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Aug. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Two years after credit markets seized up and caused the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, companies are hoarding the most cash in at least a decade.
“Every action we take or contemplate taking is measured by its impact on our balance sheet and liquidity,” Mark Jacobs, the chief executive officer of Houston-based RRI Energy Inc., told analysts and investors on Aug. 3. The company sold its Texas retail electricity business and the Reliant brand name in May, helping triple cash and equivalents from a year earlier to 18 percent of assets, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Even as government reports show that the first global recession since World War II may be easing, corporate treasurers are raising cash as fast as they can, wary of losing access to capital. Corporate defaults reached 10.7 percent worldwide in July, the highest since 1991, according to Moody’s Investors Service. Credit markets that started to freeze in August 2007, have now triggered more than $1.5 trillion in writedowns and losses at the world’s biggest financial institutions.
Cash and short-term investments accounted for about $1.98 trillion, or 8.2 percent, of assets at the end of the second quarter for companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500 index, up from about $1.6 trillion, or 6.4 percent, a year earlier, Bloomberg data show. Cash reached a record $2 trillion in the first quarter, 8.3 percent of assets.
‘Cash is King’
“Cash is king,” said Paul Kasriel, the chief economist at Northern Trust Corp. in Chicago. “Businesses are in survival mode right now.”
While companies sold a record $837.9 billion of bonds this year and raised $109.8 billion in stock offerings, the increase in cash shows they are following the lead of consumers, who pushed the U.S. savings rate to a 14-year high of 6.2 percent in May.
“There’s going to be a generational psychology shift as to how you and I and the rest of the world think about finance,” said Jonathan Fine, a managing director on the investment-grade syndicate desk at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in New York. “People will keep cash on hand so long as what happened in the last two years remains so visible in the rearview mirror.”
General Electric Co., the world’s biggest maker of power- plant turbines, increased cash and short-term investments at the fastest pace in 14 years in the second quarter, to $97.5 billion, or 12.5 percent of assets, from $64.9 billion, or 7.7 percent, a year earlier, Bloomberg data show.
The Fairfield, Connecticut-based company raised about $49 billion this year with unsecured and government-guaranteed debt through its GE Capital Corp. finance arm as CEO Jeffrey Immelt began boosting cash after the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in September.
‘Stress Testing’
“We’ve done a lot of stress testing in terms of making sure we’ve got sufficient liquidity, sufficient cash,” Kathryn Cassidy, GE’s treasurer, said in an interview.
That wasn’t the thinking until defaults on subprime mortgages made to consumers with poor credit began accelerating in 2007, causing losses on securities backed by the loans. Concern that the contagion would spread led investors to rein in credit.
The asset-backed commercial paper market contracted about 20 percent in five weeks from its peak in August 2007. Paris- based BNP Paribas SA said it halted withdrawals from three investment funds on Aug. 9 because France’s largest bank couldn’t “fairly” value their holdings. High-yield, high-risk companies such as Plainview, New York-based Aeroflex Inc., a maker of testing gear for the aerospace and defense industries, were forced to delay or cancel bond sales.
Market Collapse
That month, the Federal Reserve, in a surprise move, cut the interest rate it charged banks. It would ultimately lower its target rate for overnight loans between banks to between zero and 0.25 percent from 5.25 percent.
As the financial crisis spread, New York-based Lehman Brothers, which was founded in 1850, filed for the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history. The government bailed out American International Group Inc. and Citigroup Inc., while Bear Stearns Cos. and Merrill Lynch & Co. were acquired. The government assumed control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the nation’s two biggest mortgage-finance companies.
The collapse of so many financial giants worsened the credit freeze. Rates banks charged each other for three-month loans soared about fourfold to a record 4.63 percentage points more than Treasury bills of the same maturity on Oct. 10 from 1.17 percentage point a month earlier.
‘Road to Hell’
Speculative-grade companies, those with ratings below Baa3 by Moody’s and BBB- at S&P, got shut out of the bond market as the extra yield investors demanded to own their debt soared to more than 20 percentage points above Treasuries, according to Merrill indexes. Before the markets collapsed, the spread was less than 3 percentage points.
“It’s been a road to hell,” said Pat Freeman, treasurer of Calgary-based Agrium Inc., North America’s third-largest fertilizer producer. The company saw its shares tumble to as low as $23.31 from a high of $112.45 in June 2008. They closed at $49.12 last week. “You never know when the market might shut down on you.”
Unprecedented steps by the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve halted the slide as they spent, lent or committed $12.8 trillion to revive the economy, Bloomberg data show.
Access to credit still remains limited for companies that need it the most. Defaults may rise to 12.2 percent worldwide in the fourth quarter, according to Moody’s. Commercial and industrial loans fell to $1.48 trillion at the end of July, down 11 percent from a peak of $1.65 trillion in October, Fed data show.
Record Bond Sales
Yield spreads on junk bonds ended last week at 8.57 percentage points on average, Merrill data show. For investment- grade companies, the difference is 2.54 percentage points. While down a record 6.56 percentage points in December, it’s above the average 1.42 points this decade before the credit seizure.
Even with the relatively high rates, U.S. corporate bond issuance in the first half rose 11 percent from the previous record pace in 2007, as businesses repaid short-term loans, Bloomberg data show. Stock sales were about double the same period of 2007.
“The days of excessive leverage are over,” said Scott Minerd, who helps supervise more than $100 billion as chief investment officer of Guggenheim Partners LLC in Santa Monica, California. “Having term financing in place and not having yourself be vulnerable to a refinancing event is an important feature in every balance sheet.”
Signs the recession is easing may encourage companies to spend more cash, said Howard Silverblatt, a senior index analyst at S&P in New York.
“Once they believe the economy is getting better and not just less worse, they’ll start spending,” Silverblatt said.
Jobs Report
The economy is showing signals of improving. Payrolls fell by 247,000 in July, after a 443,000 loss in June, the Labor Department said Aug. 7 in Washington. The jobless rate unexpectedly dropped to 9.4 percent from 9.5 percent.
The recession may have ended in July, said Jeffrey Frankel, a member of the committee at the National Bureau of Economic Research that dates business cycles. The median estimate of 60 economists surveyed by Bloomberg is for growth of 2.10 percent in 2010, after a contraction of 2.50 percent this year.
“Confidence is improving but there are still a lot of people who are nervous,” Ronald Millos, chief financial officer of Vancouver-based Teck Resources Ltd., Canada’s largest base- metals producer, said in an interview.
Teck eliminated its annual dividend last year, fired employees and reduced capital spending “to the bone” to bolster the confidence of lenders and investors, Millos said.
Higher Yields
The company sold $4.23 billion of notes in U.S. dollars in May at interest rates as high as 10.75 percent to retire short- term borrowing that funded last year’s purchase of Fording Canadian Coal Trust. When Teck issued $700 million of debt in 2005, it paid a coupon of 6.125 percent.
Pitney Bowes Inc., the world’s largest maker of postal meters, replaced commercial paper -- debt due in nine months or less -- with bonds after Lehman’s collapse reduced the availability of short-term financing. The company sold $300 million of 10-year, 6.25 percent bonds on March 2 at a spread of 3.38 percentage points. The average rate on 30-day commercial paper sold by non-financial companies ended last week at 0.15 percent, according to the Fed.
“Our approach in general changed in the sense of giving ourselves a lot more event-risk protection,” said Helen Shan, vice president and treasurer at Stamford, Connecticut-based Pitney Bowes.
NRG Opportunity
RRI’s decision to sell its Texas energy provider freed up almost $3 billion of capital, Jacobs said. It also presented an opportunity for NRG Energy Inc., which snapped up the business for $288 million, said Robert Flexon, chief financial officer at the Princeton, New Jersey-based power producer. The purchase boosted NRG’s earnings by $233 million, according to a July 30 regulatory filing.
“When you look back on the market over the last year, if you’re going to make a mistake, it’s to have too much liquidity,” Flexon said in an interview. “In an environment like this, where liquidity is tight, the opportunities for investment are probably at their peak.”
NRG had about 8.4 percent cash as a percentage of assets on its balance sheet in the second quarter, up from 4.9 percent the previous period and 4.7 percent a year earlier, Bloomberg data show. The company sold $700 million of 10-year, 8.5 percent notes on June 2 priced to yield 5.06 percentage points more than similar-maturity Treasuries.
The last two years “really showed the importance of maintaining adequate cash and liquid investments so you’re not relying solely on banks,” Flexon said. “We carry cash balances today of over $1 billion. We invest that primarily in U.S. government-backed overnight securities, so it’s an extremely liquid investment.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Bryan Keogh in New York at bkeogh4@bloomberg.net; John Detrixhe in New York at jdetrixhe1@bloomberg.net
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> When you are Diabetic and have Macular Degeneration in progress, > you have a tendency to scour the world looking for "cures". Shots > to the Eyeball aren't pleasant. So I'm more interested in Diabetic > news. > > That's how I got hooked on the "Med" site. Just added Swine Flu to > the News I receive. > > eg www.medicalnewstoday.c...
Credit Suisse came out with a neutral rating for Rentech, and forecast a decline in price to $1.00 per share. They're positive on the fertilizer biz, but skeptical about the company finding needed financing (outside of government) for biofuels biz. Oh boy, Roubini and Taleb were both on CNBC at the same time. Now that's a cheery duo!
I'm not trading much now. I took some profits off the table in the last few weeks, holding onto the dividend core positions with hedges, and trying to figure out if the other shoe is going to drop.
I just had dinner with a very interesting fellow the other night. He owns several thousand acres and is about to develope one of the largest iron ore mines in the US. The property also has high levels of rare earth metals.
When I mentioned that I had purchased some tellurium as an investment, his eyes lit up. He is about to appear before congress on this subject and he is very concerned.
The Chinese are gobbling up rare earth metals at a blinding rate. He says they are cornering the market and the entire world will be dependent on them when the economies of the world eventually emerge from this Great Recession.
He knows Jack Lipton and says that he feels pretty much the same way.
I'm doubling my efforts to find investment opportunities in this area. Let me know if you have any favorites.
Yellowhoard: I started researching it and I dropped the ball. I found one good article that lists some public companies, here's the link: www.hardassetsinvestor... I also found a company that sells it directly (I don't know if you used them to buy it) called American Elements. You can order on line. I haven't bought any, mostly because it's toxic. Do you have to take precautions when you store it? I guess the easiest way to play it is to short First Solar!
i went back and looked at the elliot wave link with pretcher (sp) the other day. i am not a one stop shop so i thought it prudent to go back and analyze.
if i am not mistaken this is the same guy who kept saying gold was in a bubble at $300 and all the way up. he has been wrong for 8 years in a row on currencies - and will continue being so- i think.
now i wish i had more answers because this would make everything much easier. LME trader i am in contact with on a continuous basis even gave jaded answers. had stop at 919 and dropped almost a quarter of GC Z09 contracts and moved stop to 893. thought THIS was the low but hey i am not risking it. today could be interesting. hopefully will just give me an opportunity on the cheap.
think there will be a continuous rise breakout at 1009
OG, Yup, American Elements will ship tellurium ingots in a vacuum packed plastic package.
According to my new iron ore friend, ingots are safe. It's the powder you've got put the hazmat suit on for.
Scrooge, I've read opposing viewpoints on FSLR and tellurium. Yes, FSLR is entirely dependant on tellurium. However, it seems to be a very small part of it's cost structure. I'm still trying to find out what price will be the tipping point for FSLR vs. other solar producers that use no tellurium.
Oh, by the way, I have no exit strategy for tellurium. I told my new friend this and he just laughed. If it becomes as valuable as I think it will, FSLR will gladly buy all that I have.
I'm taking a bath on pnpff too, but I'm just going to hold onto it. I read an article some months back that stated venture capitalists are particularly unloved right now, but they are picking up companies for a song, and this is the time to buy. I truly believe that. I only have 1300 shares, so it's a buy and forget about it, at least for now. If the market tanks, I'll probably buy more. In the back of my mind, I always think of that long-term chart. They went down to around $.30, if I remember right. It could go to almost worthless, but they are investing in areas that have real long term value, and microcaps aren't for investors who get spooked easily.
DMYDY. I'm researching it now. I wish I understood more about those clinical trials and the Food and Drug Administration! Any place I can read a quick tutorial?
> You've got me. Ever since the FDA got rabbit punched by Merck, its > like watching Tree Sap harden into Amber. > > The European Trial results and news out of Europe should be followed > not the FDA. Simply put, you are more likely to get unconventional > treatment in Europe for a Terminally Ill person than Here. Farrah > Fawcett was such a case.
3 August 2009 CNMC TRANSACTION UPDATE Lynas Corporation Limited (ASX: LYC) provides the following further update concerning the equity investment by China Nonferrous Metal Mining (Group) Co., Ltd (“CNMC”) that was announced on 1 May 2009. Lynas understands that the Australian Foreign Investment Review Board (“FIRB”) has not yet made a decision concerning the transaction, and therefore the 30 day time period for FIRB review of the transaction will now expire in early September 2009. There has been no change to the agreed terms of the CNMC transaction, as announced on 1 May 2009. Both parties remain committed to the CNMC transaction. As announced on 31 July 2009, Lynas has sufficient cash at bank to cover Lynas’ cash flow requirements until approximately mid-October 2009. Lynas is in advanced discussions concerning a contingency structure to cover Lynas’ cash flow requirements. Such a contingency structure would only be needed to cover Lynas’ cash flow requirements if there is a further delay in the transaction timetable beyond that specified above. Further details will be provided at the time that the contingency structure is finalized.
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Treasurers’ Fear of Next Credit Freeze Shown in Cash Hoarding 23 comments
By Bryan Keogh and John Detrixhe
Aug. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Two years after credit markets seized up and caused the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression, companies are hoarding the most cash in at least a decade.
“Every action we take or contemplate taking is measured by its impact on our balance sheet and liquidity,” Mark Jacobs, the chief executive officer of Houston-based RRI Energy Inc., told analysts and investors on Aug. 3. The company sold its Texas retail electricity business and the Reliant brand name in May, helping triple cash and equivalents from a year earlier to 18 percent of assets, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.
Even as government reports show that the first global recession since World War II may be easing, corporate treasurers are raising cash as fast as they can, wary of losing access to capital. Corporate defaults reached 10.7 percent worldwide in July, the highest since 1991, according to Moody’s Investors Service. Credit markets that started to freeze in August 2007, have now triggered more than $1.5 trillion in writedowns and losses at the world’s biggest financial institutions.
Cash and short-term investments accounted for about $1.98 trillion, or 8.2 percent, of assets at the end of the second quarter for companies in the Standard & Poor’s 500 index, up from about $1.6 trillion, or 6.4 percent, a year earlier, Bloomberg data show. Cash reached a record $2 trillion in the first quarter, 8.3 percent of assets.
‘Cash is King’
“Cash is king,” said Paul Kasriel, the chief economist at Northern Trust Corp. in Chicago. “Businesses are in survival mode right now.”
While companies sold a record $837.9 billion of bonds this year and raised $109.8 billion in stock offerings, the increase in cash shows they are following the lead of consumers, who pushed the U.S. savings rate to a 14-year high of 6.2 percent in May.
“There’s going to be a generational psychology shift as to how you and I and the rest of the world think about finance,” said Jonathan Fine, a managing director on the investment-grade syndicate desk at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. in New York. “People will keep cash on hand so long as what happened in the last two years remains so visible in the rearview mirror.”
General Electric Co., the world’s biggest maker of power- plant turbines, increased cash and short-term investments at the fastest pace in 14 years in the second quarter, to $97.5 billion, or 12.5 percent of assets, from $64.9 billion, or 7.7 percent, a year earlier, Bloomberg data show.
The Fairfield, Connecticut-based company raised about $49 billion this year with unsecured and government-guaranteed debt through its GE Capital Corp. finance arm as CEO Jeffrey Immelt began boosting cash after the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. in September.
‘Stress Testing’
“We’ve done a lot of stress testing in terms of making sure we’ve got sufficient liquidity, sufficient cash,” Kathryn Cassidy, GE’s treasurer, said in an interview.
That wasn’t the thinking until defaults on subprime mortgages made to consumers with poor credit began accelerating in 2007, causing losses on securities backed by the loans. Concern that the contagion would spread led investors to rein in credit.
The asset-backed commercial paper market contracted about 20 percent in five weeks from its peak in August 2007. Paris- based BNP Paribas SA said it halted withdrawals from three investment funds on Aug. 9 because France’s largest bank couldn’t “fairly” value their holdings. High-yield, high-risk companies such as Plainview, New York-based Aeroflex Inc., a maker of testing gear for the aerospace and defense industries, were forced to delay or cancel bond sales.
Market Collapse
That month, the Federal Reserve, in a surprise move, cut the interest rate it charged banks. It would ultimately lower its target rate for overnight loans between banks to between zero and 0.25 percent from 5.25 percent.
As the financial crisis spread, New York-based Lehman Brothers, which was founded in 1850, filed for the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history. The government bailed out American International Group Inc. and Citigroup Inc., while Bear Stearns Cos. and Merrill Lynch & Co. were acquired. The government assumed control of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the nation’s two biggest mortgage-finance companies.
The collapse of so many financial giants worsened the credit freeze. Rates banks charged each other for three-month loans soared about fourfold to a record 4.63 percentage points more than Treasury bills of the same maturity on Oct. 10 from 1.17 percentage point a month earlier.
‘Road to Hell’
Speculative-grade companies, those with ratings below Baa3 by Moody’s and BBB- at S&P, got shut out of the bond market as the extra yield investors demanded to own their debt soared to more than 20 percentage points above Treasuries, according to Merrill indexes. Before the markets collapsed, the spread was less than 3 percentage points.
“It’s been a road to hell,” said Pat Freeman, treasurer of Calgary-based Agrium Inc., North America’s third-largest fertilizer producer. The company saw its shares tumble to as low as $23.31 from a high of $112.45 in June 2008. They closed at $49.12 last week. “You never know when the market might shut down on you.”
Unprecedented steps by the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve halted the slide as they spent, lent or committed $12.8 trillion to revive the economy, Bloomberg data show.
Access to credit still remains limited for companies that need it the most. Defaults may rise to 12.2 percent worldwide in the fourth quarter, according to Moody’s. Commercial and industrial loans fell to $1.48 trillion at the end of July, down 11 percent from a peak of $1.65 trillion in October, Fed data show.
Record Bond Sales
Yield spreads on junk bonds ended last week at 8.57 percentage points on average, Merrill data show. For investment- grade companies, the difference is 2.54 percentage points. While down a record 6.56 percentage points in December, it’s above the average 1.42 points this decade before the credit seizure.
Even with the relatively high rates, U.S. corporate bond issuance in the first half rose 11 percent from the previous record pace in 2007, as businesses repaid short-term loans, Bloomberg data show. Stock sales were about double the same period of 2007.
“The days of excessive leverage are over,” said Scott Minerd, who helps supervise more than $100 billion as chief investment officer of Guggenheim Partners LLC in Santa Monica, California. “Having term financing in place and not having yourself be vulnerable to a refinancing event is an important feature in every balance sheet.”
Signs the recession is easing may encourage companies to spend more cash, said Howard Silverblatt, a senior index analyst at S&P in New York.
“Once they believe the economy is getting better and not just less worse, they’ll start spending,” Silverblatt said.
Jobs Report
The economy is showing signals of improving. Payrolls fell by 247,000 in July, after a 443,000 loss in June, the Labor Department said Aug. 7 in Washington. The jobless rate unexpectedly dropped to 9.4 percent from 9.5 percent.
The recession may have ended in July, said Jeffrey Frankel, a member of the committee at the National Bureau of Economic Research that dates business cycles. The median estimate of 60 economists surveyed by Bloomberg is for growth of 2.10 percent in 2010, after a contraction of 2.50 percent this year.
“Confidence is improving but there are still a lot of people who are nervous,” Ronald Millos, chief financial officer of Vancouver-based Teck Resources Ltd., Canada’s largest base- metals producer, said in an interview.
Teck eliminated its annual dividend last year, fired employees and reduced capital spending “to the bone” to bolster the confidence of lenders and investors, Millos said.
Higher Yields
The company sold $4.23 billion of notes in U.S. dollars in May at interest rates as high as 10.75 percent to retire short- term borrowing that funded last year’s purchase of Fording Canadian Coal Trust. When Teck issued $700 million of debt in 2005, it paid a coupon of 6.125 percent.
Pitney Bowes Inc., the world’s largest maker of postal meters, replaced commercial paper -- debt due in nine months or less -- with bonds after Lehman’s collapse reduced the availability of short-term financing. The company sold $300 million of 10-year, 6.25 percent bonds on March 2 at a spread of 3.38 percentage points. The average rate on 30-day commercial paper sold by non-financial companies ended last week at 0.15 percent, according to the Fed.
“Our approach in general changed in the sense of giving ourselves a lot more event-risk protection,” said Helen Shan, vice president and treasurer at Stamford, Connecticut-based Pitney Bowes.
NRG Opportunity
RRI’s decision to sell its Texas energy provider freed up almost $3 billion of capital, Jacobs said. It also presented an opportunity for NRG Energy Inc., which snapped up the business for $288 million, said Robert Flexon, chief financial officer at the Princeton, New Jersey-based power producer. The purchase boosted NRG’s earnings by $233 million, according to a July 30 regulatory filing.
“When you look back on the market over the last year, if you’re going to make a mistake, it’s to have too much liquidity,” Flexon said in an interview. “In an environment like this, where liquidity is tight, the opportunities for investment are probably at their peak.”
NRG had about 8.4 percent cash as a percentage of assets on its balance sheet in the second quarter, up from 4.9 percent the previous period and 4.7 percent a year earlier, Bloomberg data show. The company sold $700 million of 10-year, 8.5 percent notes on June 2 priced to yield 5.06 percentage points more than similar-maturity Treasuries.
The last two years “really showed the importance of maintaining adequate cash and liquid investments so you’re not relying solely on banks,” Flexon said. “We carry cash balances today of over $1 billion. We invest that primarily in U.S. government-backed overnight securities, so it’s an extremely liquid investment.”
To contact the reporters on this story: Bryan Keogh in New York at bkeogh4@bloomberg.net; John Detrixhe in New York at jdetrixhe1@bloomberg.net
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On Aug 11 04:58 AM Freya wrote:
> When you are Diabetic and have Macular Degeneration in progress,
> you have a tendency to scour the world looking for "cures". Shots
> to the Eyeball aren't pleasant. So I'm more interested in Diabetic
> news.
>
> That's how I got hooked on the "Med" site. Just added Swine Flu to
> the News I receive.
>
> eg www.medicalnewstoday.c...
Oh boy, Roubini and Taleb were both on CNBC at the same time. Now that's a cheery duo!
I'm not trading much now. I took some profits off the table in the last few weeks, holding onto the dividend core positions with hedges, and trying to figure out if the other shoe is going to drop.
I just had dinner with a very interesting fellow the other night. He owns several thousand acres and is about to develope one of the largest iron ore mines in the US. The property also has high levels of rare earth metals.
When I mentioned that I had purchased some tellurium as an investment, his eyes lit up. He is about to appear before congress on this subject and he is very concerned.
The Chinese are gobbling up rare earth metals at a blinding rate. He says they are cornering the market and the entire world will be dependent on them when the economies of the world eventually emerge from this Great Recession.
He knows Jack Lipton and says that he feels pretty much the same way.
I'm doubling my efforts to find investment opportunities in this area. Let me know if you have any favorites.
I started researching it and I dropped the ball. I found one good article that lists some public companies, here's the link:
www.hardassetsinvestor...
I also found a company that sells it directly (I don't know if you used them to buy it) called American Elements. You can order on line.
I haven't bought any, mostly because it's toxic. Do you have to take precautions when you store it?
I guess the easiest way to play it is to short First Solar!
i went back and looked at the elliot wave link with pretcher (sp) the other day. i am not a one stop shop so i thought it prudent to go back and analyze.
if i am not mistaken this is the same guy who kept saying gold was in a bubble at $300 and all the way up. he has been wrong for 8 years in a row on currencies - and will continue being so- i think.
now i wish i had more answers because this would make everything much easier. LME trader i am in contact with on a continuous basis even gave jaded answers. had stop at 919 and dropped almost a quarter of GC Z09 contracts and moved stop to 893. thought THIS was the low but hey i am not risking it. today could be interesting. hopefully will just give me an opportunity on the cheap.
think there will be a continuous rise breakout at 1009
seekingalpha.com/artic...
metalsplace.com/news/a.../
YH did you invest in the physical metal? Sourcing this stuff is not easy.
According to my new iron ore friend, ingots are safe. It's the powder you've got put the hazmat suit on for.
Scrooge, I've read opposing viewpoints on FSLR and tellurium. Yes, FSLR is entirely dependant on tellurium. However, it seems to be a very small part of it's cost structure. I'm still trying to find out what price will be the tipping point for FSLR vs. other solar producers that use no tellurium.
On Aug 12 10:06 AM Freya wrote:
> Lynas, LYSCF, rare earth development? with interest from China.
On Aug 12 10:05 AM optionsgirl wrote:
> This is funny. I think all of our links went to the same damn article!
I own a few thousand shares of LYSCF.
It's got to be on the Chinese radar.
The market seems toppy here, so I'll wait and see. If we get another big selloff, I'll add a few thousand more shares at lower levels.
seekingalpha.com/artic...
On Aug 14 07:24 AM Freya wrote:
> You've got me. Ever since the FDA got rabbit punched by Merck, its
> like watching Tree Sap harden into Amber.
>
> The European Trial results and news out of Europe should be followed
> not the FDA. Simply put, you are more likely to get unconventional
> treatment in Europe for a Terminally Ill person than Here. Farrah
> Fawcett was such a case.
3 August 2009
CNMC TRANSACTION UPDATE
Lynas Corporation Limited (ASX: LYC) provides the following further update concerning the equity investment by China Nonferrous Metal Mining (Group) Co., Ltd (“CNMC”) that was announced on 1 May 2009.
Lynas understands that the Australian Foreign Investment Review Board (“FIRB”) has not yet made a decision concerning the transaction, and therefore the 30 day time period for FIRB review of the transaction will now expire in early September 2009. There has been no change to the agreed terms of the CNMC transaction, as announced on 1 May 2009. Both parties remain committed to the CNMC transaction.
As announced on 31 July 2009, Lynas has sufficient cash at bank to cover Lynas’ cash flow requirements until approximately mid-October 2009. Lynas is in advanced discussions concerning a contingency structure to cover Lynas’ cash flow requirements. Such a contingency structure would only be needed to cover Lynas’ cash flow requirements if there is a further delay in the transaction timetable beyond that specified above. Further details will be provided at the time that the contingency structure is finalized.
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