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John Thomas graduated with a bachelor’s degree in biochemistry with honors and a minor in mathematics from the University of California at Los Angeles (U.C.L.A.) in 1974. He moved to Tokyo, Japan where he was employed by a medium-sized Japanese securities house. Thomas became fluent in... More
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  • The Multiples Myth 0 comments
    Jul 8, 2012 9:57 PM

    I am getting tired of the endless procession of permabulls who keep insisting that at a 15 times multiple, the S&P 500 is cheap. The last time I heard this was in 2000, when NASDAQ multiples went from 100 to 50, on their way to 10. Before that, it was in Japan in 1990, when multiples went from, guess what, 100 to 50 on their way to 15. Some 20 years later, Japanese multiples are still at 15.

    When I first entered the stock business in the mid-seventies, typical equity earnings multiples were in the seven to eight neighborhood. If you performed exhaustive stock screens, which then involved paging through endless reams of 10-k's, newsletters, and tip sheets printed in impossibly small type, you could occasionally find something at a two multiple, the kind Graham and Dodd wrote about. Anything over ten was considered outrageously overpriced, fit only to be sold on to retail investors. This is when the prime rate was at 6%.

    The selloff we saw recently is consistent with my long term view that we are permanently downshifting from a 3.9% to a 2% growth rate, and the lower multiples this deserves. I shall now throw all modesty and humility to the wind, and refer you to my April 25 piece, "Meet the "RISK OFF" portfolio (click here for the piece).

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