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    "The Pirate Wench" by stan bruns

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  • For those with an interest in water issues and (CPST), CaptWhizBang over at Investorshub posted a link to this nice article.

    It seems that potential applications keep popping up and the only thing left for CPST to do is actually turn a profit as volume scales up over time.

    "New System Combines On-Site Power, Disinfection"

    http://bit.ly/LmFRJm

    HardToLove
    5 Jun 2012, 12:37 PM Reply Like
  • That ups the ante for CPST I would say. 90% efficiency is pretty good too. Considering its just exhaust gasses.
    5 Jun 2012, 01:03 PM Reply Like
  • Latest info on fukushima.

    http://bit.ly/Kv9RJC
    5 Jun 2012, 06:38 PM Reply Like
  • Here's a short interview with sobering/bearish thoughts from Gary Shilling who continues to call for another 20% decline in housing prices. He sees excess inventory of 2 million homes taking 4 or more years to start clearing, and foreclosures likely ramping up again now that the robo signing settlement with the TBTF is at hand.

    His call for 800 on the S&P is a bit extreme -- but then no one believed him many years ago when he correctly predicted the "bond rally of a life time."

    http://bit.ly/Lo4gSN
    5 Jun 2012, 09:31 PM Reply Like
  • Good article on the value of BRK-A :
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    6 Jun 2012, 05:49 AM Reply Like
  • What is going on this morning. Stocks soar, metals soar, birds singing, sun shining......

    More QE rumor.

    http://bit.ly/McVQP4

    Europe out of recession.

    http://bit.ly/L9ENKq

    Really?!
    6 Jun 2012, 07:42 AM Reply Like
  • Add this to the above comment. Remember this is only good till next announcement or failure to announce out of Europe.

    BofA summarizes the full overnight action:

    Risk on! Global equity markets are rallying sharply as Australian GDP came in better than expected. Also, there is speculation that China will easy policy and more proposals from Euro area leaders on how to solve the region's debt crisis. Overnight, all the Asian equity markets we cover finished over 1% higher, expect the Shanghai Composite. The best performer was the Indian Sensex, up 2.7%. The Japanese Nikkei rose 1.8% and the Hang Seng lifted 1.4%. On the flip side, the Shanghai Composite slipped 0.1%.

    In Europe, equities are rallying sharply, up 1.5% in the aggregate. The region's blue chips are up 2.0%, while shares listed in London are up 1.2%. At home, futures are pointing to a strong rally later today as well. The S&P 500 is set to open 1.1% higher, following yesterday's 0.6% gain.

    In bondland, Treasuries are selling off, with the 10-year 3bp higher, at 1.60%, and the long bond 2bp higher, at 2.66%. In Europe, UK gilts are sharply higher, up 13bp, to 1.65%, and the German bund is up 6bp, to 1.26%. Italy and Spain are both seeing their 10-year yields fall by 4bp, to 5.57% and 6.20%, respectively.
    The dollar is weakening due the risk-on trade. The DXY index is down 0.4%. Commodity prices are higher, with WTI crude oil up $1.10, to $85.40, and gold up $18.88 an ounce, to $1,635.93.

    http://bit.ly/MeHJId

    I am sure that BOA would love to promote anything that will get their stock price out of the basement. There must be a lot of demand to push prices up across the world if this is doing it. This rally could last for weeks, errrr days, errrr hours at least!
    6 Jun 2012, 07:52 AM Reply Like
  • Don't worry, it will change...

    ECB leaves rates unchanged at 1%....mkt was expecting a cut. The EZ just refuses to address the problem. Don't say inflation either, they are in the midst of deflation. It is headed to the USA & Germany too. German industrial production dropped 2% unexpected. This might be good as it puts pressure on them.
    6 Jun 2012, 07:52 AM Reply Like
  • Like clockwork......
    6 Jun 2012, 07:55 AM Reply Like
  • PPT doing God's work behind the scenes with the help of the Vampire Squid and the Death Eaters.
    6 Jun 2012, 11:05 AM Reply Like
  • Unsurprising and yet thoroughly frigntening.
    6 Jun 2012, 11:08 AM Reply Like
  • One has to question the sanity of even attempting to invest in these markets. I must have lost my mind, I might have, I think I still have it, I could lose it. Hell I cant remember the correct answer any more, which leads me to believe......Yes, I have lost it.
    6 Jun 2012, 03:44 PM Reply Like
  • LOL Very well stated and probably is how more here than will admit really feel.

    48 hours ago, the world was coming to an end fast...in fact Soros said in 90 days. now in 24 hours we are up 350 points. Go figure. Nothing really has changed. (except Germany may be agreeing to bail out a few more billionaires)
    6 Jun 2012, 03:54 PM Reply Like
  • If there is a QE3 Morgan Stanley expects the rally to last hours not weeks. Full story below.

    http://bit.ly/LrLRVg
    6 Jun 2012, 03:55 PM Reply Like
  • Easing has started. US "late?" to the game. FOMC meeting may be interesting.

    Was yesterday the anticipation rally for this and is it now over already. See previous link in comment above about MS.

    http://bit.ly/MKzxTh
    7 Jun 2012, 07:21 AM Reply Like
  • The golden dawn party needs to invite Nancy Pelosi and Debbie Wasserman Schultz to a meeting. I would love to see it.

    Nancy in the white, Debbie in the red.

    By no means am I promoting water boarding or bitch slapping.

    http://bit.ly/NjFd5R

    This may get censored.
    7 Jun 2012, 07:34 AM Reply Like
  • Looking for a job. This is sad. "from an 18-year old: "Thank God I had a buddy at Burger King who could help me out".

    More depressing stats included in this article.

    http://bit.ly/L59zFU
    7 Jun 2012, 07:44 AM Reply Like
  • Pep talk for us gold bugs.

    http://bit.ly/KWNsD1
    7 Jun 2012, 09:19 AM Reply Like
  • From Jim Grant.

    "for the past three months the Fed's balance sheet has contracted at an annualized rate of 10%".

    Ben might have a personal interest in QE3.

    http://bit.ly/KJWcOl

    7 Jun 2012, 09:36 AM Reply Like
  • If that is true, that shrinkage is why the economy cooled off and slowed down. The economy is too dependent on the free cash.

    We had two months of decent job growth and then they tighten?
    What fools, unless they are playing chicken with congress to do their part now.
    7 Jun 2012, 01:09 PM Reply Like
  • Looks like the rally ends after disappointment from big Ben and then the new Basel III rules just out.

    Pretty good article on why Investors are pulling money out of the Market... hint is HFT
    http://bit.ly/L6yLvC
    7 Jun 2012, 03:56 PM Reply Like
  • I may have to pick up that book. Its not (or at least SHOULD not be) new news, but its still the most important thing involving our markets that needs to be fixed.
    7 Jun 2012, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • I wonder which company is more hosed- ATPG or CHK
    7 Jun 2012, 08:59 PM Reply Like
  • I'd say CHK, just because more is likely to be hidden and undiscovered.

    Both are in deep guano.
    7 Jun 2012, 09:03 PM Reply Like
  • http://yhoo.it/LqidkW

    Rate cut in China (250 basis points, first since meltdown in 2008) was at first greeted as "good" news, then triggered worries as xperts and analists began to figure that China was loosening things up as a result of "dire" numbers in May (many reports are due out this weekened, be aware folks...).

    I have been monitoring China closely, and I believe the xperts are offbase with this one. April scared some folks, coming in weaker than expected and precipitated the beginning of China's central planners easing up on their fight against overheating and inflation. My take has been for a long time now that they were seeking to engineer a "soft landing", and these recent moves jibe well with that vision. They will oversoot their 8% goal just a little (7.9% is what the article indicates, and I agree with that sort of result), but I see this first interest rate cut in 4 years as very well-timed. They are also loosening up the reins on their banking sector, allowing them to offer lower interest rates than those set by the government (80% of official rates instead of the earlier 90%).

    Taken together it looks like May will probably come in just a hair below their goals, but with the actions taken in June I believe they are looking good...

    At least, until we see what happens with their #1 market, the EU.

    Fear and loathing will be affecting markets tomorrow, though, and are doing nasty things to the ASX right now. Australia will get whipsawed by this news, and I expect Friday could well be bad news for us in anticipation of horrible news out of China during the weekend.

    LOL, of course if the news is more solid and saner analists grab the media microphones, we could see a relief bounce come Monday, maybe a large one.
    7 Jun 2012, 09:32 PM Reply Like

  • I am slowly coming to the conclusion that the Fed's QE3 -- is well underway -- its just happening in Europe instead of in the US!

    Recently I was reminded by an MIT professor being interviewed that the cheap Fed fx swap lines with the ECB for US dollars are "UNlimited." I later confirmed from others that indeed the US could theoretically inject $1Trillion or more to bail out Europe. Congressional testimony a few months back pointed this out:

    "What the Euro Crisis Means for Taxpayers and the U.S. Economy ... [we] may get to the $1 trillion level [on swaps] , or perhaps even higher."
    http://bit.ly/MR8TYO

    So I recalled that in early February the ECB total swap line usages had risen yet again to a fresh multi-year high of $89.7 billion http://bit.ly/KlAv16 Then in trying to get the most updated #s, I came across this data point from May 31, 2012 which I had not seen touted in any headlines recently:

    "FX swap with foreign CBs totaled $10.569 bln in latest week. Fed says ECB was only CB to tap the facility. Report states current swaps are the largest since February. Implications are that credit between EU banks could be deteriorating." http://bit.ly/MR8SUX Note that is $10.5 billion in latest week!

    As I understand how swaps work ( here's more: http://bit.ly/KlAudv) , every time the ECB exchanges Euros for USDs it promises to pay back the USDs to the Fed at the same exchange rate it borrowed. But, I worry about duration risk in the event the Greeks, Italians, and Spaniards decide around the same time they want USDs instead of Euros -- and the Fed honors the swap requests from the ECB. In that case -- we better hope the ECBs "promise to pay back at the same rate" does actually happen -- and hope it happens on schedule. I wouldn't want to see a new facility program with longer terms kick in -- to help the EZ at the expense of US taxpayers. This tangled mess has us roped in very tightly.

    Welcome thoughts from others ...
    8 Jun 2012, 09:25 AM Reply Like
  • If you do something with risk often enough, eventually you get caught in a bad position.

    MHO,
    HardToLove
    8 Jun 2012, 09:30 AM Reply Like
  • This has been going on for years. Where do we think the recent massive liquidity injection from the ECB into the European 2Bigs came from? All that money the banks were able to borrow at rock bottom rates... Yet the strength of the euro didn't sag, and actually improved! Which of course would happen if the money was coming from Washington instead of Brussels... This is not a coincidence now, and it wasn't back during the meltdown when it was a similar situation.

    The EZ lacks the sovereign cohesion to make these sorts of things happen. For years now the Euro has been a soap bubble floating on an ocean of dollars...

    This is one of those things which should be a hot button media issue, but is instead an invisible monster standing in the foyer which everyone has agreed is not really there, and thus nothing to worry about. The fact that it occasionally feels a hunger pang and reaches out and selects one of the herd to munch on is similarly ignored.
    8 Jun 2012, 09:41 AM Reply Like
  • Neither side of Washington pol's want to disclose this. It hurts too many companies that are big donors.
    There is no political clout for bailouts ever again.

    Personally, I know it would send us right into depression, but the refusal of the EZ/EU to make necessary moves means we should let them tank and break up.

    At some point countries are like children, you have to let them fall and get hurt so they make better decisions. This will come to the USA again just as sure as we are sitting here. I still can't get over the contraction in the fed's balance sheet since Jan '12 at an annual rate of 10%....That is exactly why we are slowing down now. What the heck were they thinking?
    8 Jun 2012, 10:06 AM Reply Like
  • We should demand gold as collateral before the Germans get it all.
    9 Jun 2012, 07:33 AM Reply Like
  • >LT ... What the heck were they (FED) thinking? I would imagine that the thought was just what Ben has been saying for the last 18 months. The limits of monetary policy are at/near the limit. It is time for the fiscal side to gather all that liquidity somehow and put it to work in the real economy. I'm not the most savvy person about financials & banks but the message seems clear to me that it is time for normal economic activity to be the cure. Barring that, what is a guy to do? There is too much money out there so either you reign in banks by increasing reserves and/or sop up short term paper lest the money stay bottled up in the financial sector.

    I know it is not politically popular, but it is time for the legislatures to redirect the tremendous liquidity the CB's have injected. The other alternative is to just wait for the people who control it to fail into government hands or use it in the general economy. No sign of fiscal or private sector movement.
    8 Jun 2012, 10:28 AM Reply Like
  • As I stated earlier, I know consumer credit helps, but that is not the way out of this recession.

    I don't think you see movement by corporations until after the election. I really don't think they are against Obama as much as we hear, but are afraid of the repubs revenge if they did help things more. I still think '13 is a bad year either way, and will force both sides to the bargaining table no matter who wins..

    I still do not like the fed contracting their balance sheet. This slows things even in good times.
    8 Jun 2012, 11:25 AM Reply Like
  • Good article about debt...and look closely near the end, and you will see exactly why we crashed....it was when consumer debt (not govt debt) hit 98% of GDP...
    So you might keep in the back of your mind for later and teach your children when consumer debt hits near 100% of GDP we gonna crash. Probably true for Governments now too.
    Quite honestly, I am sorta tired of the economic model that the consumer has to "borrow" to create an economy of growth. That makes it a "false economy" to me. They are all begging for the consumer to borrow / banks to lend to them...when that's what got us here in the first place.

    http://yhoo.it/MRnpQu
    8 Jun 2012, 10:29 AM Reply Like
  • GE ... must read. This makes me look at GE differently when you see the potential and FedEx getting on board helps too. There is a lot of info in this, not just electric vehicles either. I think GE is on the right path to AltEnergy in more areas than one. Also, if there is one company that I think could limit AXPW, it is GE.

    http://seekingalpha.co...
    8 Jun 2012, 11:21 AM Reply Like
  • It could be trouble, but reading the article, I'm not so sure paying triple the vehicle cost is going to work out with the number crunchers. Also, statements such as "it's all about getting off of Middle Eastern oil" seem behind the times. Oil is fungible, OPEC isn't what it used to be, and few governments in the ME can afford to turn off the spigot, even if they wish to.
    8 Jun 2012, 06:10 PM Reply Like
  • >LT: I have a different take on the GE story.

    They have powerful political connections and have become experts at milking the "alternate energy" government teat for big money. Electric vehicles (except maybe local delivery trucks), wind turbines and similar technologies are money sinks. There is no long term value in them. Grid scale battery storage has real possibilities and GE is trying to push their Sodium Metal Chloride batteries in that direction, most likely with some DOE funds for "trial" projects that should not need tax payer money.

    So GE has gotten itself in bed with the US gov "big money machine". It should be lucrative, but it might not be a wise longer term play for just the alt energy reasons.
    10 Jun 2012, 01:30 PM Reply Like
  • GE has "not" gotten itself in bed with the US gov't...they have been in bed with them for all my lifetime with lucrative contracts.

    The one difference in my investing...with the exception of AXPW (and I knew it was a long shot when I invested in it) ...

    I invest to make money. If a company makes money on gov't contracts and is smart enough to take free money for product development...then it is just good business at the time. If your gonna play the game, you play by the rules at the time so to speak.

    I really don't care about political beliefs or preferences. Business is business. GE has positioned itself well with a very broad and diversified portfolio of energy projects. FedEx joining them is a plus. Therefore I think GE after being a laggard for many years is now in a position for the stock price to go up.
    10 Jun 2012, 02:07 PM Reply Like
  • LT, as for GE being a good current investment, I disagree. The same management that has wrecked much of the corporate balance sheet over the past decade is still in place. And it is such a wildly diverse company that the odds that good news about this project, should it materialize with the megabucks from the taxpayers, would probably still be buried somewhere in the greater mass (which might not be doing so well otherwise).

    I have seen this happen a hundred times, where some interesting technology which I would really consider investing in were it the province of a discrete company and stock, is subsumed within a mountainous corporate amoeba where its impact is muffled.
    10 Jun 2012, 03:38 PM Reply Like
  • More GE pro's & cons...with new info too
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    10 Jun 2012, 04:19 PM Reply Like
  • I just noticed that McDonalds (MCD) executed a death cross a few days ago.
    8 Jun 2012, 01:13 PM Reply Like
  • 3:46 PM Speculative short positions in the euro jumped another 7.1K to 234.8K contracts in the week ended June 5, the largest gang on one side of the boat since at least Dec. 2007, according to Dow Jones. Shorts in the aussie grew a whopping 12.6K to 68.4K contracts. Maybe not surprisingly, with all that heft underneath, both currencies have performed decently since the 5th. (CFTC report) Comment! [Global & FX]
    8 Jun 2012, 03:52 PM Reply Like
  • TB...we waited too long...

    3:52 PM Bloomberg sees a ray of hope for Chinese solar stocks, expecting China to dominate solar panel sales growth in 2012 with rising demand in China offsetting declines in Europe. China's five largest solar panel makers - STP -5.8%, YGE +1.5%, TSL +3.4%, CSIQ -1.8%, HSOL -1% - are projected to hike 2012 shipments by 27%-37% Y/Y. Comment! [Tech, Energy, Global & FX, On the Move
    8 Jun 2012, 03:59 PM Reply Like
  • Not particularly, LT. Note that CSIQ (-1.8%) and HSOL (-1%) are still looking "cheap", if you buy the projections.

    China's grid could stand some solar input without experiencing much disruption, given that they are still building coal and nuke plants.

    Since I am distrustful of their promises and projections, I would not be a player in any event.

    As for the Western companies you were mentioning earlier...

    They are actually almost cheap enough for me to say "bad enough to take a chance if you believe in their business model".
    8 Jun 2012, 04:39 PM Reply Like

  • Well, isn't this just what we need? Rating agencies are now refusing to allow their ratings of new bond issues to be quoted. They are no longer willing to stand behind their ratings because the Dodd-Frank financial regulations make them liable for mistakes. From the Wall Street Journal:

    http://seekingalpha.co...
    8 Jun 2012, 06:34 PM Reply Like
  • They did not stand behind the ratings in '08 either...Everything that went down was AAA if you remember.
    They are almost useless now. A detriment really. They can't wait to downgrade now. I really think they should be gone. They always downgrade slowly and after the fact.
    8 Jun 2012, 06:53 PM Reply Like
  • Bond ratings are a "confirming indicator" :-)
    8 Jun 2012, 07:03 PM Reply Like
  • US attorney general investigates newspaper leaks.
    This is the result of the stories describing Obama's clearing cyber attacks on Iran's facilities.
    9 Jun 2012, 02:55 AM Reply Like
  • Worth reading, Tax cuts do not create jobs:
    http://on.mktw.net/MlvuXD
    9 Jun 2012, 05:20 AM Reply Like
  • LOL, but tax increases do?

    The parasitic role of government in the economy continues. The question is whether or not it can be grown to become larger than its host has been tested, and shown to be a logical impossibility.
    9 Jun 2012, 06:16 AM Reply Like
  • i thought you (and others too) would like that ! LOL It's the main reason I posted it. The numbers are interesting though.
    9 Jun 2012, 10:41 AM Reply Like
  • Nothing new, but here is Kass' new predictions :
    http://bit.ly/KV91nC
    9 Jun 2012, 05:27 AM Reply Like
  • Beginning of the next trade war? Maybe not, but it is worth noting that some countries still don't understand what actions such as these do more harm than good!

    http://bit.ly/Mo14Em
    9 Jun 2012, 06:46 PM Reply Like
  • Robert, If you are monitoring the QC, we spoke of the Swiss Franc and how it is pegged to the Euro at present. It is taking a beating because of that peg. But let me ask you what you think of this idea.

    When the Swiss Central Bank (SCB) decides that it can no longer support a peg to the Euro and removes the peg, I think that the anything denominated in the Swiss Franc will jump at least 30%. The longer the SCB maintains the peg, the more the reaction will be, like a rubber band being pulled and extended further and further. If the peg is removed before the breaking point for Switzerland, the reaction should be positive.

    I don't know how long the SCB will continue the peg, but if the Euro drops below $1.20 I think I'll consider buying some quality Swiss stocks. I realize this would work even better if I lived in Greece.

    So what do you think?
    9 Jun 2012, 07:24 PM Reply Like
  • Mark, have you taken a look at FXF for your Swiss play? You can also write puts on the Sep 102s and receive $3 premium...
    10 Jun 2012, 02:26 PM Reply Like
  • Joseph - Thanks for the reco. I'll take a look at it.
    11 Jun 2012, 09:46 AM Reply Like
  • I see this more and more...if the USA were China, they would force banks to give the low rates to qualified borrowers. Right now it is appraisals that are holding real estate loans back.
    http://bit.ly/LKIhSj
    10 Jun 2012, 04:58 AM Reply Like
  • 2:19 AM China May exports +15.3 Y/Y vs. +4.9% in April and consensus of +6.9%. Imports +12.7% vs. +0.3% and +3%. Trade surplus $18.7B vs. $18.4B and $17.8B. Sales to the EU rise for the first time in three months. However, economists remain cautious. "It is doubtful that growth in exports and imports can keep up such a fast pace," says one. [Global & FX, Top Stories] 3 Comments
    10 Jun 2012, 04:59 AM Reply Like
  • Better (perhaps much better) than anticipated after China cut rates last week.

    This could make the Monday relief rally even more powerful. If some cohesive movement on the Spanish finances also occurs, it could be a large move.
    10 Jun 2012, 11:32 AM Reply Like
  • I agree, It appears they have given in to Spain, and barring bad news, I expect we move higher next week. I would like to see a big move.
    10 Jun 2012, 02:11 PM Reply Like
  • OT ... l found this worth showing
    http://yhoo.it/LcjWaQ
    10 Jun 2012, 05:12 AM Reply Like
  • 7:47 AM "These charts have the look of an accident waiting to happen," says Bianco Research, eying both large and small speculators gathered on one side of the boat on the euro. Long dollar and short not just euros, but aussies and loonies too, may make great sense, but it's clearly a "crowded trade." 2 Comments [Global & FX, Quick Ideas]
    7:35 AM Get familiar with Article 65, writes John Dizard, because plenty of officials and corporate treasurers are. Article 65 in the EU treaty allows for countries to impose capital controls, and that's what he expects for Greece after its June 17 election (in which the spoils are reportedly already being divvied up by ND and Syriza). The Troika will have no choice but to fund Greece if it doesn't want the contagion to spread. 2 Comments [Global & FX]
    10 Jun 2012, 09:13 AM Reply Like
  • What spoils are left in Greece? Ok you can have the darned pair of socks and I will take the mismatched set. /s
    11 Jun 2012, 07:57 AM Reply Like
  • Futures falling all morning...looks as if the big pop I expected is going to be modest if at all.
    11 Jun 2012, 08:10 AM Reply Like
  • Just look at the daily charts on the S&P 500, DJIA, or Nasdaq. What a downward slope! And it does not look like the decent is slowing down at all so far.
    11 Jun 2012, 09:49 AM Reply Like
  • Wouldn't you know it! I look at the charts, come here to post a comment, and as soon as I return to take another look at the charts all three have started to rebound. Now, I suppose I'll go back and the fall will have continued.
    11 Jun 2012, 09:52 AM Reply Like
  • China is the key, Spain is the short term, and the HFTs have the basketball court largely to themselves...

    We are entering a period where things can and will flip on an analog dime and leave 9 quantum cents change.
    11 Jun 2012, 09:59 AM Reply Like
  • Greetings all,

    Trying to slog through and catch up on comments everywhere from the past couple of weeks - been busier than expected with moving into our new house.

    My meandering mind wondered on a journey to/from the Home Depot/Lowe's hub of my current universe if Bernanke is holding back QE3 until after the election in preference for Romney over BO. (it would serve the Democrats right since a Democrat has not appointed a new Federal Reserve Chair since Carter appointed Volcker)

    By the way... been away from investment situation for a bit over two weeks... net result seems to be pretty flat from my abbreviated vantage. Seems like either exhaustion or an explosive movement will come in the fall after a summer of trailing off into the tequila sunset.

    Dinner with our neighboring OG tonight.

    All best to the best group on the web... and hope to rejoin the banter on a more regular basis soon...
    11 Jun 2012, 09:54 AM Reply Like
  • Give OG my best.
    11 Jun 2012, 10:00 AM Reply Like
  • Please give OG a hug from me.
    11 Jun 2012, 10:33 AM Reply Like
  • Give her my best also! And enjoy your new house, John.
    11 Jun 2012, 11:02 AM Reply Like
  • Good that you are getting settled in.

    Tell OG she's missed.

    HardToLove
    11 Jun 2012, 12:02 PM Reply Like
  • I definitely miss OG very much. Please let her know that the loss of her wit and wisdom has left a whole in the QC.
    11 Jun 2012, 02:50 PM Reply Like
  • I seem to have missed something. What is up with OG.
    12 Jun 2012, 08:36 AM Reply Like
  • She decided that the nature of the QC's et al no longer suited her, I guess.

    HardToLove
    12 Jun 2012, 09:04 AM Reply Like
  • Regards and well wishes were passed along. OG and Mr. OG are doing fine and well. We all live in the same neighborhood now (as an unplanned but nice result of our move).
    12 Jun 2012, 06:49 PM Reply Like
  • Must read...it will make you sick. They got away with it once, so might as well keep trying.
    http://bloom.bg/KZPthZ
    11 Jun 2012, 10:02 AM Reply Like
  • LOL, Florida is infamous for its high number of double dipping snowbird voters (senior yankees who own property in Florida, but live 9 months of the year in New Jersey or Michigan). Florida is also infamous for its inability to clean up its act, and this effort is just another bungled example.

    Perhaps they will learn from this debacle to get started on such efforts so as to avoid trampling on black letter law.

    They really do have a bad problem, but even this push (and even assuming it were done correctly) will not address the many multiple voters who cross every t and dot every i. Part of the problem is that there is really no downside to breaking the law and voting in multiple states (there are some folks who vote 3 or 4 times in 3 or 4 separate states, its not hard if you have multiple residencies), and then of course we have the infamous ACORN...

    So long as this issue is treated like jaywalking, with virtually no chance of even being charged with that low penalty, the abuses will continue and grow.

    Finally, this is a clear example of the party running the DOJ playing favorites. Were this an example of a Democrat state government seeking to pump in thousands of last minute registrations to inflate their voter ranks with fake identities, and it ran counter to the law (LOL), would the same effort be mounted to squash it?

    Just another example of how the political spoils from the imperial Federal elections continue to corrupt the system from top to bottom. The corruption varies as to agenda and nature somewhat depending on whether its the Demicans or the Republicrats doing it, but its pervasive presence has become an accepted constant.
    11 Jun 2012, 10:18 AM Reply Like
  • "but its pervasive presence has become an accepted constant."

    the pol's accept it, the people will not. We may be on the verge of some house cleaning soon. All this type of BS on both sides will be met with a fierce civil unrest and revolt. It's just a matter of time. The pol's can't resist, and they will pull this crap one too many times.

    This just show you TB, it is not about what the voters want, it is not about what is good for the country and it's people, it is no longer about money either...it is POWER.
    11 Jun 2012, 10:23 AM Reply Like
  • So long as the cookie jar stands open and unguarded...

    This is just not new. Its been going on for over 200 years, and the major difference between now and 100 years ago is that its moved from the deniable shadows into the blatant sunlight.

    The fact that it HAS become so in your face and blatant just means that the citizen's longstanding ability to ignore it and hope it would go away has been removed.

    Of the 3 potential responses (anger/action, apathy/inaction, or approval/participation because its "their" guy who is benefitting), I expect the huge majority of citizens to respond with apathy and inaction. This broad "center" will number over 60%, if not more. Combined with the third "approval/participation" group of partisans, they will control and prevent any effective address.

    Revolution by the disenfranchised 30% IS, indeed, an option, and its noteworthy that the same percentage mounted the last 2 such efforts...
    11 Jun 2012, 10:46 AM Reply Like
  • Is it acceptable to you?

    Maybe it's time for people like me and you and others here to send a message that this is not acceptable.
    11 Jun 2012, 11:04 AM Reply Like
  • We Libertarians are a noteably accepting group. Membership is easily acquired, and we get to lose every election while simultaneously tossing rocks at the Demicans and Republicrats...

    And yes, there is also DG's wonderful GOOOH group...

    Writing to your congressman and Senators (particularly if you happen to have one who is complicit in whatever proximate problem, like voter fraud, is setting your hair on fire) is something which CAN work, so long as there are thousands of us doing it (I do this with great regularity).
    11 Jun 2012, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • The answer I'd like to see (as long as we have to put up with the current tax system) is for the IRS to send out an income tax receipt to all citizens who actually ended up paying any income tax. The receipt would then be used once (twice if married filing jointly) as identification for voting. If you pay taxes, you can vote. If you don't, you can't. After all, if you are not paying taxes, you are not part of the solution.

    Next thing you know, we'll be wanting join the Euro Zone and do away with the US dollar! No, that wouldn't work because we couldn't print more mone

    Of course Democrats would never go for such a law because they would lose well over half of their voting base. I'm not trying to rig the system in favor of the Republicans, although it would in the short term. I just don't think that those who are getting a free ride from the system should not be allowed to vote because, as this group continues to grow, there is greater pressure to move more toward a socialist form of government. Those who want something for nothing should not be making the decisions for those who diligently pay their way.

    I'm sure I'll get stretched over hot beds of coals for this one, but it's just a thought that has been lingering with me. In years when I was fortunate enough to have been able to zero out my income taxes (due to owning and managing depreciating assets back before the laws changed), I would have given up my right to vote in the years I paid no taxes. It didn't happen very often. But there are wealthy individuals who pay little or no taxes. Why should they be allowed to vote when they are playing the system?

    I understand the arguments. They are just taking advantage of laws that were made to support economic growth. Just because they don't pay taxes doesn't make them any less of a citizen. Just because a family is poor doesn't mean they should have no voice.

    So, why not make the receipt good for three years? That way only those who rarely, if ever, pay taxes would be the only ones unable to vote. That doesn't address the last question, I know. But, again if these people are doing nothing to better their lot in life and are totally dependent upon the welfare from the rest of us, tell me once again why the voice of those who drag the system down as dead weight should be making the decisions on how much the rest of us should be paying to help support them? We're not too far away from that situation; where those on welfare and not paying any income taxes are near being the majority and able to decide the future of the nation.

    Will they vote for smaller government? I don't think so. Will they try to hold taxes down or support difficult decisions on Social Security or Medicare or Medicaid? Probably not because that might disadvantage their group. This is the direction in which we are heading. And that scares me more than anything else.
    11 Jun 2012, 03:22 PM Reply Like
  • Of course, there would have to be some exemptions for retired people and those with disabilities. I'm not totally inhumane.
    11 Jun 2012, 03:27 PM Reply Like
  • Where to begin? Even if one's income was so low here in Indiana that they paid no income tax, one would still pay payroll taxes (you know, Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid). Normally, that would be 6.2% of my income, but currently only 4.2% due to a temporary cut. I'd also be paying 3.4% state income tax, a city/county income tax, property tax (unless you're homeless), 6% sales tax on everything but groceries; not to mention the various fees and excise taxes that come with owning a car, or a cell phone, etc. Such a person is hardly getting a free ride.
    11 Jun 2012, 11:51 PM Reply Like
  • jpau, a fed sales tax would eliminate the free ride appearance. However those on welfare pay no social security, medicare/medicaid tax, no state income tax, and are usually living in a HUD house (payed for by taxpayers) paying zero property tax. With a free govt supplied cell phone they also avoid the various fees and excise tax on that luxury. They ARE actually getting more of a free ride than you might think.

    FREE GOVERNMENT CELL PHONES

    Lifeline phone service provides free cell phones to America's financially disadvantaged


    http://bit.ly/LQd4yR
    12 Jun 2012, 08:45 AM Reply Like
  • If we had a congress that would work instead of obstruct, the nat'l sales tax could come to pass. Lower tax rates, for individuals and corporate, close all loopholes to hoarding money in shell's overseas, and coordinate the national tax needed to fill gaps with states involved too.
    Everyone wins & is happy.
    12 Jun 2012, 08:55 AM Reply Like
  • The 2 books by Neal Boortz and John LInder on the "FairTax" are a must read. The first book (easy, fast read, and entertaining) answers 95% of the questions and lays out the structure in a comprehensible fashion, and the 2nd book (for the slow learners or hard heads) nails down the other 5% of questions and adds mass to the concept.
    12 Jun 2012, 08:58 AM Reply Like
  • Sorry but not everyone comes out happy. Ask a congressman or senator (spit, spit, spit, god I hate even mentioning them any more) what they think about loosing their power to manipulate the tax code and provide benefits....ummmm payoffs, for those who pay the proper bribe....err campaign contributions. This sordid fact, is one of the biggest reasons for fair tax not even getting a cursory look from our leaders....hell, bastards, in Washington yet.
    12 Jun 2012, 09:07 AM Reply Like
  • you got that right.
    12 Jun 2012, 09:13 AM Reply Like
  • I had a really bad year once when a business I owned failed. My income went negative. Being self-employed I didn't qualify for unemployment benefits. So, I looked pretty poor on that year's income tax return. I was flabbergasted when I did my taxes! I didn't pay in any taxes that year and I got a refund of almost $6,000. I found that others with little income also get even larger refunds...every year! I think that mostly offsets any of the other taxes they pay. Most do not own their own home and thus do not pay property taxes. If someone pays property taxes, then perhaps they should also get an exemption, and the right to vote, at least in local elections.

    None of this is remotely possible. I know that. So, I'm not going to try to justify every little possibility because that is just a game of futility. My point was really the direction in which the nation is moving and how serious it has become. Soon, unless the direction is changed, those who pay no fed income tax will be the largest voting block in the country and they will determine the future. That can't lead us to a good ending.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:46 AM Reply Like
  • Please stop pretending that not paying federal income tax is synonymous with being on welfare. That's grossly unfair and inaccurate. In 2009 only 17% of households paid no income tax and no payroll tax. That's about 1/3 of the total, and 2009 was a year with particularly high unemployment. The majority of low income people who don't owe income tax (about 2/3 of the total) are elderly, disabled or students.
    http://bit.ly/HoXvwC

    I hardly think that the perception of people who ignore all the taxes that I listed previously will somehow change if we add a national sales tax to the burdens on the poor.
    12 Jun 2012, 06:57 PM Reply Like
  • Jpau, so many folks that pay no federal income tax receive the earned income credit. This credit often results in folks actually getting paid by the federal govt.

    I call that welfare, spreading the wealth, selling your vote, and the list goes on. The point is they are getting money that was taken from the sweat of someone else.

    I have a friend that has a tax return prep company. Many folks walk in and claim income of very minimal amounts, earned in cash, wink, wink, and then apply for the earned income credit. It is obvious to the most casual observer they are lying but there is no way to prove it. They get the earned income credit paid to them. Obviously there is corruption at both ends of the spectrum and folks in the middle are getting screwed.
    13 Jun 2012, 08:51 AM Reply Like
  • jpau: Greetings: As a source of Federal revenue our tax system is about as poor an instrument as could be devised. As a method of redistributing wealth it's very effective. We don't need a national sales tax on top of the income tax. We need to replace the current system entirely. Not close loop holes, or eliminate tax credits but scrap the entire thing and replace it with a fair or flat tax. As for the poor being unfairly burdened that is a crock. They use the same services and products the rest of us do. They get paid to use them while the rest of us pay for using them. They definitely shouldn't get "Free money." from Uncle Sugar and should have to pay something into the system even if it's a miniscule amount. We all have to have "Skin in the game.". Those who don't are free loaders making others carry their load for them.
    13 Jun 2012, 10:14 AM Reply Like
  • As a method of redistributing wealth it's very effective. - r.b.f.

    Robert, redistributing to whom?
    http://econ.st/KuIa3G
    http://bit.ly/KuI7VI
    13 Jun 2012, 06:51 PM Reply Like
  • interesting stats:
    http://on.mktw.net/Lg5cI6
    11 Jun 2012, 03:15 PM Reply Like
  • Although we didn't have the numbers back then, John Lounsbury and I discussed this effect in threads about income distribution inequality and the crushing of the middle-class.

    He went on to write a couple good articles about it. That was on SA. He's since moved on to Econintersect and has touched on the subject over there as well.

    Robert Martorana and I also touched on that and he also published about it here on SA.

    Both a few years back.

    HardToLove
    11 Jun 2012, 03:29 PM Reply Like
  • Jeb Bush speaks out again in NY:
    http://on.mktw.net/NtqJAb
    11 Jun 2012, 04:01 PM Reply Like
  • http://yhoo.it/LNmQ7e

    Having elected to take the last decade and "lose" it, now we see that we have also somehow misplaced the decade before that one...

    And hey, does anyone else find it odd how often we see unintended coincidences in the news? Just after I read through the lost decades article, I ran across the most recent quote from our engenue President, he who must not be named (else an army of trolls will descend upon us), Voldemort:

    "The private sector is doing fine".

    LOL, and from a perspective which deletes the last 20 years or so, that might even be true.

    Magikal.
    11 Jun 2012, 04:48 PM Reply Like
  • Ingénue?

    That's better.
    11 Jun 2012, 04:50 PM Reply Like
  • There is a few interesting points after you dismiss the rest:

    Perpetual Growth Myth:
    http://on.mktw.net/MzrK4f
    12 Jun 2012, 04:19 AM Reply Like
  • Alt Energy investment grows 17% globally...Geothermal on rise
    http://yhoo.it/LPHXU4
    12 Jun 2012, 04:53 AM Reply Like
  • I told you guys that no matter what you hear on the news that hospitals and insurance companies want to keep Obamacare.

    9:02 AM Humana (HUM) and Aetna (AET) yesterday joined UnitedHealth (UNH) in saying that they would offer some Obamacare provisions regardless of whether the Supreme Court voids all or part of the Act, including free preventative care. However, WellPoint (WLP) and Cigna (CI) are holding back on any pledges until after the court rules. (previous) Comment! [Healthcare]
    12 Jun 2012, 09:04 AM Reply Like
  • "Free preventative care" is one of those marketing oxymorons when viewed emitting from an HMO operator. They are ALL about that aspect of health care, and it is the primary motive for anyone with a choice to choose them over other alternatives. The question is not whether or not they will make this a part of their standard business practice because this or that legislation passes or fails, but whether or not it was ALREADY part of their business, and they are simply using the media spotlight to get their long-standing message across.

    It would be as if an auto manufacturer who had been including side airbags in all their cars for 20 years were asked about a new law mandating side airbags - but which was being fought in the high court by those who think side airbags are a bad idea... The manufacturer would almost certain mention that they agree with the new requirement, and will be building side airbags into their cars whether the new legislation stands or not.

    This is simply smart business, to take advantage of the situation.
    12 Jun 2012, 09:25 AM Reply Like
  • I noticed that providing insurance to children up to 26 was also still being considered. I think they have an ulterior motive for that. We have to pay an additional premium to add our son. I see this as breaching that gap of youth that passes on health care until they are a little older in an attempt to get some premium payments out of the most healthiest of the population until they "realize" they need to have health care insurance.

    Or, I could be off base and just overly cynical.
    12 Jun 2012, 09:39 AM Reply Like
  • I think you are dead on. I also suspect they would want to put the parents on the hook if the adult child does not pay.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:20 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks to evolutionx at ZH. Dummies guide to what went wrong in Europe

    http://bit.ly/LGgl7O
    12 Jun 2012, 09:40 AM Reply Like
  • David Rosenberg On Austerity.

    I guess he could have said, "I have a dream". Some how I do not see the R's doing this much good.

    http://bit.ly/LhHXNU
    12 Jun 2012, 10:05 AM Reply Like
  • Since I have discussed TEVA on these pages recently -- I thought I should post my latest thinking on this pharma for those interested. I compiled this earlier in a response to a pm sent to me by an SA reader conducting research:

    TEVA's attractive financials plus the following considerations have attracted me to this stock in the past:

    1) Global economic uncertainties plus Obamacare legal uncertainties appear to favor a cost effective - generic product line;

    2) Shares were unduly battered (IMO) by investors thinking that being based in Israel -- the Iran nuclear threat would impact TEVA -- whereas its locations are spread all over the globe;

    3) And I think analysts over-reacted to the new CEO's delay in giving new guidance after being a few days on the job (the guy came from Bristol Myers). I think he did the right thing in waiting until he had reviewed all the business lines.

    My financial analysis and those reasons listed above made TEVA a buy for me recently any time it appoached $38. BUT, a major NEW market uncertainty was introduced last week which motivated me to book my gains on TEVA and I am now watching on the sidelines before I get back in.

    The game changer in my opinion was China's latest move to weaken intellectual property rights for drug makers:

    "The amended Chinese patent law allows Beijing to issue compulsory licenses to eligible companies to produce generic versions of patented drugs during state emergencies, or unusual circumstances, or in the interests of the public.

    For "reasons of public health", eligible drug makers can also ask to export these medicines to other countries, including members of the World Trade Organisation."
    http://on.msnbc.com/L3......

    Well -- it appears to me that China is sanctioning violations of drug licensing -- anytime -- anywhere. As you may know, even before this overt maneuver -- Chinese drug makers are said to rule the counterfeit drug trade on the internet. In fact, a recent FDA warning of an internet counterfeit drug was related to one of TEVA's generics.

    So -- China was supposed to be one of the growth markets for TEVA and now this loose generic drug provision is likely to only grow TEVA competitors and imposters out of China -- that's a game changer IMHO. I am watching on the sidelines only unless the stock gets really cheap during our market meltdowns.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:07 AM Reply Like
  • Good move, imo, Mercy.

    I have been a fan of the more efficient generic makers in the past, BUT with a watchful eye on China. You called this one dead on.

    What is more important is the fact that this blatant move draws into sharp relief the thousands of dumb Western firms which have handed over their proprietory technology to Chinese "partners". Now every one of these moves must be measured against the likelihood that their knowledge base is going to be pillaged by a predatory nation state.

    The mention of the WTO is a shot fired by China across the bow of the clueless Westerners who believe that China's membership in that international body will, in the end, mean anything.

    Of particular interest to me at this point are those companies which have managed to avoid falling into the Chinese tiger trap. Just as an example, look over the automakers: GM... gone. Chrysler... gone. Ford... maybe not. Relatively little of their capital base is tied up there, and the impact on proprietory knowledge is low...

    Many other major industries need to viewed in a similar fashion.

    Apple...

    Vulnerable.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:17 AM Reply Like
  • I have often wondered about the risk that APPL takes in being so dependent on China mfg.
    That is the one most dangerous to the company.

    I really think China is gearing up to have every thing "in-house" after the final global collapses take place. Even if they withdrew from the WTO, who could change anything ?

    If they get the technology, or just the parts where their scientist can use it for a foundation and build out the rest themselves..they basically lock out any foreign company from profiting on the Chinese population when they turn inside for growth and sustainability ....IMO, they are very close now.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:25 AM Reply Like
  • LT: Their geopolitical strategy goes far beyond building a domestic demand structure. The Middle Kingdom very much plans to be the center of the world.

    Meanwhile, myopic Western leaders are preoccupied contemplating their sovereign debt navels and trusting in what amounts to a "gentleman's agreement" with flimsy international organizations to replace their lack of competent foreign policy or national defense planning.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:45 AM Reply Like
  • LT,
    Hmmm.... I think you have explained just what I think is happening with
    China. The only thing I believe could derail the China experiment now is for the U.S. to impose the fair tax. I know our politicians won't do this because it would mean giving up almost all their power because it resides in their manipulation of the tax code. But, the fair tax would stimulate most of the multinational companies to locate as many of their facilities and HQs here as feasible. Jobs would come home and more jobs would come here from all over the globe. We would need to fix other pieces of the infrastructure and government policies in order to accommodate the demand for labor like education/retraining, border security and immigration.

    That move alone could suck the wind out of the Chinese economic sails. And once the slide begins...

    Well, anyway that's my opinion.
    12 Jun 2012, 12:03 PM Reply Like
  • Ditto, K202.

    With diamonds.
    12 Jun 2012, 12:06 PM Reply Like
  • Mercy,

    I think you've got it right also, but I suspect that you are a little early on the timing. Even though the law is in place and existing generics are already being pirated, it is the potential of the blockbuster drugs coming off patent in 2012 and 2013 that have me salivating. I think Teva is still going to be a good bet until around 2014 when the Chinese have had time to do the backward engineering necessary to create the drugs. I may be wrong about the timing, but I think there is such a huge potential crop of major multi-billion dollar drugs coming off patent that Teva will command its share, especially since the company is first in line for many of those generics. Just my point of view. "But in the end I realize that yours is a safer route to take.
    12 Jun 2012, 12:08 PM Reply Like
  • It would be dangerous to assume the Chinese don't start reverse-engineering EVERY drug as it comes into the market, if not before. Counting on a delay between a patent expiration and developing a production line seems to me to be an unlikely scenario. The same Chinese companies which are making fortunes from trading in counterfeit drugs will simply switch to making somewhat smaller fortunes from popular new generics, utilizing the same production facilities.
    12 Jun 2012, 12:12 PM Reply Like
  • Count me in that camp too.

    Yep diamonds on the soles of your shoes.

    http://bit.ly/KqMiBO
    12 Jun 2012, 02:45 PM Reply Like
  • Nice comment, MJ. I just returned from a long trip to the Mideast capped by 10 days in Israel. I looked at the facilities and spoke to the users of some of my favorite companies there.

    I'm staying away from TEVA right now for not nearly as good a reason as you gave: I simply don't like the macro picture for the US or any other market. We're hedged across the board.

    It comes as no shock to me that China is a predatory autocratic regime (which we are short via YXI in some client accounts as part of our hedging program) and I think TEVA, re China, "got along without them before and they can get along without them now." Will the Chinese reverse engineer any product they can get their hands on? Sure, but they'll get caught often enough (toxins in milk, lead in toys, people dying from counterfeit drugs) that they will end up harming themselves more than the ethical, in both senses of the word, pharmaceutical companies.

    TEVA remains on page 1 of our short list for that dreamy day when we can actually buy and hold top drawer companies and go kayaking during market hours rather than stay glued to the daily follies. History says that day is coming again. Anywhere below 35 we start writing puts on TEVA ...
    12 Jun 2012, 08:57 PM Reply Like
  • K202, I think you're being too optimistic. Following WWII, the world's best entrepreneurs, scientists and engineers immigrated into the U.S. Currently, most of them are going to China. I have worked in the biotech industry for five years and most of the high level Chinese employees I know who are under the age of 40 either went back to China or are scheming to do so in the near future. When I actively tested out international job market last year, Chinese employers paid significantly higher (nominally) than their international competitors.

    Most Big Pharma companies have long term plans to move their R&D facilities to China. Currently, many of manufacturing plants are in Puerto Rico or Ireland and it would not surprise me if Manufacturing is eventually moved to China as well. Implementing the fair tax code would help, but it will not derail the freight train. Even if some of the jobs come back, who would fill them?

    The reverse brain drain is already happening at large, and it will not surprise me if the brain drain of the best Europeans and Americans happen in the future.
    13 Jun 2012, 03:20 AM Reply Like
  • jaiguike - You are right that the fair tax alone would not make the difference. Our regulatory burdens are far too great as well. Government needs to downsize, imho, and do better at a few, more crucial things rather than try to control more and more and not do anything very well. I think that is more along the lines of what the founding fathers had in mind. I also believe that much of what is done in Washington should be done at the state level allowing more differentiation on the state and regional levels. Let people decide how they want to be governed and give them the freedom to move if they disagree with local officials. Eventually, the failing policies will die because they would be competing for population. With the federal government running everything there is nowhere to hide from the abuse and infringement on our freedoms. There may need to be minimum national standards in some areas, but nothing like what we endure at present. The current system hurts some localities that would otherwise thrive in order to prop up state and local government policies that would otherwise fail. Take the minimum wage as an example. Guam was doing just fine until they had to succumb to a minimum wage law that makes sense for New York State. Now the island territory has lost most of its processing jobs and unemployment is much higher than before as jobs that pay the US national minimum wage are scarce. The cost of living in Guam is a small fraction of that of NY. Why on earth should the politicians in DC think that killing jobs in Guam was a good thing?
    13 Jun 2012, 12:04 PM Reply Like
  • K202, we agree completely. I just don't think we will be able to turn it around until catastrophic event(s) happen first. Heck, look what China had to go through to turn things around. I guess this shows how much confidence I have in our government.
    14 Jun 2012, 11:02 AM Reply Like
  • 12:26 PM First Solar (FSLR +13.5%) jumps and helps fuel a broader rally in solar stocks (TAN +4%) after stating it will hold off on closing a German solar module plant (previous) until year's end due to strong Euro demand, and is actually increasing the plant's output for the time being.The plant was originally scheduled to be shuttered in October. 48.2% of First Solar's float was shorted as of May 15, and shares remain down sharply over the last 12 months. Comment! [Tech, Energy, On the Move]
    12 Jun 2012, 12:31 PM Reply Like
  • Makes sense, good gamble for them, the Germans have another election coming up and the Center-right Merkel group is in big trouble, probably will lose big, but certainly cannot avoid playing politics with issues which could otherwise be used as a club to beat them (like the solar/wind subsidies).

    Of course, if the elections in this country go the other way, and they are looking like they will, the equation needs to include that likely outcome as well.

    Overall, I believe we are not the only ones seeing things this way, LT, and the current price action could be the result.

    I believe this is potentially linked to the wild claims coming out of A123 about a new wonder battery which solves all the existing problems. Its much lighter, holds more energy, costs almost nothing, and is extremely safe! And just in time to keep A123 from augering into a final death spiral!

    This has energized the moribund altenergy sector, of course...

    If, as I believe, this is actually just some very purposeful loose talk about immature research (rather than a real product) which will probably never pan out to anything... The pop will be transitory and the result will be a nasty death for A123.

    But hey, maybe ex post machina really DOES work, and Zeus really is going to swoop down and save A123 at the penultimate second.
    12 Jun 2012, 12:38 PM Reply Like
  • I wonder if this is a swing for cleantech in light of central bank printing possibilities that could bring just a little more government subsidies to greendom -- one last fling with the green thing.
    12 Jun 2012, 12:48 PM Reply Like
  • The future is mixed. A new left government in France is already adding new money to the altenergy kitty in Europe, while the Germans (as mentioned above) are following suit, with the strong likelihood that their next Bundestag will be dominated by a Left/Green coalition.

    Spain went the other way, now has a center-right government which has pointedly detached the altenergy leach from their dwindling treasury. Any further support they get will NOT be flowing that direction.

    The new UK government is now thoroughly centrist, but the population is behind the green myth and the anthrowarmist theory.

    In the US, the prospects are for funding for altenergy to dry up dramatically, though not altogether. This prospect, added to the high profile government funding scandals and failing altenergy headliners everywhere, has already resulted in a general flight (sector rotation) out of the sector.

    Europe is likely to remain the bright beacon, at least until the last few Germans with money have their pockets picked by their neighbors.

    As the Iron Lady once so famously observed (and I am quoting from memory, so bear with any errors please):

    "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money".
    12 Jun 2012, 01:00 PM Reply Like
  • Don't forget, Germany numbers has been gradually trending down right now...Merkel does not want to lose that many employed people so therefor...kick the can down the road until the next election..
    (where have I heard that before)
    12 Jun 2012, 01:12 PM Reply Like
  • Pol's are lining up at the door already - to raise taxes and start spending again in Jan.
    http://yhoo.it/KqHr3x
    12 Jun 2012, 02:06 PM Reply Like
  • this should be interesting to see play out....just ship it to where ever and add the price tag on arrival & it's now made in USA (or EZ)

    2:57 PM JA Solar (JASO +6.7%), China's largest solar cell maker, says it may move production out of China to evade U.S. anti-dumping tariffs, CEO Peng Fang says in comments highlighting growing tensions between European and U.S. governments and the Chinese state over its aid for renewable energy companies. Comment! [Tech, Energy]
    12 Jun 2012, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • LT: Would American workers stamp "made in USA" on the Chinese solar panels?

    That makes it a US domestic product, doesn't it?
    12 Jun 2012, 03:16 PM Reply Like
  • by all means it has to be american citizens...we do have to be "legal"
    12 Jun 2012, 03:38 PM Reply Like
  • SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) -- Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Russia is sending attack helicopters to Syria and is concerned the arms shipment will escalate the conflict, according to media reports Tuesday. Clinton reportedly said that the shipment "will escalate the conflict quite dramatically." Earlier in the day, the U.N.'s head of peacekeeping operations, Herve Ladsous, told Reuters that the 15-month-old conflict in Syria between the regime of President Bashar al-Assad and opposition groups has degenerated into a civil war.
    12 Jun 2012, 03:43 PM Reply Like
  • We have been down this road before. Are the Russians interested in another run of helecopters vs stingers. Some how they seem to have missed the "fool me once, shame on"..... well we all know the story. Russians I am not so sure of.

    Hillarys reset with Putin must have erased their hard drive.
    12 Jun 2012, 04:50 PM Reply Like
  • If given a map, I betcha the Syrian rebels could find that long lost "cache of the shoulder fired antiaircraft missiles".

    They have been buried in the dessert for all those years..............:-)
    12 Jun 2012, 05:04 PM Reply Like
  • Difference this time is that Russia is just the vendor. When those helicopters start falling out of the sky, Syrians will be at the controls and piled in back.

    I'm just hoping that it will also be Syrians shooting them down.
    12 Jun 2012, 08:18 PM Reply Like
  • I seem to recall a promise in 2008 that our foreign policy would get better and the U.S. would be better-liked around the world due to more effective negotiations. We were supposed to be entering an era of sustained peace, better-paying jobs, and everything for everyone. What ever happened to all that?
    12 Jun 2012, 10:59 PM Reply Like
  • It went the way of all bumper stickers...

    To the big pile of razor scrapings in hell.
    12 Jun 2012, 11:11 PM Reply Like
  • The world is indeed a different place now. Should the OPFOR in Syria get MANPADS it won't be just Russian made choppers at risk.
    13 Jun 2012, 10:20 AM Reply Like
  • Robert,

    I asked you a question a little over half the way up this QC about the Swiss Franc again. I had some new thoughts about it and wanted to see what your view might be. Joseph had an interesting recommendation in the comment that followed. This is in case you missed it since I posted over the weekend.
    13 Jun 2012, 12:09 PM Reply Like
  • Greetings masked man. My apologies for the delayed response. I had seen it on Monday and Josephs reply, but lost track of it, while playing catch up. I think the Swiss will have to remove their peg soon as I anticipate rough times ahead for the Euro. It may dissolve completely if Germany decides to leave it and return to the Mark or if the EZ debt crises causes the EU to disintegrate. I posted a link to some comments Soros made over the weekend to that effect on the EZ stability blog. http://bit.ly/OAIBYb As we know Soros doesn't predict these things with uncanny accuracy he actively pursues them to make them happen.
    13 Jun 2012, 05:34 PM Reply Like
  • Hello Robert... good response. I will add one thing to it,
    re: Soros
    He gave them 90 days, and you can bet things move faster now, Spain, Italy, Greece again after this weekends elections, then quickly thru the rest of the EZ.
    Short of worldwide effort, I just do not see how they survive intact.
    13 Jun 2012, 05:45 PM Reply Like
  • Geithner : 2% growth rate won't cut it for jobs & a message to EZ
    http://bit.ly/LXHgKE
    13 Jun 2012, 05:52 PM Reply Like
  • Read betweent he lines...

    The US just officially signed on to help the formation of the US of E.

    Oh, and if anyone was still doubting that the Bush tax cuts would be extended (again), that's a foregone conclusion, and now the only thing to talk about to the Republicrats is the debt ceiling, which should be another "extension" as such.
    13 Jun 2012, 07:44 PM Reply Like
  • A FED report released over the week end states massive destruction of wealth for American families caused by the recession. http://onforb.es/KGxIzU Voldemorts crew says that it's proof positive that it's all bushes fault. Unfortunately neither is accurate in so far as who has suffered the most or who's fault it was/is. There are far fewer high income earners now than there were in 2007. http://on.wsj.com/Nz43hY
    13 Jun 2012, 06:10 PM Reply Like
  • Robert, "...the private sector is doing fine..."

    Its the new mantra, now everybody repeat:

    "...the private sector is doing fine..."
    ooooohmmmmm
    "...the private sector is doing fine..."
    oooohhhhhmm...

    If you repeat a lie often enough and loud enough, you can always fool a certain portion of the herd into believing it.
    13 Jun 2012, 07:48 PM Reply Like
  • Wasn't that one of the things Hank Paulson and W. told us in the summer of 2008?
    14 Jun 2012, 08:22 AM Reply Like
  • "...the private sector is doing fine..."

    (everyone SING)

    "...the private sector is doing fine..."

    (and yes, its a universal nostrum, good medicine for all political ideologies that share the need to perpetuate Big Lies to rule)

    "...the private sector is doing fine..."

    oooohhhmmmm
    14 Jun 2012, 08:38 AM Reply Like
  • Quote from article by Steve Hansen:

    http://bit.ly/KoxzpJ

    "The supply chain inflation continues to be inverted - with deflation in the crude and intermediate goods portion of the index. Historically, crude goods trends drive finished goods trends. The Producer Price Index (http://bit.ly/LmKBjM) finished goods prices increased 0.7% year-over-year in May 2012 (less than the 1.9% in April) - and declined 1.0% month-over-month.

    "The PPI represents inflation pressure (or lack thereof) that migrates into consumer prices - and the PPI continues to moderate. This moderation in PPI has global aspects. The market had been expecting a 0.4% to 0.7% month-over-month contraction in finished goods prices (compared to the 1.0% contraction)."

    Confirmation that inflation is moderating. I look at the European recession (ongoing), the lack of energy in the faltering American economy, belt tightening in China, and a dollar strengthening due to the euro's demise as presenting this result. Oil going down in price is the cherry on top...
    13 Jun 2012, 08:10 PM Reply Like
  • Energy Independence should be focus / Both Renewable Energy & fossil fuels needed to achieve it and both create jobs

    http://bit.ly/LZGUmQ
    14 Jun 2012, 04:38 AM Reply Like
  • Pretty good article on Robotics - could be a winner in here
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    14 Jun 2012, 05:26 AM Reply Like
  • Good article, LT, and very pertinent to our discussion above regarding Chinese abuse of intellectual property rights. I would hope Apple follows in Cannon's footsteps:

    "... even though robots might be situated in China, making goods for Apple, it is hard to see how China as a country benefits. Unless, of course, someone steals Apple's secrets. Maybe Canon has the right strategy - with robots you can take production back home."
    14 Jun 2012, 05:57 AM Reply Like
  • I think as the future unfolds, APPL especially is going to come under scrutiny & immense pressure not as a MSFT monopoly...but to bring jobs back to the USA.
    I won't go into the possibilities of penalties or tax breaks to hire in the USA...but I think next year, the pols will redo some things and at least offer incentives for hiring here. Penalties....who knows.
    14 Jun 2012, 06:40 AM Reply Like
  • Only one thing is needed...

    FairTax.

    We would promptly go from high unemployment and a rotting economy to a labor shortage and long term growth economy requiring loosening of existing (though currently unenforced) immigration laws.
    14 Jun 2012, 07:23 AM Reply Like
  • Here is the first attack on cash rich companies to help the USA:
    http://bit.ly/KwhwaH
    14 Jun 2012, 09:58 AM Reply Like
  • Its the season for companies pretending to be "American" to find a microphone and talk about their sacrifices creating American jobs...

    They then leave the interview and cut checks to both Demicans and Republicrats to cover that side of the bet.

    Then they return to figuring out how to earn more money in tax havens overseas that they can use to exploit new markets far away from the Washington tax bite.

    So, this $39billion company created (or preserved, must use the new pc angle) 150 American jobs this past year...

    Impressed... I am not.

    Of course I don't really BLAME these companies for what they do. They are just reacting to the cattle prod of government. If we want them to behave differently, we should elect a government which might dial back the voltage a few amps... BUT I do not hesitate to pop any smoke rings they blow seeking to seize the patriotic or moral high ground.
    14 Jun 2012, 10:10 AM Reply Like
  • >LT ... You use the word "attack". Odd. I'm sure Schulz just created 150 permanent customers for morning coffee in two locations and might have implemented 2 profit centers for his business. True that his margin on product produced may not be as high as could be garnered from a $.60/day Asian, but Asians, by & large, don't drink coffee.

    Today, on CNBC (God help me, I had the volume on), the CEO of (IP) was saying that his problem right now is aggregate demand. Tax cuts are nice. Subsidized credit for workers is nice. Neither do anything for demand. Exports won't bring prosperity because markets abroad aren't big enough. Spending that doesn't start with or filter down to worker levels won't help. He needs orders. Orders come from customers which, it just so happens, need to employees.

    So what is the attack?
    14 Jun 2012, 10:25 AM Reply Like
  • So, this $39billion company created (or preserved, must use the new pc angle) 150 American jobs this past year..."

    multiply that x500 (S&P 500, Fortune 500, APPL x 1 million)
    14 Jun 2012, 10:26 AM Reply Like
  • 500x150 = 65,000 jobs...

    Sorry LT, still unimpressed, and that metric implies that the average size of the S&P 500 is about $40billion market cap (I don't know what it is, but I doubt its that high).

    Logically Apple as about 13 times the market cap of Starbucks, so they might be expected (following the Bux example) to add 1950 jobs.

    Sentiment is not to be trusted as a motivation for corporations to add labor cost in hard times.

    There is no substitute for a serious tax overhaul.

    Let the corporate giants crunch real-world numbers which hammer them into pulling foreign investments into the US and employing Americans. I would leave the sentiment to the churches, that is their proper bailiwick.
    14 Jun 2012, 10:37 AM Reply Like
  • read earlier posts, the attack is going to be by media and others trying to force some of that $2 trillion overseas and some % of profits to benefit the biggest mkt, which is the USA.... call it a push, attack, or whatever, but a push to stop hoarding cash and move jobs here.

    It should be obvious to you that demand is down because unemployment it up. No job = no money = can't buy.
    14 Jun 2012, 11:11 AM Reply Like
  • I don't disagree, but 65,000 less unemployed is better than the 8000 increase we just had. Things were clicking along pretty good with unemployment dropping 60-70,000 at a time.

    Sentiment isn't a factor to me. I agree with the last paragraph too.
    14 Jun 2012, 11:13 AM Reply Like
  • I agree with you completely, tripleblack. There would be a nationwide hiring spree. Unemployment would be solved promptly.
    14 Jun 2012, 11:19 AM Reply Like
  • LT, we just can't count on the sentimental job initiative to repeat month after month. These fantasy numbers aren't monthly, they're yearly. The vision of the CEOs basking in the warm limelight of public media adoration because they added a few hundred token jobs this year would be obnoxious in the extreme.
    14 Jun 2012, 11:24 AM Reply Like
  • MS-PA - How risky is Morgan Stanley Preferred A shares?
    I am looking for some higher yield investments with some growth, Is the EZ a 100% threat to MS survival ?

    http://seekingalpha.co...
    14 Jun 2012, 05:44 AM Reply Like
  • 5:57 AM With the eurozone debt crisis again threatening to spiral out of control, Angela Merkel is ready to drop her opposition to the idea of a €2.3T "Redemption Pact" that would repay excess sovereign debt over 20 years, The Daily Telegraph reports. The concept is modeled on Alexander Hamilton's Sinking Fund in 1790, which was used to pay off debts from the American revolutionary war. [Global & FX, Top Stories] Comment!
    14 Jun 2012, 06:37 AM Reply Like
  • When this comes (and it has been coming for years) look carefully at the mice type for the escape clause... It will be the next signpost to the future.
    14 Jun 2012, 07:25 AM Reply Like
  • 7:50 AM "Trucking trends are reflective of an economic environment that is stable, not deteriorating," writes Baird's Ben Hartford, who says data showing rising shipments confirm anecdotal reports of May ending on a strong note. The economy has never contracted without for-hire truck-tonnage (still rising) turning negative. Comment! [U.S. Economy]
    7:44 AM Emerging markets are starting to regain some of their investment appeal. Shares are beginning to look cheap after falling nearly 20% from the year's highs and investors are encouraged that central banks in China, Brazil and elsewhere are taking steps to boost growth. The MSCI Emerging Markets Index could gain over 30% by year-end, says Morgan Stanley. 1 Comment [Quick Ideas]
    14 Jun 2012, 07:54 AM Reply Like
  • "Stable" trends is an interesting topic...

    In my experience there is almost always a point where "stable" means "flatline"... And where "flatline" moves up or down to form a point of decision. Then "stable" changes to whatever comes next.

    The whole idea of watching shipping is to try to judge what comes next.

    OK, shipping shows either no or very weak growth. What is happening which will improve that picture? Conversely, what is happening to make the picture worse?

    As usual, the shipping numbers are telling us something valuable: It could go either way.
    14 Jun 2012, 08:18 AM Reply Like
  • Banks have turned up this week, I think partly because of MJ's comment that the banksters gave things a boost in support of Dimon's testimony yesterday.

    Otherwise, they seem to have stabilized higher than last year and may be trying to stage a small rally. I am watching closely for an entry. That's why I asked earlier about MS.
    14 Jun 2012, 07:56 AM Reply Like
  • Speaking of banks: http://bit.ly/LEv5D8
    14 Jun 2012, 08:17 AM Reply Like
  • I think since the grilling of Jamie was subdued the banks are breathing a sigh of relief. Its just that simple.
    14 Jun 2012, 08:48 AM Reply Like
  • JPAU, I have seen that story around a few times in emails. It is absolutely unbelievable. I would think his widow has a vulture lawyer by now that will exact some retribution for this, while collecting his 30-50% fee from the widows settlement.

    Even vultures have a function cleaning up the trash.
    14 Jun 2012, 09:00 AM Reply Like
  • Due to the extreme volatility some market analysts foresee could result in the coming days, OANDA fxTrade will not accept any trading activity from 6:00 AM EST until approximately 3:00 PM EST, on Sunday, June 17, 2012

    http://bit.ly/LM5mJT

    In otherwards they are recommending that you not have any open positions in the euro this weekend. They are scared shitless and have warned their clients to STAY OUT.
    14 Jun 2012, 08:51 AM Reply Like
  • Probably the best advice they have given all year. Greece elections seem to be the topic for the week.
    14 Jun 2012, 09:35 AM Reply Like
  • http://yhoo.it/L7oe5k

    Pay particular attention to the plans laid out by Japan.

    Unlimited access to US Fed dollars...

    40trillion yen asset purchase fund...

    Direct intervention to prevent the yen from increasing in value...

    China is set to do the same...

    The Swiss are looking at Capital Controls...

    And everyone seems to be poised to pull trillion dollar rabbits out of the free window at the Fed.
    14 Jun 2012, 09:51 AM Reply Like
  • DIA & SPY .. listen to the credit markets:
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    14 Jun 2012, 10:03 AM Reply Like
  • Good summary of the new EZ plan:

    Is $3 trillion euros enough to save the EU ?
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    14 Jun 2012, 10:28 AM Reply Like
  • no
    19 Jun 2012, 10:24 AM Reply Like

  • A constitutional court ruling on Thursday means that the whole of the lower house of Egypt's parliament will be dissolved and a new election will have to be held, the court's head Farouk Soltan told Reuters by telephone after the ruling was issued.

    "The ruling regarding parliament includes the dissolution of the lower house of parliament in its entirety because the law upon which the elections were held is contrary to rules of the constitution," he said, speaking two days before another election to pick a new president.

    Soltan said the ruling was binding on all institutions of state, adding that it would be up to the executive to call for the new election that he said would take place.
    14 Jun 2012, 01:09 PM Reply Like
  • Any comments on Art Cashin's warning?
    http://bit.ly/Kqrjha
    14 Jun 2012, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • Egypt is a dangerious development. I don’t agree with his simplification for Europe. For one thing, the funding for Spain has not yet been established. I think its wishful thinking that Syriza is not going to win the election. The way I see it, Greek defaults irrespective of who wins the election.

    PS: France just got downgraded.
    14 Jun 2012, 02:43 PM Reply Like
  • Watch the market turn on the downgrade news.
    14 Jun 2012, 02:50 PM Reply Like
  • I see the Greek elections as a poll of the national emotions. Those with pride are liable to reject the Syriza avenue, even if they normally vote leftist - while fearful centrists are liable to run to the Syriza image of standing up to their neighbors. The more intellectual will split between the center-right coalition members and the old-line left which signed off on the austerity commitments.

    I don't think any of them will get an outright majority, and the smaller parties may once again refuse to play ball.

    How many government resets does their constitution allow? These mulligans are getting costly for them...
    14 Jun 2012, 03:05 PM Reply Like
  • 5:36 AM Deutsche Bank carries out the first cross-border yuan payment transaction under a trial scheme to make it much easier for businesses to settle trade in the renminbi. It's all part of China's step-by-step plan to internationalize the currency. 1 Comment
    15 Jun 2012, 07:27 AM Reply Like
  • 10:24 AM There's a bright side to the euro crisis for the U.S. economy, as foreigners stepped up their investment with $28.7B in Q1, the 12th straight quarter of positive flows. Foreign direct investment in the U.S. in 2011 totaled $234B, a 14% jump Y/Y, with two-thirds of the cash coming from Europeans no doubt seeking a haven from their region's debt crisis. Comment! [U.S. Economy]
    15 Jun 2012, 10:28 AM Reply Like
  • Going through old articles from SA as yet unread. Found an interesting one regarding PMs and capacity utilization.

    "Capacity Utilization Rate In April 2012 At 79.2% Pointing To Inflation" from May.

    http://seekingalpha.co...

    His primary thought is that PMs will shortly experience upward pressure.

    That led me to get curious and led me to some data that suggests the article's conclusions may not come to fruition as soon as predicted. Courtesy of the Federal Reserve, the capacity utilization hasn't continued the trend in a consistent fashion.

    http://1.usa.gov/KaStUC

    I used the above link so that we could see the 6/15/2012, and any subsequent releases, regardless of the "current" release.

    HardToLove
    16 Jun 2012, 03:57 PM Reply Like
  • I am questioning the theory that capacity utilization is necessarily joined at the hip with PM prices in the first place. I can imagine any number of scenarios in which PM prices would go up while capacity utilization went down (and vice versa).

    I might follow this as an interesting concept, but I would not invest money based upon it.
    16 Jun 2012, 06:20 PM Reply Like
  • TB: My thinking was that he's using it as a proxy for a leading indicator for inflation, which he surmises would levitate PM prices.

    There seems some sense in that if one assumes increased capacity utilization leads to upward pricing pressures on the resources.

    Anyway, I just found it interesting in that I hadn't before seen someone link PM prices with that.

    HardToLove
    16 Jun 2012, 06:27 PM Reply Like
  • I'd buy the thinking for all commodities BUT Gold (in particular), since Gold behaves as a currency replacement and asset class rather than a consumed commodity. All non-pm commodities would be a better logical match. Silver, platinum, palladium, etc behave more like commodities, but all are creeping rapidly toward asset class as their prices escalate and this impacts their industrial utility.

    This theory might be useful in differentiating between a "normal" economic condition (say, an average recession) and scary deflation levels capable of wrecking a society (such as we flirted with in 2008 and 2009). Therefore it might be interesting to take his example and expand the analysis backward to "normal" recessionary periods and see if the logic still holds. I suspect it would not, or be so uncertain as to be useless.

    These indication-hunters remind me of the more limited military and political leaders, who spend all their time preparing to re-fight the last war rather than prevent the next one.
    16 Jun 2012, 07:00 PM Reply Like
  • Must read

    This article has some good stuff, sure reinforces my complaint of the Fed shrinking their balance sheet at the annual rate of 10% in 2012 so far. This in some ways explains the slow down, rise in dollar, and skewed numbers.

    $2 T US DOLLAR SHORTAGE
    http://bloom.bg/MYZvwM
    18 Jun 2012, 06:31 AM Reply Like
  • So true, LT. Those cheap fx swaps offered by the Fed to the ECB continue contributing to the USD shortage. At the rate of $10B+ USD's during some weeks (like we saw at the end of May) -- the end of the US taxpayer funding EZ governments is no where in sight. http://seekingalpha.co...
    18 Jun 2012, 07:21 AM Reply Like
  • HENRY is a new acronym for me, but I like it.

    I am not looking for the consumer to ever come back like we knew it in the past, and increased consumer debt does not fly anymore. Growth must be fueled by something other than debt, I am not predicting a crash, but with tech stocks paying dividends now, big corps increasing dividends, things could just turn flat...of course indexes can still go up with the "re-indexing of new companies" into the make-up.

    http://bloom.bg/MZm6cG
    18 Jun 2012, 08:24 AM Reply Like
  • After 40 years in this business, I've been through the looking-glass and down the rabbit-hole enough times that nothing should surprise me in this topsy-turvy Wonderland. But I do confess to a certain bemusement when I see not just Wall Street, but even real investors, celebrate that industrial production is down, consumer spending is down, housing prices won't budge, unemployment remains high, taxes are going up, Europe is going down the drain, etc,, all because that must mean we're going to get another fix from our current dealer of street drugs, the Fed.
    I want to shake such "investors" by the shoulders, look them in the eye, and with as much quiet clarity as I can muster, relay that getting a cheap high for a few minutes or even a few months is not the same as getting clean. Our nation needs to get clean. Our markets will follow.
    18 Jun 2012, 10:33 AM Reply Like
  • I was cogitating the odd market response to "good" news from Europe and China this week, and its apparent that the reaction IS that of an addict denied his QE crack.

    I suppose this sort of behavior is a factor that an adept investor can add to the lexicon...

    But its a redefinition which nauseates the thoughtful.
    18 Jun 2012, 10:36 AM Reply Like
  • Trip - I was surprised also that there has been no relief rally this morning after all the hype last week about how important the Greek elections would be to markets this week. A "positive" outcome begets no response; flat market. It really does look like the only thing the market is looking for is that next Fed Fix. What a sorry state of confusion this has become.
    18 Jun 2012, 11:12 AM Reply Like
  • Excellent and succinct comment Mr. Shaefer.

    Easy money is like easy meth: http://bit.ly/LweLWz
    19 Jun 2012, 10:30 AM Reply Like
  • FedEx lowers guidance, and a slew of other companies too such as Danone & JC Penny. I expected this to come & expect more to follow.

    Has anyone seen any meat out of the G-20 ? I have not.
    They are trying to present an image of global cooperation, but it appears very weak to me.
    19 Jun 2012, 08:07 AM Reply Like
  • New QuickChat is this way:

    http://seekingalpha.co...
    19 Jun 2012, 08:23 AM Reply Like
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