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  • Paul Orberson's Titanic (FHTM) Crashes Into Iceberg 32 comments
    Feb 6, 2013 7:34 AM

    Whistle-blower, Joseph Isaacs, who was made famous by exposing the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) pyramid scheme and fraud back in 2010 finally gets vindicated by the Federal Trade Commission and the Attorneys general of North Carolina, Kentucky & Illinois last week. From the press releases circulating around the internet as well as hundreds of media accounts, FHTM was officially shut down on January 28, 2013.

    In the morning of January 28th, the FTC and representatives from Roy Cooper's office (Kentucky AG) raided the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing corporate offices at 880 Corporate Way in Lexington, Kentucky. Employees were sent walking and all files and computer systems were confiscated.

    Federal Judge Darrah, from the Northern District of Illinois court issues a temporary restraining order to shut down this alleged pyramid scheme and a receiver was appointed to seize all assets in order to prevent the Defendants Orberson & Mills from fleeing the country and moving their money outside the USA. This action also prevented any of the related companies from liquidating assets.

    According to the FTC, the operation affected more than 100,000 consumers throughout the United States, including Puerto Rico, and Canada. In some areas, including Chicago, the scheme targeted Spanish-speaking consumers.

    "Pyramid schemes are more like icebergs," said C. Steven Baker, Director of the FTC's Midwest Region. "At any point most people must and will be underwater financially. These defendants were promising people that if they worked hard they could make lots of money. But it was a rigged game, and the vast majority of people lost money."

    Did the FHTM titanic finally crash into its iceberg?

    "This is the beginning of the end for one of the most prolific pyramid schemes operating in North America," Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said. "This is a classic pyramid scheme in every sense of the word. The vast majority of people, more than 90 percent, who bought in to FHTM lost their money."

    In addition to charging the defendants with operating an illegal pyramid scheme and making false earnings claims, the FTC charged them with furnishing consumers with false and misleading materials for recruiting more participants. The attorneys general offices of Illinois, Kentucky and North Carolina joined the FTC complaint, as well as alleging violations of their respective state laws.

    The defendants are Paul C. Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing Inc., FHTM Inc., Alan Clark Holdings LLC, FHTM Canada Inc., and Fortune Network Marketing (UK) Limited. On January 24, 2013, the court halted the deceptive practices, froze the defendants' assets, and appointed a temporary receiver over the corporations pending a trial.

    The Commission vote, including Commissioner J. Thomas Rosch, authorizing the staff to file the complaint was 5-0. The complaint was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois, Eastern Division. The seriousness of these crimes finally came to a head.

    The whistle-blower, after being frivolously sued in 2010 by FHTM in a bogus trademark infringement case for intellectual property, they never owned, began a campaign of truth-telling. He was interviewed in 2010 by WHAS11 ABC news affiliate out of Kentucky. He was also contacted in 2010 by USA-Today and interview for an investigative piece on FHTM that resulted in a trifecta of articles on this entity. That investigative report exposed that other Attorneys Generals were looking into FHTM's evil ways and confirmed Isaacs' analysis that all of the money was made by recruiting whereby minimal efforts and rewards actually came from the sale of products.

    The FTC's own expert has now vindicated Mr. Isaacs when his analysis became part of the Memorandum in Support of the TRO for Federal Court.

    According to Dr. Peter Vander Nat stated that after reviewing the financial data provided by FHTM, at least 88% of the compensation paid by FHTM is in the form of recruiting bonuses, not sales based commissions. Furthermore, most recruits will never recoup their investment into FHTM. Conservatively, at least 90% of FHTM participants earn nothing, and 94% of the recruits drop out within a year. In fact this massive loss rate is the mathematical consequence of FHTM's business model.

    Dr. Peter Vander Nat wrote with his examination on FHTM...  "If the more than a minuscule number of recruits were able to achieve the results touted by FHTM, the bonuses could never be paid and the company would quickly collapse. FHTM's mission is to enroll ever more victims and replace them as they suffer losses and quit the program. It's a rigged game." In other words, the FHTM compensation plan was derived to support the fraud. It was designed for people to fail.

    "The perpetrators of this pyramid scheme promised big returns but instead delivered significant losses for thousands of families in Illinois and all across the country," Madigan said. "In collaborating with our state and federal partners, we're seeking to bring the full force of the law against this entity to ensure that it is put out of business for good."

    Even the corrupt Direct Selling Association had to chime in on this FTC action in order to prevent any backlash. For years FHTM misrepresented their relationship with the DSA. They promised reps for three years their membership would soon be approved. They even went so far as to claim they followed the rules of the DSA and their compensation plan was approved by the DSA as well as all 50 states here in the USA. The had the DSA policies on the bottom of their website until 2011 when that tidbit was replaced by the disclaimer that they had no affiliation with Fortune Magazine or rights to use the Fortune logo.

    The Direct Selling Association (DSA) has received numerous inquiries regarding whether FHTM is a member of the Association. "FHTM is not a member of DSA," confirmed President Joe Mariano. Additionally, he stated that "the Association's membership application process is rigorous, and isdesigned to ensure that only legitimate direct selling companies become members of the direct selling industry's trade association."

    While DSA cannot comment on the specific allegations regarding FHTM, Mr. Mariano commended the FTC and state attorneys general "for their comprehensive, ongoing efforts to identify and prosecute illegal and fraudulent pyramid schemes, an approach that is consistent with concerns raised by DSA through its membership application process and its long-established self-regulatory efforts."

    So where does this leave all of the high level representatives that are loyal cult followers to its founder Paul Orberson? Many have taken to the internet over the past week promoting prayer vigils for the company lead by Cheryl Orberson, Paul's current wife. Others have promised that FHTM will get through this minor speed bump in its business. One leadership call from the 30th said that all companies go through this type of investigations and that the FTC was performing a business colonoscopy on Fortune Hi-tech. Folks like Joel McNinch promised everyone that Paul and Tom were fighting for them with every grain and fiber of their soul.

    I think Paul is fighting to keep his proverbial butt out of prison. He will probably throw the reps under the bus as he did with both the Montana and Texas AG actions. He has been lying for so long I am certain he himself isn't even aware of what the truth really is.

    Has the Federal government ever lost a Motion or case when they attempted to shut a company operating as an illegal pyramid or Ponzi scheme? Just ask the folks from YTB ore Zeek rewards. The sad part is that the high level representatives and leaders currently left in FHTM have no clue what it means to have a receiver going after you to recover ill-gotten gains.

    Why have so many leaders like Darla DiGrandi, Scott & Molly Aguilar, Ruel Morton, Mike Misenheimer and Alexis Adame run from this legitimate company over the past few months. Some left just in time and others fled right after the FTC action. All of these leaders are defendants in the multiple class action lawsuits too.

    Have any of them received legal advice on what happens when a pyramid scheme collapses and a Federal judge orders assets seized by a court-appointed receiver? I doubt it.

    Should the receiver have the ability to go after the net-winners and claw-back all of the ill-gotten funds made at the expense of the millions of net-losers? For sure and he will. What does this mean to the leaders that fled just in time? Nothing at all, they are not going to be immune to the pain that is about to come down on their families. The bigger question is "Do any of these people have any money left or was it all spent on the aura they had to create as an illusion for success? Was all the money spent on the lavish lifestyle to keep up the facade? How will the Fortune tellers spin a weave of lies to justify what is about to happen on the 7th of February? Only time will tell.

    For more information on the whistle-blower responsible for these investigations please visit his website at www.joseph-isaacs.com

    Disclosure: I have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours. I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it. I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

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  • readandlearn317
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    First, your article shows little more than that you believe every negative news blurb you read. Get the facts. People follow FHTM because it works when you work it. Over 70% of a reps income comes from outside customer acquisition from an array of mainstream name brand products. Pyramid schemes involve selling NOTHING. If you want to see a pyramid scheme, so Look at the Global Information Network started by convicted felon Kevin Trudeau: you pay tons of money for NO products whatsoever, you're only given a secret hand shake and 'welcome to the club' cd's. Joseph Isaacs tried to create a social networking website specifically for FHTM, using their band name, trademarks, and company data without permission- then tried to turn around and sell it to FHTM for millions. When they declined, he became belligerent with rage and vowed to use all means necessary (including quote: lying if he had to) to bring FHTM and specifically Paul O. Down. He uses misinformation to try and create media stirs, and when the FTC can't find anything on FHTM it'll be back up and running, and stronger than before. Once they're back, I might join myself-actually.
    8 Feb 2013, 02:46 AM Reply Like
  • jayentre
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    Too may people lost too much money; the rules of the game kept changing over and over again and it finally got to the point that, after 17 months, I stopped believing and got out of this scam. If you bought a cell phone contract thru FHTM from Simplicity, FHTM was paid an up front connection fee of $295; I received a "residual" fee of $2.12/month for 48 months from FHTM. My current affiliate company is NOT an MLM, but a manufacturer , 28 years old, doing $1.1 BILLION this past year. My residual income is now up to $1454/mo. and climbing. I "lived" the FHTM dream and believe you me, it was a blatant nightmare!
    Whatever Mr. Isaacs purposes were, he uncovered the scam and for that I am thankful.... all of us should be thankful.
    By the way, pal, once the Feds close you down... you stay closed!
    8 Feb 2013, 04:36 AM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » First of all I want to let you know that your facts are skewed and 100% incorrect with respect to Fortune Social. FS was a social network for all MLM's. Only FHTM thought it was specific to them as a way to make Isaacs a skapegoat for all of their issues in the media. . They had the audacity to sue Mr. Isaacs for using a trademark they never owned.

     

    PS. You should read the lawsuit filed by the FTC. You can sell products to mask the true pyramid scheme. If you continue to drink the Orberson kool-aid you will remain a good cult follower but will never know the truth.
    8 Feb 2013, 07:39 AM Reply Like
  • readandlearn317
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    Media has traditionally responded to any MLM in a negative fashion ever since Amway swept the nation and left a lot of people with broken dreams of being rich. It only takes one person in a 'power' position such as a public representative (think Montana) to decide something is bad enough to try and ban it/do away with it in their state. It means nothing if not backed up by fact. Media has nothing to do with the dispute between FHTM and Isaacs. The suit was a COUNTER-SUIT after Isaacs frivolously sued FHTM. The court thew the entire case out and FHTM didn't pursue any further action against him. Isaacs however, vowed to make himself rich and make his 'claim to fame' by bringing FHTM down. He's writing a fictional book about his so called experiences with FHTM to further profit from all this negative press. It's really a sad tactic that's been used countless times and various industries to hurt a lot of good people.

     

    On Mr. Isaac's website you referenced in this blog, the top quote:

     

    "Bernie Madoff's business ran like a fraud, FHTM's fraud pretends to run like a business"...Robert FitzPatrick

     

    This quote is hilarious considering Robert FitzPatrick is a lunatic who thinks the world should have ended already and spent his life savings trying to tell people so. Yeah, that's credibility.

     

    I have read the complaint actually, and there aren't even anything close to factual accusations in it. YOU CAN NOT READ A FILING AS FACT AS IT IS WRITTEN BY THE PLAINTIFF'S AND CONTAINS ALLEGATIONS AND DEFAMATION LANGUAGE WITHOUT OFFERING A SHRED OF EVIDENCE AS PROOF. Are you in fact against all MLM's in general? They've helped thousands upon thousands of people get ahead when they've hit a rough patch and many thousands more are skilled enough to live on that income alone. So why take 'jobs' away from the people who know how to make it work?

     

    Because the vast majority of people lose money instead of make it?

     

    I've got a suggestions for people with that mindset: look at the government. Look at most start up businesses. The FACTS are most businesses FAIL. Most businesses don't last 4 years. Traditional storefront businesses cost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars to operate, and when they fail, they ofter take the families entire life savings with them- leaving SBA loan debts, repossessions, and foreclosures in their wake. If you spent a few hundred dollars on an MLM and it didn't work, you should be grateful it wasn't more. Take your entitlement attitude and kick rocks.

     

    If you're someone who's tried an MLM and failed... be a big enough person to point the finger at yourself. Not everyone is business savvy, but at least with the minimal investment required by MLM's everyone has a CHANCE.
    9 Feb 2013, 11:47 PM Reply Like
  • readandlearn317
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    The rules of the game have to change to stay current with applicable law and demands of the changing economy and marketing strategies by FHTM affiliate companies i asssume. As you can see, MLM's have volatile environments with which to operate. I commend your success elsewhere but just because you couldn't make the business model work doesn't mean it was a scam. The FTC hasn't come to a conclusion already, it's in court to be decided. FHTM was granted an extension to review the plaintiff's material and I'm sure it'll be up and running again next month.
    9 Feb 2013, 11:47 PM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » Your facts about the Isaacs - FHTM suit are ridiculous. The court never threw out his counter suit. Where do these facts come from - FHTM? With respect to Robert FitzPatrick - he is one of the world's most high respected experts on MLM.

     

    Sorry but your ramblings sound like those of a good little Orberson soldier.
    
    People didn't fail in FHTM - FHTM failed them by presenting a rigged business opportunity with a compensation plan designed for 90% of the people to fail no matter how hard they worked or how much time, energy and money they put into it.

     

    The FTC has reams of evidence after their 2 year inside investigation. If you read the memorandum of support for their TRO you would see they have more than enough o put an end to this fraud.

     

    I feel sorry for you that you can not see the light at the end of the tunnel. Best of luck to you in life without FHTM.
    10 Feb 2013, 08:16 AM Reply Like
  • Jameswc
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    The FTC and Attorney Generals are their to protect consumers.

     

    With 2 years investigating the company, they would not have shut down FHTM if they didn't uncover something fraudulant. They have their books, they know what they found. They know more than a simple FHTM distributor. Watch the full press release video "Attorney General Conway & FTC Announce Legal Action against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing" on youtube.
    10 Feb 2013, 10:51 PM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » So true. The FTC didn't shut down FHTM because they took the word of the whistle-blower from 2010. He may have been the reason they began to look at the practices and business model of FHTM. They initiated their own 2 year internal investigation including multiple subpoenas and undercover insiders. They had their books and hundreds of videos as well as all marketing materials. They came to the conclusion that FHTM was a rigged game and a huge prolific pyramid scheme.

     

    If Orberson hadn't been such a pompous ass in his handling of the whistle-blower in 2010 and onward then things would have definately been different. He brought this pain upon himself.
    11 Feb 2013, 07:39 AM Reply Like
  • PyroSax
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    Well said!
    26 Feb 2013, 06:06 PM Reply Like
  • Monkeysgirl
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    Unfortunately my husband and I were in FHTM for a year. It did nothing but cost us $$. All you are doing is going in and being basically a broker for everything from Dish TV to selling Vitamins.? Every person that I spoke with I felt like I was basically Bribing. Nobody bought into it, I spent tons of $$ on gas to go around for appointments to show this business, bought dinners/lunches for those that I was "preying" on and I'm so glad i'm finally out of that mess for good! Whatever my income source now, I know it will be earned honestly!
    17 Nov 2013, 12:57 AM Reply Like
  • llbetts68
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    I used to be in FHTM and wondered why it was not working for me!! The LORD MOVES IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS!!

     

    LB
    8 Feb 2013, 05:40 AM Reply Like
  • MZK
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    I wonder why FHTM didn't work for me? That's a simple answer, you didn't work. Lets get down to business people, a pyramid is when money is given and no products or services are received. Anyone who has ever been apart of FHTM knows no money can be earned without first gathering customers for business that have products and services. Mr.Orbeson and Mr . Mills will come out of this vindicated. At that time, I think you will see FHTM soar to the top of MLM compaines. To all the fortune reps that have stayed loyal with the company it shows your true character and strengths. Always remember this: If you can be bought, you can also be sold.
    8 Feb 2013, 07:37 AM Reply Like
  • mross5223
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    I was active in Fortune and made some money, I went a different direction with my life. That being said I never met one person in FHTM that was not Honest, Straightforward and trustworthy including Mr Paul Orbeson. Those that work hard enough can make a substantial living with FHTM the product line and business model are sound. This is an attempt by the US Government again to attack those that have worked hard to succeed and to coddle to those that have less of a work ethic.

     

    God Bless Mr. Orbeson and Mr. Mills I feel certain you will be vindicated in the end.
    9 Feb 2013, 11:48 PM Reply Like
  • Jameswc
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    @MZK FHTM will not be vindicated. No one is getting paid this month, and maybe for good. Two years of investigation holds a lot of merit to seize operation. Products was never the issue, it was who bought the products and where you are rewarded the most. Read the FTC article again.
    9 Feb 2013, 11:48 PM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » It has been hard to get to the root of Fortune Hi-Tech's sales figures up until now. A few days ago the Federal judge unsealed the FTC v. FHTM case. After scouring through the exhibits their sales spreadsheets from 2006-2010 were found. Almost 50% of all of their combined 5 year revenue came from recruiting fees, renewals and tools for reps only. Product sales were less than 50% of total revenue and most of that was internal consumption by the representatives. The sales charts are available at:
    http://bit.ly/12E9WxI

     

    Happy reading. BTW - these are not the same figures given to the Texas AG or Direct Selling News to get listed in the top 100 a few years ago.

     

    How many victims ever knew what the real numbers were. Now they do thanks to the KY subpoenas and the FTC action.
    14 Feb 2013, 09:07 AM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » Has anyone taken a look at the latest findings that Robb Evans and Associates has published on FHTM's website? Incredible and confirms that the focus was on recruiting. Also shows the high drop out rate and the high % of people that didn't make money.

     

    http://bit.ly/YoeGGF....
    24 Feb 2013, 09:49 AM Reply Like
  • prosepo
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    You mention high drop out rate and high % of people that didn't make money. That's the reality of most mlm companies but also with anything that takes a commitment and the drudgery of work .
    21 Mar 2013, 01:48 AM Reply Like
  • StevenHarper
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    To the best of my understanding as an ex-rep of Fortune, all FHTM did was offer the POSSIBILITY of earning large sums of money. No part of this is misleading so long as one representative out of the millions makes the amount declared in the presentation, thus it is possible. The presentations does not explicitly say you will or won't make money, and I resent the claim by the commissioner that the presentation is "misleading".

     

    From this, all reps who understand and agree to what has been said by signing the rep sign up package on the bottom line of the contract assume the risk which they have undertaken.

     

    This is no different than purchasing share in a penny stock, yet we don't make penny stocks illegal. Brokers are simply required to add the No Suitability clause to their account agreement, and the liability (or asset) lies with the prospective investor. Statistically speaking, FHTM and the average penny stock have roughly the same probabilities.

     

    If this is what defines a Pyramid scheme, then lets just shut down every casino, VLT, and stock brokerage in the country... Matter of fact, lets just make taking risks in which the future outcome is not certain within 95% illegal across the board.
    24 Mar 2013, 11:07 AM Reply Like
  • jarrious
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    Amen,
    Steven Harper... The DREAM is still alive, Once one door close another one opens: http://www.enwjf.com

     

    Disabled Vet,
    Jarrious
    5 Apr 2013, 06:36 AM Reply Like
  • river.souris@sasktel.net
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    My wife and I were in FHTM and it didn't work for us but it had nothing to do with FHTM. If FHTM is a pyramid because 90% of people failed in the business then life is a pyramid because 90% of people fail in any business they start. Were else can you get an opportunity to start your own business for $300.00? And if you're willing to put the work in to it be successful! Most of the people who joined our team didn't put any effort in to their business. They would have failed at any business they started if they put the same amount of effort in to it and probably had to declair bankruptcy to boot! My hat goes off to the 10% who were successful because I know the effort and time they put in to it. As I said it didn't work for my wife and I but it changed our lives in a good way. Thank you Mr Orberson. <br/>RussLoad All CommentsCancel
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    8 Apr 2013, 06:33 AM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » Get informed. FHTM was a rigged game designed for 99% of the people to fail while the owners made $50Million+ in fast few years. Failure in FHTM has nothing to do with running a successful business. People failed in FHTM because that is what was supposed to happen to them.
    8 Apr 2013, 10:14 AM Reply Like
  • jmedina531
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    you sound negative, but the fact is that most of the people who fail at Fortune would fail at anything they did. I recruited 3 people,1 of those three, recruited 2 who did nothing, 1 did nothing and 1 recruited 4 and ended up with 7, both of us were promoted at almsost the same time, and then we went in a different direction, all who recruited someone got their money back. If you didnt get your money back, it is your own fault because you didnt do anything. What I didnt like was the point bundle they tried to get you to buy, but the fact is that that bundle was supposed to be temporary until you got your own customers. The problem is, most people will be secret agents and not tell anyone they started this business. If they paid 100k to open a business and put in the same effort, they would not only lose 100k, but they would be filing bankruptcy too. Let that be a lesson to them to stay in the work force and not try and start their own business. They will always lose their money. Most people who start in a network marketing business will get excited, start and then you cant even get them to return your phone call. Is that the problem with the company. NO....it is a fault with them. Let us call a spade a spade.
    1 Jun 2013, 02:27 PM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » You are totally incorrect in your assumptions. People failed in FHTM because the system was designed for failure of most and the success of only a handful.
    5 Jun 2013, 06:44 AM Reply Like
  • Nagic
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    Why have there been no updates to this story?
    14 May 2013, 08:00 AM Reply Like
  • Nagic
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    Why have I not seen any updates to the FHTM story?
    14 May 2013, 08:00 AM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » All updates to the Federal case against the FHTM Pyramid are available through the court cases section of http://bit.ly/181qyUw
    15 May 2013, 09:38 AM Reply Like
  • Critter61
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    I think you are just a bitter person and it's obvious by all the time you have dedicated to "getting" FHTM and especially Paul Orberson
    29 Jul 2013, 06:00 PM Reply Like
  • ErnestHemingway
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    Because they cannot find anything they did wrong...nothing to report! @Nagic
    15 May 2013, 03:59 PM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » Ernest Hemingway - you need to read the latest Motion by the FTC. They have found so much wrong but in FHTM's usual fanfare they pay millions of dollars to delay justice. There is a hearing in front of the judge on May 28, 2013 where a permanent injunction and asset freeze will be issued against Orberson, Mills and FHTM.

     

    Read all about it here:
    http://bit.ly/183DTvD

     

    Trials and cases against pyramid schemes do not get resolved in a week or a month like Paul Orberson had led his followers to believe. That's hilarious.
    16 May 2013, 09:20 AM Reply Like
  • isgtelecom
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    Author’s reply » There has been plenty to report. Paul Orberson and Tom Mills are banned from MLM or any other business for life. All of their assets have been taken by the receiver and are up for sale so the hundreds of thousands of victims can be made whole. What were you expecting? Jail time, tha'ts next.
    20 Aug 2013, 08:56 AM Reply Like
  • sniper8788
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    So if I put money in to this do I get it back?
    4 Nov 2013, 03:42 PM Reply Like
  • smallestchange
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    I lost money as well, it was not from a lack of trying. I knew it was a scheme as soon as I signed up. I did drink the cool aid and lost. It is a pity that so many of you still believe in that man.
    9 Dec, 12:39 PM Reply Like
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