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  • Motif Investing Forum 19 comments
    Mar 17, 2014 6:03 PM

    This is a forum to discuss implementing investment ideas on Motif Investing. Anyone interested can sign up here - we both get $100 and a convenient way to execute investments in portfolios of ideas (including mine). Please ask any questions that you might have in the comment section below. I am happy to address both the pros and the cons of this platform as well as the details of my investments on Motif. I have created individual portfolios in order to track specific strategies that I pursue. If you have any ideas for portfolios that you would like to see, please let me know.

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  • bazooooka
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    Chris,

     

    When a motif is purchased does the client get to see what price each stock was purchased at? How much slippage have you seen in their "market" orders used? And do you suspect for a larger account it would be cheaper to pay commissions on up to 20-30 stocks then to occur the likely slippage?
    17 Mar 2014, 07:37 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » Yes.

     

    None so far, but I've not tried this with very illiquid securities.

     

    Yes. For $1 mil, I would not use Motif. For $250, it is not that price-efficient either. But for $3-10k say, it is probably fine.
    17 Mar 2014, 07:41 PM Reply Like
  • sid18
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    Can you explain in simple terms, how motif works? Is it just like a mutual fund whereby we buy a unit of mutual fund and it allocates a percentage of the total amount to each of the investment of the manager's choosing?

     

    So when we buy $10,000 worth of motif, it's invested in the stocks that are listed in that motif and are sold when they are eliminated from that motif?

     

    Thanks.
    17 Mar 2014, 08:00 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » Essentially, yes.
    17 Mar 2014, 08:01 PM Reply Like
  • toddro
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    I would like to see a Nassim Taleb "antifragile" inspired Motif, his "barbell portfolio"...

     

    I am in the process of getting some money moved over after tax time (via you referral link), and I am very interested in your "menu"!

     

    I "borrowed" a few ideas from your uncle for my "tangent" motif:

     

    http://bit.ly/1iXFDvh
    17 Mar 2014, 08:12 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » Great ideas! Thanks. -C
    17 Mar 2014, 09:01 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » Here is one to consider: http://bit.ly/1buEmgp. I interviewed the creator here: http://seekingalpha.co...
    17 Mar 2014, 09:17 PM Reply Like
  • thetortoise
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    Signed up this weekend Chris - Now the only problem is figuring out what percentages to allocate to each of your motifs. This is somewhat "meta" as you now need a motif of your motifs to construct an overall portfolio. Do you have any suggestions on how an investor should approach your motifs from an allocation perspective?
    23 Mar 2014, 06:46 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » Good question. I started by splitting between the "Return" and "Stability" focused funds. The more recent funds are essentially trackers for different strategies which will be folded into the return and stability fund. Individuals can customize how much they want to focus on maximizing returns or maximizing stability.
    23 Mar 2014, 07:17 PM Reply Like
  • TheSandman
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    Chris -

     

    I have signed up and now funded my account... was waiting to make sure that our tax bill did not need scientific notation when describing the damage to the DrWife.

     

    Thanks for the free(*) money!

     

    Since it seems that you might have some pull with the team there, have you heard anything about TARP warrants being included in the available universe of investments? I was unable to find them, though I would like to eventually create a motif of these securities.

     

    (Alternatively, if you created one, I'd probably throw money at it, too.)
    1 Apr 2014, 11:53 AM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » That is a great idea; I would be happy to build one and to deal with Motif on this project. Which TARP warrants would you favor including. Meanwhile, I have this: http://bit.ly/1mwFUYc
    1 Apr 2014, 12:31 PM Reply Like
  • TheSandman
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    Fascinating (BAC.WS.A). I couldn't find a TARP warrant anywhere.

     

    Many of the usual suspects in the TBTF are represented as common stock here: http://bit.ly/1mwTVFf (HIG is omitted from this one, it seems...).

     

    The more I think about this, the better the TARP warrants seem. I need to step back and make sure that I'm not setting myself up with confirmation bias.
    1 Apr 2014, 01:10 PM Reply Like
  • bazooooka
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    Great idea guys. I hope you add it to the great themes you have created.
    1 Apr 2014, 09:50 PM Reply Like
  • Stock Market Joe
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    Love the site, very good way to test what you believe could be the next money maker and all with real returns!
    My best returns to date:
    http://goo.gl/TMguP8 or http://goo.gl/jslcty
    3 Apr 2014, 04:58 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » Here is my six year old's first investment portfolio of his own making:

     

    http://bit.ly/RTXX0n
    21 May 2014, 08:20 AM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » What’s working this month?
    http://bit.ly/NzzOea
    What is my must under purchased portfolio?
    http://bit.ly/1pQhPAn
    What is my favorite security for 2014?
    http://bit.ly/1l0ooOd
    What is my favorite security for always?
    http://bit.ly/1pQhPAr
    What will my next Motif purchase be?
    http://bit.ly/RTXX0n
    20 Jun 2014, 11:37 AM Reply Like
  • Wilson Wang
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    Chris, you will be excited to hear about this.

     

    At a recent Merrill Lynch investment committee, I recommended using Motif to help simplify the portfolio building process. And now it's being communicated with the compliance, if it works, that would be huge for Motif!
    20 Jun 2014, 12:29 PM Reply Like
  • Chris DeMuth Jr.
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    Author’s reply » New Highs http://bit.ly/1jONIC0 +18% http://bit.ly/1o3Z4Gy +51% http://bit.ly/1nErmpt +26% http://bit.ly/Qo4Zug.
    25 Jun 2014, 03:12 PM Reply Like
  • toddro
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    Motif is switching from Apex Clearing to Pershing LLC. Any chance this may allow them to begin offering OTC stocks?
    11 Nov 2014, 04:36 PM Reply Like
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