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Retired, 48, been making my own financial decision since I was 17. Every day, for the rest of my life, I will be a recovering Merrill Lynch customer. Proudest Financial Moments: Personal Best return on equity: 20/1, Leap Puts on Citi & GE, closed in late 2008 Personal best adjusted for... More
  • A small victory . . . but I'll take it 7 comments
    Jun 23, 2009 11:12 PM

    Vindication is sweet. To be proved right, in public, is an addictive nectar. I have tasted it quite a bit of it of late. And I am planning another feast next year.

    But one of my smaller dishes was served early.

    Long time SA users will no doubt be familiar with a character named Cetin, a prolific posting perma-bull who wracked up an astounding negative 7,000 and change rating by his peers. Always plugging his blog, Cetin was the sort who use the term "goldilocks economy" as a serious descriptive. I once referred to him as SA's Terminator - "You can't talk to him! You can't reason with him! He doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And he absolutely Will Not Stop!"

    I went through several stages with Cetin. Denial (contradicting him), Anger (mocking him), Bargaining (trying to convince him), etc. And judging from the posts I have seen, so did a lot of others. 

    Finally, at one point, several months ago, I publicly predicted that "In two years, even he will have seen the error of his ways. But by then, he will be hiding behind another screen name."

    And Lo! Cetin, after apparently being disciplined by Seeking Alpha moderators, disappeared from SA in mid-May. Or so it would seem. It tuns out that Cetin still stalks the halls of SA. But he has already changed his tune - he baits references to his blog with bearish messages. And he posts under a host of different screen names.

    So, a dish served early. I'll take it.

    Now, if I can just figure out a way to make money off of these observations . . . 

     

     

     

     

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  • David Jackson
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    Hi Jasper,

     

    I greatly enjoyed reading your post, and particularly the phrase "SA's Terminator". Cetin has actually been highly useful to us: he's such a relentless spammer that he's forced us to improve our anti-spam mechanisms. He's tried to post under literally tens of user names. We view him is a test-bot for our anti-spam measures. The good news is that we're winning, and the volume of spam from him will fall sharply.

     

    In the meantime, the whole team here at Seeking Alpha really appreciates guys like you who report abuse and bring spammers to our attention.

     

    Best,
    David
    Founder, Seeking Alpha
    24 Jun 2009, 04:17 AM Reply Like
  • Pax Americana
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    Enjoyed readng about this character" cetin" on Jaspers blog, and davids
    reply underneath,
    24 Jun 2009, 04:51 AM Reply Like
  • Carneades
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    This Cetin character sounds intriguing. What if he is just lurking in the tall grasses, planning his comeback? What if he proves your nectar to be artificial?
    24 Jun 2009, 09:17 PM Reply Like
  • Jasper M
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    Author’s reply » On Jun 24 09:17 PM Carneades wrote:

     

    > This Cetin character sounds intriguing. What if he is just lurking
    > in the tall grasses, planning his comeback? What if he proves your
    > nectar to be artificial?

     

    1) First of all, he has already satisfied the conditions I predicted (changing to bearish, and changing his screen name), so whatever he does at this point, my predictions were still correct.
    2) If, on the other hand, what you mean is, 'what if he somehow one-ups you in the future?', well, I wouldn't hold your breath. Stupidity does not prosper in depressions, and he has a verified (albeit mostly poorly hidden) track record of terrible calls. If he does any "lurking in the tall grasses" it will be doing because he ends up homeless.
    3 Jul 2009, 03:57 PM Reply Like
  • I.H.
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    Spammers are the dregs of the internet and ruin it for everyone. And for what? Does anyone ever click on those stupid links? The likes of Cetin should be banned from cyberspace. Let's all go to his site and spam it with ads for Viagra.
    5 Jul 2009, 05:57 PM Reply Like
  • Carneades
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    Jasper,
    At this point, I must thank you for the prescient call on the individual who was , at one point, known as Cetin. I have done my share of investigation insofar as this spamming bandit is concerned, and have developed a profile of the individual that, in terms of quality, eclipses that of the profiles developed by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. The prognosis is grim, to say the least.

     

    Many an article have I penned, that in the comments below appears the disjointed text of a spammer, followed by that familiar hyperlink - not to be mentioned because it will only propagate awareness of the spamming miscreant further - that so often appears in these "beginning level" spamming tactics.

     

    To get the point, and being a very rare instance at which "humble" enters my persona, I feel required to thank you for your contribution to my "Cetin Learning Curve". I must say that my eye for his posts has sharpened in recent weeks, as has my ability to rapidly click the "Report Abuse" link that seekingalpha provides below it's posts. The most humorous aspect of all - and by "all" I mean the history of humor - is that behind Cetin's facade of a relevant hyperlink, there exists a shell of an RSS-feeding-man. When my eyes were, at that one and only shameful moment, compelled to gaze upon the screen that Cetin's hyperlink had provided, I realized that laughter would be difficult to contain.
    18 Jul 2009, 12:59 AM Reply Like
  • Jasper M
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    Author’s reply » On Jun 24 04:17 AM David Jackson wrote:

     

    > Hi Jasper,
    >
    > I greatly enjoyed reading your post, and particularly the phrase
    > "SA's Terminator". Cetin has actually been highly useful to us: he's
    > such a relentless spammer that he's forced us to improve our anti-spam
    > mechanisms. He's tried to post under literally tens of user names.
    > We view him is a test-bot for our anti-spam measures. The good news
    > is that we're winning, and the volume of spam from him will fall
    > sharply.

     

    Um, no offense, man, but I am seeing the 'Cetinic Verses' freakin' EVerywhere these days. I'm not rooting for him, just saying . . .
    1 Sep 2009, 04:38 AM Reply Like
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