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    Aug 22, 2012 8:12 PM | about stocks: AXPW

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    Axion Power Reports Second Quarter Results For 2012

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  • RBrun357
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    Hey, where is everybody????

     

    357
    22 Aug 2012, 08:29 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    :-) Looking for mastodons.
    22 Aug 2012, 08:33 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    Interesting articles on developments bearing on market(s) for PowerCubes.

     

    http://bit.ly/QsaOyt

     

    http://bit.ly/SpE0MR
    22 Aug 2012, 08:44 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Didn't Enron already try gaming the populace with their antics?

     

    One thing I've not seen from the solar panel makers, that might help with cost for new construction and some retrofits, is a solar panel that functions both as a energy collector and as a roofing unit. Perhaps this would help offset some of the cost for some installations as you have to cover the roof anyway. I'd be surprised if it didn't already exist. It's a low tech way to get more added value out of what looks like it could easily be designed to serve the purpose. This, of coarse, depends on the orientation etc. of roof angels which could be designed in for some new construction.
    22 Aug 2012, 09:02 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Some researchers are working on that sort of thing, iindelco...

     

    Some Welch guys have a spray on coating which they are using to create metal building panels which are also solar panels. Several private companies are using modified inkjet tech to spray on solar panels (one I heard of also creates the control electronics and circuits the same way).

     

    Imagine a solar cell paint. Just repaint your house, car, or anything and turn it into an energy source...
    22 Aug 2012, 09:16 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    TB: I saw/read where someone who walks five miles a day, can put a battery in the sneaker sole, and due to compression, the battery will charge. Wouldn't it be cool that if you went out for a walk before dinner, and afterwhich you could plop the charged battery in some conversion device, and have enough power to cook up some sole?

     

    Lebron's new $315 sneaks should have such a green feature. ;-)

     

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, no way, yet.
    22 Aug 2012, 10:38 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Ahh, TB, I've seen some research papers on that. Someday hopefully.
    22 Aug 2012, 10:45 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Maya, lots of work with piezoelectric devices that generate small amounts of current from input signals like vibration. This would allow them to be placed in various locations like railroad bridges, roadways, trees etc with sensors to monitor different things via electronics that required low energy levels. Big brother stuff also.

     

    Pretty soon you will not be able to use the old saying "If a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound if nobody is there to hear it." Someone will ask where you're talking about and respond. "We'll check." I'm not going to laugh after that one. :(
    22 Aug 2012, 11:31 PM Reply Like
  • Mathieu Malecot
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    would be good design if maned space trips had peizoelectrics on the inside where human functions contribute vibration inputs even while seated!

     

    that is a bad fart joke.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:36 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    I did see one biomedical battery that used human blood in the battery (fuel cell?). Being developed for things like pacemakers.

     

    Perhaps they should focus more on the waste stream though as you suggest. Plus it would reduce galaxy warming since farts are a green house gas. We humans, as George Carlin would say, "So self important".
    23 Aug 2012, 09:23 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Isn't the Bloom Box a methane powered fuel cell? Surely somebody could come up with a Bloom Box Personal, for the little rosebud in all of us.
    23 Aug 2012, 09:28 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Mathieu: We'd have to have monitoring and algorithms to assure there is no coordinated activity as harmonic reverberations from inadvertent (semi-)simultaneous release might destroy the capsule.

     

    Tesla may have been right, on smaller scales.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 09:40 AM Reply Like
  • D Lane
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    Dow has solar shingles on the market.
    23 Aug 2012, 09:52 AM Reply Like
  • SMaturin
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    MM,

     

    If we could add a piezo transducer to our silver-lined boxers we would have dual purpose utility wear. Generate power while preventing bricking.

     

    There's got to be a patentable idea in there...
    23 Aug 2012, 11:00 AM Reply Like
  • siliconhillbilly
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    But think of all the clothing you would need to wear to keep the Bloom Box at the required 500C degrees!
    23 Aug 2012, 01:08 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    You'd sell that as an additional user benefit, a personal bun warmer.
    23 Aug 2012, 01:25 PM Reply Like
  • AlbertinBermuda
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    check out innowattech.

     

    http://bit.ly/Ky2qwP
    23 Aug 2012, 02:43 PM Reply Like
  • SMaturin
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    Albert, I'm not sure I want that going on in my shorts... ouch.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:57 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    "check out innowattech."

     

    Interesting stuff.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:05 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >AlbertinBermuda ... I have to say the train powering its crossing guard is an interesting idea. I just look at all that wiring and see a maintenance nightmare and a costly installation. Gathering it for the grid looks even worse. A lot of loss built in. I have to admit I have not (will not) spend a lot of time to figure the economics, although the idea is sound and will probably find a market.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:15 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Wouldn't that be something to set-up a station with this technology such that it harvested energy from your driving and took your picture if you were speeding. Printed on the bottom of the ticket "turned yourself in". Man, that would P.O. some people.

     

    Anyway, I suspect there are some uses where this makes sense like the small energy collector theme discussed earlier. Just can't see it being very economical in many of the examples given in their videos.

     

    I am a fan of some forms of energy harvesting. Like generators on exercise bikes in fitness centers perhaps. I'm not a one size fits all kind of person. Look around, there's opportunity.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:28 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Albert: Check out (NENE) on the OTCQB.

     

    I think it was Robert B. Feguson or Options Girl, long-time SA participants, who spotted this. Not sure though - memory old and sporadic now.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 04:39 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    "a solar panel that functions both as a energy collector and as a roofing unit."

     

    Scott Sklar tells me he has such on his home. (Don't know the brand name.)

     

    !Yahoo search on solar roof shingles turned up

     

    http://bit.ly/QsflRp
    http://bit.ly/SpJhE9

     

    and others

     

    22 Aug 2012, 09:16 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >iindelco ... Your roofing solution does (or did) exist. Dow Chemicals manufactures (?) a photovoltaic shingle in L.A. somewhere. It was also the idea of the thin films companies like ENER.
    22 Aug 2012, 09:19 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Thanks DRich, Just makes sense.
    22 Aug 2012, 09:26 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    http://bit.ly/L093uD

     

    According the cited source, FERC compensation rule for frequency regulation services kicks in for PJM in late September and becomes active on NYISO grid in early October.

     

    Given TG responses to wtb question(s) on top of CEDIA and Rosewater Energy agreement with Ontario local distribution company regarding distributed residential storage test, that could be a herd of mastodons in the road ahead.
    22 Aug 2012, 09:35 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    D-Inv: nice catch. Makes me wonder if that has anything to do with the 20' container we've wondered about.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 06:24 AM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    D-inv,
    Thanks for the link and delighted to see a registered date for application of the frequency regulation services with PJM leading the way. Have been waiting for this information. Hope that Axion RFP's result in Mastodons and Neanderthals living in symbiotic harmony.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:25 AM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    Morning Metro,
    Just imagine, potatoes, carrots and a sizzling mastodon steak for dinner.
    23 Aug 2012, 11:02 AM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    "Makes me wonder if that has anything to do with the 20' container we've wondered about."

     

    Definite possibility, although it just as well could have been positioned to load a shipment of PbC or 30HT batteries. Delivery of the system for the Washington Navy Yard project occurred in July, not long after the ASM. And, clearly there were some sales of PbCs/30Hts to unidentified buyers in Q2.
    23 Aug 2012, 01:08 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Found this article today comparing mid sized offerings from GM. F and Chrysler. Note one of the comments regarding truck space on the Buick.

     

    "GM’s Buick LaCrosse with eAssist scored lower than rivals because of “a narrow cockpit, a busy dashboard, obscured sight lines and trunk storage that’s compromised” by its hybrid battery system, according to the statement. The drivetrain helped the LaCrosse achieve 26 mpg in Consumer Reports testing, the best in the large-sedan category."

     

    http://bloom.bg/QsmocI

     

    So while people might like the higher gas mileage of the Buick they don't like the space taken up by the battery in the truck. It's an interesting consideration. I've seen them put 12Vdc batteries in the passenger compartment but only lead acid. Is this a design consideration? Do the lawyers out and out say no when it comes to lithium ion in the passenger compartment? Need to look around.
    22 Aug 2012, 09:58 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    Questions for you engineer geeks: At what temperature range can an inverter work?

     

    An oddity about the PowerCube for me was when I was standing in it three times, two times the a/c was on -- yes, it was hot outside both of those visits.

     

    From my understanding, the PbCs can operate efficiently at higher temps than room temperature.

     

    Why does the Cube need to be 72 degrees or so? Is it because of the inverter? Or, was it merely being chilled to a more shareholder friendly-to-visit temperature.

     

    Also, how much drain is there from air conditioning the Cube? What's the trade off?
    22 Aug 2012, 11:58 PM Reply Like
  • Ishikawa
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    Using Mil-spec parts, you can design to -55 to 125 degrees C. For regular commercial design, it should more than handle the battery operating range.

     

    72 degrees is the environment, the actual operating temperature of the electronics is higher when charging. Otherwise it should be same as room temp.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:32 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    Thanks, Ishikawa!

     

    Quells any concern I hold that air conditioning has more than a nominal drain.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:55 PM Reply Like
  • Tampa Ted
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    More Fisker problems ...

     

    http://bit.ly/PdRd6o
    23 Aug 2012, 12:06 AM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    Great sluething find, Stephan!

     

    But I far like this original version told. Just so much fun to read! I was truly cracking up. Rolling Stone-esk.

     

    http://bit.ly/SpfREv
    23 Aug 2012, 12:20 AM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Mayascribe ... A commodity inverter will start to loose efficiency at 65-70 degC. At 90 degC is the beginning of total failure with about 50-80% drop in flux density and by 130-150 degC ... it's toast (like fire hazard). Hopefully, there is a thermal resistor in the circuit. So, to answer your question an inverter can function from -40 degC to +85 degC.

     

    I would imagine the need to cool a PowerCube would be for human comfort but could be for the optimum reactive temperature of the battery chemistry (?). To draw the AC current from the PowerCube itself would probably be in the range of 6-10 kW.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:27 AM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    Thanks, DRich!
    23 Aug 2012, 01:05 PM Reply Like
  • Tampa Ted
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    What could you not like about this line, lol ...

     

    "It's long, low, striking, and sort of looks like a couple of mermaids going at it in a sleeping bag."
    23 Aug 2012, 12:28 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Here's a site that seems to track social media and rate the respective topic in some manner. I've looked at it a few times but haven't fully digested it. If I ever will! Maybe someone here is more familiar than I.

     

    http://bit.ly/PHKsvV
    23 Aug 2012, 01:41 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    I'm still smiling when they have John as the top name "The following names occur in articles mentioning this organization:"

     

    The second one most associated...Warren Buffet, LOL
    23 Aug 2012, 01:47 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    It's amazing the granularity of the data that's becoming available to the general public on sites like these. Next stop – the self awareness of Skynet.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:09 AM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    Fidelity.com picked up John's article.
    link: it is same article just Fidelity site.

     

    http://bit.ly/O7szTZ
    23 Aug 2012, 05:44 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    That doesn't suck.
    23 Aug 2012, 06:23 AM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    One can "digg" the article, and can log in to digg it via facebook or twitter - neither which I have.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:02 AM Reply Like
  • jakurtz
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    That is kind of a big deal.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:42 AM Reply Like
  • jakurtz
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    Except that they have the ticker symbol wrong and it points to AXIH (axion international holdings) ....oh brother someone needs to write to fidelity.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:47 AM Reply Like
  • magounsq
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    metro

     

    good find...curious how fast they followed up...maybe an internal db trigger given so much action re AXPW @fidelity?
    23 Aug 2012, 01:15 PM Reply Like
  • magounsq
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    John

     

    Are you back again?...another TSC link via Fidelity.

     

    Tesla's 'BS to Book' Ratio Says It All

     

    http://bit.ly/SYZ4FF
    23 Aug 2012, 01:18 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Temptation is a funny thing. I'm old enough to know better but too young to resist.
    23 Aug 2012, 01:27 PM Reply Like
  • magounsq
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    jakurtz

     

    I tried...

     

    EMAILED TO Fidelity today:

     

    RE: Please Correct symbol in article...***AXPW***-FMR Article
    Inbox
    x
    REPLY:

     

    Fidelity Investments donotreply@fidelity.com
    1:17 PM (12 minutes ago)

     

    to me
    This email is automatically generated to confirm that your email to Fidelity Investments was received.

     

    Please note: We are unable to act on any money movement requests or trading requests to buy, sell, or exchange securities via email.

     

    If you wish, you may contact a Fidelity Representative at 800-544-6666. Representatives are available 24 hours a

     

    day, 7 days a week, for your convenience. You can also visit our Web site at http://www.Fidelity.com.

     

    We appreciate your business and the opportunity to assist you.

     

    Fidelity Brokerage Services LLC, Member NYSE, SIPC
    23 Aug 2012, 01:32 PM Reply Like
  • jakurtz
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    Thanks for making the contact I have tried myself as well, but I can't find a contact for their media content. Every contact is for their brokerage services.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:05 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    I tried as well but couldn't find a contact for Fidelity Interactive Content Services, who maintain the site.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:45 PM Reply Like
  • cstone
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    Hi all....I'm an 8 month lurker and shareholder coming out of the closet...err..cube. I too noticed that Fidelity has the wrong symbol. It looks like they picked up TheStreet article and their software auto-inserted the wrong symbol...yes, there is another Axion International, sans the 'Power'. That stock closed at about $.35 yesterday and has had a nice pop to $.45 today...30% up or so....probably thanks to JP and Fidelity's snafu. If so, there are going to be some unhappy people when it settles back down.

     

    As there was no real contact on the Fidelity site for web content to technical issues, I called their general number 800-343-3548. The woman was appreciative and interested, but said she would have to research who to report this to within Fidelity.

     

    Good luck to all in AXPW and enjoy the temporary gift (except for the recent buyers) to our comrades in AXIH!
    23 Aug 2012, 04:10 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    cstone, good to hear from you and all the other new or infrequent posters in the past week. Very refreshing to see the increased interest.

     

    Luckily, AXIH only had volume of 59k shares today. Looks like they also had a PR this morning. Could be a mess sorting THAT out.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:22 PM Reply Like
  • siliconhillbilly
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    John, for some reason I get the image of you barefoot while poking a stick into a fire ant mound. Must be lack of sleep on my part ;-)
    24 Aug 2012, 09:39 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    In the late 80s I was fooling with the dog in the back yard and found myself standing in a fire ant mound. Like most mistakes in my life I only made that one once.

     

    The difference, of course, is that fire ants can and do sting while EVangelicals can only gush about cool.
    24 Aug 2012, 09:44 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    (AXPW): 8/22/2012: EOD stuff.
    # Trds: 103, MinTrSz: 140, MaxTrSz: 49835, Vol 525637, AvTrSz: 5103
    Min. Pr: 0.3000, Max Pr: 0.3050, VW Avg. Tr. Pr: 0.3046
    # Buys, Shares: 93 487867, VW Avg Buy Pr: 0.3047
    # Sells, Shares: 10 37770, VW Avg Sell Pr: 0.3026
    # Unkn, Shares: 0 0, VW Avg Unk. Pr: 0.0000
    Buy:Sell 12.92:1 (92.8% “buys”), DlyShts 339699 (64.6%), Dly Sht % of 'sells' 899.39%

     

    First, I want to emphasis that “Dly Sht % of 'sells'” is new, has unknown utility and, I think, might have value only in a more normal daily scenario. Today we experienced “TPOTSE” - The (John) Petersen On “The Street” Effect, IMO. From the open at $0.30 through EOD we averaged ~1,348 shares traded per minute. Going only through ~14:45, when things slowed, we averaged ~1,669 shares per minute. This is very unusual for AXPW.

     

    You can see the “enthusiasm” in the buy:sell ratio.

     

    Being such an unusual day, I’ll not blather as much as usual. I just want to see if there is a longer-term effect (going beyond just three days or a week) and if this is enough to suck the remaining shares out of the hands of the big sellers. Might have have seen a crack in the wall yesterday as a couple of folks reported seeing some break in the ARCA market-maker presentations over the last couple of days. I also saw this late yesterday as the normal “standard” block of 5K ask presentation was replaced with a 7K presentation on the ask side.

     

    Another possible indication is that, although it’s still early (08:05), only NITE is showing the “standard” 5K ask at $0.305 ATM and EGRO and ARCA are not yet on the field, according to my Market Depth (Level II) panel.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 08:23 AM Reply Like
  • jveal
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    165 K in the first 2 minutes and .3084 for the high!
    23 Aug 2012, 09:32 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Broke thru 30.5 cents on good volume--170k shares in the first 2 1/2 minutes. NITE and EGRO now off the best offer at 32 cents. I don't even see ARCA at all. Looks good, but I hope this lasts.
    23 Aug 2012, 09:33 AM Reply Like
  • jveal
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    Is the elevator man making his last call before the door closes?
    23 Aug 2012, 09:33 AM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    Hey, how do you spell "Inflection Point"??

     

    $.31

     

    I have my fingers crossed!

     

    357
    23 Aug 2012, 09:34 AM Reply Like
  • tonys23
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    This is going to be an interesting day! I credit John's article for putting us on a much larger radar screen, and today's action already reflects that. Hold on, maybe those seat belts TG mentioned fastening are going to need to be tightened!
    23 Aug 2012, 09:35 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    (AXPW): ARCA is nowhere to be found. EGRO is offering at $0.32 ATM. Had pre-market trades (folks trying to beat the rush) totaling 50K in two trades at $0.305/$0.307.

     

    Ask TG if I can borrow his seatbelt. Thanks to JP, looks like we might need it earlier than we (well, some of "we") might have expected.

     

    'Course, early in the process - let's not get all giddy.

     

    Having said that, I did mention a bit back about the possibility of paint being peeled off by the sonic boom and/or thermal effects.

     

    :-)) Calm down HTL, just stay calm.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 09:46 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Average trade size is encouraging indeed. It will be interesting to see if it's a pattern or an aberration.
    23 Aug 2012, 09:53 AM Reply Like
  • Mathieu Malecot
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    well, i have added 40k shares over the last 5 trading days. lowest block 10k at .295 and 18k today at .31

     

    if volume fades so will the rally, but the AXPW sale looks tired.
    23 Aug 2012, 10:08 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Wow. NITE was the only MM between 31 and 32. Now they're at 32 with a couple others.

     

    We were hoping JP's article, combined with the Q2 days, would produce enough volume to break us thru the 30.5 wall. It's early, but so far so good.

     

    Looking ahead...I wonder if all the volume around 30 makes it easier to break thru 35 this time. I hope we find out soon. If TheStreet newcomers don't bail then, perhaps.
    23 Aug 2012, 10:04 AM Reply Like
  • snowbirdac11
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    Fellow bottom feeder Axionastas, a thought came to me, if we remove our low bids, I am curious what the level 2 bids will look like. Currently, there are a lot of low bids on level 2. If we want the stock to go up, it will look better if we removed our outdated low bids????

     

    If I am a new buyer, I see all these low bids on level 2, what will the new buyer think?
    23 Aug 2012, 10:30 AM Reply Like
  • RBrun357
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    snowbird,

     

    How about having those low bids raised up to the ask price?

     

    Just thinking!! ;-))

     

    357
    23 Aug 2012, 10:41 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    MrI: A significant thing I think - NITE is not showing the "standard" 5K. ATM (was) 24K, now 10K.

     

    Maybe they're running out of "biggie" shares getting dumped too.

     

    I would be amazing how prescient JP was in suggesting when we'd be running out if it works out these early indications follow through.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 10:51 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    I avoid "coordinated" action for lots of good(?) reasons.

     

    I suggest folks behave normally.

     

    Free exchange of information and ideas is good, "collusion" or "manipulation" less so.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 10:57 AM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    HTL,
    Well, at least normal for us?
    23 Aug 2012, 11:12 AM Reply Like
  • snowbirdac11
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    357
    We still have a lot of bottom feeders around. Some are gathering their dry powers and hope the price stay low long enough for them to buy. Therefore, it will not be fair to ask them to raise their bid price.
    snowbirdac11
    23 Aug 2012, 12:48 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    SD: As long as we don't forget to take our meds - A generic for Axionistas! :-))

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 03:50 PM Reply Like
  • jveal
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    Either the bottom feeders are coming up or new buyers have entered with 160,000 bid at .31
    23 Aug 2012, 10:52 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Resistance just switched to support...

     

    Now we just have to watch the fireworks.

     

    I've been selling off rare earth plays and taking profits from other sectors to sink into $.29 and $.30 AXPW. No regrets, I have rarely done more due diligence, and I am only a fraction away from break even on my average share price...

     

    Good luck to all Axionistas, wherever you are.

     

    The next headlines I want to see abruptly featuring AXPW would be on the various "Biggest Gainer" lists...
    23 Aug 2012, 10:57 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    http://bit.ly/O0MbJy
    23 Aug 2012, 11:00 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    tripleback---"I have rarely done more due diligence"--that's why I'm here, the chance to uncover a risk/reward balance tilted significantly in our favor. Thanks to all.
    23 Aug 2012, 11:11 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    For those that need to hear it more than once.

     

    http://bit.ly/MOJgHH
    23 Aug 2012, 11:32 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Well, if the big sellers are still there, now's their chance to sell at least 160k shares at 31 cents or better.

     

    Oops. Jveal, you beat me by a couple minutes again!
    23 Aug 2012, 10:55 AM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    Mr I, (of the law firm of Lungfish, Krill and Flounder)
    Another .5 cent increase - to .32 - and it is time for your "It´s Alive" link again. Even if it doesn't last it is an encouraging blip.
    23 Aug 2012, 11:36 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Or this Amazing one:

     

    http://bit.ly/PEM2Ne
    23 Aug 2012, 11:53 AM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    Hey, filmed in Portugal. At least some of the places I recognized are just a few kilometers from where I live. I see it as a good omen (might as well be positive).
    23 Aug 2012, 12:04 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Those cliff cave condos are sweet!
    23 Aug 2012, 12:37 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    (AXPW): Some larger money coming in - 74K @ $0.31 just went off.

     

    ~434.4K VWAP $0.3095, buy:sell through 10:58 8.03:1.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 11:20 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    (AXPW): OK. Big seller not totally gone, buy:sell deteriorated to 1.67:1 as of 11:45 on ~465.4K, VWAP now ~$0.3096, still holding up well in spite of the selling. Apparently the seller's broker has decided to take advantage of the sentiment change.

     

    "buys" 291430 VWAP $0.3097, "sells" 174000 VWAP $0.3093.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 12:05 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    My fondest hope is that somebody will learn an important lesson on the value of a gentle hand. Micro-cap markets are like babies. When they're hungry you can shovel almost anything edible down their throats an an amazing rate. When they're finicky, they'll puke all over you if you try to force a spoonful, and through some miraculous phenomenon I've never understood, the violence of the puking is always disproportional.

     

    I learned years ago that the only way to sell a micro-cap is passively. Don't even try to make a right now decision. Instead lay a block of shares out at or a little above the bid and let the market take them when it wants them.

     

    I'd expect a lot more artistry from "professionals," but they're generally even more ham handed than novice retail investors.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:18 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Tell me about it. Especially when there's a change in portfolio managers or strategy. Shortly after I left as manager of a preferred stock portfolio, the head honchos decided to switch gears and the portfolio had to be liquidated. Pieces I had spent years putting together, fighting for every nickel on $100 par value, were sold in a whirlwind of stupidity. One 100,000 shares chunk of Con Ed sold for par, and I found out thru my contacts that the broker resold it immediately for $106! Holy hel! $600,000 to the house in 10 minutes. Institutions can indeed be dumber than anyone else. Especially when selling.

     

    Anyway, the drones have their marching orders. They could lift the ask to 32 cents or more but then they get slammed if we don't see that level again for awhile. And getting slammed is worse than getting praised, when you have orders.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:59 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Well, they just lifted it to 32, lol.

     

    Ok, how about 35 now? ;^)
    23 Aug 2012, 01:46 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    " Well, they just lifted it to 32, lol.

     

    Ok, how about 35 now? ;^) "

     

    Geez, is this a black swan event in the making? Something is different here cuz my purchase of a stock is a virtual guarantee the price will decline and I bought yesterday for less than current trade prices.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:07 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    D-inv, "Even a blind swan catches a ..." 8^P

     

    Hey, NITE just lifted again, to 33.5 cents. D-inv, your vision is 20/10 compared to theirs.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:38 PM Reply Like
  • D-inv
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    "Hey, NITE just lifted again, to 33.5 cents. D-inv, your vision is 20/10 compared to theirs."

     

    Seat belt and shoulder harness in place. Ready for lift off.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:09 PM Reply Like
  • ccpine
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    That was mine HT Love.....I've been watching and waiting for several trends before pulling the trigger. The significant and noticeable decrease each day between bid and ask is one. The spread we used to see on a daily basis was much greater, spanning 2-3 cents per transaction at times. Another was the spread between high/low of the day...which again has dropped to a much much tighter gap. Third was a week (or 2) of sustained high daily volumes. All of those tightening variables along with the major sellers soon to 'exit stage left'....plus the increased exposure of the stock via JP's awesome and VERY WELCOME piece on The Street.com mean the train is about to leave the station. At any rate, my actual block of 100k went off as a block of 26k, and another at 74k. All aboard!!!!!
    23 Aug 2012, 12:10 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    ccpine: Excellent move!

     

    Your info is very much reflected in the above chart by the 200 daily moving volume average (that delicious looking red line).

     

    23 Aug 2012, 12:17 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    @ ccpine: welcome to the "Axionistas" board and congrats! I suspected those two were a single trade. I like your thoughts about the things you watch - we all learn when we share.

     

    Let's hope your sojourn here is fruitful!

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 12:25 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    If you look at the blue line you'll see that 500,000 seems to be a resistance level for the 10-day volume. At today's close the 10-day volume will be comfortably in the 550,000 to 600,000 range.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:25 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Let the stone throwing commence!

     

    Tesla's 'BS to Book' Ratio Says It All

     

    http://bit.ly/QuXUzG
    23 Aug 2012, 12:33 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    John, I watched on the Valence board for about 20 years as one poster kept pointing out many factors with "Blue Sky" becoming more and more of a topic of conversation as the years went by (I was an investor 20 years ago or so and I've followed the industry for longer so I'm not just following them to witness the outcome. OK, OK I'm nuts!). This guy was deemed the board idiot.

     

    Now the controlling interest of Valence was and remains very rich and he was obviously very patient. However even he can't stand in lava and remain "Cool as a cucumber". The outcome, This person that was the board idiot is the board sage and the controlling interest Mr. Berg and the latest CEO are thieves and worse.

     

    With the cash burn rate that it takes to run an auto plant with no steady state production and only one new product just being ramped into a market where all the similar technology vehicles are flaming out. Oy vey.

     

    I love a good outcome given an against all odds story but they are epic because they are rare.
    23 Aug 2012, 01:26 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I'm not kidding when I say that I'd love for Tesla to prove me wrong. I'll eat a pot of crow stew with gusto if that happens. For now, I don't feel any need to go out and buy a bottle of Pepto Bismol.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:17 PM Reply Like
  • JRP3
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    You probably should stock up and buy a case. Even if they miss their early marks by a few weeks and even if they need to raise more capital at some point to get over the hump it's highly unlikely they are going away. The car is just too damn good and there are just too many people who want one. Your three year FUD campaign has failed, but it's fun to watch you keep trying.
    24 Aug 2012, 09:16 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    About this time every year football fans from dozens of colleges start talking trash about how their boys are going to take the National Championship. Only one gets the trophy.

     

    I'll congratulate Tesla if, as and when it creates a stable business. Until then you're just flapping you gums.
    24 Aug 2012, 09:24 AM Reply Like
  • Axion Power Host
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    Author’s reply » Further use of terms, such as "FUD" will get you banned. Such are "attacks", this is not Ya!oo and the patience of JP is not present here.

     

    Please continue your past constructive style where disagreement is welcomed.

     

    APH
    24 Aug 2012, 10:17 AM Reply Like
  • JRP3
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    I did not realize the acronym for fear, uncertainty, and doubt, was an attack. My apologies.
    25 Aug 2012, 08:29 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    The sentence was an attack. You are no more welcome here than you are as a commenter on my articles. Were the decision mine to make, you would not be allowed to post any comments in this forum - EVER.
    25 Aug 2012, 09:52 AM Reply Like
  • Axion Power Host
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    Author’s reply » I'm pretty sure you're aware that a very common meaning of "FUD" is "F***ing Useless Drivel".

     

    Your definiton might be more family-freindly, but still qualifed as a personal disparagement: "Your three year FUD campaign has failed".

     

    Sharing opinions about investing opportunities and factors affecting them is certainly welcome.

     

    Disparagement of any individual that offers best personal assessments is not.

     

    All are better-served by factual (where possible, of course) counter-points and/or considerations that may not have been factored into folks decision-making process.

     

    APH
    25 Aug 2012, 10:54 AM Reply Like
  • JRP3
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    I honestly was not aware of the other meaning.
    26 Aug 2012, 08:45 AM Reply Like
  • JRP3
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    "Were the decision mine to make, you would not be allowed to post any comments in this forum - EVER. "

     

    Even though I disagree completely with almost every thing you post about EV's, and even though I disagree completely with your tactics I've never tried to suggest you should not be allowed to post.

     

    Frankly I'm here mostly as a lurker and AXPW shareholder looking for Axion data, but got drawn into the Tesla commentary.
    26 Aug 2012, 08:56 AM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    JP: Also, drawing a line, connecting the 10-Day bottom points from last October through this August shows that a support level of just over 200,000 shares per day is quite possibly the LOWEST volume we'll ever see again.

     

    "Likes" feature has left the building.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:36 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Did you ever wonder where all that supply is going to come from when the last of the legacy holders are out of stock?

     

    The new investors will have to try and pry it out of the hands of guys we all know and love who will no doubt take some profits along the way, but are generally in for the long haul.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:41 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    That's when my church pew theory really kicks in. To see all the new buyers showing up in this column means the pews are already getting crowded. I don't see anyone here getting pried out of their seat.

     

    There was some questioning about what buying power do the Axionistas have left in their collective pocketbooks. We're watching this right before our eyes, and the answer is lots left, especially from the lurkers.

     

    Great Street article, John. Feathers will be ruffled.
    23 Aug 2012, 12:53 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Their all time record for number of comments is a piddling 300. It will be interesting.
    23 Aug 2012, 01:04 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    You can have my share of soylent green but....

     

    http://bit.ly/taLwrY
    23 Aug 2012, 01:07 PM Reply Like
  • SMaturin
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    Maya,

     

    They should be more worried about their teslacles than their feathers.
    23 Aug 2012, 01:24 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    My hope is the Axionistas (new and old) are willing to buy into the .40s and .50s in the same way their wallets opened up in the low .30s. Nothing would be better than to see volume and price both rise together. Right now we still aren't near the level of actual dollar flow that we say in the early 2011 when sometimes a Million bucks traded in a day.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:05 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    bazooooka---Thanks, finally, someone mentions $ volume, not just share volume. Also good to see we have plenty of room to expand into already-covered $ volume territory, before we even get to new land.

     

    I've been amazed at the pittance it takes to buy a chunk of AXPW. A 100,000 share purchase was only $30k. Chump change for the bigger investors. We get their attention and we'll REALLY be on a roll.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:06 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Mr Investor ... $ volume & shareprice appreciation to those levels won't gain traction or the attention of "The Big Boys" until Axion proves its market. Things look up & better but the market proof is not there. I'd like to see that interest aligned investor or an Angel like Quercus (with less internal difficulties). Shouldn't take much more than another year. I tell you what would jump the shark would be the move on to a real exchange.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:18 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    DRich---there's a lot of investable $ across the whole risk spectrum. But I'd be surprised, pleasantly, to see a biggie get in right now, as I'd think whoever was going to be in when the sector was hot is probably already in (and often still trying to get out). There are some seemingly goofy wildcards like Special Sits, though.

     

    Overall, I see signs of a lot more exposure recently and I think, in the next 6 months. Since I think the story is compelling and rational, exposure is good. Very good.

     

    Yeah, a bigger-boy trading mkt sure would be great. I know we've discussed it here in the past. I think the net was, no split is coming, so the move could only help after we've already had a big move in price. Not ideal, but I like compounding of benefits, anytime.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:46 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >Mr Investor ... I'm just sayin' that attracting a big money market name investor ... ain't happening anytime soon. It's always possible for a small-to-middling fund to jump in (can we all say "flip"). Blackrock has a unit that makes small speculative bets on "hot" sectors but this is not the norm and I'll bet someone is serving penance for the Alternative Energy Segment. I do hope when things start down the trail we don't gully-wash the herd here with "irrational exuberance".
    23 Aug 2012, 07:59 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Me, too, although it might provide an excellent opportunity for you to sell your trading shares, then buy back in when the exuberance inevitably fades, if you think that you can time that.

     

    But I'm a terrible timer, so I don't even try it. I just stick with the slow slog as something hopefully moves from off-radar to on. I like to ackowledge when I'm pleased with developments, like the last two weeks. Set the bar so low (with an average cost of 32.5 cents) I could almost sleepwalk over it, but pleased anyway.
    23 Aug 2012, 08:11 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    If Jamie Dimon chose to come aboard, I may actually start to like JPM; they do have a green energy investment theme.

     

    Goldman Sachs needs serious help with their trading.

     

    JP's article on the Street could drum up all kinds of interest not before seen.

     

    ####

     

    Anyone want me to fire up a FF League Insta? I know of no group anywhere better at research than this one. My team "Steagles" won last year. And I've won 4 out of 8 years, twice in a 40 team league. Last year paid for a couple of months of homeowners fees. I study my tookus off, because I hate, despise and loath losing at anything I get involved with.

     

    Doing a draft right now on ESPN. This year is going to be tough to repeat, with the 12th pick in a twelve team league.
    23 Aug 2012, 08:28 PM Reply Like
  • Mathieu Malecot
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    my team, the Cephalopods, has a draft this saturday. they too are stuck at 12 in a 12 man league. my plan: chris johnson.
    23 Aug 2012, 08:35 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    MrI: If you like I have $ volume from the start of my experimental charts. I could whip out a simple chart if you like.

     

    HardToLove
    24 Aug 2012, 10:55 AM Reply Like
  • 481086
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    I've often thought a long term chart of market capitalization (for any stock) would be an informative metric ...would really tell the tale on that particular company... but I don't think I've ever seen such a thing readily found... has anyone?
    24 Aug 2012, 11:31 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    48: using any historical daily price that allows download into spreadsheet (e.g. ETrade's web site for it customers), the closing price with shares outstanding added (basically just a long copy into cells, get the next # shares and repeat) and multiplied ought to give it to you.

     

    The hard part will be find the historical shares outstanding.

     

    HardToLove
    24 Aug 2012, 11:49 AM Reply Like
  • 481086
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    Thanks HTL, that's the answer I knew in my heart and was afraid of... ;)
    24 Aug 2012, 12:08 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND.

     

    I've put together a graph of Axion's market cap since January 2010 based on the number of shares outstanding when each of their Annual and Quarterly reports was filed.

     

    http://bit.ly/TZzUt3

     

    I've also sent a copy to the APH who may want to consider including it in the Concentrator header because frankly I was shocked.
    24 Aug 2012, 12:21 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    JP: Great (but disastrous) chart.

     

    Here's the upside: "reversion to the mean" will be *awesome*!

     

    HardToLove
    24 Aug 2012, 12:26 PM Reply Like
  • Tampa Ted
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    John,

     

    Not being as smart as most others on the board, I was wondering if you could add some commentary as to what you think this graph means.

     

    TIA.
    24 Aug 2012, 12:30 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    There was a plateau in early 2010 which was market stabilization after the big 2009 private placement. In a normal case I would have expected ramps to the upside for:

     

    1. NS in June 2010
    2. BMW in September 2010
    3. The toll contract in March 2011
    4. The DOE grant application with GM in April 2011
    5. The PJM connection in November 2011
    6. The toll contract extension in March 2011
    7. Completion of BMW testing
    8. The first NS battery order

     

    I would have expected a downdraft for the February 2012 direct public offering. I've never seen a more gruesome example of broken stock syndrome, or BSS.
    24 Aug 2012, 12:39 PM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    JP,
    Is that a representation of the valley of death that all R&D small caps must cross?
    24 Aug 2012, 12:46 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I'd say that's pretty much the hard and rocky road through the valley of death. The price decline after March of 2010 has the stock price moving in an opposite direction from the business fundamentals and the only explanation I have for the magnitude of the slump is people trying to force way more shares into an illiquid market than the market could reasonably digest.
    24 Aug 2012, 01:05 PM Reply Like
  • 481086
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    Wow, thanks John... it's definitely a chewable picture...
    24 Aug 2012, 01:06 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    The late 2009 placement went off at 57 cents. Why do you think that didn't provide a floor?

     

    The selling around 50 cents has always surprised me. Is Quercus to blame for the breach? Weren't they locked up for 2010 after the .57 placement? It's hard to see any motivation for placement investors to exit so soon after an offering. Anyhow do you think .50+ will be big resistance as the tide turns up?

     

    Then again many here will be up 50%+ at that point (lucky bottom feeders and your .30 cent buys =).
    24 Aug 2012, 01:16 PM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    JP,
    To continue with the verbal imagery, would you say that Tesla is trying to build a cantilevered bridge over the valley of death with no sound structural support other than hopium?
    24 Aug 2012, 01:17 PM Reply Like
  • magounsq
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    John

     

    Your TSC articles not as easy to track as SA...that might affect the comment numbers. (although you do appear there now...high comment numbers)
    TSC home site appears to headline top comment, most shared, editors pick...other subjective headline extracts.
    24 Aug 2012, 01:26 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    The late 2009 placement did provide a floor of 2x the private placement price for the first three months of 2010. Then we started seeing aggressive selling from parties that we were only able to identify in hindsight as the bankruptcy trustee and a busted hedge fund. That set up a fear reaction among some of the smaller 2009 buyers who decided to get out even. When one of the big holders died, Quercus started selling and Special Sits changed managers, the market was overwhelmed.
    24 Aug 2012, 01:30 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    I like the image, but think you need to put several pallets of bricks out on the very end.

     

    Did you know that a bridge that's not long enough to reach the other side is also known as a pier?
    24 Aug 2012, 01:34 PM Reply Like
  • DRich
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    >JP ... Or "The Plank" ... depending on width and whether you want to walk or drive to see what is over that edge.
    24 Aug 2012, 01:42 PM Reply Like
  • Stilldazed
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    Whooeee, a long walk on a short pier.
    24 Aug 2012, 01:46 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    I can understand the "get out even" part but the dips below .50 can only be explained by "fear" and/or severe liquidity needs.

     

    I assume Quercus was the busted hedge fund; when did they start their 2010 selling (yahoo reports only goes back to early 2011)?
    24 Aug 2012, 01:52 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    Quercus didn't start until early 2011. The busted hedge fund was the Fursa Master Global Event Driven Fund, a fund that bought preferred shares in 2006 that were converted into 2.7 million common shares in January 2010.
    24 Aug 2012, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    That makes sense. Still amazing that that few concentrated shares could kill the market. Also I see Quercus Deep 6'd us once we came up for air in early 2011.
    24 Aug 2012, 04:10 PM Reply Like
  • Jon Springer
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    for those of us with shifty memories, is there a list, or could we make a list, of which major holders (Fursa, Quercus, Special Sits, Mega C, etc) dumped shares, when, and why...

     

    I didn't know about Fursa before... unless I forgot it...

     

    as I talk to other potential new investors, a major question is *why* the share price is so beat down and *why* that trend won't continue... while I've internalized the answer for myself... a simple list might be a helpful resource for others

     

    thanks...

     

    nice couple of weeks... we'll see what next week brings...
    24 Aug 2012, 04:19 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    It's important to remember that total sell side volume for all of 2009 was only 3.6 million shares. That means 2.75 million shares from Fursa and another 550,000 from the bankruptcy trustee was like forcing a whole year of trading into the market in a couple months.

     

    That's the reason I keep pointing out that annual trading volume growth from 7.2 million in 2009 to 22 million in 2010 to 77.7 million in 2011 to 57.8 so far in 2012. The growth was all driven by supply push rather than demand pull and no market can survive that kind of weight without buckling under the strain.
    24 Aug 2012, 04:24 PM Reply Like
  • Jon Springer
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    JP

     

    understood... just looking for the whole timeline in one place so when I'm asked why I think the selling is running out of gas; and why I think the price may turn soon... I have a timeline showing what beat down Axion's price into oblivion
    24 Aug 2012, 04:28 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    The quick run from .60 to 1.20 is also confounding. Was that mostly "retail" buyers that then lost mojo once Quercus started their sell program in April 2011?

     

    I get your point about 3M+ shares being a huge pill to swallow in early 2010 when we were doing the 30k-60k days. But it seems like volume was our friend in early 2011 as the price raised on heavy volume and we were doing 300k to 600k days. Hopefully the next few months will repeat that performance.
    24 Aug 2012, 04:41 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    The identifiable events are as follows:

     

    Fursa and liquidation trust - 3.3 million starting in April 2010
    Special Situations - 8.7 million shares starting March 2011
    Quercus Trust - 8.6 million shares starting March 2011

     

    Plus up to 8.2 million shares of selling by the Estate of James Winner that started sometime after his death in September 2010 – http://bit.ly/QaR9by.

     

    Plus up to 7.2 million shares that Manatuck Hill "might" have been sold in connection with a management change in Q1 of this year.

     

    Blackrock started with 7.15 million shares and reported sales of 2 million shares before it fell off the radar.

     

    It's quite the litany, but it shows where all the selling came from.
    24 Aug 2012, 04:45 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Jon, JP has written a bunch of articles quantifying the selling by name, with known and estimated selling amts. One of the first articles I remember reading on the topic was, "An Elephant Hunter's Theory About Axion Power's Price Surge", dated 1/12/2012, on alternativeenergypicks. I was impressed that he nailed Blackrock's holding to the share. Still not sure how.

     

    That should give you an excellent start. Good luck in spreading the word, Axionista Apostle Jon.
    24 Aug 2012, 04:48 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Add to that, I think, unless they're already counted in JP's post:

     

    The 2 million shares held by the Mega-C Shareholders Trust that were turned over to the Bankruptcy Trustee evidently in 6/2012.

     

    Shares (2 million?) they previously owned and sold, per JP's stories of their "bull in a china shop" selling, although that may have been long ago (when did it occur?)

     

    801,000 total shares the two 2/3/2012 placement agents received and were allowed to sell beginning in early 8/2012.

     

    Cumulatively, flippers from the 2/3/2012 placement. Axionistas have guessed perhaps 10% - 20% of the 26.851 million shares sold in the placement.

     

    I will add that Manatuck Hill's "7,200,000 shares were transferred to street name on 6-3-10." That's the last info we have on their holding. Why do such a transfer? The only time I've ever done that is to make it easier to sell. Now. So they may have started selling back then. We don't know.
    24 Aug 2012, 05:24 PM Reply Like
  • Jon Springer
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    Thanks JP and Mr. I.

     

    I'm no apostle. Just trying to pass out the best data possible to folks to let them do their own DD and make their own choices. Apostles tell people only one side of the story ;-)

     

    If I'm right, we're at a very good investable moment, and I've voted with my own money to that end. If I'm somewhat wrong, folks are better off waiting until after the next financing to invest. If I'm seriously wrong, we'll die with the other side of the valley of death in plain view.
    24 Aug 2012, 06:07 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Jon, oops, wrong comparison I guess. Jonny AxionSeed instead? Planting thoughts and data in fertile fields?

     

    Completely agree on the moment. Impossible to time it perfectly, other than via luck. But a growing number of positive factors seem to be coming together now.
    24 Aug 2012, 06:51 PM Reply Like
  • Jon Springer
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    LOL Mr. I...

     

    I've been called a lot of things in this life... that's a pretty amusing one to add to the list of random appellations.

     

    Somewhere along the way, I figured out that one of my strongest attributes is that people way smarter than me seem to like talking to me (and vice-versa)... whether friend or stranger, I'm not sure if they like talking with me because they overrate my intelligence or find me an amusing kook... probably a bit of both... not sure which side they'll fall on in my Jonny AxionSeed capacity.
    24 Aug 2012, 08:52 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    The number was in the registration statement for the 2009 private placement shares.
    25 Aug 2012, 12:04 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Jon A---I'd settle for Idiot Savant if they put money in and keep it in for a couple years. %^}
    25 Aug 2012, 12:21 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    One last block of unknowns is the retail purchasers who bought 14 million shares in the 2009 private placement. While there's no easy way to nail down their sales, I think we have to assume that these folks eventually responded to "dead money" and a significant percentage sold.
    25 Aug 2012, 01:20 AM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    John, I can't imagine that they haven't already become part of a more normal distribution by now. I'd worry more about some concentrated effort from the more recent offering.
    25 Aug 2012, 01:44 AM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    When the price was in the low $.40s and the time between the offering and the sales was brief I was willing to assume that some of the 2012 purchasers would be willing to flip out for a 20% gain from the $.35 offering price.

     

    Now that the guys who bought at $.35 have had their money at risk for seven months instead of a couple weeks, I don't see them as big a risk.

     

    If you can invest your cash five times a year and flip it for 20% on each round the strategy works well. If you can only invest your cash once or twice a year, the 20% doesn't look so attractive once you factor in the risk of price declines.

     

    Conceptually I break holding periods down as follows:

     

    Flip – under 6 weeks
    Short-term – under 6 months
    Medium-term – under 18 months
    Long-term – over 18 months
    25 Aug 2012, 02:43 AM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Interesting. 48k bid at 31 cents by CSTI. Don't remember seeing that one--had to look. it up. They are Canaccord Genuity Securities LLC. I know their overall outfit includes security analysis and recommendations, not just market-making or brokering like many of the usual MMs we're so used to seeing here. Not saying, but...

     

    ...let the upward spiral continue
    23 Aug 2012, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    CSTI has been spotted on some Canadian junior miners, GWG if I'm not mistaken...
    23 Aug 2012, 02:22 PM Reply Like
  • alsobirdman
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    OK, everybody let's sing together,

     

    Oh happy day, Oh happy day, when Axion rose, oh when it rose....

     

    It that blasphemous?
    23 Aug 2012, 02:19 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    I wouldn't walk next to you for the next few days without rubber boots.

     

    When I was in graduate school, the school post office unfortunately assigned me p.o. box 666. I was going to have them change it, but then rationalized it was just meant to be, and that the mark of the beast is already upon me, no good fighting it. Unfortunate bit of luck, or destiny.

     

    Everyone is going to bail out of the concentrator and Axion now with that bit of news as no one will want to be associated with me.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:35 PM Reply Like
  • Occam's_Razor
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    metro: 666 was also the intraday bottom of the S&P in '09...

     

    I never pass up the opportunity to walk under a ladder, or break a mirror before tossing it into the garbage... but then again, I've been shot at by a guided missile in my younger years, but it missed....

     

    I'm merely one of many quietly watching the action in AXPW... with lots more dry powder!

     

    - Cheers to all!
    23 Aug 2012, 07:43 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    OR, That's something you'll never forget. As a person that has never served my feelings are that I can read and watch video all I want but that level of understanding will never be the same as the feeling of being under such circumstances. I've only witnessed a small part of the aftermath in real life.

     

    Much appreciated.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:52 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Lots more dry powder is music to my ears, OR!

     

    I'm fresh out. Used it all at 30.
    23 Aug 2012, 07:57 PM Reply Like
  • Occam's_Razor
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    Thanks, iindelco... the trick is to detach yourself from "reality"... which sometimes comes in handy for investing, actually... to prevent yourself from taking actions when you really need to mark time. The instinct, of course, is to do the former (take action). We will all fight our own demons as Axion heads north again. The key will be knowing when to do the latter (mark time).
    23 Aug 2012, 08:09 PM Reply Like
  • Mathieu Malecot
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    OT: sttyf.pk

     

    any thoughts?
    23 Aug 2012, 02:42 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    Mathieu,
    Excuse the neanderthal small and smooth brain, but you've lost me again.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:51 PM Reply Like
  • Mathieu Malecot
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    sandstorm energy and metals. same price as axpw now. just wondering if anyone else has looked into the company.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:59 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    I like it longer term. It also includes an interesting natural gas element... Generally, its too small and new a streamer to compete with the macro economic forces beating up base metals right now. I think this would be a good one to jump into if one saw a marked turn of fortunes from where we are short term...

     

    This one will track fairly closely to doctor copper, generally.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:04 PM Reply Like
  • nummik
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    If I had to choose between Axion or Sandstorm Metals&Energy I would go for Axion, as base metals sentiment may turn sour with business climate and depress Sandstorm Metals&Energy share price even more.
    Also as you like STO you may be interested in Peyto PEY.TO (Options available).
    23 Aug 2012, 03:05 PM Reply Like
  • SMaturin
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    No, but I have my eye on sister company, SAND, which just went big board last week from pinkies. I think Tripleblack mentioned it on another board recently, which brought it to my attention when it was still in the pink listing.

     

    http://bit.ly/SsqSFa

     

    SAND dropped 11% today. Why?
    23 Aug 2012, 03:10 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    Mathieu,
    Duh. I'm getting so used to acronyms that I don't see the obvious. Thanks for your patience.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:11 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    I discuss it in more detail on my REE/Strategic Minerals Concentrator... SAND did a stock sale to raise funds last night, so it opened lower today and the usual suspects dumped and ran. I am buying, for companies like this raise funds in these situations (they just cut a nice deal for more streaming income very recently) to replenish their warchest because they have more opportunities incoming.

     

    As a wise fellow who graces these pages so frequently opines: "You can't dilute a beer by adding a shot of whiskey".

     

    I view this as a buying opp, and I added more shares today.

     

    SAND is the opposite of companies which dilute because they are in trouble or because they lack forward looking income. Sandstorm has streams for gold (and gold equivalents) which equate to the ability to buy gold in the $300's.

     

    Canadians in particular should look into their SDXXF warrants. I bought these last April and May when they were about $.30, and they are about 4 times that now... I plan to hold into 2013 at least.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:19 PM Reply Like
  • Mathieu Malecot
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    thanks all. sttyf has so much cash... i own both but did sell 10k recently. sitting on a bit of cash right now thanks to DSX and AERL sales, even after selling cash secured puts on intc today.

     

    i'll look at PEY.TO and maybe it ends up in rotation with STO, SDRL
    23 Aug 2012, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    HTL has been rubbing off on you, I see...
    23 Aug 2012, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • FocalPoint Analytics
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    There was a dilution today.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • SMaturin
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    TB, thanks for the clarification.

     

    Looks like the drop in SAND is a nice entry opportunity.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:25 PM Reply Like
  • Tampa Ted
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    Interesting document on Septa:

     

    http://bit.ly/MP2m0j

     

    There is also a gratuitous Axion mention ...
    23 Aug 2012, 02:43 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Looks like 32 cents might not hold much longer. NITE just lifted to 33.5 cents.

     

    Edit: bid at 32 cents now.

     

    Also looks more and more like the big sellers are exhausted.
    23 Aug 2012, 02:47 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Looks like my 100 share buy at 32.5 triggered some conditional sells at 32. Sure helps to be able to watch this thing all day. Somebody with a regular job might be upset when they find out tonight that they're out now.

     

    Is interesting to note something I only really paid any attention to recently, because I'm not a trader. Conditional trades are so easy to set up now, that I think I've seen signs of them all over the place with AXPW. May be why we'll often see very quick bid-hitting after touching a new high price. What do you think, HTL?
    23 Aug 2012, 02:59 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    MrI: Wouldn't surprise me. But I would be surprised to see them in volume on a micro-cap like AXPW.

     

    Right now I think it's just TPOTSE, which if typical, should run about 3-5 trading days before a pause.

     

    MHO, with a (big) dash of ignorance included, no extra charge,
    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 03:17 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    HTL, thx, bud.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:30 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Mr. I you took me out.

     

    Only kidding. You are a fiendish one. Kind of like a mass audience interactive video game. ;))
    23 Aug 2012, 03:33 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    iinde---after I take a little bite, I slither back into the water.

     

    I got a good laugh when you said you also made some trade recently to get the volume blood flowing. That gets u consideration for the Lungfish Hall Of Fame. That'd be a nasty place to visit, though. Even I don't want to go there. Rather go to metro's Portugese beach w/ Inna.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:13 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Mr. I, No sense pointing out the obvious.

     

    "Rather go to metro's Portugese beach w/ Inna."

     

    Maybe in a couple years she wouldn't laugh at us at least!
    23 Aug 2012, 04:31 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    dam* straight. chicks dig the big stack 'o benjamins (Portugal's future currency?)

     

    Wait a second. She's Romanian. Ok, we'll watch full seasons of True Blood together.
    23 Aug 2012, 06:25 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    (AXPW): NITE sitting at $0.335x20K. TEJS $0.329x5000 offers.

     

    Bid 10K $0.325 ATDF and last trade $0.329.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 03:11 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    thanks for the updates.
    23 Aug 2012, 03:19 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    (AXPW): Just hit $0.3348 vol now 836,085. This in a burst of 5 minutes that took 122K out of sellers hands.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 03:29 PM Reply Like
  • wtblanchard
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    Wonder if good news would actually be good news at this point.

     

    Most likely: signs of NS 999 movement. Roughly a week till the end of the quarter ... surely would be nice to book em, Danno ....

     

    Aren't those NS boys back from vacation yet?

     

    coming: Hub news.

     

    Hub UL would be really good news to me, but probably ignored by many of our newer members.

     

    Turning one of those many RPFs we heard about into an order would be outstanding.

     

    Any of you bottom feeders getting nervous yet?

     

    Feeling lucky that there won't be any news soon?

     

    LOTS of folks buying up on the offer in the last couple of days.

     

    Train really ready to leave the station if we can just even a hint of good news before ADD nation moves on to something shinier.

     

    Speaking of NS, I've seen a little spurt of pics from the Altoona folks about old engines which have been stripped down (not the right term, but hopefully you get the idea.) Might be nothing, but enough to make this guy take notice ...
    23 Aug 2012, 03:56 PM Reply Like
  • John Petersen
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    It's a week and a month till the end of the September 30th quarter WTB.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:08 PM Reply Like
  • wtblanchard
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    Oops. And good ... more time to get all of them back from vacation :-)
    23 Aug 2012, 04:17 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    Also ELBC 13 will likely draw some attention toward Axion =)

     

    http://bit.ly/PKjzrd
    23 Aug 2012, 07:39 PM Reply Like
  • AlbertinBermuda
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    Abandoned my $0.20 position this afternoon as all the momentum is up. Good!
    Purchased a bit more at $0.33+ as more of a punishment than a necessity. Silly boy!
    Off the net for a few weeks but I hope that the action continues to be positive.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:00 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Albert--I gave up on my .251 bid and bought at .30 last week when the company announced the pursuit of strategic financing. That was a big piece of actionable news to me. I didn't see 20 or 25 cents coming any more.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:20 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    Well, THAT was a strong ending. Closed at the high of the day. Funny to see ARCA with the best bid and with decent volume. A different customer, I presume, than recently.

     

    Once again, volume was our friend. Almost a million shares today--975k.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Mr. I, I was wondering if the BooYaa boys were going to come in at the end.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:09 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    iinde--I hope whenever they leave, it's at, say, 40 cents, to minimize the retracement pain. Very nice that, based on several posts here, I think Axionistas and lurkers have purchased a lot during this run, too, mitigating that pain, I expect.

     

    And who knows, miracle of miracles, some of the booyahs might actually hold for awhile once they see the incredible upside that remains. Would love to have them settle into Axionistaville.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:37 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Mr. I, I think your point my be correct. Perhaps the Street article was timed perfectly to get the ball rolling and now it's got enough momentum to take out the few that gave it an initial push if they so choose. I think there is a pretty high probability John's article in a new form was like a match on dry grass given the boards suspicions on the remaining large holders exiting parties holdings.

     

    Too bad the various government stimulus packages didn't work as well.
    23 Aug 2012, 05:02 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    iinde---yeah, volume catalysts are what we REALLY needed, and we got one last week and one this week. Upward spiral begins.

     

    I expect more catalyst flow than we've had recently, too: maybe more JP TheSreet articles on AXPW, perhaps some HUB order info out of CEDIA, JP's ELBC pre-conference writing(s), the conference itself, the SAE conference early the following month, maybe NS batteries delivery, wildcards all over the place with PC, BMW's 3rd party testing results, etc. Upward spiral continues.

     

    Or we go back into a catalyst coma, but with most if not all the big selling gone. Then any good news might finally mean a bump in price that holds.

     

    Either way, those 5 analysts on the CC was no fluke, IMO--a growing number of folks know Axion's time is getting a lot closer.
    23 Aug 2012, 05:46 PM Reply Like
  • Nicholas Chen
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    "Either way, those 5 analysts on the CC was no fluke, IMO--a growing number of folks know Axion's time is getting a lot closer. "

     

    In that case, even without a catalyst we should see a steady gain from here, as these funds accumulate their shares in the absence of large sellers.
    23 Aug 2012, 06:00 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    WTB: "... before ADD nation moves on to something shinier".

     

    You nailed it. It will happen, but we have only our crystal ball to guide us towards time-frame.

     

    I'm thinking $0.35-$0.37 before we need to worry though and start rubbing the crystal ball really hard (make sure you're well grounded before reaching for a light switch though).

     

    MHO,
    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Picture of the day. Remember the bottom back there. Murky going forward but......breath.

     

    http://bit.ly/No7J1U
    23 Aug 2012, 04:06 PM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    On point, iindelco!

     

    (see my comment below)
    23 Aug 2012, 04:12 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    iindelco,
    Not to be negative, but that looks like a brick wall ahead.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:13 PM Reply Like
  • iindelco
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    Metro, It's symbolic. The path forward often looks harder than what's in the rear view mirror. And it's not as clear. Going to take some effort to tear down those walls.

     

    Maybe in a couple years you'll be sitting on that beach in Portugal and you'll catch a clear glimpse of a brick pile in the rearview mirror of an Axionized SS Bimmer when your butler gets out ask you where you'd like lunch reservations! LOL

     

    PS Skip the boa.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:27 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    more likely a several year old Hyundai with Cindy Crawford's mother-in-law riding in the passenger seat (it's as close as I could get to Cindy and I'm sure she is a wonderful lady) - with the drop in PbC Bio-carbon E3 Supercell battery. (not the mother-in-law, but the Hyundai)

     

    I like that name for the what now seems the mundanely named PbC. But I've always like the .375 Holland & Holland Belted Rimless Magnum Nitro Express name too. Adds a note of ferocity to it.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:43 PM Reply Like
  • metroneanderthal
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    Just looked AXPW chart on stockcharts.com. Pattern last few days similar to 16-18 July. However, we have more volume now and hopefully no one to cap the rally at .35 with an endless stream of selling. Would be nice to move beyond the .30's forever. Will be interesting to see if volume continues to ramp up tomorrow and if price follows.
    23 Aug 2012, 04:07 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Metro: the reason I expect at least a pause around $0.35-$0.37 is I think a lot of The Street folks are hot money types and would see 16%-20% gains hard to resist.

     

    But with more market awareness out there I could be missing "The Big Picture" entirely. Regardless, I don't expect it's the end of a run, just a normal re-trace or pause point *if* the awareness has started to spread.

     

    HardToLove
    23 Aug 2012, 06:14 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    If we can keep up the near Million "share" days then the pause will only be a speed bump. I for one can't wait till we see Million "dollar" days and over 2M shares traded. That will mean the hedgies, family office, high net worth, types are coming in. We wont see the big name institutions until this is over $1 though (and some wait till it's $5).
    23 Aug 2012, 06:22 PM Reply Like
  • Mr Investor
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    bazooooka---agree, except your last sentence. We've already seen a sub of Blackrock come in at 57 cents. Plenty of big names could get in down here. Even just one could boost the stock further, but even if a big name doesn't get in, there is so much cash looking for a high-return home it's almost unbelievable. Their replacing the bigs getting out is a mixed blessing, though, as we've seen. Concentration rsk. Me, I can't wait for the strategic investor(s), if Axion is successful in that. No flipping. Maybe no discount (even a premium is possible). Partnership tie-in. Added legitimacy. The Negotiator on our side. Retail deal buyers forced to buy on the open mkt. Good, good, good.
    23 Aug 2012, 06:50 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Bazoooka: Generally after the "Period of Exuberance" end the volume will tail off to something more reflective of a longer-term sustainable level.

     

    ATM I'm assuming that the crowd more into "Formula 1" than "Watching Grass Watching Paint Dry" won't hang around long and the folks that are heavily into investing, rather than trading, will make their moves, settle in and join the "Incubation Watch".

     

    Some new level of volume will be found, possibly, and the open question, to me, is when and what level.

     

    So for now, I feel safer expecting "the worst". When we get there we'll be better able to gauge I think.

     

    Having said that, allowing that John's effects might be longer-term, I chose "at least a pause", which might conceivably be perceived as a "speed bump".

     

    So I did the CYA th