Comments (271) | Send Message
     
    Error (403)
    It seems you don't belong here! You should probably sign in. Check out our Help Center and forums for help, or head back to home.
    8 Nov 2013, 12:31 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Alsobirdman is having some fun with us. The picture he sent me earlier in the week is here:

     

    http://bit.ly/1bdS7Ns

     

    I double checked the link and it does work.
    8 Nov 2013, 12:35 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Alsobirdman: For dropbox you've got to click the share or link (I forget which) button which either opens a new tab you can C & P the link from or right-click and copy link location (I'm unsure of this one).

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 12:38 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Thanks John. I figured we were getting a leg pulling.

     

    All good while we're waiting for.

     

    http://bit.ly/1bdTGe2
    8 Nov 2013, 12:44 PM Reply Like
  • alsobirdman
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    Thanks for making the pic available, John. I make my living as an IT consultant but can't figure out simple things like sharing a picture.
    8 Nov 2013, 01:29 PM Reply Like
  • Masi
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    That DropBox page wants you to sign in and then you have to download a program. I didn't.
    8 Nov 2013, 12:54 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Masi: He just forget to click on share or whatever it is to get the proper link ... I think.

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 12:57 PM Reply Like
  • Valleywood
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    Boyz,

     

    I can't trust youz guyz to do nuthin' !

     

    All day long yesterday youz guyz whined cuz' you cudn't lose money fast enuff. I check in and the loozing stops.

     

    Last night I watched the first half of the game and the Redskins were clearly ahead and in firm command. I went to bed 'cuz I was feelin' puny and what happenz? Youz guyz let the infidelz frum Minnesconsin win the game.

     

    Woke up this morning feelin' like last month's poached egg, went back to bed, and here I am checking in and I'm looozin' moneyz a'gin.

     

    I can't trust youz guyz to do nuthin' right ! NUTHIN ! ! !

     

    What a dreadful grooop of frendz youz guyz turned owt to be. I'm gowin' back to my sick bed. Sheesh !
    8 Nov 2013, 12:58 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    To help you feel better soon.

     

    http://bit.ly/195CF0T
    8 Nov 2013, 01:04 PM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    Hope you feel better....but to write like this, you caint be a ailin' much!
    8 Nov 2013, 01:04 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Raleigh: he's not ill - just being the raconteur I first labeled him as being!

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 01:08 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >H.T.Love ... It's comforting to see that today all is right with the world. The Market is up on light volume for rather dubious reasons, Axion's stock is down on somewhat heavy volume (but I don't think volume matters) and I was wrong again because Axion makes no "substantial" announcement and remains silent.
    8 Nov 2013, 01:26 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    VW, Hope you're back on you toes soon.

     

    BTW, Sorry about the outcome of the game. You know those Peterson's and Petersen's. Real rabble-rouser's! You didn't expect Adrian to play nice did you? ;-))
    8 Nov 2013, 01:30 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    DRich: Well, all's right with (CPST). +12.5% today.

     

    I added some lunch money blocks yesterday at $1.21.

     

    :-))

     

    As to the rest of the markets - they're just ignoring the fact that the jobs numbers will be revised downward next month.

     

    maybe ...

     

    Axion is behaving as it's supposed to right now. Now way to avoid it AFAICT.

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 01:53 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    One possible past time for Axionista's that just can't take watching the paint dry any more. Like clockwork? No, no, not A Clockwork Orange.

     

    Clockwork - K'nex Ball Machine

     

    http://bit.ly/1bemT8S
    8 Nov 2013, 03:25 PM Reply Like
  • Amouna
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    This is gonna be probably TG's most sleepless week end in 10 years, at the prospect of having to face the rage of Axionistas next week, or a deluge of share dumping if he fails on his "word".
    8 Nov 2013, 03:43 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    The CCs have been tame in the past despite a 90% pps fail over past 3+ years. Axionista rage is usually left on this board and has yet to come out on a call. I doubt that pattern changes but I do expect some aggressive keyboard "strokes".
    9 Nov 2013, 05:43 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Comments (8759) | Send Message
     
    What did someone just do buy a big block at the market?
    8 Nov 2013, 03:46 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Amouna ... Methinks you overrate our importance. Share count, share price, share volume makes no matter until sometime in summer of 2014. Axion has operations cash on-hand. Besides, I can think of several events that probably were more stressful to everyone and mattered more to the forward existence the company than making a correct call on a sale.
    8 Nov 2013, 03:54 PM Reply Like
  • raleigh731
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    DR,

     

    I agree. I think it would be a huge mistake to sell no matter what happens in the cc. Like I've said before, having been in sales and sales situations, they happen when they happen....sometimes a week later, sometimes not at all. Years ago, I sold a house with no agent. The person who bought it gave me ernest money and the contract allowed me to keep the money if the sale didn't go through. The NIGHT before the closing, the person buying my house came to me and told me that God had told him not to buy the house in a dream! Sale didn't happen. Sometimes sure things aren't sure things, even if they seem to be. I still believe the advantages of Axion will come through SOONER rather than later. Case in point, NSC training in ATL.. I know it's not a fact....yet. But a rumor from a trusted source.....
    8 Nov 2013, 09:43 PM Reply Like
  • thotdoc
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    I agree.
    9 Nov 2013, 12:20 PM Reply Like
  • jveal
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    Conference call Nov 15.

     

    http://yhoo.it/17SKX0e
    8 Nov 2013, 04:46 PM Reply Like
  • pascquale
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    I usually get emails of releases like this but haven't on this one yet. Anybody else get emailed about CC?
    Thanks
    8 Nov 2013, 09:57 PM Reply Like
  • jveal
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    Comments (652) | Send Message
     
    I got an e-mail from Axion shortly after I found the article on Yahoo.
    8 Nov 2013, 10:11 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Pascquale: Got my e-mail at 5:03 P.M. 11/08.

     

    HardToLove
    9 Nov 2013, 08:03 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Well, unless TG inks something large in the next week, we can reduce the range of speculation of "significant" orders that may be inked to a non-material amount. If I recall correctly, above a certain percentage of prior year's revenue they would need to announce expeditiously.

     

    Of course that still leaves orders being pursued but not yet completed in the hopper that may be of "material" size that could be discussed.

     

    HardToLove
    8 Nov 2013, 05:08 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >H.T.Love ... It may be a bit harsh on my part, but what hasn't happened or what could possibly, just not yet, is of no interest or importance. It doesn't have to huge but enough to see if the production line can operate over several contiguous days. In lieu of production, I'd accept a signed agreement of almost any kind with a production partnership being my favorite candidate. I want to hear that Axion has managed to actually transact business.
    8 Nov 2013, 05:41 PM Reply Like
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    Almost 2 years and Vani's department has not yet landed any sales Axion can talk about. ( I don't consider ePower to be sales as a result of his efforts. ) Not exactly noteworthy for a bonus.

     

    I see and understand your point concerning being able to flex the process. Been there many times. You'll always find more things once your equipment has to perform for weeks not hours.

     

    I'm hoping not to feel like I've been strung along yet again.
    8 Nov 2013, 06:02 PM Reply Like