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PERSONALLY, I DON’T EXPECT much financial drama over the next year. Stocks seem only a touch expensive relative to earnings. Earnings seem normal as a share of the economy. Powerful deflationary and inflationary forces (lax consumer demand and looming money creation, respectively) are offsetting each other, and should do so until world economic growth heats up, perhaps a year from now. And the dollar seems wobbly, but no more so than currencies that compete as a store of the world’s winnings.
I could easily be wrong about any or all of these things, though. Stock prices and earnings spent several years too high, and so might now plunge to depths that are too low by the same degree. Emerging economies might grow fast enough to spur energy, food and metal inflation, even if rich countries stagnate. America might create so much money that the dollar plunges in value. For investors who fear the worst, and who wish to make protective or pessimistic investments, here’s a round-up of ones that don’t require options or futures trading, physical asset storage or the opening of foreign accounts. All are exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, which can be bought and sold like stocks in ordinary brokerage accounts.
Make Money If Stocks Plunge
The market is more likely to rise than fall on any given day. The longer you hold a broad basket of stocks, the better your chances of profiting. With inverse or bear funds, just the opposite is true. They’re meant as short-term bets on a decline in stock prices, and are unlikely to pay off as long-term holdings. That means investors needn’t agonize over slight differences in management expenses; an extra two-tenths of a percentage point per year compounds considerably over 20 years, but doesn’t mean much over one summer.
Start by choosing an index. Broad-market ones like the S&P 500 or Russell 2000 are fine for generally pessimistic strategies. There are also style indexes, if you think, say, stocks with high price/earnings ratios (growth stocks) will get hit harder than ones with low P/Es in the market’s next leg down. (That’s just what happens during most market downturns, but it hasn’t happened so far during this one.) Most of these funds are available with or without leverage. Levered bear funds try to produce double or triple the underlying indexes’ movements, but in the opposite direction.
Three warnings on leverage: First, needless to say, it multiplies risk. On Tuesday market averages jumped 2.4% to 3.5%, merely on news that consumers in a survey guessed conditions would improve in coming months. A skeptic might say that consumers are only more chipper because stocks have risen in recent weeks, and that their mood shouldn’t thus be used to predict yet more stock movements, but the point is, it doesn’t take too many perplexingly bullish days to hurt a levered bear investor. Second, levered funds are usually tuned to daily index performance, not yearly performance. Depending on market volatility, those amplified daily returns might compound to well higher or well lower than the indexes return over weeks, months or years. Third, bear funds in general aren’t great for minimizing taxes, since they’re for short-term bets, but levered bear funds especially spew out heaps of taxable gains during “good” years, because the derivative contracts that power them don’t enjoy the same tax benefits as stocks.
Have a look at some bets against stocks on this table, and then move on to inflation.
Gold is too often touted as the best protection against inflation. I’ve argued before that its price is mostly linked to doomsayer speculation, not actual industrial demand, making gold a poor choice for the job. If prices soar, the world might believe more in gold, but it won’t need more gold. Better to buy diversified metals ETFs like the ones listed below, along with ETFs that track energy and food prices. (Again, I list these as options for betting on raging inflation, not as recommendations. I think we’re ultimately headed for heightened, but not runaway inflation, and that the best hedge is stocks, especially cheap ones attached to dividend-paying companies that sell needed goods.) If you’re not sure which basket of commodities will see the most inflation (and you’re not), opt for a broad commodity ETF that holds all of them.
For the dollar’s value to drop, it must do so relative to something. A decline relative to the price of goods is simply a restatement of inflation, covered above. But the dollar can lose value relative to other currencies, too. To protect against that, use ETFs to either bet against the dollar or for some other currency. Note that dollar bear ETFs necessarily bet on other currencies, usually a basket of them. You can accomplish the same thing by buying funds that bet on the currencies of rich nations, emerging economies, geographic regions and so on. Finally, you can buy a fund that purchases currencies associated with high interest rates while shorting ones with low interest rates. Such “carry trade” funds net holders attractive interest rates, and rise in value if the high interest rates force currency-boosting frugality while the low ones allow currency-damaging profligacy.
Currency ETFs and ETNs (Exchange-Traded Notes)
Ticker
Type
* These currencies are officially tied to the dollar, making the note a bet these countries will revalue their currencies, allow them to float freely or link them to other currencies. ** This fund buys the three highest-yielding and shorts the three lowest-yielding among Group of 10 currencies (U.S. dollars, euros, Japanese yen, Canadian dollars, Swiss francs, British pounds, Australian dollars, New Zealand dollars, Norwegian krone and Swedish krona).
Another meltdown for banks, once credit card and commercial real estate losses worsen: ProShares UltraShort Fianncials (SKF: 44.88, +1.85, +4.29%) or Rydex Inverse 2X S&P Select Sector Financial (RFN: 10.79, +0.44, +4.25%).
Consumers becoming even less able to afford niceties: ProShares UntraShort Consumer Goods (SZK: 66.55, -0.24, -0.35%)
Weak U.S. consumption taking exporters down with us: ProShares UltraShort MSCI Emerging Markets (EEV:22.37, +0.47, +2.14%) and UltraShort MSCI Japan (EWV: 57.78, -1.76, -2.95%)
A spike in interest rates, once America’s foreign creditors tire of seeing their meager yields erased by dollar losses (see story): ProShares UltraShort 20+ Year Treasury (TBT: 54.17, +0.58, +1.08%) or Direxion Daily 30-Year Treasury Bear 3X Shares (TMV: 85.66, +1.68, +2.00%).
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YH: Your suggestion to buy some eev was excellent, thank you. I am in the money on the 22 calls and the 23 calls are rising nicely. I saw this article and thought it is a handy list of ways to hedge.
I'm watching the S & P, too. 944 resistance. If it breaks thru 944 and closes above that, I think we will see another pop to the upside. If it doesn't... Hello, Bear. The 3 month chart tells the story.
read an entire research paper on FAZ and the ridiculous nature of 3x ETF. interesting stuff. gist of the paper was negative and it is a fools game...but hey im gonna hold onto mine until end of summer. fundamentals obviously in our favor- im not a technician.
OG-
much appreciated on currency ETF. work mostly with futures but have colleagues interested in currency ETFs. good info
Mono- look thru Cliff Wachtel's articles on etf's on SA. I think he might have written about the issues of 3x. I know someone did, I remember reading about it, and it wasn't that long ago. Glad you liked this article. I liked it too, I used to write lists with all that stuff, and then a bunch of etf's were taken off the market, so it's nice to have something current.
I'll only hold FAZ for maybe a week. I figured it would only shoot up around options x or not at all. The EEV, I'll hold longer. The SRS calls I'll probably stick with for at least a month. I'm way up over 50% on them already and see more upside than down.
Your right about triple leverage. It's not the sort of thing you buy and forget about.
On Jun 18 10:50 PM Mono wrote:
> YH- > > read an entire research paper on FAZ and the ridiculous nature of > 3x ETF. interesting stuff. gist of the paper was negative and it > is a fools game...but hey im gonna hold onto mine until end of summer. > fundamentals obviously in our favor- im not a technician. > > OG- > > much appreciated on currency ETF. work mostly with futures but have > colleagues interested in currency ETFs. good info
If you have the stomach for it or don't follow it Daily, You actually Can buy an ETF and forget about it. I look at them the same way I look at individual stocks.
What matters is the Chart and the Trend, daily/weekly contractions can happen at any point. But if the Chart doesn't indicate a change in Trend, you will get out and Never get back in or you will wind up paying more when you try to get back in.
Take the Banking Sector, If you seriously believe that Nationalization will occur, FAZ is a buy and Hold. Otherwise FAS is the route to go. The TARP paybacks have assured me that The Banking Sector will not only survive but will really thrive in an environment where lendors borrow at low rates and Lend at ennormously higher rates. The Move up in Long term yields on Treasuries assures that profitability.
Congress passed it consumer "friendly" Credit Card regs., but they are also very friendly to the Bottom Line for Banks, They won't issue Credit Cards to every Tom, Dick and Jane walking past their doors, Credit will go where Credit worthiness lies. And High Credit Card defaults will be a thing of the Past.
I'm holding FAS for the Next year at a Minimum, Target Upper Teens. DAG ditto but maybe higher.
Oren Samuelson? Hard to see the spelling on a Radio Show, especially with one eye.
Just got back into DAG. A word of warning though, DAG is an ETN and is a slave to the stability and credit worthiness of the issuer. In another meltdown situation, I would likely sell my position for safety, even if commodities were rising.
I'm out of FAZ and would not recomend holding any triple leverage ETF for over a week. FAS and FAZ will eat you alive over an extended period of time. I've thought about shorting both simultaneously.
Hey, guys, why wouldn't you buy (or sell) options on fas and faz? You've got the leverage working with you, so you can invest much less $ for an equivalent position and have staying power? I'm no lover of etn's, but that's what I'd consider, first. If the position works in your favor, you can exercise the call or put, buy the stock and sell it for an arbitrage opportunity. (And please, no lectures on what arbitrage Really means. You both know what I am talking about.)
So, who has heard of EMP? It's not a stock ticker. It's a way of killing electrical infrastructure. go to pajamas tv and click on their 4 minute video about electromagnetic pulse. This is as interesting as a Tom Clancy novel.
Very nice article - good information Thanks Did a recent bit of research on EMP in '08 An EMP pulse generated from a detonation 180mi above the center of the US would instantly destroy tech and thrust the country to the center of the abyss. All tech; gone! Try accessing brokerage, financial resources/data then. Gives a whole new meaning to "cash is king". Interesting though, contrary to popular opinion, it would appear cars and trucks are more resistant to the effects of EMP than seems logical given all the semiconductors in them these days. www.wnd.com/index.php?... www.globalsecurity.org...
For personal electronic asset protection, an easy and cheap Faraday's cage will preserve electronics from such an event. At least the electronics on your end. Public networks would likely be toast. standeyo.com/News_File...
OK, this question just shows how dumb I am. Let's say a person has a defribrillator ( I don't even know how to spell it) for heart troubles. Those things use a phone to check if it's been triggered. Would that mean the defribrilator would burn out, right in someone's chest?
> Very nice article - good information > Thanks > Did a recent bit of research on EMP in '08 > An EMP pulse generated from a detonation 180mi above the center of > the US would instantly destroy tech and thrust the country to the > center of the abyss. All tech; gone! Try accessing brokerage, financial > resources/data then. Gives a whole new meaning to "cash is king". > Interesting though, contrary to popular opinion, it would appear > cars and trucks are more resistant to the effects of EMP than seems > logical given all the semiconductors in them these days. > www.wnd.com/index.php?...;pageId=72801 > www.globalsecurity.org... > > > For personal electronic asset protection, an easy and cheap Faraday's > cage will preserve electronics from such an event. > At least the electronics on your end. Public networks would likely > be toast. > standeyo.com/News_File...
Many of our Communication Hubs are in "Hardened" buildings built to withstand EMP effects, as is NORAD, the Nerve Centers of the Pentagon, etc. The whole System won't go down. Most of this was done during the "Cold" War.
I believe one was used in the Ocean's 11 movie to fry the lights in Vegas. Small, easy to put into a truck and transport.
If I wanted to put the Fear of God into Iran or North Korea's leadership, I would start by resurfacing "old" weapons Technology. Leaking it to the Media and having them run with it, a blast from the Past, the Neutron Bomb.
On Jun 25 11:18 AM optionsgirl wrote: > thanks for sharing your sources!
optionsgirl My pleasure, and glad they were of interest. Significant threat or not, we must all look out for each other or no one will. Right? If you do a search for Norman Dodd on video.google.com Topic: 1953 U.S. Congressman Carrol Reece - The Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations - I bet you will also find that of interest. Here is his Bio "During or after the 1929 stock market crash he was assigned by his superiors the task of restructuring the bank he was working at" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Also, I Love free exchange of thoughts and ideas I read an article on the disruption to pace makers, so I assume your concern is valid optionsgirl.
one eye: Yes, but most infrastructure is not hardened. Server farms, Co Los - routers - grid power - your personal DSL/T1/Cable interface what have you - and on and on it goes. So if it were to occur, The whole System may not go down, but hardened network access for the "little guy" is likely to be non existent.
Also, I Love free exchange of thoughts and ideas I read an article on the disruption to pace makers, so I assume your concern is valid optionsgirl.
one eye: Yes, but most infrastructure is not hardened. Server farms, Co Los - routers - grid power - your personal DSL/T1/Cable interface what have you - and on and on it goes. So if it were to occur, The whole System may not go down, but hardened network access for the "little guy" is likely to be non existent.
Not sure how the heck that happened - sorry for the double post there. I promise I will not do it again ;-( Dang - now triple post with this explanation. Guess sometimes I'm a technodunce early in the mor. Now I feel stupid/human. but on the bright side, I can share that google vid link video.google.com/video...
Aye Aye, Eye - too funny, yes my mouse is sensitive. It seems the great issue here is when a EM pulse with sufficient force is generated then readily conducted through devices to the tune of about 10 kvolts for only a millisecond or so, it zaps the ICs and other components which is what the Faraday cage would prevent. CMOS semiconductors are especially vulnerable. There are not enough, if any, unaffected replacements available to get going again considering how everything that does anything has a chip these days. It seems probable that just the radiation (assuming nuke detonation) alone would halt normal satellite communication capabilities for a time. Also, a cage will not be nearly as effective if the device is networked. The cable is a conduit to the device internals. Literally, we are talking back to the horse and buggy days in an instant if this actually happened. The effectiveness is dependent on High Power, short wavelength of the pulse. Starvation follows, unless the world feeds 300mil Americans for free - for a long time. Don't know how likely any of this is, but considering how dependent we are for Maslow's hierarchy of needs on everything but ourselves, it would be prudent to hedge on that a bit whatever the events.
Though, whatever is coming for us all soon it seems it is not good. optionsgirl has good info here to work with. Bank the dough. Convert a percentage to truly tangible worthy assets. Less we are not able to get our hands on it (our dough) or buy things in time if the s hits the fan.
"The purpose of an EMP is not to radiate, destroy buildings or cook people. It just fries everything electronic so that nothing works. Nothing...Not trains, not planes, not automobiles. No lights, no water pumping, no tv, no refrigeration, no gas, no food...Yet, not killing off the population...At least not immediately..."
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7 Strategies for Profiting Off the Next Downturn by Jack Hough 24 comments
This article was written on May 27th by Jack Hough for smartmoney.com.
ON THE STREET by Jack Hough (Author Archive)7 Strategies for Profiting Off the Next Downturn
Inverse (Bear) Stock ETFs Ticker Benchmark Type Leverage? SH S&P 500 Large company no SDS S&P 500 Large company 2X BGZ Russell 1000 Large company 3X RWM Russell 2000 Small company no TWM Russell 2000 Small company 2X TZA Russell 2000 Small company 3X SJF Russell 1000 Value Value 2X SFK Russell 1000 growth Growth 2X
Commodity ETFs Ticker Commodity IAU, GLD Gold SLV, DBS Silver DBB Aluminum, zinc, copper DBA Corn, wheat, soy beans, sugar DBO, USO Oil DBE Light sweet crude, heating oil, Brent crude, gasoline, natural gas GSG Agriculture (approx. 24%), metals (11%), energy (65%) RJI Agriculture (approx. 35%), metals (21%), energy (44%) DJP Agriculture (approx. 36%), metals (30%), energy, (34%)
Currency ETFs and ETNs (Exchange-Traded Notes) Ticker Type * These currencies are officially tied to the dollar, making the note a bet these countries will revalue their currencies, allow them to float freely or link them to other currencies. UDN Dollar bear (against euro, Japanese yen, British pound, Canadian dollar, Swedish krona and Swiss franc) FXE, ERE, ERO Euro ULE, URR Euro 2X FXY, JYF Yen YCL Yen 2X FXB, EGB, GBB Pound FXC, CUD Canadian dollar FXM Mexican peso BNZ New Zealand dollar BZF Brazilian real CYB, CNY Chinese yuan SZR South African rand SZE Swiss franc INR Indian rupee FXS Swedish krona FXA Australian dollar JEM Emerging markets PGD * HK dollar, Singapore dollar, Saudi Arabia riyal, United Emirates dirham, Chinese yuan DBV ** Carry trade (G10)
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PERSONALLY, I DON’T EXPECT much financial drama over the next year. Stocks seem only a touch expensive relative to earnings. Earnings seem normal as a share of the economy. Powerful deflationary and inflationary forces (lax consumer demand and looming money creation, respectively) are offsetting each other, and should do so until world economic growth heats up, perhaps a year from now. And the dollar seems wobbly, but no more so than currencies that compete as a store of the world’s winnings.
I could easily be wrong about any or all of these things, though. Stock prices and earnings spent several years too high, and so might now plunge to depths that are too low by the same degree. Emerging economies might grow fast enough to spur energy, food and metal inflation, even if rich countries stagnate. America might create so much money that the dollar plunges in value. For investors who fear the worst, and who wish to make protective or pessimistic investments, here’s a round-up of ones that don’t require options or futures trading, physical asset storage or the opening of foreign accounts. All are exchange-traded funds, or ETFs, which can be bought and sold like stocks in ordinary brokerage accounts.
Make Money If Stocks PlungeThe market is more likely to rise than fall on any given day. The longer you hold a broad basket of stocks, the better your chances of profiting. With inverse or bear funds, just the opposite is true. They’re meant as short-term bets on a decline in stock prices, and are unlikely to pay off as long-term holdings. That means investors needn’t agonize over slight differences in management expenses; an extra two-tenths of a percentage point per year compounds considerably over 20 years, but doesn’t mean much over one summer.
Start by choosing an index. Broad-market ones like the S&P 500 or Russell 2000 are fine for generally pessimistic strategies. There are also style indexes, if you think, say, stocks with high price/earnings ratios (growth stocks) will get hit harder than ones with low P/Es in the market’s next leg down. (That’s just what happens during most market downturns, but it hasn’t happened so far during this one.) Most of these funds are available with or without leverage. Levered bear funds try to produce double or triple the underlying indexes’ movements, but in the opposite direction.
Three warnings on leverage: First, needless to say, it multiplies risk. On Tuesday market averages jumped 2.4% to 3.5%, merely on news that consumers in a survey guessed conditions would improve in coming months. A skeptic might say that consumers are only more chipper because stocks have risen in recent weeks, and that their mood shouldn’t thus be used to predict yet more stock movements, but the point is, it doesn’t take too many perplexingly bullish days to hurt a levered bear investor. Second, levered funds are usually tuned to daily index performance, not yearly performance. Depending on market volatility, those amplified daily returns might compound to well higher or well lower than the indexes return over weeks, months or years. Third, bear funds in general aren’t great for minimizing taxes, since they’re for short-term bets, but levered bear funds especially spew out heaps of taxable gains during “good” years, because the derivative contracts that power them don’t enjoy the same tax benefits as stocks.
Have a look at some bets against stocks on this table, and then move on to inflation.
Profit From Soaring Consumer PricesGold is too often touted as the best protection against inflation. I’ve argued before that its price is mostly linked to doomsayer speculation, not actual industrial demand, making gold a poor choice for the job. If prices soar, the world might believe more in gold, but it won’t need more gold. Better to buy diversified metals ETFs like the ones listed below, along with ETFs that track energy and food prices. (Again, I list these as options for betting on raging inflation, not as recommendations. I think we’re ultimately headed for heightened, but not runaway inflation, and that the best hedge is stocks, especially cheap ones attached to dividend-paying companies that sell needed goods.) If you’re not sure which basket of commodities will see the most inflation (and you’re not), opt for a broad commodity ETF that holds all of them.
Cash In on a Dollar CrashFor the dollar’s value to drop, it must do so relative to something. A decline relative to the price of goods is simply a restatement of inflation, covered above. But the dollar can lose value relative to other currencies, too. To protect against that, use ETFs to either bet against the dollar or for some other currency. Note that dollar bear ETFs necessarily bet on other currencies, usually a basket of them. You can accomplish the same thing by buying funds that bet on the currencies of rich nations, emerging economies, geographic regions and so on. Finally, you can buy a fund that purchases currencies associated with high interest rates while shorting ones with low interest rates. Such “carry trade” funds net holders attractive interest rates, and rise in value if the high interest rates force currency-boosting frugality while the low ones allow currency-damaging profligacy.
** This fund buys the three highest-yielding and shorts the three lowest-yielding among Group of 10 currencies (U.S. dollars, euros, Japanese yen, Canadian dollars, Swiss francs, British pounds, Australian dollars, New Zealand dollars, Norwegian krone and Swedish krona).
Bet On Other Assorted MayhemAnother meltdown for banks, once credit card and commercial real estate losses worsen: ProShares UltraShort Fianncials (SKF: 44.88, +1.85, +4.29%) or Rydex Inverse 2X S&P Select Sector Financial (RFN: 10.79, +0.44, +4.25%).
Consumers becoming even less able to afford niceties: ProShares UntraShort Consumer Goods (SZK: 66.55, -0.24, -0.35%)
Weak U.S. consumption taking exporters down with us: ProShares UltraShort MSCI Emerging Markets (EEV:22.37, +0.47, +2.14%) and UltraShort MSCI Japan (EWV: 57.78, -1.76, -2.95%)
A spike in interest rates, once America’s foreign creditors tire of seeing their meager yields erased by dollar losses (see story): ProShares UltraShort 20+ Year Treasury (TBT: 54.17, +0.58, +1.08%) or Direxion Daily 30-Year Treasury Bear 3X Shares (TMV: 85.66, +1.68, +2.00%).
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I'm bearish right now and have hedged my longs, mostly weak dollar plays, by buying Oct SRS out of the money calls, FAZ and EEV.
So far so good. If we get a 10% retracement in the S&P, I'll sell 2/3rds of these hedges and see what happens with the rest.
Hello, Bear. The 3 month chart tells the story.
read an entire research paper on FAZ and the ridiculous nature of 3x ETF. interesting stuff. gist of the paper was negative and it is a fools game...but hey im gonna hold onto mine until end of summer. fundamentals obviously in our favor- im not a technician.
OG-
much appreciated on currency ETF. work mostly with futures but have colleagues interested in currency ETFs. good info
futures give way to margin...leveraged ETF are a pseudo margin
thanks again
Your right about triple leverage. It's not the sort of thing you buy and forget about.
On Jun 18 10:50 PM Mono wrote:
> YH-
>
> read an entire research paper on FAZ and the ridiculous nature of
> 3x ETF. interesting stuff. gist of the paper was negative and it
> is a fools game...but hey im gonna hold onto mine until end of summer.
> fundamentals obviously in our favor- im not a technician.
>
> OG-
>
> much appreciated on currency ETF. work mostly with futures but have
> colleagues interested in currency ETFs. good info
If you have the stomach for it or don't follow it Daily, You actually Can buy an ETF and forget about it. I look at them the same way I look at individual stocks.
What matters is the Chart and the Trend, daily/weekly contractions can happen at any point. But if the Chart doesn't indicate a change in Trend, you will get out and Never get back in or you will wind up paying more when you try to get back in.
Take the Banking Sector, If you seriously believe that Nationalization will occur, FAZ is a buy and Hold. Otherwise FAS is the route to go. The TARP paybacks have assured me that The Banking Sector will not only survive but will really thrive in an environment where lendors borrow at low rates and Lend at ennormously higher rates. The Move up in Long term yields on Treasuries assures that profitability.
Congress passed it consumer "friendly" Credit Card regs., but they are also very friendly to the Bottom Line for Banks, They won't issue Credit Cards to every Tom, Dick and Jane walking past their doors, Credit will go where Credit worthiness lies. And High Credit Card defaults will be a thing of the Past.
I'm holding FAS for the Next year at a Minimum, Target Upper Teens. DAG ditto but maybe higher.
Oren Samuelson? Hard to see the spelling on a Radio Show, especially with one eye.
I'm out of FAZ and would not recomend holding any triple leverage ETF for over a week. FAS and FAZ will eat you alive over an extended period of time. I've thought about shorting both simultaneously.
So, who has heard of EMP? It's not a stock ticker. It's a way of killing electrical infrastructure. go to pajamas tv and click on their 4 minute video about electromagnetic pulse. This is as interesting as a Tom Clancy novel.
Thanks.
What's scarier to me though is the idea of North Korea as a cutout for another country that wishes us ill.
I don't think North Korea is capable of pulling it off. But China or Iran could pull it together for them, or make it look like they did it.
Poof! New number one. China.
Poof! Death of the Great Satan. Iran.
Thanks
Did a recent bit of research on EMP in '08
An EMP pulse generated from a detonation 180mi above the center of the US would instantly destroy tech and thrust the country to the center of the abyss. All tech; gone! Try accessing brokerage, financial resources/data then. Gives a whole new meaning to "cash is king". Interesting though, contrary to popular opinion, it would appear cars and trucks are more resistant to the effects of EMP than seems logical given all the semiconductors in them these days.
www.wnd.com/index.php?...
www.globalsecurity.org...
For personal electronic asset protection, an easy and cheap Faraday's cage will preserve electronics from such an event.
At least the electronics on your end. Public networks would likely be toast.
standeyo.com/News_File...
On Jun 25 06:04 AM Sphira wrote:
> Very nice article - good information
> Thanks
> Did a recent bit of research on EMP in '08
> An EMP pulse generated from a detonation 180mi above the center of
> the US would instantly destroy tech and thrust the country to the
> center of the abyss. All tech; gone! Try accessing brokerage, financial
> resources/data then. Gives a whole new meaning to "cash is king".
> Interesting though, contrary to popular opinion, it would appear
> cars and trucks are more resistant to the effects of EMP than seems
> logical given all the semiconductors in them these days.
> www.wnd.com/index.php?...;pageId=72801
> www.globalsecurity.org...
>
>
> For personal electronic asset protection, an easy and cheap Faraday's
> cage will preserve electronics from such an event.
> At least the electronics on your end. Public networks would likely
> be toast.
> standeyo.com/News_File...
I believe one was used in the Ocean's 11 movie to fry the lights in Vegas. Small, easy to put into a truck and transport.
If I wanted to put the Fear of God into Iran or North Korea's leadership, I would start by resurfacing "old" weapons Technology. Leaking it to the Media and having them run with it, a blast from the Past, the Neutron Bomb.
> thanks for sharing your sources!
optionsgirl
My pleasure, and glad they were of interest. Significant threat or not, we must all look out for each other or no one will. Right? If you do a search for Norman Dodd on video.google.com Topic: 1953 U.S. Congressman Carrol Reece - The Reece Special Committee on Tax Exempt Foundations - I bet you will also find that of interest. Here is his Bio
"During or after the 1929 stock market crash he was assigned by his superiors the task of restructuring the bank he was working at"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...
Take Care
Peace,
Sphira
I Love free exchange of thoughts and ideas
I read an article on the disruption to pace makers, so I assume your concern is valid optionsgirl.
one eye:
Yes, but most infrastructure is not hardened. Server farms, Co Los - routers - grid power - your personal DSL/T1/Cable interface what have you - and on and on it goes. So if it were to occur, The whole System may not go down, but hardened network access for the "little guy" is likely to be non existent.
Peace,
Sphira
I Love free exchange of thoughts and ideas
I read an article on the disruption to pace makers, so I assume your concern is valid optionsgirl.
one eye:
Yes, but most infrastructure is not hardened. Server farms, Co Los - routers - grid power - your personal DSL/T1/Cable interface what have you - and on and on it goes. So if it were to occur, The whole System may not go down, but hardened network access for the "little guy" is likely to be non existent.
Peace,
Sphira
I promise I will not do it again ;-(
Dang - now triple post with this explanation. Guess sometimes I'm a technodunce early in the mor.
Now I feel stupid/human. but on the bright side, I can share that google vid link
video.google.com/video...
Do we know how an EMP will affect Wireless comunication? Communication Sattelites which have been shielded against Radiation?
I don't know, just asking
It seems the great issue here is when a EM pulse with sufficient force is generated then readily conducted through devices to the tune of about 10 kvolts for only a millisecond or so, it zaps the ICs and other components which is what the Faraday cage would prevent. CMOS semiconductors are especially vulnerable. There are not enough, if any, unaffected replacements available to get going again considering how everything that does anything has a chip these days. It seems probable that just the radiation (assuming nuke detonation) alone would halt normal satellite communication capabilities for a time. Also, a cage will not be nearly as effective if the device is networked. The cable is a conduit to the device internals. Literally, we are talking back to the horse and buggy days in an instant if this actually happened. The effectiveness is dependent on High Power, short wavelength of the pulse. Starvation follows, unless the world feeds 300mil Americans for free - for a long time. Don't know how likely any of this is, but considering how dependent we are for Maslow's hierarchy of needs on everything but ourselves, it would be prudent to hedge on that a bit whatever the events.
Though, whatever is coming for us all soon it seems it is not good. optionsgirl has good info here to work with. Bank the dough. Convert a percentage to truly tangible worthy assets. Less we are not able to get our hands on it (our dough) or buy things in time if the s hits the fan.
This (EMP) has already sort of happed in 1962 with STARFISH
glasstone.blogspot.com...
"The purpose of an EMP is not to radiate, destroy buildings or cook people. It just fries everything electronic so that nothing works. Nothing...Not trains, not planes, not automobiles. No lights, no water pumping, no tv, no refrigeration, no gas, no food...Yet, not killing off the population...At least not immediately..."
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