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Axion Power Concentrator 9: Beginning Sept. 7 2011 171 comments
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FWIW the first hour of trading volume today (363.400 shares) is up more than 50% over yesterday (226,400 shares). Yesterday's second hour was the big one because it included some pretty big blocks, but it looks like we may have another interesting day.
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HardToLove
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One hour in an empty parking lot with me instructing and I could see she was a "natural".
Her current vehicles are automatics, but she still enjoys the control of the manul with a clutch. That will likely not be in her future much as she and her husband are expecting their first child in November.
HardToLove
www.hubcapcafe.com/ocs...
Hard to happen sooner or later as the state of the art in control electronics, fluids and clutches advanced.
And if the CVT (Continuously Variable Transmission) continues to evolve to improve on its unique set of problems, the disparity should continue to grow.
HardToLove
online.wsj.com/article...
I manage another account averaged at .73. At .42 they were down $3200 on a $7500 investment. At .68 they are only down $500 and change. Only true believers in Axion's future (or fools) stand up to these kind of numbers.
I'm a stock newbie (1 year +), but I've had the help of a great friend with mucho experience when times have been particularly rough. Quercus's latest 850K registration was particularly demoralizing to me, but he and JP pointed out they would soon be gone and have little impact. That was at around .52 and I feared we were going back into the .4x's again.
We should have a "Mayascribe's Getting Timid But Still Buying Indicator."
This is the rare stock where my lowball price target came home to roost ($.69 at one point) and cost me some money, but I still like the stock, and if my $.56 shares end up being near the bottom of an upward spike, I'll be happy about it. I have been picking up some $.6x shares recently to add to them, too...
My portfolio has contracted from 2 pages to about 2/3 of a page on my printouts, but I have added AXPW back when others were cashed out.
In for the long haul from here.
Someday ZBB just might be able to make a profit. I live in hope ;-)
The concerning part is that 7.6% of the volume (~54.3K) occurred in the last 16 minutes and took us from $0.675 down to close at $0.651.
Weakening into the close on noticeable volume suggests to me that some (semi-day?) traders accounted for *some* buying pressure yesterday and exited with $ in hand at EOD when they saw that we could not push through $0.68 (remember that I *thought* this might be a *weak* resistance point - may still work out that way - follow-on will tell us).
Here's my thinking ATM. The folks that are on-board with the importance of the white paper and the coming R&R presentation already made their move yesterday or prior. Likely medium-to-long term traders or genuine investors were the majority. But I'm thinking there's also a substantial percentage that are momentum players when I combine yesterday's and today's behavior.
If that's the case, momentum players will hold sway the next day or two and if we don't see substantial additional move up, we're likely to see selling pressure as these momentum folks rake their profits and move on to the next opportunity.
In that case, I expect $0.62 or so in the next couple of days.
IMO, an excellent entry or add range for the longer-term folks and/or folks that believe a trade around the conference results is a good risk.
What the pattern looks like *if* we see that range (and if we don't) might give further clues. If we don't continue upward I would like to see continued reducing volume with a high and tight flag (best case) forming or mildly sloping flag down to the ~$0.62 level if we go that way. Both are continuation patterns telling us the move up is likely to resume.
BTW, I know most folks here are longer-term investors. If this sort of minutiae is less useful here, please let me know - I'll take no offense at all. I just habitually operate in "brain dump" mode, too often without forethought.
HardToLove
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Axion made a couple of Hot Stocks lists yesterday/today.
Investors' Live (scroll to the bottom of the page):
www.investorslive.com/...
Day Trading Stock Blog (AXPW #18)
daytradingstockblog.bl...
Please continue. Enjoy reading your comments/analysis.
How'd you know I'm a sucker for a <snicker> bar"?
HardToLove
I wish I was a fly on the wall of Tom G's office. I wonder who they are getting phone calls from these days?
And I normally mentally convert to candlestick as needed and catch those things.
That's one of the reasons I value the "aggregate effort" so highly - there's just too much for one to be able to remember every consideration every time, but "in aggregate" we can cover all the bases.
Thanks again for the reminder.
HardToLove
D
It's a long slog for me, but I've noticed (I *think*) improvement in my performance as I've learned more about both the TA stuff and about "fundamentals" of stuff and things really new to me, like economics, politics, market behavior, ... all of which are still "an enigma in a box in ..." for me in many ways.
My tenacity is all that keeps me from running screaming into the night as when I started in late '07 I thought just picking good companies was all that was needed to do well.
I learned a hard few lessons subsequent to that, "obliviously". =>8-O
HardToLove
You, Maya, Hillbilly and others have added tremendously to John's articles. So, thank you from a mostly lurker.
If you'll all indulge some bloviating, my philosophy is:
It's seems dangerous to follow "strict" technical analysis unless you're an experienced trader.
It seems even more dangerous to follow strict fundamental analysis because in a way it's just technical analysis of the current and future value of a company. That's a lot harder. How many of us can read and understand the earnings and cash flow statements, and predict with great certainty what the market for a product will be like in one, let alone five years. (Fortunately, we have John in this case.)
The best recommendation I have heard is to use fundamental analysis to pick a company to invest in ("Axion is SO undervalued!") and technical analysis to choose a point to get in. ("I should buy now, it just bounced off a support.").
Have a plan before you buy for when you will sell. This is the hardest part for me.
Most of all:
Love your wife, your children and your dog, not your stock.
I guess I'll settle for loving my new Brazilian Select Cherry hardwood floors and my Christmas cactus plant.
Excellent bloviating, Renzo.
HTL can attest that I'm very much a technical trader. We've emailed, discussed, charted, chatted, disagreed and agreed more times than I can count.
But, I'm also a corporate story investor. And Axion's story I do indeed love. There's conflict and passion. Growing pains and challenges. There's frustration and patience.
What's really fun is that we're barely past the prologue, with a compelling future ahead of us. The day Axion zips past 5 bucks, I'll be lovin' that, too.
Yeah, what Renzo said ....
HT Love & Bang, please continue the TA talk, as a nubie
I am learning a lot from you both and am fascinated with
learning to read & understand the "gauges" of the market.
It's the reason I believe I will never cease learning. And it also means I *may* be well-suited for this as I'm most satisfied when learning new stuff constantly and having to integrate seemingly-disparate stuff (as I like to say, my mind is a strong associative processor - but not yet in all these areas).
HardToLove
Can I borrow yours? I seem to have trouble forgetting even the little failures, much less the "biggies".
It can be aggravating. I know I'm supposed to learn from them and move forward, but those negative items keeping rearing their ugly little heads!
HardToLove
finance.yahoo.com/q/mh...
John: I'm trying to find BlackRock's holdings. I can't on Yahoo! Finance.
And I'm only a smidge away from equaling them still.
Sort of destroys my image of "institutional".
Heh, makes me almost want to convert my remaining trading block to an investment so I rank right up there with (what I thought was) "The Big Boys"! ;-))
HardToLove
I still want to now what happened to BlackRock.
investors.morningstar....
I sold my $3.00 Bank of America at $6. Good for me. Bad for me.
I sold my $2.00 Ford at $4.00
Good for me. Very Bad for me.
I sold My $3.00 Exide at $5.50.
I sold my $4.50 Exide at $9.00
Stock charts mean nothing. They don't tell you when a high is high enough.
They don't tell you when low won't go lower.
They are simply charts of the past and have very little to do with the events of the future.
I have traded on them. Made money. Lost money.
But nothing compares to buying low in a disruptive technology that is manufacturing product in a future market worth multi-Billions of product.
I have no idea when to sell my large Axion holdings. I expect many to sell when it hit hits $5 per share. John has said he hopes for a top of $10 per share. All I know is that these answers will come after orders are put in. Additional electrode lines are put in. Additional Capitol is put in.
Until then. I'm standing pat.
It was a lot of fun, and a lot of hard work; almost every waking moment six days a week, and about four hours on Sunday, too. And I will admit, there were several times I got clobbered.
But as I realized I was competing against HFTs, and that the markets were not soaring, I pulled back from doing sometimes as many as 150 trades in a month. With the recent intraday swings of 200-300 points, and overnight futures swinging wildly, it's become ever harder to keep track.
I've also heard many pro traders on TV state this market is really difficult to trade.
I will say, though, that today I put in a trade on Cemex (CX)--a cement outfit. I recognized a bottom was being put in last week from indicators such as Williams%R, MACD and RSI, plus a few others. That combined with Obama's jobs speech tomorrow makes this trade nearly a no-brainer.
Since I have little dry powder in my gamer account--it's nearly all in with Axion--I'm not able to make the kinds and numbers of trades I've in the past made.
Guess the result? I've a tad more free time these days.
For now I am happy to see myself as a VC and what worry me most is unable to load up enough Axion shares before the inflection point showing up from nowhere.
AMEX, I believe has a minimum share price of $1.00.
Typically, reverse splits, say for 3 shares you end up with 1, at three times the value, don't go well.
Citi did this a while back and the stock is down a lot (due to market conditions and the US suing the banks).
A classic case near and dear to me was when Ener1 did a reverse split, I believe 8:1, and the stock took off from there, all while John thought I was a knothead for owning the stock in the first place!
Another cause for a reverse split is to stay listed on an exchange. Beacon Power (BCOND) did this a while back, and they may have to do it again, because their stock has once again sunk under a buck. I was looking at that stock today, and with this in mind, I did not buy any, even though the technicals right now are showing a screaming buy.
Hope this helps.
I can't believe they even bother to mention an institutional holder that only has 10,000 shares. Heck, I've got more than that in my IRA and I'm nobody!! :-)
What got me thinking was a friend that traded in the early 90's told me I'd know Axion had arrived when you see it splitting. I understand that a split is warranted when price gets too high and/or volume drops so a lower price brings in smaller investors. This makes sense, in particular, if the company has stock on the shelf it wants to sell.
The other reason is that price is out of kilter with the sector peer group. That's the one that has me stumped. I guess I'm trying to figure out just who Axion would be a peer of. The business product and the business model are quite unique. Would Li-on manufacturers be the peer group? The other LA manufacturers? Ultrabattery is the closest thing in the market place and I don't see them as much competition. I could be completely wrong and peers would niche market competitors like Maxwell, Beacon & Capstone.
Once Axion is up and growing, the common wisdom says that a stock's price is 50% determined by its sector performance. The big boys trade in baskets. I guess I'm looking for a yard stick to measure by to forecast by. I apologize for not making myself clear or maybe this is just a mental exercise in stupid on my part. I do get confused easily.
Went through a similar situation with ALTI where they did a 4:1 reverse split to keep themselves on the NASDAQ, since you're required to stay over $1.00/share there too. The stock went up a little just after the reverse and then tanked when they started the process of selling a majority share of the company to Cannon, a Chinese investment firm, for a price that was a full dollar less than what the reverse was for. Needless to say the stock tanked again and is now only slowly recovering. Last time I willing agree to a reverse split.
As for a stock being worth $100, when their peers are worth $30, it does indeed behoove the shareholders to have a split occur.
Perhaps the most famous recently, was Berkshire Hathaway splitting hugely, so that commoners like me can afford their ~ $70 per pricing.
Your friend was very correct. The day Axion does a split will be a day my heirs enjoy greatly. Axion will indeed have arrived by then.
I wouldn't worry about any splitting for years to come.
www.sec.gov/Archives/e...
Still, anyone got a clue who Axion would consider a member of it's peer group?
They seem to have done a fine job of positioning themselves as unique and carrying some of the highest valuation multiples in the sector.
www.ehow.com/list_5904...
DRich: Thanks heaps for asking a question that launched me on an information quest.
Axion's current market cap is $55.6 million, its equity is $15.1 million and the market value of the float is over $15 million. The only standard it doesn't meet is the $2 minimum bid.
Nasdaq is very horsey about it's minimum bid requirement and insists on 90 days at or above with no temporary retreats. Amex is far simpler to live with and can be satisfied in as little as 30 days.
Given my druthers I'd take Nasdaq over Amex, but I certainly see no harm in doing a two-step process to get there – start with the Amex and upgrade when you can.
BCON and ZBB come to mind. They have different products and are pursuing different niches but they are all still relative newcomers and all stand to benefit from JP's 'energy storage mega-trend' caused by permanently high energy prices.
An Axion peer is any junior energy storage company.
D
Talking of selling AXPW is way early. I know that. I was simply pointing out that Technical analysis, for a company this small, probably isn't much help. I commend anyone who can make money using it. I have left way to much money on the table, in the past, when trying to sell into a technical top. But it is an infectious hobby.
Mr. Petersen,
I'm confused by the assertion of yours that you need a stock price of over $4 to be listed on the Nasdaq? ALTI is currently listed on the Nasdaq and their share price is $1.20. When they were down to $0.64 the company asked for a 4:1 reverse split from the shareholders because Nasdaq rules required them to get back above $1.00 within 90 days or lose their listing. Even after the reverse split we were still only in the $2-3 dollar range. So is it that you need to be above $4 for the initial listing, because you only need to stay above $1 to stay listed?
www.nasdaq.com/about/n...
Once a company is listed on the Nasdaq, it has to maintain a minimum bid price of $1 or it will be subject to delisting. The continued listing standards are set forth on page 5.
In other words, it's much harder to get a Nasdaq listing than it is to keep one.
Don't I also recall you saying somewhere else that it's almost advantageous that Axion is an OTC.BB stock right now, instead of being listed on one of the major exchanges, because the cost for legal and auditing to keep one in compliance for those exchanges can often run a company at least $500,000/year? Seems a no brainer for an R&D company that doesn't like to spend money it doesn't have to.
finance.yahoo.com/news...
Earnings to be released prior to market open this morning. This conference call should answer questions about the China expansion agreement and the acceptance of the product into the marketplace.
We may someday need separate concentrators for some of our other favorites: zbb, bcon, xide.
D
If it's in your portfolio on SA, they e-mail you a link if you've signed up for such.
HardToLove
So far looks to be heading towards lower volume as it re-traces, as I hoped.
HardToLove
You definitely called that one with your TA yesterday. Keep it coming, I really like seeing the updates on volume and trades, and I am learning a lot. I suppose a lot of people are going to need to see it climb above the .6x range and stay there for a while before they really "believe" this is the true start of its ascent to $1+
I've been thinking about the catalysts that might appear down the road and the effect on price. Foregoing all we've discussed, I'm making an assumption that we will be well above $1 by 2nd quarter of 2012.
Another catalyst then becomes *possible* that I've not heard discussed - inclusion in one of the Russell indexes. Now, there's not $1 requirement that I know of, but another stock I'm following, (GWMGF) had that benefit last June. It went from a close of $0.61 on 6/16 to a close of $1.04 on 7/26. It has since dropped back to its more appropriate price range.
I had observed this behavior before with (CPST) and was able to alert my cohorts as soon as we knew it was being *considered* for inclusion. I took my profits just 4 pennies off that close (the hihg intra-day was $1.06 so I missed a bit).
I wanted to mention this as I believe the catalysts between now and that June period will put AXPW in the running for inclusion and a likely inclusion when the final list is published.
The bump that would be *almost* certain is due to many funds that track the Russell indexes rebalancing to match the new composition.
I know it's a bit early to be thinking of that, but this is one of the things that TA of charts could not yet possibly include that I think is a real possibility *if* Axion progresses as we all think it might!
As to "You definitely called that one with your TA yesterday", just remember, "One Aw Shit wipes out 1000 Atta Boys"! Right now I'm *waaaaayyyy* behind in "Atta Boys"! :-((
HardToLove
If you're looking at GWMGF, you might consider as an alternative Alkane Resources (ALK on ASX, ANLKY or ALKEF on OTC). They have heavy and light rare earths, but more importantly they have large zirconium and niobium resources as well as gold. They are within about two years of production. Here's their most recent investor presentation:(www.alkane.com.au/pres...)
Don't want to get any further off track on Maya's forum.
Renzo
My problem ATM is dry powder. I have to rotate out of something to rotate into something else. This is a side-effect of my commitment to (AXPW), (CPST), mostly, and being "po' folk".
I've been in and out of GWM and Lynas and taken profits on both at various times. Right now I'm just in very lightly in GWM to track it and looking for another entry point for a small Lynas position again.
I've found the big movers in REE much more difficult to do TA on as they are so very volatile with lots of gap moves and subject not only to sentiment but also currency fluctuations, the "What's the Hype on MCP and lockbox Status", etc.
So I'm really cautious with them until I see they have some sustained trend going on.
Thanks for mentioning though! It's that willingness to help another that I value on these "boards".
HardToLove
Lurking for more low $.6x shares for AXPW...
Hard: Excellent call yesterday about the downward move today.
With AXPW's linkup to BMW, I wonder if upgrading the battery might have someting to do with "laser headlights"?
SWAG: Since laser headlights would reduce the stress on a battery, I'm not sure what effect it would have to make the PbC a better choice. What I'd like to know about this BMW concept car is if it will be stop/start, and of course what battery will be used in the car.
www.bmw-i.com/en_ww/bm...
A way cool set of wheels, but definitely not an economy car.
"The company (JCI) had stated that it wanted the partnership to have more flexibility and [access to alternative technologies}."
Saft,apparently, didn't want to. Hence the divorce.
tinyurl.com/3hflpj7
which is: finance.yahoo.com/news...
Northfolk Southern realeased there 2011 Sustainibility Report an hour ago, below is a link. In the report page 18, they talk about NS 999 (the battery powered switcher). It quotes, "Currently, we are working with industry partners on a second-generation lead-carbon battery system. We have applied for a patent on the technology developed to manage the pioneering battery system." It continues, "In addition, we are working on a battery-powered road locomotive that would be paired with a diesel-electric locomotive to supply tractive power on line of road."
nssustainability.com/
Does this mean that the road locomotive will have two engines? The main engine is battery powered and other other generates power to re-charge the batter powered one?
For JP - "Start stop is everywhere, it's everywhere" Check page 8 (16 in the Adobe reader box at the top on my system), "Deploying idle-reduction technologies, such as automatic engine start-stop systems and auxiliary power units."
In a prior place someone asked about multiple engines?
Page 17 (25 in the Adobe box) talks about multiple engines distributed throughout the train controlled by the lead engine.
Probably lots more good stuff, but I'll have to finish tomorrow.
HardToLove
Any updates about NS and Axion? Is all well with testing as far as you can see? Hope to see you back in the concentrator.
Here's a little more direct way to the PDF (on page 26 is where max's quote comes from, which by the way tops the list of most "promising alternatives.")
nssustainability.com/i...
"We have applied for a patent on the technology developed to manage the pioneering battery system"
I had wondered about how Axion and NS were working closely together and if Axion would be able to offer this technology to other railroads, or if NS paid for and "owned" this technology? Now that NS has applied for a patent on what it sounds like is the Battery Management System, how does that affect Axion's prospects of selling to other railroads?
Actually this is good for Axion - designing BMS will provide extra service revenue on top of sales of product, and, usually customized design work has higher margin (at least, it is the case in aerospace industry).
So, KSU decides NSC had a good idea. But "jeez we don't want to spend a year-and-a-half building a customized BMS".
So Axion says "Why don't you see if NSC will license theirs for your use? It's table driven code that allows customization because they needed to be able to adapt it to the different requirements they had. And they'd probably add any additional customization for a very reasonable fee. And the designers and coders that wrote the software would be the same ones doing some work for you! And ..."
You can see where my thoughts lead: win-win-win situation. KSU gets some really useful stuff really quickly and relatively cheaply, NSC recoups some of their costs (and probably more as other customers appear), Axion sells lots of batteries and consulting services to help KSU "get it right the first time".
Everybody gets "Fat, dumb and happy".
Thoughts?
HardToLove
That's a great thing for NSC because it drives upgrade work the Altoona works from every road on the continent. I can think of some other business opportunities through licensing NSC could derive.
Should we hold a memorial for his loss?
HardToLove
Take a look at that page in the PDF on distributed generation that I mentioned. They are so sophisticated and aware of the dynamics of kinetic energy losses that they estimate a 1 - 3 percent fuel savings from side loads reduction/distribution from interspersing the engines throughout the length of the train. With the amount of fuel they use annually, even those small percentages equate to very large savings.
So even on really flat terrain, every little bend, no matter how small, has the potential to increase fuel usage unless ways are found to mitigate the energy losses. They've found another way.
HardToLove
GE Hybrid Locomotive PDF
www.getransportation.c...
GE Hybrid Locomotive page
www.getransportation.c...
NS and GE symposium news:
www.nscorp.com/nscport...
www.prnewswire.com/new...
The best I can suggest is to check either AXPW web sire under investments and/or R&R site as the date approaches to see if any new links to a webcast appear.
HardToLove
Pikeresearch on Hybrid Locomotive:
www.pikeresearch.com/r...
Note that Pike thinks MOST of the batteries will be Lead Acid and Advanced LA. That's the Axion PbC as the ALA battery, I think.
The ability to handle large amounts of POWER is what strongly favors the PbC, compared most other battery technologies.
They predict 500MWh battery consumption just for new hybrids. Retrofits are not mentioned in the short blurb I read.
Sales price of 1MWh of PbC is around $350k just for the batteries. Racking and control electronics not included ;-)
That totals to $175 million for batteries, if the PbC gets all of the market. $35 million for 20% of market. Nice numbers, even spread out over 10 years.
www.rodmanandrenshaw.c...
Back in a previous Concentrator, did you read the section where a bunch of us, including myself, listed questions to be asked during Axion's last quarterly conference call?
Unfortunately, I chose to listen into another conference call that day, at the same time. So a lot of those questions went unanswered. If you would like, I can go back into the archive, fetch and consolidate those questions and send them to you via a Seeking Alpha email.
Please let me know if I can help in anyway.
If not, have a safe and successful trip, and I will be looking forward to learning your observations and anything new not yet discussed in these Axion Concentrators.
Never thought those drunkun camping trips would contribute any useful info.
Background about medium/heavy truck applications, hybrid through BEV.
I know I'd much rather be sitting in front of a rack of PbC batteries in my APC than lithium batteries, advanced or not. : )
Im sure the military, more than anyone needs to ensure reliability before taking on such a program. First, do no harm?
In a previous concentrator there was a statement that people posting here probably had millions of the shares of AXPW. That is great and all but I have a different question for many of you.
Instead of wondering how many shares you have, my question to you is what % of your investing portfolio is your in AXPW? Second follow up is what % of your net worth is tied up in investments. The reason I ask is that I have done work for a guy who owns 50+ MCD and therefore dabbles in the stock market. He owns lots of shares of lots of promising tech but no stock is more than 2% of his investments and considerably less as a % of his net worth. I have recently established a small starter position and hope to add to it over the next few months but its about 10% of my investment portfolio which is basically all my net worth (less my house). For me its more about convinction in my investments that a scattered approach.
AXPW is well north of 10% of my net worth.
In my defense, I'm mid-career, single, contribute about 18% of my salary to my 401k and have a relatively steady, somewhat decent job.
And I never intended to own this much but when shares went on sale I couldn't resist: I have about 40k shares purchased at or below 60 cents (my average price is around 75 cents).
Oh, and I have a pretty high risk tolerance and think that diversification is a scam perpetrated by the investment advisor industry on an ignorant public.
D
"Get even - live long enough to become a problem for your children"!
Hm, spell check just moved out of the house. I must've offended.
HardToLove
Actually, the high diversity mutual fund is the biggest scam. The managers collect a percentage for producing lower than market index returns, calculated after their percentage!
I think the poor return numbers show that most "investment advisers" have a monetary agenda they don't advertise. Why else point people towards those funds?
I am also embarrassed to say that i am in pretty much the exact same boat as you. I have a ways to go before retirement as well. I believe if one can find just a couple stocks at a great price that allow you to sleep well at night...go for it. I just try not to tell too many people.
Not that there are not times that I have doubt. coming up with all kinds of black swan scenarios that will send the stock further south. But when I calm down and think rationally, the risk/reward of Axion right now is about as good as it possibly gets.
Seriously, I'm a sucker for the crooked grins and "googly" eyes when they're *very* young.
I think you-know-who planned it that way so the males wouldn't disown them even knowing what was in the future as they became teens!
HardToLove
It'll be a little higher, then.
My question is, who has more Axion stock...you or Petersen?? ;-)
Once declined a "handshake" offer from the Baltimore Orioles, perhaps my most stupid mistake I ever made in my life. But the offer was only a tad more a month than was my car payment.
You never know where those little opportunities would have led, but you do know it most likely would not not have led to where you are now. Which is a pretty fun place, writing a book in the evenings and trading stock during the day.
Wrote about it in QC.
Next party I'm throwing in Honduras, if attendance justifies, will be the "Ending Of The World Fiesta, 12/21/12."
Hopefully by then, Axion will aid in paying for it.
I'll have iced tea, instead of champagne, with my caviar, please ;-)
Say, if Axion stock goes that high I can afford my own plane ticket!
finance.yahoo.com/echa...;range=my;indicator=vo...
this is what happened in the end
www.theaustralian.com....
the market had been "flooded" with Chinese imports..
Imagine the future for AXPW when start-stop technology becomes compulsive like airbags, (we are not far from this point...) and there is no Chinese company having this technology...
greek gatsby
I presume accurate books, of course, if licensed.
HardToLove
Axion is in a much better position in that government is not subsidizing it but, rather, imposing regulations requiring stop/start - these regs cost the government nothing and are extremely unlikely to ever be removed.
Also, given the patent protection and the natural difficulty of reverse engineering the PbC, Axion is also extremely unlikely to ever to see its market flooded by cheap Chinese knock-offs.
Yet another positive market dynamic for the good guys!
D
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If there is a benefit, I would hope that Axion's advantages would far outweigh whatever pressures the Chinese might bring to the table, giving advantage to Axion.
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