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  • THERE IS NO GOD BUT GLOBAL WARMING AND ALGORE IS HIS PROFIT 32 comments
    Oct 27, 2009 11:23 AM | about stocks: AFL, GS, GE, AQNT, MSFT

    TEXT of the Copenhagen Treaty

     

    THERE IS NO GOD BUT GLOBAL WARMING, AND ALGORE IS HIS PROPHET


    “The earth has a fever! And the fever is rising…[Something] basic is wrong. WE are what is wrong…If we continue at the present rate, virtually all the species of fish in the ocean will be extinct in the next 50 years…sea-level increases of 20 feet or more worldwide…We have seen the impact of a couple hundred thousand refugees from an environmental crisis like Katrina. Imagine 100 or 200 million!” – Al Gore


    So the fanatical haters of humans and industry would have us believe:  coal-fired power plants, our barbecue pits, and our very breath have brought us to the Brink of Disaster.  Poor Gaia, prostrate Mother Earth, ravaged by a cancer called humanity!  Carbon dioxide (CO2) emitted by burning ex-plants, whether renewable wood or “fossil” fuels, is causing temperatures to rise.  Too many people on the planet!  Their breath emits more of the pollutant CO2!  Their vast herds of cows and other food animals fart potent clouds of methane into the atmosphere.  These greenhouse gases (NYSE:GG) trap incoming solar heat to the earth, temperatures rise, Catastrophe Looms:  rising temperatures beget rising  oceans that release yet more GG that traps more heat, and voilá! runaway Global Warming.  We get cooked.  And drowned.  The planet dies.

     

     

    Harass your Senator with calls, emails, letters.  Sign a petition to stop Congress from crippling us based on falsified alarmism:  here (1.8k signatures), here (70k signatures), here (179k signatures).

     

    If you meet the qualifications (degree in science), sign this high-impact Global Warming Petition and send it in.  Congress MUST be stopped from enacting Cap-n-Trade, the EPA must be stopped from its contemplated regulation of Greenhouse Gases, and Obama's Copenhagen Treaty must not be ratified by the Senate.



    Our world faces a true planetary emergency. I know the phrase sounds shrill, and I know it's a challenge to the moral imagination.” – Al Gore



    Cattle (1.5 billion worldwide) are “responsible for 18% of “human-related” greenhouse gas (hrGG) emissions, more than all transportation combined, according to Livestock’s Long Shadow, a 2006 “report” from the UN Food and Agriculture Organization.  Actually, it is 4% of hrGG, but various formulae transform cow flatulence and manure into a threat greater than jets and the internal combustion engine.  And those ruminants produce 64% of “human-related” ammonia, which – get this – “contributes significantly to acid rain.”


    Well.  Ammonia is a base.  It reduces acidity, acts to neutralize acid, for those who missed high school chemistry.  And, how strange that the enormous population of cows, buffalo and bison (500 million – 1 billion) in the 1800’s didn’t give us Acidified Oven Earth…

     


    The planet has a FEVER! If your baby has a fever, you go to the doctor. If the doctor says you need to intervene here, you don't say, 'Well, I read a science fiction novel that told me it's not a problem.' If the crib's on fire, you don't speculate that the baby is flame retardant. You take action!” – Al Gore

     

    The European Union (NYSEARCA:EU) is hot to take action!  They are pursuing a new Emissions Trading Scheme Item for Cow Farts


      At $175 per cow, it matches that under consideration by the EPA here.  Dairy and beef operators would face bankruptcy if these regulations go into effect, and prices will have to increase to keep solvent.  Add the effect of increased oil prices baked into Carbon Tax legislation, and we will pay even more: $6 per pound MORE for meat, more for milk (get ready for $8/gal), butter etc., and pay EXTRA in other ways to fund the offsets the industries will surely get Congress to pass.

     

      All farmers would be affected: “Crop production emits nitrous oxide from fertilizer and methane from rice production, and fields that emit 100 tons of carbon would also be subject to permitting requirements as well. Any Florida farm with 500 acres of corn, 250 acres of soybeans, 350 acres of potatoes or only 35 acres of rice would be forced to obtain Clean Air Act permits.”  And forced to buy Carbon Credits.  And pay Goldman-Sachs hefty brokerage fees to trade them.  And pass the costs along to us.  Bread at $9 a loaf.  Low-cost, mass-produced American beer at $17 per sixpack.

     

     

    “Nobody is interested in solutions if they don’t think there’s a problem. Given that starting point, I believe it is appropriate to have an overrepresentation of factual presentations on how dangerous it [global warming] is, as a predicate for opening up the audience to listen to what the solutions are, and how hopeful it is that we are going to solve this crisis.” – Al Gore


     

    The outrageous exaggerations and outright lies in his despicable propaganda "An Inconvenient Truth" are ubiquitous.  Congress and the EPA are enacting laws based on that prairie pizza.  Schoolchildren across the world BELIEVE.  They have been successfully indoctrinated and some are already VOTING.  In England, the High Court ruled that 9 errors were so serious that the movie could no longer be shown in schools without an accompanying presentation of its fallacies.  The Court ruled that

     

    "if the UK Government had not agreed to send to every secondary school in England a corrected guidance note making clear the mainstream scientific position on these nine “errors”, he would have made a finding that the Government’s distribution of the film and the first draft of the guidance note earlier in 2007 to all English secondary schools had been an unlawful contravention of an Act of Parliament prohibiting the political indoctrination of children.  

     

    The major exaggerations and lies are rebutted, soundly, scientifically, in Lord Monckton's 35 Inconvenient Truths: The errors in Al Gore’s movie.  And yet the MSM continues to spout the Religionist lies.  Algore was awarded an Emmy, Oscars, and the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize (shared with the infamous IPCC) for this pack of poop.  Liberals, Statists and One-Worlders are very keen to continue the push toward UN control of nations by Treaties promising to fight "Climate Change."  At the Minnesota Freemarket Institute Conference on Friday 10/23/09, Monckton noted that:

     

    "At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

     

    I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfaction of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

    How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it."

     

    The tactics and goals of Islamofascist Jihad and the Global Warming Pushers mesh perfectly.  Read Have we no Hannan, no Wilders?.  Note the warnings of Geert Wilders:

    It is clear that not everyone sees the danger. I quote a prominent American, who recently won a Nobel Prize: "Throughout history, Islam had demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance", and "Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism, it is an important part of promoting peace", and "We celebrate a great religion, and its commitment to justice and progress". End of quote. I strongly have to disagree with this assessment. Islam has nothing in common with tolerance or peace or justice!

    President Obama also celebrated the fact that when the first Muslim-American was elected to Congress, he took the oath using the same Koran that one of the Founding Fathers - Thomas Jefferson - kept in his personal library. It is interesting to know that Thomas Jefferson in 1801 was about to wage war against the Islamic 'Barbary' states of Northern Africa to stop the pillaging of ships and enslavement of more than a million Christians.

    The ambassador of these Muslim nations told Thomas Jefferson and John Adams that Muslims find the justification for their slaughter and enslavement of kafir in the Koran. Now I ask you, dear friends, could it be that Thomas Jefferson did not keep a copy of the Koran because he admired Islam but because he wanted to understand the ruthless nature of his enemies?

    Recently the United States joined Egypt in sponsoring an anti-free speech resolution in the UN Human Rights Council. You know that council that itself is an insult to human rights since the worst human rights offenders of the world like Cuba, Saudi-Arabia and Pakistan are members. The Obama-administration and Europe supported a resolution to recognize exceptions to free speech to any negative religious stereotyping. This appeasement of the non-free Arab world is the beginning of the end. An erosion of free speech and your own First Amendment. This UN resolution is an absolute disgrace.

    As Professor Jonathan Turley of the George Washington University yesterday so rightfully stated in the newspaper USA Today, and I quote: "Criticism of religion is the very measure of the guarantee of free speech - the literal sacred institution of society" - end of quote. That the weak leaders of my own continent Europe supported such a terrible resolution does not come as a surprise to me. But it's a sad thing that for the first time in history, the American administration has taken a leading role against our right to free speech.

     

     

    As Algore has become the Prophet of the GW Religion, the UN has become its Temple and repository of the Sacred Writings.  The UN is the premier Institutional peddlar of the Global Warming Scam through its creature, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, chartered in 1988 under UN Resolution A/RES/43/53 entitled “Protection of global climate for present and future generations of mankind.”  The resolution states in plain doublespeak the UN’s “concern that the emerging evidence indicates that continued growth in atmospheric concentrations of "greenhouse" gases could produce global warming with an eventual rise in sea levels, the effects of which could be disastrous for mankind if timely steps are not taken at all levels,” and directs the IPCC to “provide internationally co-ordinated scientific assessments of the magnitude, timing and potential environmental and socio-economic impact of climate change and realistic response strategies.”


    In plain English, the UN is already sure that Global Warming is occurring, that its consequences will be bad, and charges the IPCC to document global warming, predict its timing and consequences, and recommend what the UN should tell governments to do to stop it.


    The IPCC has issued four “Assessment Reports” (1990, 1995, 20012007) with increasingly alarmist tones that promote the following notions:


    1    The climate as of now (or that of 1900) is optimal. We must not let it change.  We can stop it changing.

    2  The planet is warming.  Global Warming = Climate Change.

    3 The warming is wholly or mainly anthropogenic (caused by Man).

    4     Man and his activities emit greenhouse gases (GG) that cause the warming, the worst being carbon dioxide (CO2) and methane, which turns into COover time in the air.

    5    If we do not reduce CO2 emissions, temperatures will rise past the “tipping point” and runaway self-reinforcing Global Warming will occur.

    6     Observed temperature and sea-level increases, and glacier / polar ice decreases, indicate that we are at or near the “tipping point.”

    7    Runaway Global Warming will result in:

       a   massive, killing air temperature increases (5–20 ºC)

       b massive, fish-killing sea temperature increases

       c   flooding, tidal waves, 20-ft (Algore) or 2-ft (NASDAQ:IPCC) rises in sea level

    8  Life – plant, animal, human – will suffer horribly, die out to a great extent, and the planet will essentially be killed

    9   Valiant, forward-thinking and Earth-friendly Ecowarriors can best fight hrGG emissions by instituting Carbon Taxes.  (“Taxes” being unpopular, most countries use Carbon Reduction Plan, Cap-and-Trade, or other PC terms).

    10   Those who do not join #9 to stop #2–8 above will hasten the day #8 arrives and deserve any mistreatment and will go straight to HELL.  Convert, or die.



    The Global Warming Religionists claim that the “science is settled.”  Debate is pointless, “there is a scientific consensus.”  Those who raise questions or present opposing evidence are publicly hounded, ridiculed, blacklisted.  Scientists such as Dr. Alan Carlin, an EPA science analyst, are being stifled.  He was told by his superior at the EPA in March 2009 to stop all work verifying or questioning IPCC reports.  An email was sent to him:


    The time for such discussion of fundamental issues has passed for this round. The administrator and the administration has decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision. I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office.”


    The Administration has suppressed Carlin’s report, banned him from writing or speaking about climate change, told him to forget about attending any meetings that addressed his main job function—climate change—and gave him a new assignment: updating a grants database.


    As a Ph.D. chemist, I know damn well that Science is not Law, and terms like “consensus” and “settled” are PC doublespeak, not scientific terminology.  As a historian, when I hear “that person is out of the mainstream,” I think of Galileo.  I think of Alfred Wegener, ridiculed by the “scientific community” of the early 20th century for his theory of continental drift, and who died disgraced.  The theory was later realized to be sound, and is now taught in high school as Plate Tectonics.



    The only thing that counts in science is EVIDENCE, and it better be verifiable and reproducible.  If a theory or hypothesis is found unable to account for certain facts, it is WRONG.  If it does fit all the facts currently known, but makes predictions that turn out to be false, it is WRONG.  And even where the theory fits the facts, and makes a few predictions that are verified, it is still not proved.  Not ever.  It will always remain theory, a working hypothesis, and subject to being disproved if new facts come into evidence.


    And so, with respect to Global Warming and the Religion preached by Algore and sanctified in the United Nations, does the theory fit the facts?  Should we cripple our economies to stop Climate Change, especially since China, India, Russia and others will not go along?  Is it even within Man’s reach to guide the climate of a planet, or is that some hefty hubris?

     

     

    Most of the following information was known when the IPCC published AR4 in 2007, and all of it was known when the U.S. Congress passed its Climate Change bill.  All of it and more is known to the delegates to the Copenhagen Conference in this coming December.  The science is flawed, in some cases falsified, and in all cases evidence is insufficient to pursue Climate Change Legislation.  But the push is on, harder than ever.



    What everyone agrees on:  not much.  Temperature measurements showed a net global increase of ~0.8 ºC from 1898–1998 (land-sea surface temps), with a 0.4 ºC (land-sea surface) to 0.6 °C rise (satellite) from 1980–1998.  From 1998–2009 global temperatures dropped below the 1980 mean (satellite).  The year 2009 has not been one of the warmer on record across the world.  And measured CO2levels are increasing.  Anything else?  No.  Are surface temperature measurements reliable?  How about sea-level changes?  Long-term temperature forecast?  No.

     


                                                      Pro-Global Warming Graph using only surface temp measurements

     


     

                                 Satellite Temperature Measurements (no satellite measurements before 1979)

     


     

     

    Carlin’s report discusses six developments that render the IPCC AR4 report suspect, and notes that these are but a few of the new developments: 

    1.  The 1998–2009 rapid cooling even though hrGG levels increased and emissions accelerated, and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation has now turned negative (meaning lower temperatures to come for ~30 years);

    2.  Consensus on hurricanes changed from supporting the idea that GW is causing more frequent and intense storms to neutral: GW has no effect;

    3.  New results indicate no evidence for, and some evidence against, the operation of processes that would cause Greenland to rapidly shed its ice;

    4.  The amount of actual hrGG has far undercut IPCC assumptions;

    5.  A new 2009 paper disproves the critical IPCC assumption concerning strongly positive feedback from water vapor, and shows the feedback is actually negative;

    6.  A new 2009 paper (Scafetta and West) finds the IPCC used faulty solar data in dismissing the direct effect of solar variability on global temperatures, and that solar changes could account for 68% of the increase.


    Relevant excerpts from the literature that debunk the IPCC position on the three main points:  Temperature Changes, Greenhouse Gases as a Cause of Warming, and Sea-level Rises.  Much more information is available from downloadable .pdf full articles.

     

    1.  Temperature Changes


    Global Warming:  A Classical Case of Alarmism


     

    This is a Guest Post by Dr David Evans

    The big temperature picture. Graph and insight from Dr Syun Akasofu
    (2009 International Conference on Climate Change, New York, March 2009).


    There was a cooling scare in the early 1970s at the end of the last cooling phase. The current global warming alarm is based on the last warming oscillation, from 1975 to 2001. The IPCC predictions simply extrapolated the last warming as if it would last forever, a textbook case of alarmism. However the last warming period ended after the usual thirty years or so, and the global temperature is now definitely tracking below the IPCC predictions.

    The IPCC blames human emissions of carbon dioxide for the last warming. But by general consensus human emissions of carbon dioxide have only been large enough to be significant since 1940—yet the warming trend was in place for well over a century before that. And there was a cooling period from 1940 to 1975, despite human emissions of carbon dioxide. And there has been no warming since 2001, despite record human emissions of carbon dioxide.

    There is no actual evidence that carbon dioxide emissions are causing global warming. Note that computer models are just concatenations of calculations you could do on a hand-held calculator, so they are theoretical and cannot be part of any evidence. Although the models contain some well-established science, they also contain a myriad of implicit and explicit assumptions, guesses, and gross approximations—mistakes in any of which can invalidate the model outputs.

    The pattern suggests that the world has entered a period of slight cooling until about 2030.

    Furthermore, the missing hotspot in the atmospheric warming pattern observed during the last warming period proves that (1) the IPCC climate theory is fundamentally broken, and (2) to the extent that their theory correctly predicts the warming signature of increased carbon dioxide, we know that carbon dioxide definitely did not cause the recent warming (see here for my full explanation of the missing hotspot). The alarmists keep very quiet about the missing hotspot.

    No one knows for sure what caused the little ice age or for how many more centuries the slow warming trend will continue. It has been warmer than the present for much of the ten thousand years since the last big ice age: it was a little warmer for a few centuries in the medieval warm period around 1100 (when Greenland was settled for grazing) and also during the Roman-Climate Optimum at the time of the Roman Empire (when grapes grew in Scotland), and at least 1°C warmer for much of the Holocene Climate Optimum (four to eight thousand years ago).


     

    2.  Greenhouse Gas Emissions as a Cause for Warming

     

    From Greenhouse Warming?  What Greenhouse Warming?

    Greenhouse warming is distinguishable from other forcings 
    hPa - Left hand side
    km - Right hand side

     

    Image

    Zonal mean simulated atmospheric temperature change (ºC per century, 1890-1999), from two natural causes, three anthropogenic causes and one combined cause, simulated by the UN’s PCM model. The “hot-spot” signature of greenhouse warming is visible in (c) and (f). (IPCC, 2007, p. 675, based on Santer et al, 2003. See also IPCC, 2007, Appendix 9C).

    The UN’s diagram shows the pattern of zonal mean simulated atmospheric temperature change from 1890 to 1999, in °C per century from six causes –

    (a) natural radiative forcing from changes in solar activity;
    (b) natural radiative forcing from changes in volcanic activity;
    (c) anthropogenic radiative forcing from emissions of CO2 and other well-mixed greenhouse gases;
    (d) anthropogenic radiative forcing from changes in tropospheric and stratospheric ozone;
    (e) anthropogenic radiative forcing from pollutant sulphate aerosol particles emitted to the atmosphere; and
    (f) all natural and anthropogenic forcings combined.

    Real-world temperatures in the upper atmosphere have been measured with balloons since at least the 1960's and with microwave satellite sensors since 1979. However, the Hadley Centre’s plot of real-world radiosonde observations does not demonstrate the “global warming hot-spot” at all. The predicted phenomenon is startlingly and entirely absent from the observational record –

    No “greenhouse warming” signature is observed in reality

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    km - Right hand side
    Image

    –0.6 –0.5 –0.4 –0.3 –0.2 –0.1 0 +0.1 +0.2 +0.3 +0.4 +0.5 +0.6 ºC
    No “hot-spot” signature of anthropogenic “greenhouse warming” appears in the record of real-world temperature observations. Source: HadAT2 radiosonde observations, from CCSP (2006), p. 116, fig. 5.7E.


    The contrast between the five computer models’ predicted signature of greenhouse warming and the Hadley Centre’s plot of observed decadal rates of change in temperature could not be starker. This astonishing result is explicitly confirmed by the UN’s 2007 assessment report, which describes the near-total absence of its own predicted “hot-spot” signature of anthropogenic greenhouse warming in the observed temperature record, but apparently without appreciating its significance –


    3.  Sea-level Rises

    From an interview with Dr. Nils Axel Morner

     

    Dr. Nils-Axel Mörner is the head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University in Sweden.

    He is past president (1999-2003) of the INQUA Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution, and leader of the Maldives Sea Level Project. Dr. Mörner has been studying the sea level and its effects on coastal areas for some 35 years. He was interviewed by Gregory Murphy on June 6, 2007 for EIR.

     

     

    EIR: What is the real state of the sea-level rising?

     

    Mörner: You have to look at that in a lot of different ways. That is what I have done in a lot of different papers, so we can confine ourselves to the short story here. One way is to look at the global picture, to try to find the essence of what is going on. And then we can see that the sea level was indeed rising, from, let us say, 1850 to 1930-40. And that rise had a rate in the order of 1 millimeter per year. Not more. 1.1 is the exact figure. And we can check that, because Holland is a subsiding area; it has been subsiding for many millions of years; and Sweden, after the last Ice Age, was uplifted. So if you balance those, there is only one solution, and it will be this figure.


     That ended in 1940, and there had been no rise until 1970; and then we can come into the debate here on what is going on, and we have to go to satellite altimetry, and I will return to that. But before doing that: There’s another way of checking it, because if the radius of the Earth increases, because sea level is rising, then immediately the Earth’s rate of rotation would slow down. That is a physical law, right? You have it in figure-skating: when they rotate very fast, the arms are close to the body; and then when they increase the radius, by putting out their arms, they stop by themselves. So you can look at the rotation and the same comes up: Yes, it might be 1.1 mm per year, but absolutely not more. It could be less, because there could be other factors affecting the Earth, but it certainly could not be more. Absolutely not! Again, it’s a matter of physics. So, we have this 1 mm per year up to 1930, by observation, and we have it by rotation recording. So we go with those two. They go up and down, but there’s no trend in it; it was up until 1930, and then down again. There’s no trend, absolutely no trend.


     Another way of looking at what is going on is the tide gauge. Tide gauging is very complicated, because it gives different answers for wherever you are in the world. But we have to rely on geology when we interpret it. So, for example, those people in the IPCC [Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change], choose Hong Kong, which has six tide gauges, and they choose the record of one, which gives 2.3 mm per year rise of sea level. Every geologist knows that that is a subsiding area. It’s the compaction of sediment; it is the only record which you shouldn’t use. And if that figure is correct, then Holland would not be subsiding, it would be uplifting. And that is just ridiculous. Not even ignorance could be responsible for a thing like that. So tide gauges, you have to treat very, very carefully.


     Now, back to satellite altimetry, which shows the water, not just the coasts, but in the whole of the ocean. And you measure it by satellite. From 1992 to 2002, [the graph of the sea level] was a straight line, variability along a straight line, but absolutely no trend whatsoever. We could see those spikes: a very rapid rise, but then in half a year, they fall back again. But absolutely no trend, and to have a sea-level rise, you need a trend.


     Then, in 2003, the same data set, which in their [IPCC’s] publications, in their website, was a straight line—suddenly it changed, and showed a very strong line of uplift, 2.3 mm per year, the same as from the tide gauge. And that didn’t look so nice. It looked as though they had recorded something; but they hadn’t recorded anything. It was the original one which they had suddenly twisted up, because they entered a “correction factor,” which they took from the tide gauge. So it was not a measured thing, but a figure introduced from outside. I accused them of this at the Academy of Sciences in Moscow— I said you have introduced factors from outside; it’s not a measurement. It looks like it is measured from the satellite, but you don’t say what really happened. And they answered, that we had to do it, because otherwise we would not have gotten any trend!


     That is terrible! As a matter of fact, it is a falsification of the data set. Why? Because they know the answer. And there you come to the point: They “know” the answer; the rest of us, we are searching for the answer. Because we are field geologists; they are computer scientists. So all this talk that sea level is rising, this stems from the computer modeling, not from observations. The observations don’t find it! 


     I have been the expert reviewer for the IPCC, both in 2000 and last year. The first time I read it, I was exceptionally surprised. First of all, it had 22 authors, but none of them— none—were sea-level specialists. They were given this mission, because they promised to answer the right thing. Again, it was a computer issue. This is the typical thing: The metereological community works with computers, simple computers. Geologists don’t do that! We go out in the field and observe, and then we can try to make a model with computerization; but it’s not the first thing.


    WHO BENEFITS FROM CLIMATE CHANGE LEGISLATION?

    Follow the money.

    Algore
    (click on link for full story)
    From
    Media Ignore Al Gore's Financial Ties to Global Warming ...
    By Noel Sheppard (Bio | Archive)
    March 2, 2007

    As reported by Dan Riehl (emphasis mine throughout):


    Former Vice President Al Gore has built a Green money-making machine capable of eventually generating billions of dollars for investors, including himself, but he set it up so that the average Joe can't afford to play on Gore's terms. And the US portion is headed up by a former Gore staffer and fund raiser who previously ran afoul of both the FEC and the DOJ, before Janet Reno jumped in and shut down an investigation during the Clinton years.

    Think Katie, Charlie, or Brian will be all over this tonight? Regardless, that was just the tip of the questionably melting iceberg as reported by Bill Hobbs in Nashville, Tennessee:


    [H]ow Gore buys his "carbon offsets," as revealed by The Tennessean raises serious questions. According to the newspaper's report, Gore buys his carbon offsets through Generation Investment Management:

    Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe...

    Gore is chairman of the firm and, presumably, draws an income or will make money as its investments prosper. In other words, he "buys" his "carbon offsets" from himself, through a transaction designed to boost his own investments and return a profit to himself. To be blunt, Gore doesn't buy "carbon offsets" through Generation Investment Management - he buys stocks.

    Fascinating. So, as Dr. Global Warming travels the world in his private jet while spending 20 times the average American on energy for his home, all the time telling us its okay because he’s buying carbon offsets, he’s actually purchasing these investments from himself.

    Furthermore, and maybe more important, Gore stands to benefit financially in a potentially huge way if more and more people buy into this junk science.

    Isn’t that special?

    Yet, it is not clear that Gore’s money is going to purchase carbon offsets at all. Riehl reported:

    Here's a list indicating what it takes to make money along with Al. Funds associated with these companies have placed millions of dollars under Al Gore's control. And, as you'll see below, Gore's selection for the US President of GIM might raise a few eyebrows as well.

    AFLAC INC - AQUANTIVE INC (now MSFT property) - AUTODESK INC - BECTON DICKINSON & CO BLACKBAUD INC - GENERAL ELECTRIC CO - GREENHILL & CO INC - JOHNSON CTLS INC - LABORATORY CORP AMER HLDGS - METABOLIX INC - NORTHERN TR CORP - NUVEEN INVTS INC -STAPLES INC - SYSCO CORP - TECHNE CORP - UBS AG - VCA ANTECH INC - WATERS CORP - WHOLE FOODS MKT INC

    According to their own documents, GIM intends to invest in, or buy companies poised to cash in on Global Warming concerns.

    Putting this in perspective, for years the left and their media minions have posited that George W. Bush started war with Iraq to benefit the company Vice President Dick Cheney used to run, Halliburton, as well as Bush’s oil tycoon friends. In fact, there have been times when you couldn’t swing a dead cat in any pressroom in this nation without hitting a reporter working on such a story.

    Yet, as the former Vice President continues to plug global warming as a coming crisis in need of immediate attention, the same media completely ignore his obvious financial conflicts of interest.



    STAND AND DELIVER. 

    YOUR PORTFOLIO, YOUR LIBERTY TO HAVE A PORTFOLIO, OR YOUR LIFE.

    Point out what's happening, point out paths to solutions, or "live with it."  Or maybe not.

    Disclosure - no positions in companies or stocks mentioned


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  • optionsgirl
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    Wow,why don't you submit this as an article? I think it would get a large response but no one knows about it! Thumbs up, man!
    I've been reading some of your posts on TBP. You have fire in your belly these days. Nice photo- a definite improvement over the pumpkin head.
    2 Nov 2009, 10:00 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    I'm with OG: Please submit this as an article They may want to break it into pieces due to length, but *every* open-minded individual will benefit from it.

     

    Great work,
    HardToLove
    3 Nov 2009, 06:37 AM Reply Like
  • Freya
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    Its way too long as a single, however it could be printed as Parts 1,2,3.

     

    I've printed the Form, I was a Business Major but Paul's degree is in Math, he will submit it. He saw a show over the weekend which listed a particular Mathematical study postulating that if Man shut down All forms of CO2 emissions over the entire planet over the next 30 years, Global Warming would decrease by 1 degree.

     

    I like your common sense approach Tom (Thomas, if you wish). I went back through your comment stream.
    3 Nov 2009, 06:49 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    As a lot of you know, I'm in the science fiction trade, and therefore I hang out with some pretty strange - but smart - free thinkers. Some of them have phd's (some several), and many of them have resumes that include places like JPL, NASA, TRW and GE as employers.

     

    One of my friends has an analogy that posits the earth's carbon cycle as a large SUV. Carbon dioxide is a large and important chunk of that cycle, and there is no denying that Man has a much smaller piece of that "chunk"...

     

    Extending his numbers, which are really and literally "planetary" in size, he has computed that out of the entire corpus of the carbon cycle SUV, Man's total ongoing contribution to CO2 emissions is less than one of the SUV's lug nuts - in fact, just a few THREADS on that lug nut.

     

    We are literally immaterial to the carbon cycle, PART of it,yes, but very much along for the ride rather than driving the SUV.

     

    As for gauging the downstream EFFECT on something like Global Warming, which is itself only affected in part (and that a small part) by CO2 levels, the human effect is diluted a lot more.

     

    Here is a very good article by one of my friends on this topic:

     

    www.ldsmag.com/ideas/0...

     

    This strikes at the roots of the fraud.
    3 Nov 2009, 07:39 AM Reply Like
  • Freya
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    Triple? You are in the SciFi trade. ooohh.

     

    Howdy Partner, I still have a copy of Asimov's first foray into the Magazine world including the Illustration from The Stainless Steel Rat.

     

    These guys were the Scientific geniuses of their times, many of the New Russian writers are in the same world. They postulate, I write it down.

     

    There is a new Filter Technology which an be built to capture specific types of Molecules. I started thinking in terms of cars with Ram Scoops ala older SF space ships. Suck your fuel out of the Air.

     

    But that's neither here nor there Yet.

     

    Hmmm, different light here. I'm going to chug down your comment stream. SF types think differently, they tend to see far more than the immediate. Have to see what you've had to say in the past.

     

    I hope you don't mind, hehehe. :)
    3 Nov 2009, 09:07 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    And here is something that should interest us all too.

     

    seekingalpha.com/insta...

     

    HardToLove

     

    On Nov 03 07:39 AM tripleblack wrote:

     

    > <snip>

     

    > Here is a very good article by one of my friends on this topic:<br/>
    >
    > www.ldsmag.com/ideas/0...
    >
    > This strikes at the roots of the fraud.
    3 Nov 2009, 10:08 AM Reply Like
  • Mayascribe
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    I come from an archeology and anthropology angle about the falicy of global warming. I have written several times before here on SA that the oceans have risen by one meter during the last thousand years, proven by a study from Heather McKillop in her book titled "Salt: The White Gold Of The Ancient Maya," where she found pottery sherds and evidence of charred wood in one meter of water off the coast of Belize.

     

    These in situ sites were put in place by working ancient Mayans as they converted sea water into brine salt for trade, again underneath one meter water.

     

    I've met Heather and she has had a large impact on the implications of mankind's impact on the environment. Unfortunately, nobody who makes decisions is listening. But as a group, for the most part, the intellects who work to better understand the ancient Maya, know that the theory that global warming is caused by mankind is a farce.

     

    You can read more about her work here (or just skip to the second paragragh):

     

    findarticles.com/p/art.../

     

    By the way. Terrific article. You should forward this basket of insightful basket of knowledge to the White House, every senator, and every representative.

     

    Also, you may want to forward your article to freedomworks.com
    3 Nov 2009, 10:38 AM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Damn! Posted in the wrong thread. I'll correct that!

     

    HardToLove

     

    On Nov 03 10:08 AM H. T. Love wrote:

     

    > And here is something that should interest us all too.
    >
    > seekingalpha.com/insta...
    >
    >
    > HardToLove
    3 Nov 2009, 10:56 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    You betcha, been a pro illustrator and commercial artist since 1983.

     

    I met Isaac Asimov at the Boston World Science Fiction Convention. I had a booth in the dealer's hall trying to promote my artwork and was sketching a quick piece for too little money for a short-lived pulp magazine when a voice said "My feet are killing me - can I sit in your chair?"

     

    The huge place HAD no extra seating, but I had 2 chairs behind my table, and was only using one...

     

    Imagine my surprise when I answered "Sure", looked up, and Isaac Asimov sat down and removed his shoe and sat there rubbing his foot. I got to talk to him for several long minutes before the local fans started to clot in front of my booth and stare. People elsewhere were waiting 2 hours in line to get him to sign a book...

     

    His work truly transformed me as a boy, the Foundation series, I Robot, etc.

     

    A true transcendental genius.

     

    Harry Harrison wrote a superb series centered around a fascinating character called "The Stainless Steel Rat".

     

    On Nov 03 09:07 AM Freya wrote:

     

    > Triple? You are in the SciFi trade. ooohh.
    >
    > Howdy Partner, I still have a copy of Asimov's first foray into the
    > Magazine world including the Illustration from The Stainless Steel
    > Rat.
    >
    > These guys were the Scientific geniuses of their times, many of the
    > New Russian writers are in the same world. They postulate, I write
    > it down.
    >
    > There is a new Filter Technology which an be built to capture specific
    > types of Molecules. I started thinking in terms of cars with Ram
    > Scoops ala older SF space ships. Suck your fuel out of the Air.<br/>
    >
    > But that's neither here nor there Yet.
    >
    > Hmmm, different light here. I'm going to chug down your comment stream.
    > SF types think differently, they tend to see far more than the immediate.
    > Have to see what you've had to say in the past.
    >
    > I hope you don't mind, hehehe. :)
    3 Nov 2009, 11:04 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Freya, feel free. There's a link to my recent artwork which is on my website at stanbruns.etsy.com on my SA profile. I just focus on the artwork there - I've bailed out of the illustration gig pretty much, the wages kept dropping and the work kept getting harder and harder to find (and as one grows older, one's tolerance for fools starts to wear thin)...

     

    But over the decades I've met a LOT of the SF and F luminaries. I know Anne McCaffrey personally, spent time shuttling her around Atlanta the last time she was here (in a Mustang, naturally) - I've done work for Michael Moorcock (great fantasy author) - I've met Dean Koontz, know Janny Wortz, met Ray Bradbury, shared a podium with Tom Clancy, etc, etc. I am in NO way famous but in my own limited way, I've had some good days. I was also a worker in the SF&F Fandom fields. I ran the DragonCon artshows for 10 years - the World Science Fiction Convention show once - the World Fantasy 3 times, and World Horror twice. You get to meet lots of working professionals that way.

     

    When I talk about discussing global warming with experts, folks like Jerry Pournelle and Larry Niven spring to mind, though I will also never forget being in the room when Robert A. Heinlein informed the crowd that he WAS an "environmentalist" - but that "Humans ARE a part of the environment". It miaght have been "Technological humans...", but the other line is the famous quote.

     

    I also moderate at another website which is dedicated to a hobby of mine, cars: allfordmustangs.com where I go by tripleblack as well - check the Hot Zone if you want to see a ton of political debate. I'm a Libertarian, btw. Before that I was an Objectivist (big Ayn Rand fan, of course), which predates the Libertarian Party which didn't get cranked up until the 70's.

     

    I do not consider ANY of this as all that germane to investment advice, however. I'm just another noobie to SA who's trying to figure things out, and smart folks like yourself are the ones I AM listening to.

     

    On Nov 03 09:07 AM Freya wrote:

     

    > Triple? You are in the SciFi trade. ooohh.
    >
    > Howdy Partner, I still have a copy of Asimov's first foray into the
    > Magazine world including the Illustration from The Stainless Steel
    > Rat.
    >
    > These guys were the Scientific geniuses of their times, many of the
    > New Russian writers are in the same world. They postulate, I write
    > it down.
    >
    > There is a new Filter Technology which an be built to capture specific
    > types of Molecules. I started thinking in terms of cars with Ram
    > Scoops ala older SF space ships. Suck your fuel out of the Air.<br/>
    >
    > But that's neither here nor there Yet.
    >
    > Hmmm, different light here. I'm going to chug down your comment stream.
    > SF types think differently, they tend to see far more than the immediate.
    > Have to see what you've had to say in the past.
    >
    > I hope you don't mind, hehehe. :)
    3 Nov 2009, 11:17 AM Reply Like
  • optionsgirl
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    Germany's Merkel is at the White House today, and supports international climate change agreements. Oy, gee.
    news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20...
    3 Nov 2009, 01:38 PM Reply Like
  • Freya
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    Newbee, smoobee. I don't care. I'd be doing somersaults if I still could.

     

    Grok, I've read all of Rand's Books including a little pamphlet whose name I don't even remember. We were both Republicans once. Now, there isn't any association with Any Party. Our Votes will go to whomever is the "Least" likely to screw us.

     

    But, you are wrong in this: " I do not consider ANY of this as all that germane to investment advice"

     

    That Political Aspect, thanks to Obama now has to be considered. One has to look at who is advising him and what that advice is likely to be. Once upon a time, this was a small part of the Equation. Now it is the largest portion when it comes down to Companies domiciled in the USA.

     

    Its Hammer Time.
    3 Nov 2009, 01:39 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    The German Greens are too strong for her to beat, even if she's not a tru-believer. She has to be careful which battles she fights in the Green arena back home.

     

    On Nov 03 01:38 PM optionsgirl wrote:

     

    > Germany's Merkel is at the Whitehouse today, and supports G-20 climate
    > change agreements. That's a big disappointment! news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20...
    3 Nov 2009, 01:40 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    I was referring to ME and my personal history - I totally agree, politics (and its taller cousin, geopolitics) are CRITICAL to doing things like timing market mood swings, not to mention more precise political smart bombs like health care, cap and trade, not to mention the odd decision to invade a country or two!

     

    On Nov 03 01:39 PM Freya wrote:

     

    > Newbee, smoobee. I don't care. I'd be doing somersaults if I still
    > could.
    >
    > Grok, I've read all of Rand's Books including a little pamphlet whose
    > name I don't even remember. We were both Republicans once. Now, there
    > isn't any association with Any Party. Our Votes will go to whomever
    > is the "Least" likely to screw us.
    >
    > But, you are wrong in this: " I do not consider ANY of this as all
    > that germane to investment advice"
    >
    > That Political Aspect, thanks to Obama now has to be considered.
    > One has to look at who is advising him and what that advice is likely
    > to be. Once upon a time, this was a small part of the Equation. Now
    > it is the largest portion when it comes down to Companies domiciled
    > in the USA.
    >
    > Its Hammer Time.
    3 Nov 2009, 01:43 PM Reply Like
  • optionsgirl
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    Diane Sawyer interviewing Al Gore:
    newsbusters.org/blogs/...
    3 Nov 2009, 03:19 PM Reply Like
  • optionsgirl
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    British cowards:
    www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
    3 Nov 2009, 05:23 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Excellent overview. My cudos to the author.

     

    George Will, perhaps the greatest American political commentator:

     

    townhall.com/columnist...

     

    On Nov 03 05:23 PM optionsgirl wrote:

     

    > British cowards:
    > www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
    3 Nov 2009, 05:34 PM Reply Like
  • Freya
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    Understood, I was also referring to ME, and my own history.

     

    I don't claim to be the Mule, or to have anyone like Sheldon guiding me. I do have a very good memory and pretty good associative skills.

     

    The Markets are not at an inflection point. There are far too many sectors improving for a General Selloff. Specific sectors will be hit as will specific stocks. ie overvaluation calls.

     

    IT is now a stockpicker's market.

     

    Am awaiting Election results.
    3 Nov 2009, 06:16 PM Reply Like
  • Swashbuckler
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    Freya---I don't follow the swine flu stocks, or the rare earth or small cap energy stocks, so I generally avoid those threads. But I do enjoy reading your take on the overall market, like you just posted. Thanks much.

     

    On Nov 03 06:16 PM Freya wrote:

     

    > Understood, I was also referring to ME, and my own history.
    >
    > I don't claim to be the Mule, or to have anyone like Sheldon guiding
    > me. I do have a very good memory and pretty good associative skills.
    >
    >
    > The Markets are not at an inflection point. There are far too many
    > sectors improving for a General Selloff. Specific sectors will be
    > hit as will specific stocks. ie overvaluation calls.
    >
    > IT is now a stockpicker's market.
    >
    > Am awaiting Election results.
    3 Nov 2009, 06:31 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Since he is skeptical of the "overwhelming consensus", he will certainly be dismissed as a "minor pundit" with no ability to see the truth.

     

    One of the frequently-used diversionary tactics - accuse your opponent of your own failings.

     

    HardToLove

     

    On Nov 03 05:34 PM tripleblack wrote:

     

    > Excellent overview. My cudos to the author.
    >
    > George Will, perhaps the greatest American political commentator:
    >
    >
    > townhall.com/columnist...
    >
    >
    > On Nov 03 05:23 PM optionsgirl wrote:
    3 Nov 2009, 07:02 PM Reply Like
  • H. T. Love
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    Excellent link OG! Thanks! I especially like the part about snowing outside the palace, the first time in 74 years! And then "God has a sense of hunor". LoL!

     

    In case somebody missed it, there are some links to videos provided here.

     

    theburningplatform.com...

     

    HardToLove

     

    On Nov 03 05:23 PM optionsgirl wrote:

     

    > British cowards:
    > www.telegraph.co.uk/ne...
    3 Nov 2009, 07:08 PM Reply Like
  • Freya
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    Swash: Understood, but please understand, I have no desire to be part of an "atta boy" club. Especially when the intent of that Club is to demean women. Sexist remarks are not germane to any discussion.

     

    I doubt that any of the married men would want their wives to see the commentary Rocks thinks is humorous. His intent was to drive me out. He said so himself.

     

    He succeeded.
    4 Nov 2009, 02:23 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Well, It was a GOP sweep, though the bungling by the GOP in the 23rd NY left them with a woebegone Conservative vs their own candidate (endorsed the Democrat and dropped out at the last minute) and the victorious Democrat.

     

    New Jersey's new governor is a Republican, while Virginia saw all 3 of the top state posts swapped over to Republicans, by large winning margins.

     

    In political terms, this evening was a bad beat for the Obama folks. He did everything but personally hire ACORN to pack the New Jersey ballot boxes, to no avail. Getting a Republican elected in New Jersey is one of those canary-in-the-mineshaft events.

     

    The odds against the HealthCare and Cap/Trade bills just dropped a good bit. The wacky news from Reid yesterday morning presaged these events - its obvious that he is already sweating big time for his own chances in 2010. The political calculators in DC just got a cold glass of Perrier dumped all over them. I can smell the circuits cooking from here!

     

    On Nov 03 06:16 PM Freya wrote:

     

    > Understood, I was also referring to ME, and my own history.
    >
    > I don't claim to be the Mule, or to have anyone like Sheldon guiding
    > me. I do have a very good memory and pretty good associative skills.
    >
    >
    > The Markets are not at an inflection point. There are far too many
    > sectors improving for a General Selloff. Specific sectors will be
    > hit as will specific stocks. ie overvaluation calls.
    >
    > IT is now a stockpicker's market.
    >
    > Am awaiting Election results.
    4 Nov 2009, 07:16 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Yes, you are correct - it is a reflexive defense by this point. Attacking the messenger is second only to supporting the doctrine.

     

    On Nov 03 07:02 PM H. T. Love wrote:

     

    > Since he is skeptical of the "overwhelming consensus", he will certainly
    > be dismissed as a "minor pundit" with no ability to see the truth.
    >
    >
    > One of the frequently-used diversionary tactics - accuse your opponent
    > of your own failings.
    >
    > HardToLove
    >
    > On Nov 03 05:34 PM tripleblack wrote:
    4 Nov 2009, 07:21 AM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    OK, I also understand.

     

    I use political events as a timing tripwire, and have done so for many years, starting with just before the dot.com crash. I spend a LOT of time in cash (usually with some commodities too). I was in cash from July 2007 until March 26, 2009 (except for a brief flurry just before the election, when I made some money and then quickly bailed). I was 100% in equities until Thursday a week ago, then sold off 85%, and then sold off another 10% points last Thursday.

     

    I have very few stocks now except for a little NovaVax (sold half my holding late yesterday for a modest gain), though I am holding onto my silver, NG and oil for now.

     

    LOL, I really SHOULD dive back in today, this political news plus the Buffit angle are strong, but I had decided to sit on the sidelines until the G20 ended, and I will. I never seem to get the timing precisely right, but I get it APPROXIMATELY right most of the time.

     

    As for coal, I agree, buying the RR was a Coal play, especially a China coal play (they will be buying mountains of coal from us, assuming we aren't in some wacky accidental trade war). My instincts THERE are to await the outcome of Cap and Trade, which could really hit that industry hardest, and the power companies (like the Southern Co.) who depend on coal fired generation the most...

     

    But I will be studying coal and posting up what I find here, while waiting for the conditions I really SHOULD use to align in some fashion in the political and physical universe.

     

    As for the world scene, I have been watching the new Dolphin submarines Israel has purchased from Germany (up to 4 so far), and pay particular note to the open passage by one of these Israeli warships via the Suez Canal (with the permission of Egypt) which recently placed it in the India Ocean...

     

    As you point out, associative reasoning is very important to this sort of investment methodology...

     

    Combining the wild nuclear ambitions of Iran, their repeated threats, Israel's new military capabilities, and now Hamas with Iranian-made silkworm missiles...

     

    The situation there is becoming overheated.

     

    I am really very comfortable with my oil investments, of course. And the potential opportunities to buy into a market shock caused by conflict between Israel and Iran could be very interesting...

     

    But who knows precisely WHEN this might occur? Maybe someone in TelAviv, but they aren't whispering in my ear.

     

    As for the silver, which I keep adding, its my way of playing Gold as well. I just think it has more upside potential right now, but will, like Gold, react positively to the sort of political events I see unfolding. The short side of silver MIGHT just be an indirect tether being used by the large banks to keep some downward pressure on Gold (which is already straining the historic price ratio with silver due to this). At some point this will change, and I intend to benefit from that.

     

    On Nov 03 06:16 PM Freya wrote:

     

    > Understood, I was also referring to ME, and my own history.
    >
    > I don't claim to be the Mule, or to have anyone like Sheldon guiding
    > me. I do have a very good memory and pretty good associative skills.
    >
    >
    > The Markets are not at an inflection point. There are far too many
    > sectors improving for a General Selloff. Specific sectors will be
    > hit as will specific stocks. ie overvaluation calls.
    >
    > IT is now a stockpicker's market.
    >
    > Am awaiting Election results.
    4 Nov 2009, 07:45 AM Reply Like
  • Freya
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    Indian Post Offices are selling gold by the Gram or more to its Populace.

     

    It used to be that Gold fell overnight and this was attributed to Gold Manipulation but now it stays stable to higher and spot is never far below the Futures.

     

    The Indian populace can accumulate it Year round, I wonder if the Gold Festivals will become a thing of the past.
    4 Nov 2009, 11:06 AM Reply Like
  • Thomas LaCour
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    Author’s reply » LOL, Pumpkin Head was strictly for Halloween. Gone for good.

     

    As for submitting it as an article, I did, SA never published it as far as I know, nor let me know if they did, or why they didn't.

     

    On Nov 02 10:00 PM optionsgirl wrote:

     

    > Wow,why don't you submit this as an article? I think it would get
    > a large response but no one knows about it! Thumbs up, man!
    > I've been reading some of your posts on TBP. You have fire in your
    > belly these days. Nice photo- a definite improvement over the pumpkin
    > head.
    6 Nov 2009, 03:32 PM Reply Like
  • Thomas LaCour
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    Author’s reply » Thanks HTL. Perhaps SA will reconsider printing it, maybe in parts as a later post suggested.

     

    On Nov 03 06:37 AM H. T. Love wrote:

     

    > I'm with OG: Please submit this as an article They may want to break
    > it into pieces due to length, but *every* open-minded individual
    > will benefit from it.
    >
    > Great work,
    > HardToLove
    6 Nov 2009, 03:35 PM Reply Like
  • Thomas LaCour
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    Author’s reply » Freya, good to see your reinstatement. Yes, the whole thing is such a scam people have GOT to be made aware. Taxman/Malarkey and all the other GW legislation won't even reduce temps at all, so I disagree with the TV show you mention: CO2 decrease likely means colder temps, not warmer, the feedback loop is negative not positive.

     

    On Nov 03 06:49 AM Freya wrote:

     

    > Its way too long as a single, however it could be printed as Parts
    > 1,2,3.
    >
    > I've printed the Form, I was a Business Major but Paul's degree is
    > in Math, he will submit it. He saw a show over the weekend which
    > listed a particular Mathematical study postulating that if Man shut
    > down All forms of CO2 emissions over the entire planet over the next
    > 30 years, Global Warming would decrease by 1 degree.
    >
    > I like your common sense approach Tom (Thomas, if you wish). I went
    > back through your comment stream.
    6 Nov 2009, 03:44 PM Reply Like
  • Thomas LaCour
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    Author’s reply » tb,

     

    Thanks for the link, and the analogy. Gore certainly fits in both the Lug and the Nut categories.

     

    On Nov 03 07:39 AM tripleblack wrote:

     

    > As a lot of you know, I'm in the science fiction trade, and therefore
    > I hang out with some pretty strange - but smart - free thinkers.
    > Some of them have phd's (some several), and many of them have resumes
    > that include places like JPL, NASA, TRW and GE as employers.
    >
    > One of my friends has an analogy that posits the earth's carbon cycle
    > as a large SUV. Carbon dioxide is a large and important chunk of
    > that cycle, and there is no denying that Man has a much smaller piece
    > of that "chunk"...
    >
    > Extending his numbers, which are really and literally "planetary"
    > in size, he has computed that out of the entire corpus of the carbon
    > cycle SUV, Man's total ongoing contribution to CO2 emissions is less
    > than one of the SUV's lug nuts - in fact, just a few THREADS on that
    > lug nut.
    >
    > We are literally immaterial to the carbon cycle, PART of it,yes,
    > but very much along for the ride rather than driving the SUV.
    >
    > As for gauging the downstream EFFECT on something like Global Warming,
    > which is itself only affected in part (and that a small part) by
    > CO2 levels, the human effect is diluted a lot more.
    >
    > Here is a very good article by one of my friends on this topic:<br/>
    >
    > www.ldsmag.com/ideas/0...
    >
    > This strikes at the roots of the fraud.
    6 Nov 2009, 03:47 PM Reply Like
  • Thomas LaCour
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    Author’s reply » Mayascribe,

     

    I look forward to reading McKillop's work. As you intimate, one must use caution before saying "the sea level rose" based on presently-submerged artifacts, or on changes in tidal gauges. Many other reasons can account for submersion - the Black Sea suddenly flooding some centuries back swallowed whole villages that are now 30-50 feet below sea level, but that was due to the Dardanelles opening. As Professor Morner points out, subsidence, tectonic/geological factors must all be accounted for BEFORE concluding that global sea levels have changed.

     

    But this is science, and McKillops finds are facts to be considered, and it sounds like she did her homework. We do know from multiple sources that global sea levels have altered a little, repeatedly, over millions of years. Natural cycles. And so she shows that reasons OTHER than GW account for the submerged artifacts, and the PTB do not listen. That is the point of my article, they are proceeding with this GW Treaty and legislation KNOWING that GW is bullshit.

     

    So the real question is why, and who benefits?

     

    I went to Freedomworks as you suggested, but there seems no obvious way to post an article. I wrote them a note asking how to submit it - if you already know how, please let me know.

     

    thanks again for the informative and helpful post.

     

    On Nov 03 10:38 AM Mayascribe wrote:

     

    > I come from an archeology and anthropology angle about the falicy
    > of global warming. I have written several times before here on SA
    > that the oceans have risen by one meter during the last thousand
    > years, proven by a study from Heather McKillop in her book titled
    > "Salt: The White Gold Of The Ancient Maya," where she found pottery
    > sherds and evidence of charred wood in one meter of water off the
    > coast of Belize.
    >
    > These in situ sites were put in place by working ancient Mayans as
    > they converted sea water into brine salt for trade, again underneath
    > one meter water.
    >
    > I've met Heather and she has had a large impact on the implications
    > of mankind's impact on the environment. Unfortunately, nobody who
    > makes decisions is listening. But as a group, for the most part,
    > the intellects who work to better understand the ancient Maya, know
    > that the theory that global warming is caused by mankind is a farce.
    >
    >
    > You can read more about her work here (or just skip to the second
    > paragragh):
    >
    > findarticles.com/p/art.../
    >
    >
    > By the way. Terrific article. You should forward this basket of insightful
    > basket of knowledge to the White House, every senator, and every
    > representative.
    >
    > Also, you may want to forward your article to www.freedomworks.com
    6 Nov 2009, 04:27 PM Reply Like
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    Author’s reply » Freya, I also grok the political Uberfactor in investing, and been a SciFi fiend since I could read. And a non-party guy, who votes for good candidates or write 'em in. No more evil of two lessers.

     

    Triplblack is dead on right about the visionary quality of many Scifi writers. What a treasure to have met and conversed with some of them.

     

    On Nov 03 01:39 PM Freya wrote:

     

    > Newbee, smoobee. I don't care. I'd be doing somersaults if I still
    > could.
    >
    > Grok, I've read all of Rand's Books including a little pamphlet whose
    > name I don't even remember. We were both Republicans once. Now, there
    > isn't any association with Any Party. Our Votes will go to whomever
    > is the "Least" likely to screw us.
    >
    > But, you are wrong in this: " I do not consider ANY of this as all
    > that germane to investment advice"
    >
    > That Political Aspect, thanks to Obama now has to be considered.
    > One has to look at who is advising him and what that advice is likely
    > to be. Once upon a time, this was a small part of the Equation. Now
    > it is the largest portion when it comes down to Companies domiciled
    > in the USA.
    >
    > Its Hammer Time.
    6 Nov 2009, 04:47 PM Reply Like
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