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We've had some spirited debate the last few days about the differences between Democrats and Republicans. An interesting what if is what if John McCain had won. Here are my guesses:
John McCain would have pushed through a $600 billion stimulus plan with every person in America getting a $500 check and every Congressman getting their fair share of pork.
John McCain would have selected an inside Wall Streeter as his Treasury Secretary and would be supporting the banking industry 100%.
John McCain would have re-appointed Ben Bernanke as Federal Reserve Chairman.
John McCain would have increased the number of troops in Afghanistan.
John McCain would not be withdrawing troops from Iraq.
John McCain would not be closing down Guantanamo.
John McCain would have talked tough about Iran and then do nothing.
John McCain would have increased the Defense budget by 6% instead of the 3% increase by Obama.
John McCain would have increased the Dept of Homeland Security budget by 10% rather than the 7.6% increase by Obama.
John McCain would not have apologized to the whole world for being American.
John McCain would not be pushing a government run healthcare plan.
John McCain would be pushing for drilling for oil in Alaska and off the coasts. The Democrats would not go along.
Unemployment would be 10%.
The deficit would have been $1.4 trillion in 2008.
My assessment is that our fiscal and foreign war situation would be exactly the same as today. McCain would not have done what Reagan did in 1981. Reagan went along with Volcker raising rates to 20%, knowing it would cause a bad recession. McCain would not tell the American people the hard truth that spending would need to be cut, unemployment would go to 15%, and the economy would need to go through a wrenching adjustment.
There is about a 15% to 20% difference between Democrats and Republicans. Below is Ron Paul's views on the two party system:
"The coverage of the presidential election is designed to be a grand distraction. This is not new, but this year, it’s more so than ever.
Pretending that a true difference exists between the two major candidates is a charade of great proportion. Many who help to perpetuate this myth are frequently unaware of what they are doing and believe that significant differences actually do exist. Indeed, on small points there is the appearance of a difference. The real issues, however, are buried in a barrage of miscellaneous nonsense and endless pontifications by robotic pundits hired to perpetuate the myth of a campaign of substance.
The truth is that our two-party system offers no real choice. The real goal of the campaign is to distract people from considering the real issues.
Influential forces, the media, the government, the privileged corporations and moneyed interests see to it that both party’s candidates are acceptable, regardless of the outcome, since they will still be in charge. It’s been that way for a long time. George Wallace was not the first to recognize that there’s “not a dime’s worth of difference” between the two parties. There is, though, a difference between the two major candidates and the candidates on third-party tickets and those running as independents.
The two parties and their candidates have no real disagreements on foreign policy, monetary policy, privacy issues, or the welfare state. They both are willing to abuse the Rule of Law and ignore constitutional restraint on Executive Powers. Neither major party champions free markets and private-property ownership.
Those candidates who represent actual change or disagreement with the status quo are held in check by the two major parties in power, making it very difficult to compete in the pretend democratic process. This is done by making it difficult for third-party candidates to get on the ballots, enter into the debates, raise money, avoid being marginalized, or get fair or actual coverage. A rare celebrity or a wealthy individual can, to a degree, overcome these difficulties.
The system we have today allows a President to be elected by as little as 32% of the American people, with half of those merely voting for the “lesser of two evils”. Therefore, as little as 16% actually vote for a president. No wonder when things go wrong, anger explodes. A recent poll shows that 60% of the American people are not happy with the two major candidates this year.
This system is driven by the conviction that only a major party candidate can win. Voters become convinced that any other vote is a “wasted” vote. It’s time for that conclusion to be challenged and to recognize that the only way not to waste one’s vote is to reject the two establishment candidates and join the majority, once called silent, and allow the voices of the people to be heard.
We cannot expect withdrawal of troops from Iraq or the Middle East with either of the two major candidates. Expect continued involvement in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Georgia. Neither hints of a non-interventionist foreign policy. Do not expect to hear the rejection of the policy of supporting the American world empire. There will be no emphasis in protecting privacy and civil liberties and the constant surveillance of the American people. Do not expect any serious attempt to curtail the rapidly expanding national debt. And certainly, there will be no hint of addressing the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationship with big banks and international corporations and the politicians.
There is only one way that these issues can get the attention they deserve: the silent majority must become the vocal majority.
This message can be sent to our leaders by not participating in the Great Distraction—the quadrennial campaign and election of an American President without a choice. Just think of how much of an edge a Vice President has in this process, and he or she is picked by a single person—the party’s nominee. This was never intended by the Constitution.
Since a principled non-voter sends a message, we must count them and recognize the message they are sending as well. The non-voters need to hold their own “election” by starting a “League of Non-voters” and explain their principled reasons for opting out of this charade of the presidential elective process. They just might get a bigger membership than anyone would guess.
Write-in votes should not be discouraged, but the electoral officials must be held accountable and make sure the votes are counted. But one must not be naïve and believe that under today’s circumstances one has a chance of accomplishing much by a write-in campaign.
The strongest message can be sent by rejecting the two-party system, which in reality is a one-party system with no possible chance for the changes to occur which are necessary to solve our economic and foreign policy problems. This can be accomplished by voting for one of the non-establishment principled candidates—Baldwin, Barr, McKinney, Nader, and possibly others. (listed alphabetically)
Yes, these individuals do have strong philosophic disagreements on various issues, but they all stand for challenging the status quo—those special interest who control our federal government. And because of this, on the big issues of war, civil liberties, deficits, and the Federal Reserve they have much in common. People will waste their vote in voting for the lesser of two evils. That can’t be stopped overnight, but for us to have an impact we must maximize the total votes of those rejecting the two major candidates.
For me, though, my advice—for what it’s worth—is to vote! Reject the two candidates who demand perpetuation of the status quo and pick one of the alternatives that you have the greatest affinity to, based on the other issues.
A huge vote for those running on principle will be a lot more valuable by sending a message that we’ve had enough and want real change than wasting one’s vote on a supposed lesser of two evils."
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Nothing much would be different. We would be in the early stages of the Greatest Depression. John McCain would say: "Yes, we are going to win, win, win this fight against depression because we are just going to fight, fight, fight. Americans always fight, fight, fight. That 's what makes us American. The words 'I can't' are not part of the word American...'
Barack Obama says: "We're gonna change, we're gonna change, we're gonna change. Get ready: here it comes. Here it comes. Come on, guys....has it started yet or not...?"
And Goldman Sachs would still be running America. A pox on all three of their houses.
I agree: Republicans & Dem's (for the most part) are the same ol' ice cream; although some are plain vanilla and some are french vanilla... Of course the elitists (aka progressives) will insist they are the french vanilla which is, they'll contend, nothing at all like 'plain' vanilla--and in fact, is, in all ways, so superior that even the term ice cream is inadequate--a misnomer at best... Really??? I love Ron Paul and yes, I guess I'm a little meloncholy today--prayers to Ft Hood...
Why guess when we have the answer from a Nobel laureate, Dr. Paul Samuelson: "Had John McCain won [the 2008 election], the present G.D.P. in the United States would have been even lower than it is now by more than 15 percent."
Dr. Samuelson was the best physicist the economics profession ever produced. His mathematical gymnastics were unmatched in his early days. Yet, he never, in my opinion, understood economics which is a social science and not a physical one. Using tools accepted by the natural sciences may impress natural scientists, but they cannot lead to good results in the social sciences. Hayek referred to such foolishness as "scientism."
There is no way to refute Samuelson's statement because there is no way to know what would have happened. Samuelson should not have made the statement because he doesn't know what McCain's policies might have been. Even knowing the policies would not enable him to make the statement. If Samuelson's estimate were correct, it does not mean that we might not be better off with that outcome. That is, taking our medicine and allowing the economy to purge itself of the excess debt and malinvestment would put us on the road to recovery much sooner. Despite the pumped up numbers of last quarter, we are not in a recovery and nowhere near one. We are pursuing the same policies as Japan, and they have lost two decades and not recovered.
It is a shame when economists let their emotional attachment to a political party cloud their thinking. To be fair, Dr. Samuelson has lived a long and productive life. He has entered that phase where he should be allowed to say anything and not be held accountable. For fear that my memory will fail when I attain that status, I am keeping notes of all the things I have wanted to say and then will be able to get away with.
Regardless of what I and some others might think of his logical positivism and his adoption of an incorrect paradigm (Keynesianism), he is one of the giants in his field.
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We've had some spirited debate the last few days about the differences between Democrats and Republicans. An interesting what if is what if John McCain had won. Here are my guesses:
My assessment is that our fiscal and foreign war situation would be exactly the same as today. McCain would not have done what Reagan did in 1981. Reagan went along with Volcker raising rates to 20%, knowing it would cause a bad recession. McCain would not tell the American people the hard truth that spending would need to be cut, unemployment would go to 15%, and the economy would need to go through a wrenching adjustment.
There is about a 15% to 20% difference between Democrats and Republicans. Below is Ron Paul's views on the two party system:
Pretending that a true difference exists between the two major candidates is a charade of great proportion. Many who help to perpetuate this myth are frequently unaware of what they are doing and believe that significant differences actually do exist. Indeed, on small points there is the appearance of a difference. The real issues, however, are buried in a barrage of miscellaneous nonsense and endless pontifications by robotic pundits hired to perpetuate the myth of a campaign of substance.
The truth is that our two-party system offers no real choice. The real goal of the campaign is to distract people from considering the real issues.
Influential forces, the media, the government, the privileged corporations and moneyed interests see to it that both party’s candidates are acceptable, regardless of the outcome, since they will still be in charge. It’s been that way for a long time. George Wallace was not the first to recognize that there’s “not a dime’s worth of difference” between the two parties. There is, though, a difference between the two major candidates and the candidates on third-party tickets and those running as independents.
The two parties and their candidates have no real disagreements on foreign policy, monetary policy, privacy issues, or the welfare state. They both are willing to abuse the Rule of Law and ignore constitutional restraint on Executive Powers. Neither major party champions free markets and private-property ownership.
Those candidates who represent actual change or disagreement with the status quo are held in check by the two major parties in power, making it very difficult to compete in the pretend democratic process. This is done by making it difficult for third-party candidates to get on the ballots, enter into the debates, raise money, avoid being marginalized, or get fair or actual coverage. A rare celebrity or a wealthy individual can, to a degree, overcome these difficulties.
The system we have today allows a President to be elected by as little as 32% of the American people, with half of those merely voting for the “lesser of two evils”. Therefore, as little as 16% actually vote for a president. No wonder when things go wrong, anger explodes. A recent poll shows that 60% of the American people are not happy with the two major candidates this year.
This system is driven by the conviction that only a major party candidate can win. Voters become convinced that any other vote is a “wasted” vote. It’s time for that conclusion to be challenged and to recognize that the only way not to waste one’s vote is to reject the two establishment candidates and join the majority, once called silent, and allow the voices of the people to be heard.
We cannot expect withdrawal of troops from Iraq or the Middle East with either of the two major candidates. Expect continued involvement in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Georgia. Neither hints of a non-interventionist foreign policy. Do not expect to hear the rejection of the policy of supporting the American world empire. There will be no emphasis in protecting privacy and civil liberties and the constant surveillance of the American people. Do not expect any serious attempt to curtail the rapidly expanding national debt. And certainly, there will be no hint of addressing the Federal Reserve System and its cozy relationship with big banks and international corporations and the politicians.
There is only one way that these issues can get the attention they deserve: the silent majority must become the vocal majority.
This message can be sent to our leaders by not participating in the Great Distraction—the quadrennial campaign and election of an American President without a choice. Just think of how much of an edge a Vice President has in this process, and he or she is picked by a single person—the party’s nominee. This was never intended by the Constitution.
Since a principled non-voter sends a message, we must count them and recognize the message they are sending as well. The non-voters need to hold their own “election” by starting a “League of Non-voters” and explain their principled reasons for opting out of this charade of the presidential elective process. They just might get a bigger membership than anyone would guess.
Write-in votes should not be discouraged, but the electoral officials must be held accountable and make sure the votes are counted. But one must not be naïve and believe that under today’s circumstances one has a chance of accomplishing much by a write-in campaign.
The strongest message can be sent by rejecting the two-party system, which in reality is a one-party system with no possible chance for the changes to occur which are necessary to solve our economic and foreign policy problems. This can be accomplished by voting for one of the non-establishment principled candidates—Baldwin, Barr, McKinney, Nader, and possibly others. (listed alphabetically)
Yes, these individuals do have strong philosophic disagreements on various issues, but they all stand for challenging the status quo—those special interest who control our federal government. And because of this, on the big issues of war, civil liberties, deficits, and the Federal Reserve they have much in common. People will waste their vote in voting for the lesser of two evils. That can’t be stopped overnight, but for us to have an impact we must maximize the total votes of those rejecting the two major candidates.
For me, though, my advice—for what it’s worth—is to vote! Reject the two candidates who demand perpetuation of the status quo and pick one of the alternatives that you have the greatest affinity to, based on the other issues.
A huge vote for those running on principle will be a lot more valuable by sending a message that we’ve had enough and want real change than wasting one’s vote on a supposed lesser of two evils."
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Barack Obama says: "We're gonna change, we're gonna change, we're gonna change. Get ready: here it comes. Here it comes. Come on, guys....has it started yet or not...?"
And Goldman Sachs would still be running America. A pox on all three of their houses.
Dr. Samuelson was the best physicist the economics profession ever produced. His mathematical gymnastics were unmatched in his early days. Yet, he never, in my opinion, understood economics which is a social science and not a physical one. Using tools accepted by the natural sciences may impress natural scientists, but they cannot lead to good results in the social sciences. Hayek referred to such foolishness as "scientism."
There is no way to refute Samuelson's statement because there is no way to know what would have happened. Samuelson should not have made the statement because he doesn't know what McCain's policies might have been. Even knowing the policies would not enable him to make the statement. If Samuelson's estimate were correct, it does not mean that we might not be better off with that outcome. That is, taking our medicine and allowing the economy to purge itself of the excess debt and malinvestment would put us on the road to recovery much sooner. Despite the pumped up numbers of last quarter, we are not in a recovery and nowhere near one. We are pursuing the same policies as Japan, and they have lost two decades and not recovered.
It is a shame when economists let their emotional attachment to a political party cloud their thinking. To be fair, Dr. Samuelson has lived a long and productive life. He has entered that phase where he should be allowed to say anything and not be held accountable. For fear that my memory will fail when I attain that status, I am keeping notes of all the things I have wanted to say and then will be able to get away with.
Regardless of what I and some others might think of his logical positivism and his adoption of an incorrect paradigm (Keynesianism), he is one of the giants in his field.
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