Nokia's (NOK) rumored 41MP sensor Lumia phone, codenamed EOS, will have a polycarbonate body and...


Nokia's (NOK) rumored 41MP sensor Lumia phone, codenamed EOS, will have a polycarbonate body and a display similar to that of the Lumia 920 (4.5," 1280x768 display), a source tells WMPoweruser. The source adds the phone will be lighter than the 920, that its thickness will be on par, and that its camera will sport a xenon flash and a lens cover "that opens when the camera app is started." A new camera app is also said to be on board. The Verge reported in January AT&T will sell the phone; considering T-Mobile is selling the 925, there's some logic to that.
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  • Abu Bakr Hussain
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    The level of detail in this rumour is very intriguing. I wish WMPoweruser had been a bit more explicit as to where exactly this phone was spotted and given us an idea of the circumstance. I am curious if this is an engineered leak from Nokia (in which case it would be accurate), or completely made up. I do not discount the possibility of either scenario.
    19 May 2013, 07:08 PM Reply Like
  • La Rue
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    I agree as well.
    19 May 2013, 07:15 PM Reply Like
  • justaminute
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    Yes - I would like to know also.
    19 May 2013, 07:25 PM Reply Like
  • thinkinfo
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    I have a friend photograher from Brazil who was given one 41MP by Nokia in Sao Paolo to test, the results are amassing, with this 41 MP he shot 2 editorial jobs each 12 pages..., impressive results, the phone has been tested for nearly a year, I did had it in my hands, I have been surprise by the quality of this phone in many ways.
    20 May 2013, 12:49 AM Reply Like
  • WisPokerGuy
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    Message from consumers to Nokia --- "Who Cares?"
    19 May 2013, 07:18 PM Reply Like
  • justaminute
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    That's insightful, thanks.
    19 May 2013, 07:24 PM Reply Like
  • Yokyok
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    exactly. like anybody needs a 41mp camera for casual use
    19 May 2013, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • WisPokerGuy
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    It wasn't mean to be "insightful". It was meant to be exactly what it was. Nobody really cares about any of the products a company releases, if the company is going to be non-existent in a couple of years. Welcome to "penny stock" land Nokia.

     

    Flame me if you want, but you know it's true. Between Samsung in the low-end markets and Apple on the high end, Nokia is about as irrelevant as there is a consumer company out there right now. There anti-Apple and anti-Sansung commercial is pretty funny though - for what that is worth?

     

    But, in any case... you're welcome #justaminute. Glad I could be of service to you. LOL
    19 May 2013, 11:01 PM Reply Like
  • Atmit
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    Well, it was actually supposed to be non-existent last year, and Apple was supposed to be non-existent in 1997. And while you've been busy welcoming NOK to penny-stock land, others (including myself) have made a ton of money on the stock. If I had bought AAPL when I bought NOK, I would probably have lost my life's savings by now. Life isn't always what it seems, and those who swim with the tide are called "also rans".

     

    And BTW, Samsung isn't just dominating the low-end, it's eating Apple's lunch at the high end too.
    20 May 2013, 10:31 AM Reply Like
  • WisPokerGuy
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    I'm happy for you. However well your speculative trading has done (haven't all boats gone up in the past year?) that doesn't change the fact that more then likely within 3 years Nokia will have probably gone the way of Palm. Whether it dies by Samsung's knife or Apple's, I'm not sure the world will really care much by then. Just sayin'
    21 May 2013, 06:00 AM Reply Like
  • Timothy Bryan
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    Bold statement, yet utterly ridiculous. Nokia has presence, marketing, manufacturing, a growing smart phone market, and great product, as well as several profitable divisions.

     

    And that means they are Palm?

     

    You should short away then, with all of your money. That way you can hit us up for handouts when the stock triples.
    21 May 2013, 02:35 PM Reply Like
  • Atmit
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    @WisPokerGuy: So its a "fact" that Nokia will go the way of Palm within 3 years? How did you determine this to be a fact? Why 3 years, and not 2 or 4 or 1 or 25? This isn't Poker, you know. No crystal ball will tell you what the world will look like in 3 years, and empty assertions unsupported by data or logic mean nothing.
    21 May 2013, 03:38 PM Reply Like
  • justaminute
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    First it was two years, now it's three years. Make up your mind.
    21 May 2013, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • Philip Marlowe
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    EOS? Is this going to be co-branded with Canon?
    19 May 2013, 07:26 PM Reply Like
  • scavok
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    It's an internal development codename. Eos is probably a play on the quality of the canon dslr as the phones main feature is photography, but it'll never be officially branded or marketed under that name. Much like the Lumia 928 was codenamed "Laser", 925 "Catwalk", etc, this will probably be named the 930 or 950 or something.
    19 May 2013, 07:35 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    My next phone...
    19 May 2013, 08:01 PM Reply Like
  • flybywire54
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    Hopefully , talking about the US, when Nokia launches the EOS , it won't be only on AT&T .
    19 May 2013, 08:19 PM Reply Like
  • La Rue
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    Amen to that.
    19 May 2013, 08:27 PM Reply Like
  • Abu Bakr Hussain
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    Sadly flybywire - i strongly suspect it will be. I'm actually researching another NOK article right now. Interestingly enough, when iphone had only AT&T, one of the key reasons people chose android over iphone (48%) was because iphone wasn't available on their carrier. And the iphone was a storming success at the time. Even for Apple having broader coverage helped increase their sales. Certainly NOK is pursuing a multiple-hero phone strategy across different carriers, but having the Eos on AT&T only is well.. who knows if it will pay off?
    19 May 2013, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • wrscomncents
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    Abu

     

    You're probably right but with Nokia having a hero phone everywhere but Sprint It would be nice to get one at that carrier too.
    19 May 2013, 09:31 PM Reply Like
  • Abu Bakr Hussain
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    WRS - I don't know what's happened with NOK and Sprint. I think they've had a falling out of some kind. Sprint will be stocking WP8 phones. Just not NOK.
    20 May 2013, 05:28 AM Reply Like
  • wrscomncents
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    That's okay. I'll be leaving Sprint in two days. As soon as the 520's come into T-Mobile I'm gone.
    20 May 2013, 07:52 AM Reply Like
  • Timothy Bryan
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    If they have to do an exclusive, they should definitely go with Verizon. AT&T is horrible.
    19 May 2013, 09:03 PM Reply Like
  • positivethoughts
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    And that is why the Japanese economy is going nowhere. How can a finnish cellphone maker come up with a 41 megapixel camera for a phone, yet the country that makes most of the digital cameras in the world is still peddling 14 megapixel junk for $100 a piece?

     

    Japan has lost its innovation edge. I am not saying that they ever were dominant in the innovation game, but really, Japan doesnt seem to produce anything of signifigance these days. I know they are making strides in environmental technology and robotics, but I dont see any monetization even in these areas. Even in battery technology, they are losing out to Tesla most recently.

     

    Maybe they should put english subtitles and remove the pixalated censoring in their porn industry, and with that, they could export alot more porn than they currently do. At least in the porn industry, Japan seems to be efficient, producing 7 times the amount of porn as compared to America, and even so with only 1/3 the population.

     

    UPDATE:

     

    Just searched amazon and found that Japan does produce a 40 megapixel camera, however, it costs $7000, weighs 3.5 pounds.

     

    http://amzn.to/11Q7muq
    19 May 2013, 09:09 PM Reply Like
  • shangjeen
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    True photography enthusiasts know that the megapixel count of a phone or camera doesn't mean much. It's the sensor size, aperture and also (yes) software post-processing that are the difference makers.

     

    MegaPixel count is meaningless - much like the "spec war" on the phones of faster and faster CPUs and more and more RAM. The larger pixel count of the S4 (13MP) doesn't necessarily take better pictures than the 4MP HTC One.

     

    As for an excellent Japanese camera, the Sony RX100 beats any other camera (especially Samsung's) hands down.
    19 May 2013, 11:54 PM Reply Like
  • JMajoris
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    As a pro shooter with over a dozen Nikon bodies for my firm I can confirm the above is absolutely true. MP count means nothing from a quality standpoint but it does mean a lot to the marketing folks.
    20 May 2013, 08:25 AM Reply Like
  • justaminute
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    MP does mean something, but it's only part of the equation.
    20 May 2013, 08:47 PM Reply Like
  • La Rue
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    Could Nokia have a hero for all carriers for holiday season?
    19 May 2013, 09:15 PM Reply Like
  • Sam Liu
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    The problem with these camera phones, is the fingers will no doubt smudge on them or dust build up.

     

    Impractical for the real photographer. Such a waste of additional price for a true smartphone user.

     

    My friend asked me: why are you buying your smartphone for what purpose (maybe 8 years ago)?

     

    I replied: ... to take photos!

     

    Boy did I feel stupid, I still use a not-so-smart Nokia C2.
    19 May 2013, 09:37 PM Reply Like
  • shangjeen
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    This is probably false.

     

    I don't see a way they can cram a 41-MP shooter into the body of the 925. If they could, they'd have found a way to bend physics and it would be a marvel of engineering.

     

    The Pureview 808 was a amazing camera but even then they couldn't cram it into a sleek-looking phone body. Doubt the EOS will be different, it'll probably be a enthusiast-only phone...
    19 May 2013, 09:59 PM Reply Like
  • OldWarrior
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    And I can remember when a hand held calculator was an inch thick and cost $200 That just did Add Sub Mult and divide. For another $100 you could get Sq Root.

     

    The reports I have seen show a cover droping down over the Carl Ziess (sp) Optics between shots. Even the 920 has Image Stabilization. I never underestimate miniaturization, but then I'm old enough to have used a slipstick in HS, and remember testing TV Tubes at the Radio Shack.
    19 May 2013, 11:13 PM Reply Like
  • WhatdoIknow1
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    This is in my opinion the one innovation that puts the punch in Nokias stock price to the upside. Both the times speculation ran high that the latest Nokia Windows phone offering would have the 41mp camera, Nokias stock price really climbed. The last time this was speculated on Nokias price climbed to 4.70$. When it was revealed that this wouldn't be the case the decent started and didn't stop until market share gains counter balanced the decent.

     

    Of course the so called experts blamed the decent on pour presentation but that was the typical uninformed analysis you get from people with deadlines. Once vocalized it became the de-facto truth. No matter how stupid the idea was.

     

    If it looks to be true if they do the phone right by keeping wireless charging look for a similar move this time also. A 41mp phone is absolutly a game changer.

     

    Long Nokia
    19 May 2013, 11:31 PM Reply Like
  • tomoldfrt
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    I have a 12mp Minolta which takes fantastic photos with physical and electronic zoom. For just pix taking I want the camera.

     

    For every day stuff so I don't have to carry an equipment bag around my neck, My Nokia 900 does an admirable job. This fall I am upgrading my phone, just haven't decided which one.

     

    Instead of folks just saying "this phone is bad" or "this phone is good". Why can't people just say what it is they do or don't like instead of sounding like a PR flack?

     

    I own NOK shares and plan to buy more in the future.
    20 May 2013, 01:57 AM Reply Like
  • vanebfbc
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    Not saying a 41MP camera phone isn't nice to have, but a photo of that resolution will fall in the range of at least 30 - 50Mb for file size. For the current technology of CPU in mobile phones, it can take quite some time to load just one photo of that size whenever you open it, not to mention the resource (time, storage, battery life) it takes to process and save one image. Even a newly purchased desktop must take a few seconds to open an image of that size. Think about how much bandwidth it takes to share one online, and how much it eats up the data plan!

     

    There is a reason why camera phones cannot replace a professional camera.
    20 May 2013, 05:57 AM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    You should Bing (or Google if that's your preference :) ) PureView and read about the actual related technology by Nokia. In short, the 41MP worth of raw data is processed on the fly by the camera, producing very high quality 5-8MP images for consumption. It is called oversampling.
    20 May 2013, 08:17 AM Reply Like
  • vanebfbc
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    Ah, thank you for pointing that out :)
    20 May 2013, 10:04 AM Reply Like
  • JMajoris
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    OIS in a smartphone big.
    Better low light photography in a smartphone is big.
    41 MP is great for marketing.
    NOK raising the bar.
    20 May 2013, 08:36 AM Reply Like
  • BornIn87
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    I've seen WMPoweruser pull sources from reddit to use in an article. So forgive me if I don't trust their articles.
    20 May 2013, 02:01 PM Reply Like
  • ted lujan
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    Good news, I believe!!!
    It's all about Status, I want to own the very best!

     

    HOoo, believers don't under estimate Nokia, their research is always top notch.
    20 May 2013, 10:16 PM Reply Like
  • JMstocks75
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    just order white 928 off website,449 will add to my contact to keep my unlimited data plan
    24 May 2013, 03:46 PM Reply Like
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