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Windows 8.1 (Blue) will support more Start screen tile sizes and personalization options, says Microsoft (MSFT) exec Antoine Leblond in a blog post. Leblond adds 8.1 will provide a unified, media-rich, search view that combines local and Bing results (unlike Win. 7, Win. 8 currently splits up results into multiple pages). Other improvements include better settings controls, easier mouse/keyboard navigation (a major complaint for some Win. 8 adopters), and a slew of app updates. But the old Start menu, still beloved by many Windows users, isn't coming back. (previous)
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  • Transcripts&10-K's
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    The Bing push will continue; the improvement in this division is overlooked by many, and the impact on the bottom line is material.
    30 May 2013, 12:17 PM Reply Like
  • smagnone
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    Lot's of new features. Great search IMO, and IE 11 as well. A couple of Windows Phone 8 successes incorporated into the UI.

     

    Enjoy:
    http://bit.ly/177QFf1
    30 May 2013, 12:24 PM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    surprised they aren't bringing back the old start menu but I can say after using it for a while now there is no reason for it. When my computer boots the first thing I click (one click only) is the skype tile it opens up my desktop and skype and I go from there...

     

    I love the tiles though so I'm a bit biased you could say... and being able to search on that screen just by typing is one of the best shortcuts ever to hit a computer.
    30 May 2013, 12:28 PM Reply Like
  • rjgood
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    Agreed, I figured MSFT would put the start button back just to quell the naysayers.

     

    I also have come to love the start screen, but especially the search on the right charm bar! Type in any keyword(s), and it default to searching for Apps, Settings and Files. But then, you can click Bing, Weather, Skype, Windows Store, Movie Store, Music Store....any app that supports search.

     

    One search bar that will search anything on your computer, any app content, and search the internet. And it is virtually instant. Amazing.

     

    Love that search charm.
    30 May 2013, 12:34 PM Reply Like
  • Rope a Dope
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    rj – the linked blog did mention something about a ‘Start Tip’ locate in the lower left corner of the screen. Not sure what that accesses but maybe MS is attempting to meet the screamers (my brother-in-law is one) halfway.

     

    I’ve become accustomed to Win 8 but it did have quite the learning curve. But after a few hundred four letter words, I learned how to use it and I have to admit, Win 8 is perfect for a tablet. I’ll look at 8.1 but I know I’d never consider running Win 8 on my laptop or desktop. It seems geared for touch and to that end, I think MS will eventually have a home-run.

     

    One very unexpected discovery with my tablet is that I now despise my laptop. My first computer was a desktop I purchased maybe 20 some years ago. Two years later I bought my first laptop and only used them until I started trading. I bought a desktop and video card about 1 ½ years ago to push a multiple monitor setup. After using my HP tablet for short time, I doubt I will ever buy another laptop again. I expect my future purchases to be tablet and desktop only; no more laptops. I think a lot of people are becoming more mobile and it is for that reason I think MS will have a home run with these operating systems designed more for mobile devices.
    30 May 2013, 02:10 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    Hi Rope a Dope :),

     

    I recommend a touch screen for your desktop, I also have multiple screens and I love my touch screen (Acer). My right screen is touch (perfect for the tiles) and my left screen is normal (perfect for the old desktop) The only problem is that with every machine I work with (besides my own) I find myself trying to touch the screen and that sucks ;)

     

    Best regards
    t
    30 May 2013, 04:00 PM Reply Like
  • rjgood
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    Hey Rope. Your experience seems to be in line with the majority of poeple. I have found that 10% love Windows 8, 10% hate it, and 80% are good to go after the learning curve (seems to take 2-14 days.)

     

    Your and Toraji's attitudes are dead on...tablets/convertibles are the future for portables. Dell is now selling a $300 tablet, which is amazing. Unless you need an old style 3rd party desktop app, I say go with the cheaper RT tablets.

     

    RT comes with a free MS Office, smaller, better battery life and you will find every app under the sun in the Windows store.
    30 May 2013, 05:38 PM Reply Like
  • Storm Warning
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    It's stupid to alienate users by taking away functionality when you can easily allow them to choose there preference.

     

    Developers should never impose arbitrary limitations.
    This is a big reason why Microsoft can never kick into high gear.
    30 May 2013, 12:33 PM Reply Like
  • wigit5
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    agreed its petty for them not to just have the option for those who want it...

     

    the good news is there are a few good 3rd party apps that bring it back anyway. I strongly urge people to give windows 8 a chance I've had a lot of fun with it and people shouldn't get discouraged because of the start bar.
    30 May 2013, 12:38 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Agreed. I really like W8 on my Lenovo Twist ultrabook+tablet hybrid. And free Classic Shell solved the start menu problem, as I want to have that for regular Desktop use, and only use the new Metro interface when using the machine in tablet mode...
    30 May 2013, 12:41 PM Reply Like
  • AdamDivy
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    Agreed with Storm Warning! They should have multiple options to make everybody happy.

     

    I'm not a fan of many of the Win 8 features. Not into the tiles, the right side menu bar that disappears, no proper start menu and others I can't recall at the moment. I'm very happy with Win 7. I'd even take Win XP Pro over Win 8 and lose features.
    30 May 2013, 12:48 PM Reply Like
  • AdamDivy
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    That sounds like a good solution, Seppo2. I'm okay with Win 8 on tablets but not on a desktop computer.
    30 May 2013, 12:49 PM Reply Like
  • Transcripts&10-K's
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    "That sounds like a good solution, Seppo2. I'm okay with Win 8 on tablets but not on a desktop computer."

     

    Microsoft's betting that you'll eventually be using both; I would bet that they prove to be right in most cases with people like yourself.
    30 May 2013, 01:06 PM Reply Like
  • techy46
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    "Developers should never impose arbitrary limitations."

     

    Disagree totally. The legacy Start Button has no useful purpose going forward and would just create another point of contention when new features are added to Start Screen, search everywhere, that would not be included in legacy Start Button. Microsoft, Windows, is continually criticized for bloatware but let's keep the Start Button? Completely absurd arguments, Start Button is useless.
    30 May 2013, 08:04 PM Reply Like
  • AdamDivy
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    I still have yet to purchase a tablet for myself. I like having updated laptops every few years and I would pay more to have an older OS than Win 8. I will hold out as long as I can.
    30 May 2013, 01:34 PM Reply Like
  • Transcripts&10-K's
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    We'll see if you hold to that with $300 Win8 tablets this holiday season; I know I'll be a first time tablet buyer then!
    30 May 2013, 01:38 PM Reply Like
  • AdamDivy
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    We will see. :-)

     

    I use my iPhone for "tablet" activities. Right now or in the near future if I were to buy a tablet it would be Android or iOS.
    30 May 2013, 01:41 PM Reply Like
  • Transcripts&10-K's
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    I hear you, and am in the same spot: have a phone for basic mobile stuff, and a decent "on the go" laptop; at home, I'm running a beautiful 23" touch screen with Win8 - nothing like it!
    30 May 2013, 01:43 PM Reply Like
  • AdamDivy
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    For many years now I have used my laptop as my desktop. It's hooked up to a 27" LCD, wireless keyboard & mouse, and external speakers but I can still unhook everything and bring the laptop where ever I need to go.

     

    I used to build my desktops before I switched to laptop only.
    30 May 2013, 02:20 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    adam.

     

    this post is a few days old now but I have not been updated by your comment, or, I just missed it. very possible btw,

     

    I still wanted to comment though.

     

    DON"t be scared of windows 8 it has everything you know and more. 8.1 will make it even more familiar but I guaranty you that b4 windows 8.1 hits the shelves and you took the time to figure out w8 you will hate 8..1, W8 is pretty good, 8.1 will be better for the mass because they did not figure out 8. To many lazy people in my opinion but hey. OS should be simple right... lets do APPL and do what ever they want ;) its SO EASY...costs a little more but I do not have to think anymore......right? I DO WHATEVER THEY WANT!!!!! PAY WHATEVER THEY WANT!!! I LIKE STYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!HOW MUCH IS THAT APP?? 2.99...OK!!!!! 75% of the apps in ws8 are free

     

    where did I lose you? apple store? BBuy offers?

     

    buy a freaking w8 machine man... they are very affordable...not 750+ as apple...... find what you need and buy it!!!!! you will
    love it

     

    regqards
    T
    4 Jun 2013, 11:29 PM Reply Like
  • AdamDivy
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    I have only run laptops with Windows or Linux OS's. Never an Apple.

     

    I'm very happy with my Asus laptop with Win 7. My wife has a Win 8 laptop and I have used it and know how to navigate it but still dislike it.
    5 Jun 2013, 12:05 PM Reply Like
  • MooseTheHab
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    Win 8 rocks... Arbitrary limitations - this is not arbitrary it is for the better. It is much faster to search and find the application then it is to click start, click All Programs,click the application group and then launch the application. Nothing stops you from pinning to either the task bar in the desktop view or the start screen in metro - you can have it any way you want. Storm Warning the REASON MS has never been able to kick into high gear is supporting legacy non sense. It's good to see them step up to the plate and remove a metaphor that is nearly 20 years old (Start me up!!!) and not carry baggage for a few. Want to see arbitrary decisions wait until Android and iOS have to catch up with the win8 paradigm. I've never been a lover of MS OS's but win8 is intuitive and fast - my six year old figured out how to use it without any instructions on our tablet.
    30 May 2013, 01:56 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    Good comment Moose, totally true you can configure/set up your machine any way you want it to behave.

     

    W8 totally comes alive with a touch screen and that's what its made for... MS is looking at the future as far as I can see and is training us to do that with them.

     

    Keep the F8 people
    30 May 2013, 04:00 PM Reply Like
  • techy46
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    Agree totally. So much application software ends up carrying lame worthless legacy "features" for users should never be empowered to impose arbitrary requirements on developers just so lazy users don't have to learn new processes and metaphors. Complainers and whiners should just keep running W7 on their legacy devices.
    30 May 2013, 08:04 PM Reply Like
  • Rope a Dope
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    Legacy nonsense? Do you have any idea why MS has the market cornered on operating systems? I can assure you it is not because of their apps; it is because of legacy software. You can open legacy software with a tile but certain functions are not available unless you open in desktop mode.

     

    Win 8 is perfect for tablets and MS is on the right track as people begin to use more mobile devices. But if they fail to recognize the needs of desktop users they risk alienating businesses and let’s face it, a large part of their income is derived from those users and the legacy software they run. The only reason I went with a Win 8 system was because I could run MS legacy software. I use this as a productivity device and not a toy.

     

    There are also issues with some features which you would think can be used just with the tiles. If you open IE and decide to save a website to your ‘Favorites’ you have to first open it in desktop mode then save it to the Start Screen (a tile). I would say that is about as far away from intuitive as you can get.

     

    It took me a week to figure out I have 2 folders for some file types; one for the Start Screen and one for Desktop. Intuitive? No way. Now that I know that, I’m fine with it but the problem in the first place is that it is not intuitive.

     

    And although this is not a true feature of Win 8, their SkyDrive needs to be scrapped. I’ve had files take 7 days to show up. Pictures and other irrelevant file types show quickly but anything that can be labeled as legacy software takes hours to days. SkyDrive also changes some of my file names to something other than what I have chosen. I stopped using SkyDrive and have fallen back to emailing files to myself.

     

    MS is not altering Win 8 because of app users, they are altering it because of legacy software users. That says it all right there.
    5 Jun 2013, 08:26 AM Reply Like
  • Rookie IRA Investor
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    With the return of the Start button, investors who trade online should see enhanced returns due to greater ease of accessing their brokerage accounts.
    30 May 2013, 08:37 PM Reply Like
  • NYCTEXASBANKER
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    techy 46

     

    For some a computer is not a toy, when we had main frames and had a change in the OS we had a manual with the first chapter giving the changes and additions.In 20 minutes you knew what you were dealing with.
    Please tell me why MFST doesn't do that. I have a problem when MSFT and developers can't take the time to fix simple problems . Remember the Y2K problems with the two digit date, MSFT was told of the problem in 1981 and see how long it took them to fix it.
    30 May 2013, 08:54 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    nothing happened
    4 Jun 2013, 11:01 PM Reply Like
  • NYCTEXASBANKER
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    TORAJI

     

    Banks run a mismatch program which encompasses all assets and liabilities, in 1997 MS access program could not take anything
    with a 2017 maturity date. Microsoft had to create a second date table in order to accomplish this.
    5 Jun 2013, 10:24 AM Reply Like
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