An article at TheStreet.com (here) discusses why there are some glimmers of hope in extrapolations of the latest employment data. A projection is made that unemployment will peak in the middle of 2010, but could come sooner if the recovery gathers steam.
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John, I really could not make out what is going on with that analysis by Nathan. 4.3% average for men with college degrees aged 22-44 (sic, working from memory here)?
This is more like a bright light chatching me unawares than a glimmer.
I am hoping to find time this week to do a series of analyses on unemployment. I hadn't considered discussion of demographics, but maybe I can get to it. I think the bottom line is that college graduate professionals are not having much of a recession, on average, and the less educated and blue collar people are having a depression.
On Nov 09 11:27 AM tripleblack wrote:
> John, I really could not make out what is going on with that analysis > by Nathan. 4.3% average for men with college degrees aged 22-44 (sic, > working from memory here)? > > This is more like a bright light chatching me unawares than a glimmer. > > > Can you expand on the theme for us?
John: I caught your US maps expanding job loss. Quite revealing that was.
May I offer that job loss from a demographics stand point contains one aspect that may be hidden. I can only speak from what my bro-in-laws have both endured, as well as a smattering of friends; they did not lose their jobs, but their wages were cut.
I'm clueless on how that is tracked, as in the % of white collar people who still retain their jobs, but had their salaries whacked.
OK, I'll keep an eye out for that. I hope you know how much a lot of us rely on your generosity and knowledge! Thanks for what you do!
On Nov 09 11:40 AM John Lounsbury wrote:
> I am hoping to find time this week to do a series of analyses on > unemployment. I hadn't considered discussion of demographics, but > maybe I can get to it. I think the bottom line is that college graduate > professionals are not having much of a recession, on average, and > the less educated and blue collar people are having a depression. >
I have some data that I'll try to get out this week, but it is very macro. I don't think I have anything that will isolate pay cuts demographically. I'll stay alert for that.
Probably all merged into savings, spending, etc., a host of many other categories; "easy" as sorting through a single noodle on a big plate of angel hair pasta,
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Last week I noticed that one of the stats that usdebtclock.org got rid of was "Unofficial Jobs Lost." I find that curious.
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This is more like a bright light chatching me unawares than a glimmer.
Can you expand on the theme for us?
On Nov 09 11:27 AM tripleblack wrote:
> John, I really could not make out what is going on with that analysis
> by Nathan. 4.3% average for men with college degrees aged 22-44 (sic,
> working from memory here)?
>
> This is more like a bright light chatching me unawares than a glimmer.
>
>
> Can you expand on the theme for us?
May I offer that job loss from a demographics stand point contains one aspect that may be hidden. I can only speak from what my bro-in-laws have both endured, as well as a smattering of friends; they did not lose their jobs, but their wages were cut.
I'm clueless on how that is tracked, as in the % of white collar people who still retain their jobs, but had their salaries whacked.
I'll be interested to read your perspective.
On Nov 09 11:40 AM John Lounsbury wrote:
> I am hoping to find time this week to do a series of analyses on
> unemployment. I hadn't considered discussion of demographics, but
> maybe I can get to it. I think the bottom line is that college graduate
> professionals are not having much of a recession, on average, and
> the less educated and blue collar people are having a depression.
>
I have some data that I'll try to get out this week, but it is very macro. I don't think I have anything that will isolate pay cuts demographically. I'll stay alert for that.
On November 16th or 17th, I will be upating my Insta "The Scariest Financial Site On The Web." It will offer a 3 month snapshot at the piling up of all kinds of categorized debt.
Last week I noticed that one of the stats that usdebtclock.org got rid of was "Unofficial Jobs Lost." I find that curious.
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