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Some great technical information on this concentrator.
It does astound me how we keep trying to put a size 10 foot into a size 8 shoe, with the L-ion evangelical movement and EV's. The chemistry works well enough, but clearly not for this particular application.
I have always had a belief that May 2012 is when things would ramp up, and looking at the trading volume recently, one would have to believe that the big sellers are fading away (hopefully) and now if we can get the news we have all been waiting for, then an upward march seems the only logical place to go !
I like the fact that bloggers put their opinions out there for discussion, and wanted to do so myself, with regards to timelines and forecasting, so here goes nothing !
May 15 0.72c June 30 $1.22 Sept 30 $1.44 Dec 30 $1.88
Welcome Johnny, noting that your current profile (http://bit.ly/JF8CW2) states, "Jack ass investor...specialising in losing stock portfolios." What really stands out is the "s" in specialising which suggests you're not American. Its always nice to have international diversity EIITCSJAA.
Gosh rambo, you must have an MBA! Those folks always throw out amazing graphs that project amazing growth rates with a beautiful hockey stick ending!
It wasn't so long ago that I took assumed long-term growth rates for a major manufacturing company (that looked really good for the 5 year planning cycle) and found that they intended to eat up the entire US GDP within 25 years.
The DOD will be holding a summit on Renewable Energy Micro Grid May 31-June 1.
The DOD's goal of deploying 3 gigawatts (GW) of renewable energy by 2025 is one of the largest commitments to clean energy in history. From the Air Force's recently announced project to install over $1B of distributed solar on bases and installations across the country, to the Army's new Energy Initiatives Task Force (EITF) program that plans to issue PPAs in 2012 for 2GW of power, the services are moving smartly ahead with their plans to spur the development and installation of renewable energy ranging from utility-scale projects to rooftop solar for base housing. New programs are quickly springing up to purchase renewable power for installations -- programs that will require tens of billions of dollars in private investment and finance.
:-) Must be part of the Administration's game plan for reducing the defense budget. Besides, government purchases are more direct and administratively efficient than cajoling private firms to pony up scarce capital to accompany subsidy payouts from government.
Anyone think Norfolk will mention how their spending is going for locomotives tonight during their Q1 earnings announcement? $242 million budgeted for the year, so maybe they will say where some of it's going or went in Q1.
If one reads all pertinent discussion on NS/Axion , and testing has gone very well, one would have to make an educated guess that 10-15% of that budgeted figure should go Axion's way ?
I noticed the bid was thru UBS as mkt-maker. Are you two foreigners by any chance? I think I recall bids thru UBS when a European member of the Axionistas was buying.
Jeez, how many shares do the AUTO guys have to sell?
At least it looks like Quercus is about 50k shares lighter between yesterday and today. Where are they now with their 850k allotment? 200k-250k left? That would mean they'll be done with this round in a couple weeks, at current rates. Maybe just before the conf call.
Can we be sure Quercus was in yesterday? We didn't see the usual AH trade. But today ...
Got an AH trade of 19K @ $0.427, so Quercus was likely selling to the market-maker again this evening. 212K - 19K = 203, so they apparently gave a tad less than 10% (since volume was high in the last four minutes they likely didn't take time to recalculate) to the market-maker tonight for release tomorrow.
The WV average intra-day trade price today was 0.4288, so this AH price fits the pattern too.
The buy:sell has swung back in our favor at 1.12:1 and we had 30 trades that met or came near the ask vs. 16 that met or came near the bid.
Pretty cool in that f-kru explained most of today's action. Oh, and a guy on brand X posted today that he bought 40k at 43 cents. Not sure that was partly or all or not at all today, but it sounded like at least partially today. A rare day indeed when we get that much hard info.
And last one is just the, the last in environment has been pretty challenging in China in particular. I was just – want to get a sense from you what kind of headwinds do you face from a sales perspective just given the cheap lead acid batteries that are kind of out there at the moment given the subdue demand?
Doug Milner
Well yes certainly there is price pressure and you’re correct in pointing that out. We’ve seen I would say some elevated pricing pressure or lower prices from our competition but more simply in China. But really the distinction is I mean the customers that buy our solution buy it for a very specific reason. And it doesn’t matter how expensive or inexpensive lead acid batteries are – that reason is tough to beat in that space efficiency and power efficiency.
So yes we have seen it we have had to address it, we’re taking a number of actions to reduce our landed cost and ultimately our delivered cost in China for the long term. But our customer buy Active Power solutions for a specific reason and I don’t think that we’re really subject to the same competitive pressure necessarily then the lead acid providers are subjecting each other to right now.
>wtb - I found that Q&A rather interesting as well. Milner's response left me wondering if he realized the distinct differences between PbC and LA batteries. If I understand the PbC characteristic correctly, it is as practically as good if not as good as a flywheel in response time for power delivery and would definitely be capable of supplying that power for a longer period than a flywheel. Space wise, the AXPW solutions may have an advantage, but I'm not sure that is the case.
I believe the flywheels have an advantage in both space and speed, but their primary market is a pretty extreme performance demand that would be way out to the left on a standard bell-shaped curve. The thing I like best about the PbC is that it provides great performance for the big majority of users who have more mundane needs that fall toward the middle of the curve. It doesn't need to be all things to all people.
I noticed the 0-60 time for the Mitsubishi Miev was13.4 Seconds. Reminded me of the Yugo. Googled Yugo 0-60 time and it was 14 seconds. Bet freeway merges are white-knuckle affairs.
Ha. We drag racers also consider factors like weight in the equation, and as anyone knows, Yugos were prone to shed major body components as they accelerated. Lose a few fenders, doors, or exhaust pipes, and they would tend to pick up speed (until a wheel fell off, now that would alter the curve)...
NS earnings and conference call today (Tuesday) after the bell.
Haven't listened to the call yet, but quick (so I might have missed it) scan of slides did NOT reveal a pic of NS 999 this time ... though the capital budget was not a point of emphasis this time (Deb H. Butler, EVP Planning and CIO presented in January)
1. MATERIALS AND OTHER During the first quarter of 2011, NS received an unfavorable ruling for an arbitration claim with an insurance carrier, and was denied recovery of the contested portion ($43 million) of the claim. As a result, NS recorded a $43 million charge for the receivables associated with the contested portion of the claim and a $15 million charge for other receivables affected by the ruling for which recovery was no longer probable.
Here's some interesting hybrid car history I just ran across. The 1916 Owen Magnetic hybrid car sported an electromagnetic transmission invented by an electrical engineer who had worked with Thomas Edison.
It's fascinating to read that the electric brakes recovered energy from braking for charging the battery (sound familiar?) The company failed in 1922 but Jay Leno owns one of the 700 made, which still carries a placard warning operators to take the vehicle to the factory if you need repairs!
I wrote the following in the last concentrator after the new one was out so I'll repaste it here:
A company by the name of "New Souce Energy Group, INC" has an IPO scheduled for May 8th, with expected pricing in the 10 to 12 dollar range (offering 9.1 million shares).
Is this on anyone's radar or know anything about this co.... or is this another poor IPO?
Is this the same one with a checkered past? This is from a 10 Q filed last year:
"New Source Energy Group, Inc. (referred to herein as "New Source" or the "Company", and formerly known as "Ametrine Capital, Inc.") has been essentially inactive since its formation. Until November 19, 2010 the Company was regulated as a BDC under the Investment Company Act of 1940. However, the Company was not able to raise sufficient capital to execute upon its original business plan.
On November 30, 2010 the Company's largest stockholder sold its entire interest in the Company (being approximately 92% of the Company's issued and outstanding shares."
Then it did a reverse split ... then it tried to pursue oil and gas acquisitions .. then it was inactive ... etc. http://bit.ly/IaFBTq?storyid={c751fe14-5f4...
Now it still claims to be an oil and gas exploration and production company: http://bit.ly/K9sNGS
The big problems with numbers like those are (1) you have no idea what they include in the total, and (2) the gross numbers are never tied back to the amount of useful energy generated by the subsidized.
A fascinating analysis of US subsidies appeared in Motley Fool last January that showed on a useful energy basis, US hydrocarbon subsidies were on the order of $0.35 per barrel of oil equivalent while the alternative energy subsidies were closer to $35 per barrel of oil equivalent.
They have almost two months to sell 276k. If axion continues to trade an average of ~200k/day resulting in them selling ~20K/day (10%) they will be out in a few weeks for this 90 day period which began on March 15th.
JP says they can file an amended 144 form to sell more shares during this 90 day period but they didn't last period, but things might be different this round if the price climbs...no way to know.
The important thing to remember is that it Quercus doesn't matter. They are not driving down the price. They are merely accepting the price 90% are accepting.
I still keep wondering where the other 90% is coming from. I suspect it is a very small block of short term traders that keep jumping in and out. Its only a few cents but the % gain ( or loss) isn't bad.
Form filings certainly don't indicate any "insider" trades one way or the other.
It's important to remember the double count. On a 200,000 share volume day, 100,000 of the reported volume was shares leaving the hands of selling stockholders like Q and 100,000 of the reported volume was shares entering the hands of investors like U.
Unusual start to the day--pre-mkt offer stayed at 49 cents until right before the mkt open. Now it's still high, at just under 45. Figured there was perhaps a large buy order somewhere. Then 50k at 42.1 cents appeared. For anyone that can see the depth, is there also a large order under one of the best bids?
It's a nice piece of work, but I am puzzled that they spend so much time on the 2010 financial statements instead of the 2012 statements and subsequent events.
OT - about 50 APC's ago, I mentioned a company called Cytomedix. I was planning on writing an SA article on it now that its over a dollar, but this writer beat me to it and did a fine job.
This shows just how good and what an impact this concentrator has on AXPW and how it even helps with their sales and ideas. This is powerful. Keep up the good work and thanks to all here. It is working.
Follow up to JP's last post on concentrator 89 where he stated "I got a call from Mario at Rosewater" who had seen Pztricks chart and wanted to make one like it for presentations done by Rosewater.
I prepared a more detailed quarterly model for Mario and have uploaded a copy to my DropBox for anybody who wants to play with it. The color highlighted cells are all user selected variables. The rest calculates automatically. It's a cool little tool for somebody who wants to test alternative use and fuel cost scenarios.
I didn't think the crew was working hard enough so I added 5 days to their schedule. It moved our positive cash flow up a quarter. Now I need to calculate overtime <smile>...
Nice spreadsheet JP. Break-even on the project, with the hurdle rate in the spreadsheet is ~$2.00 gallon for fuel. Of course, savings regarding the generators themselves will only lower this break-even price further.
One issue with the spreadsheet relates to cash flow. I wonder what payment terms will be for power cube. This assumes Axion and Rosewater are giving terms (30-60 days?). When you consider all the variable costs Axion will experience producing a power cube, cash will definitely become an issue, particularly for those applications where an inverter is required.
My apology for making up numbers, but if the time from ordering parts to receiving revenue for a power cube is 5 months, and the average cost is $400k, that would be about $2m in cash in the scenario of 1 power cube order per month.
JP, at what point would you think that Axion might be able to establish a line of credit with a bank? Could that be a leading indicator or would it only be possible after orders are made public?
No reason to give 30-60 day terms. First off, no one in their right mind offers over 30 day terms. Secondly, it is going to take an earnest money down payment - probably 25% at least, or maybe a third. Second payment on delivery , final payment perhaps 30 days later.
If I were selling it the terms would be 50% down, 50% on delivery. Let the guy buying it worry about financing. Axion can't afford to play banker.
In a normal scenario I'd expect a company to put a revolving credit facility in place for the inventory, build and carry cost of PowerCube sales. Once again, however, Axion may not fit the *normal* mode because the flooded battery contract and the inventory, receivable and payable accounts associated with that relationship would make a revolver difficult to put together to a banker's satisfaction.
All things being equal I think Axion is likely to be pretty tight with terms for the next couple years and shoot for half down and half on delivery.
mag, so true and you can add me to that list. Thankfully, I got better deals on her shares than I did on mine. So when she asks, all that I have to say is "green" (and her shares have been green for quite awhile).
Schedule 14-A is out...Shareholder meeting set for June 21,2012 I will be attending, PM me if anyone wants to coordinate.
The Axion Power International, Inc. Annual Meeting of Stockholders (the “Annual Meeting”) will be held on June 21, 2012, at New Castle Country Club, 511 Country Club Drive, New Castle, PA 16105 at 10:00 AM. The principal business of the meeting will be:
1. To elect a director to serve until the expiration of his three year term and thereafter until his successor has been duly elected and qualified; 2. To ratify the selection of EFP Rotenberg, LLP, as the Company’s independent registered public accounting firm for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2012; and 3. To transact such other business as may be properly brought before the Annual Meeting and any adjournment or postponement thereof.
Somebody asked about the possibility of a reverse split on the CC and Tom said he didn't think one likely. If the company was going to propose a reverse split it would have been in the definitive proxy statement because that's where those things are done.
Once again the opinion of management is clear – "We don't need no stinking reverse split."
The new director proposed is D. Walker Wainwright:
D. Walker Wainwright, 61, is an independent director who was appointed to our board of directors in January 2007. He is the former Chairman of Interboro Insurance Company, a provider of personal lines insurance products in New York State. He is also the founder and chief executive of Wainwright & Co. LLC, an independent financial advisory firm and investment manager. The Firm’s activities include the identification and assessment of alternative investments, the monitoring of these investments and the creation of proprietary portfolios. In this respect, the firm works with investment management firms, not-for-profit organizations and family offices as an independent consultant to create client-specific solutions. Wainwright & Co. also researches and reviews private investments, including private equity funds, to assist in determining their suitability for specific accounts or portfolios. Formerly a Managing Director in investment banking at Smith Barney, Inc. and at Kidder, Peabody & Co., Mr. Wainwright has over 35 years’ consulting, banking and investment banking experience. Having directed Kidder’s investment banking efforts in the Asia Pacific Region, he has extensive international experience and has lived in Australia and Lebanon. Mr. Wainwright began his career at Chemical Bank and, subsequently, the Schroder Group. He is a graduate of Stanford University (A.B. – 1972) and of Columbia University (M.B.A. – 1976). The Company has determined that Mr. Wainwright should serve as a director due to his long term finance and banking experience.
Walker Wainright is standing for re-election but Glenn Patterson isn't. So it looks like they're not going to fill the Anthony slot or the Patterson slot, which will go a long way toward streamlining the board.
This will be an intriguing conference. Perhaps the first in history where an gang of investors meet in the cyberworld, and then later meet in person at a conference. A quasi-flash mob.
Truly amazing. Like bangwhiz writes in his Google webpage: "We've got the power!"
Interesting ownership update--as of April 10, 2012: Manatuck Hill and Blackrock holdings are unchanged (nice to see no selling), but Quercus' is only approx. 1.673 million shares. So it looks like their own Form 4 filings are even more inaccurate than we thought? Taking their filed sells thru 4/20/2012 and adding 10% of daily volume since would leave 1.464 million shares. Don't think it changes their 850k allotment calc's, though.
Anyone have time to run the numbers more thoroughly? Thanks.
To fill in the back story a bit, Walker Wainright has been a director since January 2007 when I stepped down from the board to make room for him as a director. He's got good credentials, a solid background and was a big help on a financing we did in late 2006.
Continuing with stock ownership changes--some of which may be old and perhaps very old news: Filipenko and Buiel are totally out (1.913 million shares total); Patterson is about 100k lighter. So if he's leaving as a Director, will he sell shares? He's got 2.6 million, so it's no small matter, at least until the stock makes a run up on big volume ;^).
Nice to see a couple of guys have a few more shares, including Wainwright.
Thanks for the correction, had only a few seconds to write my two posts. Should have waited. "Measure once quickly, then cut wherever the heck you want" is not how it's supposed to go. And I suppose the Man. Hill and Blackrock numbers might not necessarily be the actuals at 4/10/12, if the company is relying on the same public records we are.
Wasn't looking to anyone to point... just looking for someone to count those willing to admit what they have. APH? TM9? JAK? TE? MS? (okay, one of those was a joke)
Was trying to search and couldn't figure out who did it before. Confirmed it was Futurist once you reminded me what to search for in my e-mail. If Futurist is up for it again, maybe we could update numbers sometime before the annual meeting?
Futurist's tally is repeated at the beginning of Concentrator 37 from Concentrator 36. http://seekingalpha.co... A few comments down JP estimates 32 million shares owned by the axionistas. I was one who reported his shares at the time. I have nearly doubled my shares since then. I suspect many of you added at the end of the year like I did. If JP's earlier estimate is correct we could easily control 50 Million shares now.
I don't know that electing a director from this group would be helpful. I believe JP warned us that as soon as someone was elected, they would not be able divulge any insider info.
Former directors and executive officers are dropped from proxy tables unless they own more than 5% of a company's stock. I'd be very surprised to learn that either Igor or Ed have sold. Glenn Patterson sold 62,000 shares in February and March of 2011, but hasn't sold anything since then. Pages 37 through 41 of the Form 10-K lay out detailed information on all stock sales by Axion since inception. Given the prices the old guard paid, believing any of us will sell voluntarily at these levels is unreasonable.
I guess the flipper's philosophy is buy at a discount and unload as quick as possible for whatever gain the market gives you and then move on to the next flip opportunity. Beats bond and CD rates I suppose if successful.
We're building a solid base between .40 and .44 at least. So I guess the next avalanche of selling will be around .60-.63.
It appeared there were some larger blocks traded today. I expect Quercus & this action to keep us range bound until news pushes it up and it actually breaks out....there are more shares out now and some of them will get sold on rallies.
.42 appears to be holding fairly well....but .44 gets sell orders flying. Even with that, it still wants to try to go higher, so it won't take much.
Maybe we could nominate one of the smarter Axionista's as a director. Be interesting to see how many votes we could get even though we would probably lose. Maybe it would turn out like the movie "The Mouse that Roared!"
Surely you jest, but having read through the whole 14F, I noticed that a nomination from the shareholders has to be submitted by May 31, next year. This year is out.
As for being smart, I think we'll all feel a lot smarter when Axion hits $2.00.
"Axion Power Receives Initial Norfolk Southern Order for PbC® Batteries"
"Axion Power said this first $400,000 purchase order is part of a $475,000 total purchase order, that will be used in the commissioning of Norfolk Southern's NS-999. The total purchase order will be shipped and deployed in the next 90 – 120 days. To date, this is the largest single PbC battery order that Axion has received. No further details were disclosed."
"TG wasn't taking much risk in projecting the revenue growth was he?"
You read my thoughts.... I can't imagine it getting punished on this news... to me this is what I have been waiting for. This is a real Purchase order from a major company with potential for much future business. Not another "test". I can't imagine the batteries failing after all the testing, and as JP states "the embarrassment" of the first failure. Can't wait to see them installed and the NS 999 at work.
Maybe this is the beginning of the "market acceptance" I have been waiting for.
No mention of a BMS included in the 400 or 475k, so this is all for batteries? On Jan 25th D-Inv suggested $250-$300/battery $475k/1080 = $439 each. That seems a lot, even if that $75k extra is some kind of service aspect: 400,000/1080 = $370 Does this mean a better margin, or higher than expected costs, or where is the calculation to be modified?
"shipped and deployed in the next 90 – 120" does "deployed" mean installed? It seems an odd word to include unless it has some meaning. But if 90 days, or even most of it, is the delivery period it's not exactly a high production rate (<20 batteries / day or so!). I can't believe that production is running so high that they can't process this order in less than a month, or if they're not producing much then obviously it can all be done in a week.
I interpert "deployed" as meaning it's out of the testing phase. From another link, "... a $475,000 total purchase order, that will be used in the commissioning of Norfolk Southern's NS-999”. Commissioning means it's going to be earning its' keep. I really want a model of the NS-999 on my desk. It's the first of the many.
DaveT > "No mention of a BMS included in the 400 or 475k, so this is all for batteries? On Jan 25th D-Inv suggested $250-$300/battery $475k/1080 = $439 each."
Could be your on the right track (pun intended) with the NS purchase order, Dave. On the other hand, it might be worthwhile to consider the 1,080 battery count from the original NS999 as a low ball estimate of PbC battery count needed for the same energy reserve.
Assuming the top line AGM batteries installed in the original NS999 had an energy density of 35 kW/lb and PbC has 25 kW/lb one might surmise that a PbC equipped NS999 would take 1.4x more batteries for comparable energy reserve. 1.4 X 1080 = 1,512; 475k/1.512k = $314 per battery.
DaveT: I suspect the delay is to meet customer scheduling requirements, not production capacity restraints. Large projects, which this certainly must be considering the work (NSC) will have to do, often get components scheduled in near the time of use.
(CPST) micro-turbines are a good example of this where the typical lead-time from order to use is 12-18 months to allow for what the customer must do.
In the cases where the customer is ready now, the units ship in a much shorter time-frame.
It's entirely possible that per unit pricing today with one electrode line running is higher than it will be with 10 lines running. Suppliers treat you very differently when you're ordering smaller volumes than they do with bigger volumes and overhead per unit in a low volume operation is always higher than it would be with high volume. I'd also expect that NS would want to keep a spare parts inventory of batteries sitting in a nearby shed to quickly replace any that do fail. The final variable is profit margin. Knowing TG I expect he'd be very reluctant to sell batteries at a loss to NS or anybody else.
I'm reluctant to draw too many conclusions without a lot more detail.
>Tim E, thanks for that info. That larger size could well explain the need (reported earlier) for new battery rack installation in the NS999. And, the larger 30HT batteries undoubtedly cost a bit more than standard AGM size batteries.
Good Morning AXIONISTAS: Very good news, good news. There is another that I also like:
...We have been moving on a parallel development path with respect to supplying batteries for the first NS 'over the road' locomotive. This larger, more powerful, unit will require approximately twice the number of batteries as those to be shipped for the yard 'switcher' locomotive. High-performance PbC batteries are ideally suited for hybrid locomotive applications due to their high charge acceptance, fast charge and discharge capabilities (important in regenerative braking), and their inherent ability to equalize voltage when utilized in large string configurations."
I would expect another order for the "over the road" loco in either the 4th quarter or 1st qtr. of 2013 after the 999 is fitted.
We have been moving on a parallel development path with respect to supplying batteries for the first NS 'over the road' locomotive. This larger, more powerful, unit will require approximately twice the number of batteries as those to be shipped for the yard 'switcher' locomotive.
This news makes my mouth water. I hope the price action for the stock is going to be good but the important thing for me is that FINALLY a big company has committed to buying the PbC! That will really put Axion on the map! ***VICTORY***!!!
Proof positive of feasibility. If the business case for PbC passes muster with Norfolk Southern and all their analysts and engineers, this is only the beginning.
Very good news for Axion. And, verifies our trust in TG. Here's to trusting him to deliver 300% rev growth in '12 and '13. Cheers
That was good news to read after waking up from nap. Congratulations to all Axion employees and management, as well as the Axionistas. We've been waiting a long time for this. Let's hope that this good news goes unpunished. This should give Axion a good position on which to hang its hat to use with future sales - especially in light of all the testing that was done on the battery to go into this sale. To celebrate, I gave everyone a "like" who has commented on the sale.
TG's favorite PR lines and the unspoken translation
"We anticipate a long and mutually beneficial partnership ( with NS) as they move forward with their hybrid locomotive strategy."
translation: When I said 300% per year growth I was serious. This order plus the OTR loco order later this year will total 1.5 Million in PbC sales alone.
"Of course PbC batteries are also very stable and safe..."
translation: Hey Lithium.(with thumb on nose and fingers wiggling) Na na na na naaa
"PbC batteries operate safely at all temperatures; are 100% recyclable; and are priced substantially below the cost of some of the more highly publicized exotic battery chemistries.
translation. Hey, Battery users. If you want something cheap that really works give Axion Power International a call.
Haha Futurist - I had the same exact reaction to reading the "stable and safe" comment. It was a deliberate plug against certain explosions in the news lately (Warren, Mich. factory, etc).
Can anyone explain why the price hasn't shot up?... It actually went up more when we sold 40 batteries for testing! Ok, I'll be patient and wait a few hours :o)
This is a very nice first step. The OTR unit later this year will be a great second step. The fascinating question is what percentage of their 3,666 multi-purpose, 123 switching and 116 auxiliary locomotives will be converted to electric drive if the first two perform as expected.
What capacity and capital budget will NS allocate to this, and how much will they reveal publicly? It was interesting that this PR came out the same week as the NS quarterly report.
How far in advance will NS commit? How long will the OTR unit has to be in service for them to commit to major battery deliveries?
Dreaming of "steady/predictable" AXPW income between NS and the flooded battery contracts ... just for starters!
But I don't think the stock price will really move till we get some of these answers.
The funny thing about battery testing is you can learn more in the laboratory than you can in a vehicle because you can make the test conditions so much more demanding. That's the big reason the darned tests take so bloody long. Think about it, NS has been doing double redundant testing for 2-1/2 years. Frankly the first purchase order pales in comparison to the engineering and testing costs they've incurred over the last couple years.
Hopefully Tom will be able to put some color on their expectations for likely follow on orders in the next conference call. Any way you slice it, it will take a lot more good news to make a dent in the NS fleet of 4,000 locomotives, or the 20,000 units owned by CSX, UP and BNSF.
Norfolk Southern wants to reduce its CO2 emissions by 6% over the next four years. The only way to do that is reduce its fuel use by 6% over the next four years.
>wtblanchard ... Now, at $400k per engine and NS has 1576 (1836(?)) in-service switcher locos, I'm guessing that over the next 5 years about 150/yr will become electric (or Green Goat hybrid) or about $63M/yr to Axion from a single road. Multiply that by 5 and this should be rail revenue for the next 7-8 years starting next year or the year after and remain in the $100M range forever.
Then there is the rest of the world. What kind of share price will that be going forward? I don't know & I could be low. Onward toward marine applications in about 5 years. Just need to find an application to pick up the slack between now & then.
Since NS spent $1.6 billion on fuel in 2011, a 6% reduction would be just a hair shy of $100 million, or $96 million to be precise. I'm working to wrap my arms around the annual fuel savings per dollar of battery investment right now so I'll let the second part of your question slide for a couple days.
baz > "John, What does a 6 percent reduction in fuel cost mean in NS dollars? And how many PBCs would be involved even if they are only half of the solution? "
Your question piqued enough interest to prompt a Yahoo search on "Norfolk Southern fuel use" which returned http://tinyurl.com/7tl... among other links. From that link, we have < Compared with 2009, we reduced our greenhouse gas emissions by 3.9 percent per revenue ton-mile of freight in 2010. We achieved nearly 40 percent of our goal to reduce emissions by 10 percent per revenue ton-mile between 2009 and 2014.
We improved the fuel efficiency of our locomotive fleet by 2.2 percent over 2009. That resulted in diesel fuel savings equivalent to 10.2 million gallons and reduced emissions of 104,924 metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents. < 2.2 percent savings amounting to 10.2 million gallons indicates fuel use of 463.64 million gallons (11.04 million barrels) in 2009 and 453.44 million gallons (10.8 million barrels) in 2010. A further reduction of 36.2 million gallons (.862 million barrels) is needed to meet the original goal of 10% reduction from 2009 consumption by 2014. With 2014 a mere 20 months away, the clock is ticking on the NS game plan
It would really be interesting to see a breakdown of NS fuel consumption by 'over-the-road' and 'switcher' locomotives and to get a read on fuel use reduction realized in 2011.
Many positive reactions to the news.... I would like to add a couple of unwritten points:
1. The new showing on MarketWatch shows a much better and coordinated release...Maybe Vani ?
2.Deployed in 90-120 days I think means installed....they can deliver the batteries quicker, may already have them. It will take a while to retro-fit the 999. That's why I say they get it running first, and then start the OTR model next year.
3. This gives me much more confidence in what TG says, especially about revenue and break even in '13. It makes you think that barring a global disaster that he already has it in his pocket.
4. No matter what the stock price does today, this makes me very, very excited about the future.
A golden cross is a confirmed breakout signal determined by long and short term moving averages.
Investopedia defines a "golden cross" as crossover involving a security's short-term moving average (such as 15-day moving average) breaking above its long-term moving average (such as 50-day moving average) or resistance level.
A definition I like best has the 10-day VWMA move up through the 200-day VWMA and the 50-day VWMA turn up.
If you look at my graph in the header the golden cross is the point in February 2011 when all three short term averages moved up through the 200-day average and marked the start of a serious run. In 2011, there were three *problem* shareholders that owned a total of 25 million shares they wanted to sell. When they piled into the market they crushed the run. This time around I can't see a similar dynamic because the *problem* holders are either out of stock, or darned close.
Great job, Axion. Love the word, "Initial" in the headline. They probably discussed that with NS for a week--"how do we make the headline say more is coming, without saying too much?"
Premkt pricing finally starting to move above yesterday's close.
Wow, what a relieve. This is huge! Now let's see if history repeats itself as we're leaving the right hand side circle in jakurtz' picture. This will be tremendoulsly helpful to pave the way for Vani and Rosewater of future sales.
Stock Price: To anyone following this stock this announcement isn't news. Its confirmation of what the EPA held up last year. It does however take away any gnawing concerns that maybe it was the PbC product cvausing issues, and not NS or the EPA.
Normally expected news is already built into the price.
Yet most of us feel that the price has yet to reflect the 300% revenue increase for the next two years. If this bit of news is a confirmation of that, then Axion will have a minimum of $90 million in revenue for 2013 FY. The present value of a breakeven company with disruptive technology? The old $1.25 per share base should be back, very soon.
I agree, and we had 200,000 shares sold at the bid just now...this is to be expected. HTL may also tell you there will be a gap to fill as a result of this morning.
Confirmation of another good sale should validate the break even and the growth rate. Then I do think we see your $1.25
Wow - DRich's Customer No. 1 has arrived. DRich bought Axion over 4 years ago because he felt the PbC was the battery the railroads had been looking for over the past 75 years. Congrats DRich. Our railroad buff Axionista hit the nail square on the head four years ago!
The exciting thing to me, beyond NS, is that this gives Axion a green light with all the other locomotive integrators and end users. If the stock gets punished on this good news I'll happily buy as much as I can today.
>bangwhiz ... Easy there, buckaroo. Outfitting NS999 for the road is still the testing stage of the project. A good development but still testing. Customer No. 1 will be someone that has made the determination that the PbC is the working solution of choice. If NS puts it in another loco, then I'll be happy that Axion has finally found Customer No. 1.
I put in an order at .45 thinking it wouldn't be filled, trying to be that spineless accumulator, and surprisingly it was. Hopefully that is double good news today. And I'm hoping we have a good volume day to allow Quercus to get rid of all the remaining bits of the 850,000 so we cut loose that small anchor - at least for now.
Seeing price action after only a few minutes: There are better invertebrates than myself.
Nice buy, and you should be well rewarded if patient. I too will be glad to see Quercus out. Even though they are orderly, they are an "anchor" as you said.....however, that anchor just got a bit lighter.
Volume for the day is up to 840k in just the first hour of trading. How much of that do you all suppose is Quercus? Have they finally exhausted their shares? I too snagged a few more at $0.44 :)
Quercus has been a steady hand at 10% of reported volume day in and day out. As of last night, they had an estimated 175,000 shares left under their most recent Form 144 filing. I'd be surprised if Quercus accounted for more than 10% of today's trading volume because their history is too consistent. In any event they should file another Form 4 by tomorrow or Monday which will let us know for sure.
I suspect it was Quercus who pounced on the volume... which is fine by me since 700k shares have already traded. Perhaps we should thank them for letting us buy today cheaper than it would have been. I too was surprised to have my bid hit.
Battery testing is the most agonizing process in the world because it takes so darned long to do it right. Unfortunately, the longer a process takes the more investors come to assume that the *delays* are an indication that *something's wrong* when the truth is the longer the process takes, the higher the probability of success gets.
It's one thing for a company like Axion to say "NS is testing our PbC" and another entirely to say "NS tested our PbC for 2-1/2 years and is now buying our product for their poster child green initiative."
Gee, don't we know of a first tier automaker or two that have been testing the PbC for a couple years for their poster child green initiatives?
I don't expect anything automaker for a while yet because NS is an end user where the automakers are buying something they want to integrate into products that they'll sell to end users, which makes the automakers a bit more careful and a bit more risk averse.
That being said, the successful conclusion of one testing program that seemed to drag on forever may soothe jangled nerves that automaker testing is dragging on forever.
Eventually folks will come to the understanding that these things take a long time and that *dragging on forever* means that everything is proceeding smoothly. It's the early terminations you want to avoid.
I keep having to remind myself that testing is only part of the equation. Once testing is completed and accepted we are still at the mercy of markets, budget and the EPA. To my knowledge, the Ford Fusion will be the first SS sold in the US and the Fusion has quite the lineup. We should be able to order them next month at which time we can ask what battery comes with…
Futurist, You seem to be bang on re NS news being baked in to the existing price. Although this felt like a significant milestone to me, this in truth derived from avoidance of the 30% price drop that would surely have accompanied news that NS was giving up on the PbC. More rationally, this is 'just' more testing, this time in the field, bringing locomotives to the point that BMW reached 6 months ago. Four months until NS field testing starts. 6 months minimum of that (?) and a 'real' rail order(s) not before this time next year. In the meantime let's hope we have that larger over the road field testing order alluded to, and some other sundry cube sales to keep us cheerful.
HTL, I expect both flippers and Quercus. I am not surprised at the action so far. I doubt you are either. There is a lot of shares to shake loose, and I expect this all the way up.
Anthlj - You are correct, but after the testing that has been done, I expect no major failure, just minor tweaking to the parts. These first few retro-fits will be slow and take time until NS gets the process perfected. This sale is a much more solid commitment that anything else we have seen. We can't go from a few million in sales to a billion $$$ overnight. Market acceptance is what was missing, now you have it.
Bang : I agree with the easy money is what is to come. People who waited for a catalyst now have it. Let's see how fast they take advantage of it.
With over 1,340,000 divided by 2 shares exchanged in a bit more than an hour, we've got to acknowledge that the news did get some attention. But, like a few other Axionistas present here, I can't help but to be a bit disappointed at the price action. I can easily recognize that it will go up eventually but after all this waiting and finally the confirmation that we are on the right track, I wouldn't have thought things would unfold quite this way.
Added another chunk at $0.415 - felt lucky and got two more at $0.4111.
If this *doesn't* break the trend my charts have been suggesting and we do hit *0.39* I'll add chunk more. If it breaks the trend and starts the grind up I want to see develop, I'll still be happy as a pig in $h*t.
These, BTW, are *not* trading blocks - those are still held.
I agree Maya. Unless there is bad news or the market takes a major hit, it should be ratcheting up from here. Absent those two things, this is our buying opportunity at this level. I'm putting in bids at the sell price .40. earlier and .41 and they are filling my orders. It takes a while, on a 15K order, they will buy 4K, then 2K, then fill the order, it takes about 15 minutes. Then, I'll think about all my shares at $1.00 and place another order. I need to restrain myself.
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History Repeating or At Least Rhyming? From Jakurtz
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We should see the 1st Quarter 2012 CC announced sometime next week for mid-May. I will probably put up another CC questions instablog for organizational purposes soon.
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It does astound me how we keep trying to put a size 10 foot into a size 8 shoe, with the L-ion evangelical movement and EV's.
The chemistry works well enough, but clearly not for this particular application.
I have always had a belief that May 2012 is when things would ramp up, and looking at the trading volume recently, one would have to believe that the big sellers are fading away (hopefully) and now if we can get the news we have all been waiting for, then an upward march seems the only logical place to go !
I like the fact that bloggers put their opinions out there for discussion, and wanted to do so myself, with regards to timelines and forecasting, so here goes nothing !
May 15 0.72c
June 30 $1.22
Sept 30 $1.44
Dec 30 $1.88
2013
March 30 $2.12
Sept 30 $3.44
Dec 2013 Somewhere North of $4.00
At least in the short term.
In the longer term (3-5 years), the sky is the limit.
D
It wasn't so long ago that I took assumed long-term growth rates for a major manufacturing company (that looked really good for the 5 year planning cycle) and found that they intended to eat up the entire US GDP within 25 years.
The DOD's goal of deploying 3 gigawatts (GW) of renewable energy by 2025 is one of the largest commitments to clean energy in history. From the Air Force's recently announced project to install over $1B of distributed solar on bases and installations across the country, to the Army's new Energy Initiatives Task Force (EITF) program that plans to issue PPAs in 2012 for 2GW of power, the services are moving smartly ahead with their plans to spur the development and installation of renewable energy ranging from utility-scale projects to rooftop solar for base housing. New programs are quickly springing up to purchase renewable power for installations -- programs that will require tens of billions of dollars in private investment and finance.
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http://bit.ly/AeOqn9
If one reads all pertinent discussion on NS/Axion , and testing has gone very well, one would have to make an educated guess that 10-15% of that budgeted figure should go Axion's way ?
Wouldn't that be fantastic !
Outstanding!
I noticed the bid was thru UBS as mkt-maker. Are you two foreigners by any chance? I think I recall bids thru UBS when a European member of the Axionistas was buying.
That's about it for my german. 8^)
At least it looks like Quercus is about 50k shares lighter between yesterday and today. Where are they now with their 850k allotment? 200k-250k left? That would mean they'll be done with this round in a couple weeks, at current rates. Maybe just before the conf call.
Got an AH trade of 19K @ $0.427, so Quercus was likely selling to the market-maker again this evening. 212K - 19K = 203, so they apparently gave a tad less than 10% (since volume was high in the last four minutes they likely didn't take time to recalculate) to the market-maker tonight for release tomorrow.
The WV average intra-day trade price today was 0.4288, so this AH price fits the pattern too.
The buy:sell has swung back in our favor at 1.12:1 and we had 30 trades that met or came near the ask vs. 16 that met or came near the bid.
HardToLove
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Jeff Osborne – Stifel Nicolaus & Company
And last one is just the, the last in environment has been pretty challenging in China in particular. I was just – want to get a sense from you what kind of headwinds do you face from a sales perspective just given the cheap lead acid batteries that are kind of out there at the moment given the subdue demand?
Doug Milner
Well yes certainly there is price pressure and you’re correct in pointing that out. We’ve seen I would say some elevated pricing pressure or lower prices from our competition but more simply in China. But really the distinction is I mean the customers that buy our solution buy it for a very specific reason. And it doesn’t matter how expensive or inexpensive lead acid batteries are – that reason is tough to beat in that space efficiency and power efficiency.
So yes we have seen it we have had to address it, we’re taking a number of actions to reduce our landed cost and ultimately our delivered cost in China for the long term. But our customer buy Active Power solutions for a specific reason and I don’t think that we’re really subject to the same competitive pressure necessarily then the lead acid providers are subjecting each other to right now.
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Today's news out of China, and what JP reported earlier today from Ford, was perfectly timed.
Thanks for the heads up.
The problem with a Yugo was whether it would stay running long enough to get to 60mph. ;-)
HardToLove
Haven't listened to the call yet, but quick (so I might have missed it) scan of slides did NOT reveal a pic of NS 999 this time ... though the capital budget was not a point of emphasis this time (Deb H. Butler, EVP Planning and CIO presented in January)
http://bit.ly/Ax7ISd
Reuters: http://reut.rs/Ib9K2R
Did catch this on a quick glance:
1. MATERIALS AND OTHER
During the first quarter of 2011, NS received an unfavorable ruling for an arbitration claim with an insurance carrier, and was denied recovery of the contested portion ($43 million) of the claim. As a result, NS recorded a $43 million charge for the receivables associated with the contested portion of the claim and a $15 million charge for other receivables affected by the ruling for which recovery was no longer probable.
http://exm.nr/JIz3tY
It's fascinating to read that the electric brakes recovered energy from braking for charging the battery (sound familiar?) The company failed in 1922 but Jay Leno owns one of the 700 made, which still carries a placard warning operators to take the vehicle to the factory if you need repairs!
http://bit.ly/I83JoG
(Hat tip to lfpdinc for the link.)
A company by the name of "New Souce Energy Group, INC" has an IPO scheduled for May 8th, with expected pricing in the 10 to 12 dollar range (offering 9.1 million shares).
Is this on anyone's radar or know anything about this co.... or is this another poor IPO?
"New Source Energy Group, Inc. (referred to herein as "New Source" or the "Company", and formerly known as "Ametrine Capital, Inc.") has been essentially inactive since its formation. Until November 19, 2010 the Company was regulated as a BDC under the Investment Company Act of 1940. However, the Company was not able to raise sufficient capital to execute upon its original business plan.
On November 30, 2010 the Company's largest stockholder sold its entire interest in the Company (being approximately 92% of the Company's issued and outstanding shares."
Then it did a reverse split ... then it tried to pursue oil and gas acquisitions .. then it was inactive ... etc. http://bit.ly/IaFBTq?storyid={c751fe14-5f4...
Now it still claims to be an oil and gas exploration and production company: http://bit.ly/K9sNGS
Not much of interest IMHO.
$400 billion in fossil fuels subsidies worldwide:
http://bloom.bg/I8MeEG
A fascinating analysis of US subsidies appeared in Motley Fool last January that showed on a useful energy basis, US hydrocarbon subsidies were on the order of $0.35 per barrel of oil equivalent while the alternative energy subsidies were closer to $35 per barrel of oil equivalent.
http://bit.ly/yiuOEe
I'll be glad when they're gone.
JP says they can file an amended 144 form to sell more shares during this 90 day period but they didn't last period, but things might be different this round if the price climbs...no way to know.
They are not driving down the price. They are merely accepting the price 90% are accepting.
I still keep wondering where the other 90% is coming from. I suspect it is a very small block of short term traders that keep jumping in and out. Its only a few cents but the % gain ( or loss) isn't bad.
Form filings certainly don't indicate any "insider" trades one way or the other.
It is better not to have a steady selling of 10%/day but when this thing wants to move it will move.
As expected by, I think, everyone else (;^)), Quercus was still 10% of daily volume, for the dates data was given--4/16 thru 4/20:
http://bit.ly/Ilmd0k
http://yhoo.it/ITVtEI
As of 11:44:28, share "buys" 49,340 and "sells" 152,150. 13 trades "buys", 16 "sells". VW average trade $0.4295.
The market-maker is running this to satisfy some big clients, IMO.
Ignoring that "lure" at the open, $0.44 is the high.
HardToLove
http://bit.ly/Ka33dq
Otherwise, a lot of good info for the newby.
Looks like it might be a lure to sell more current info. Hook to follow.
HardToLove
Take a look if you are interested.
http://seekingalpha.co...
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Follow up to JP's last post on concentrator 89 where he stated "I got a call from Mario at Rosewater" who had seen Pztricks chart and wanted to make one like it for presentations done by Rosewater.
http://bit.ly/IbVYz7
One issue with the spreadsheet relates to cash flow. I wonder what payment terms will be for power cube. This assumes Axion and Rosewater are giving terms (30-60 days?). When you consider all the variable costs Axion will experience producing a power cube, cash will definitely become an issue, particularly for those applications where an inverter is required.
My apology for making up numbers, but if the time from ordering parts to receiving revenue for a power cube is 5 months, and the average cost is $400k, that would be about $2m in cash in the scenario of 1 power cube order per month.
JP, at what point would you think that Axion might be able to establish a line of credit with a bank? Could that be a leading indicator or would it only be possible after orders are made public?
Thanks
If I were selling it the terms would be 50% down, 50% on delivery. Let the guy buying it worry about financing. Axion can't afford to play banker.
All things being equal I think Axion is likely to be pretty tight with terms for the next couple years and shoot for half down and half on delivery.
285,900 traded with 90 minutes left in trading.
http://tinyurl.com/878...
I've got this sixth sense (or is it a seventh?) that good things are getting closer.
You probably have more commenters in the same "wife" boat than one might think!...funny!
I will be attending, PM me if anyone wants to coordinate.
The Axion Power International, Inc. Annual Meeting of Stockholders (the “Annual Meeting”) will be held on June 21, 2012, at New Castle Country Club, 511 Country Club Drive, New Castle, PA 16105 at 10:00 AM. The principal business of the meeting will be:
1. To elect a director to serve until the expiration of his three year term and thereafter until his successor has been duly elected and qualified;
2. To ratify the selection of EFP Rotenberg, LLP, as the Company’s independent registered public accounting firm for the fiscal year ending December 31, 2012; and
3. To transact such other business as may be properly brought before the Annual Meeting and any adjournment or postponement thereof.
What a great way to start the summer!
I'll be seeing many of you there.
Once again the opinion of management is clear – "We don't need no stinking reverse split."
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I will be glad to start up an Instablog for people interested in attending, sharing lodging costs, travel, etc.
Last year, the Hampton Inn seemed to be where most shareholder attendees stayed. It's about four or five miles from Axion headquarters.
D. Walker Wainwright, 61, is an independent director who was appointed to our board of directors in January 2007. He is the former Chairman of Interboro Insurance Company, a provider of personal lines insurance products in New York State. He is also the founder and chief executive of Wainwright & Co. LLC, an independent financial advisory firm and investment manager. The Firm’s activities include the identification and assessment of alternative investments, the monitoring of these investments and the creation of proprietary portfolios. In this respect, the firm works with investment management firms, not-for-profit organizations and family offices as an independent consultant to create client-specific solutions. Wainwright & Co. also researches and reviews private investments, including private equity funds, to assist in determining their suitability for specific accounts or portfolios. Formerly a Managing Director in investment banking at Smith Barney, Inc. and at Kidder, Peabody & Co., Mr. Wainwright has over 35 years’ consulting, banking and investment banking experience. Having directed Kidder’s investment banking efforts in the Asia Pacific Region, he has extensive international experience and has lived in Australia and Lebanon. Mr. Wainwright began his career at Chemical Bank and, subsequently, the Schroder Group. He is a graduate of Stanford University (A.B. – 1972) and of Columbia University (M.B.A. – 1976). The Company has determined that Mr. Wainwright should serve as a director due to his long term finance and banking experience.
You want to vote to "write my name in" ...LOL
I may mention this to TG...tell him the axionista's need a director
Truly amazing. Like bangwhiz writes in his Google webpage: "We've got the power!"
Anyone have time to run the numbers more thoroughly? Thanks.
Very good.
Nice to see a couple of guys have a few more shares, including Wainwright.
Last years' Proxy:
http://bit.ly/IoKgL4
This years':
http://bit.ly/Id9fY1
Total common share ownership of the Axionistas is _________?
ans: a lot more.
who is counting?
The Quercus info is puzzling, still.
Though we don't come close to equaling the amount of effort he has given in educating everyone in the energy storage business...
And I agree, John's perserverance is legendary.
I think JP had us much higher, owning something like 37% of the common, but that was before the private offering.
Indeed...
http://seekingalpha.co...
A few comments down JP estimates 32 million shares owned by the axionistas. I was one who reported his shares at the time. I have nearly doubled my shares since then. I suspect many of you added at the end of the year like I did. If JP's earlier estimate is correct we could easily control 50 Million shares now.
I don't know that electing a director from this group would be helpful. I believe JP warned us that as soon as someone was elected, they would not be able divulge any insider info.
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maybe its a dumb idea... but if as a group we come to own 20% or more of the company... its a thought...
Somebody needs to put me on THAT mailing list!
[note to SEC observers -- this comment is entirely in jest. I do not trade on insider information nor do I know anybody who does.]
We're building a solid base between .40 and .44 at least. So I guess the next avalanche of selling will be around .60-.63.
.42 appears to be holding fairly well....but .44 gets sell orders flying.
Even with that, it still wants to try to go higher, so it won't take much.
As for being smart, I think we'll all feel a lot smarter when Axion hits $2.00.
better yet: http://bit.ly/Ia6Zjr
http://bit.ly/IhhTUe
I want an AGM battery.
(Rosewater salesperson)
WHy? A PbC does it better, lasts longer,etc.
(New Customer)
I want an AGM battery.
And on it goes. LOL. Thanks Bang.
.4584 = 200-day VWMA
.4115 = 50-day VWMA
.4253 = 20-day VWMA
.4308 = 10-day VWMA
.0276 = 10-day crossover difference
.0469 = 50-day crossover difference
"Axion Power said this first $400,000 purchase order is part of a $475,000 total purchase order, that will be used in the commissioning of Norfolk Southern's NS-999. The total purchase order will be shipped and deployed in the next 90 – 120 days. To date, this is the largest single PbC battery order that Axion has received. No further details were disclosed."
http://prn.to/IPp03x
HardToLove
I am so glad to see that this is now official...no more guessing. $475,000 is a very nice order. This should get things moving.
Now, does good news get punished? Or ignored?
I think this satisfies the "real order" criteria DRich mentioned?
TG wasn't taking much risk in projecting the revenue growth was he?
HardToLove
You read my thoughts.... I can't imagine it getting punished on this news... to me this is what I have been waiting for. This is a real Purchase order from a major company with potential for much future business. Not another "test". I can't imagine the batteries failing after all the testing, and as JP states "the embarrassment" of the first failure. Can't wait to see them installed and the NS 999 at work.
Maybe this is the beginning of the "market acceptance" I have been waiting for.
On Jan 25th D-Inv suggested $250-$300/battery
$475k/1080 = $439 each.
That seems a lot, even if that $75k extra is some kind of service aspect:
400,000/1080 = $370
Does this mean a better margin, or higher than expected costs, or where is the calculation to be modified?
In seriousness, I suspect some ancillary equipment and/or services might be included. Maybe some on-site engineering support, etc.?
HardToLove
But if 90 days, or even most of it, is the delivery period it's not exactly a high production rate (<20 batteries / day or so!).
I can't believe that production is running so high that they can't process this order in less than a month, or if they're not producing much then obviously it can all be done in a week.
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On Jan 25th D-Inv suggested $250-$300/battery
$475k/1080 = $439 each."
Could be your on the right track (pun intended) with the NS purchase order, Dave. On the other hand, it might be worthwhile to consider the 1,080 battery count from the original NS999 as a low ball estimate of PbC battery count needed for the same energy reserve.
Assuming the top line AGM batteries installed in the original NS999 had an energy density of 35 kW/lb and PbC has 25 kW/lb one might surmise that a PbC equipped NS999 would take 1.4x more batteries for comparable energy reserve. 1.4 X 1080 = 1,512; 475k/1.512k = $314 per battery.
(CPST) micro-turbines are a good example of this where the typical lead-time from order to use is 12-18 months to allow for what the customer must do.
In the cases where the customer is ready now, the units ship in a much shorter time-frame.
HardToLove
I'm reluctant to draw too many conclusions without a lot more detail.
HardToLove
Very good news, good news. There is another that I also like:
...We have been moving on a parallel development path with respect to supplying batteries for the first NS 'over the road' locomotive. This larger, more powerful, unit will require approximately twice the number of batteries as those to be shipped for the yard 'switcher' locomotive. High-performance PbC batteries are ideally suited for hybrid locomotive applications due to their high charge acceptance, fast charge and discharge capabilities (important in regenerative braking), and their inherent ability to equalize voltage when utilized in large string configurations."
Have a good day!!!!
We have been moving on a parallel development path with respect to supplying batteries for the first NS 'over the road' locomotive. This larger, more powerful, unit will require approximately twice the number of batteries as those to be shipped for the yard 'switcher' locomotive.
Have a nice day everyone !
Very good news for Axion. And, verifies our trust in TG. Here's to trusting him to deliver 300% rev growth in '12 and '13. Cheers
"Axion Power Receives Initial Norfolk Southern Order for PbC® Batteries"
http://on.mktw.net/IGjkJi
Nice list, right?
"We anticipate a long and mutually beneficial partnership ( with NS) as they move forward with their hybrid locomotive strategy."
translation: When I said 300% per year growth I was serious. This order plus the OTR loco order later this year will total 1.5 Million in PbC sales alone.
"Of course PbC batteries are also very stable and safe..."
translation: Hey Lithium.(with thumb on nose and fingers wiggling) Na na na na naaa
"PbC batteries operate safely at all temperatures; are 100% recyclable; and are priced substantially below the cost of some of the more highly publicized exotic battery chemistries.
translation. Hey, Battery users. If you want something cheap that really works give Axion Power International a call.
HardToLove
What capacity and capital budget will NS allocate to this, and how much will they reveal publicly? It was interesting that this PR came out the same week as the NS quarterly report.
How far in advance will NS commit? How long will the OTR unit has to be in service for them to commit to major battery deliveries?
Dreaming of "steady/predictable" AXPW income between NS and the flooded battery contracts ... just for starters!
But I don't think the stock price will really move till we get some of these answers.
Hopefully Tom will be able to put some color on their expectations for likely follow on orders in the next conference call. Any way you slice it, it will take a lot more good news to make a dent in the NS fleet of 4,000 locomotives, or the 20,000 units owned by CSX, UP and BNSF.
Norfolk Southern wants to reduce its CO2 emissions by 6% over the next four years. The only way to do that is reduce its fuel use by 6% over the next four years.
Then there is the rest of the world. What kind of share price will that be going forward? I don't know & I could be low. Onward toward marine applications in about 5 years. Just need to find an application to pick up the slack between now & then.
I'd bet NS fuel bill is many multiples of our market cap =)
Your question piqued enough interest to prompt a Yahoo search on "Norfolk Southern fuel use" which returned http://tinyurl.com/7tl... among other links. From that link, we have
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Compared with 2009, we reduced our greenhouse gas emissions by 3.9 percent per revenue ton-mile of freight in 2010. We achieved nearly 40 percent of our goal to reduce emissions by 10 percent per revenue ton-mile between 2009 and 2014.
We improved the fuel efficiency of our locomotive fleet by 2.2 percent over 2009. That resulted in diesel fuel savings equivalent to 10.2 million gallons and reduced emissions of 104,924 metric tons of carbon dioxide equivalents.
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2.2 percent savings amounting to 10.2 million gallons indicates fuel use of 463.64 million gallons (11.04 million barrels) in 2009 and 453.44 million gallons (10.8 million barrels) in 2010. A further reduction of 36.2 million gallons (.862 million barrels) is needed to meet the original goal of 10% reduction from 2009 consumption by 2014. With 2014 a mere 20 months away, the clock is ticking on the NS game plan
It would really be interesting to see a breakdown of NS fuel consumption by 'over-the-road' and 'switcher' locomotives and to get a read on fuel use reduction realized in 2011.
Earlier they had their ask at $0.431.
I didn't know MMs read news.
Patience here might pay off, or not, *if* FANC is setting both sides to service a larger seller.
Guessing as usual,
HardToLove
1. The new showing on MarketWatch shows a much better and coordinated release...Maybe Vani ?
2.Deployed in 90-120 days I think means installed....they can deliver the batteries quicker, may already have them. It will take a while to retro-fit the 999. That's why I say they get it running first, and then start the OTR model next year.
3. This gives me much more confidence in what TG says, especially about revenue and break even in '13. It makes you think that barring a global disaster that he already has it in his pocket.
4. No matter what the stock price does today, this makes me very, very excited about the future.
Where's that "golden cross" JP & HTL ?
Investopedia defines a "golden cross" as crossover involving a security's short-term moving average (such as 15-day moving average) breaking above its long-term moving average (such as 50-day moving average) or resistance level.
http://bit.ly/JFjDrN
A definition I like best has the 10-day VWMA move up through the 200-day VWMA and the 50-day VWMA turn up.
If you look at my graph in the header the golden cross is the point in February 2011 when all three short term averages moved up through the 200-day average and marked the start of a serious run. In 2011, there were three *problem* shareholders that owned a total of 25 million shares they wanted to sell. When they piled into the market they crushed the run. This time around I can't see a similar dynamic because the *problem* holders are either out of stock, or darned close.
The "golden cross" I would really like to see is when AXPW crosses above AONE ! LOL but seriously.
Premkt pricing finally starting to move above yesterday's close.
This will be tremendoulsly helpful to pave the way for Vani and Rosewater of future sales.
To anyone following this stock this announcement isn't news. Its confirmation of what the EPA held up last year. It does however take away any gnawing concerns that maybe it was the PbC product cvausing issues, and not NS or the EPA.
Normally expected news is already built into the price.
Yet most of us feel that the price has yet to reflect the 300% revenue increase for the next two years. If this bit of news is a confirmation of that, then Axion will have a minimum of $90 million in revenue for 2013 FY. The present value of a breakeven company with disruptive technology? The old $1.25 per share base should be back, very soon.
Confirmation of another good sale should validate the break even and the growth rate. Then I do think we see your $1.25
2011 revenue was $8 million, a 300% increase from $2 million in 2010.
A 300% increase in 2012 will take Axion to $32 million.
A 300% increase in 2013 will take Axion to $128 million.
I'm sorta glad about that - I'm tired of suspense and wouldn't like wondering if it was going to move to fill it.
BTW, interesting that volume on the share issue day of 2/1 was 2.55M and today was 2.35M.
Hm, ...
HardToLove
The exciting thing to me, beyond NS, is that this gives Axion a green light with all the other locomotive integrators and end users. If the stock gets punished on this good news I'll happily buy as much as I can today.
Seeing price action after only a few minutes: There are better invertebrates than myself.
I expect a new group of investors to enter now that there is confirmation that an elephant wants the PbC.
800k shares in first half-hour. Eating thru the resistance. Yum.
It's one thing for a company like Axion to say "NS is testing our PbC" and another entirely to say "NS tested our PbC for 2-1/2 years and is now buying our product for their poster child green initiative."
Gee, don't we know of a first tier automaker or two that have been testing the PbC for a couple years for their poster child green initiatives?
That being said, the successful conclusion of one testing program that seemed to drag on forever may soothe jangled nerves that automaker testing is dragging on forever.
Eventually folks will come to the understanding that these things take a long time and that *dragging on forever* means that everything is proceeding smoothly. It's the early terminations you want to avoid.
You seem to be bang on re NS news being baked in to the existing price. Although this felt like a significant milestone to me, this in truth derived from avoidance of the 30% price drop that would surely have accompanied news that NS was giving up on the PbC. More rationally, this is 'just' more testing, this time in the field, bringing locomotives to the point that BMW reached 6 months ago. Four months until NS field testing starts. 6 months minimum of that (?) and a 'real' rail order(s) not before this time next year. In the meantime let's hope we have that larger over the road field testing order alluded to, and some other sundry cube sales to keep us cheerful.
Stock hit 40 cents pal...Buy some more!!
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All Quercus or some more "flippers" from 2/1 issue?
Anyway, there were, as suggested by recent action, sellers primed apparently.
HardToLove
Anthlj - You are correct, but after the testing that has been done, I expect no major failure, just minor tweaking to the parts. These first few retro-fits will be slow and take time until NS gets the process perfected. This sale is a much more solid commitment that anything else we have seen. We can't go from a few million in sales to a billion $$$ overnight. Market acceptance is what was missing, now you have it.
Bang : I agree with the easy money is what is to come. People who waited for a catalyst now have it. Let's see how fast they take advantage of it.
Will be trying for more at that level or better.
HardToLove
EDIT: 10:26:14 140 trades, buy 418,400, sell 751,280 ratio 1:1.8, worsening.
Selling pressure remains, but from today forward, I'll consider it more like a nuisance dog pulling at my trouser cuff.
Trade went off @ 10:55:29, 6,000 fat fingered shares now in the fold.
If this *doesn't* break the trend my charts have been suggesting and we do hit *0.39* I'll add chunk more. If it breaks the trend and starts the grind up I want to see develop, I'll still be happy as a pig in $h*t.
These, BTW, are *not* trading blocks - those are still held.
HardToLove
My Schwab screen says volume = "1,722,625 Above Avg." as of 11:03AM.
I've had a GTC in at .4 since 11th April. Not a bite. What is your secret?
Now, I have to go find something else to sell to balance me out.
The volume spike should get the attention of traders. We're 6 times average daily volume at 11.
I expect the bottom to be in soon, (if not already)...any follow up news from whoever/whenever should begin the grind up that HTL wants.
I love volume, it will take Quercus and weak flippers out sooner.
The ready sellers appear numerous and eagerly waiting for any bump from good news.
Excitement got the better of me...
Congratulation to Axion Power, Axionista's and Axionator's!
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