More on NSA tracking: the agency reportedly monitors call data from AT&T (T) and Sprint (S),...


More on NSA tracking: the agency reportedly monitors call data from AT&T (T) and Sprint (S), as well as from Verizon (VZ) (as reported yesterday). Together, the service providers have 314.6M wirelesss and landline accounts. The NSA's operations also encompass purchase information from unnamed credit-card providers.

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  • philipmax
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    No need for any American to travel to North Korea,Yemen,Syria,Russia, Afghanistan, Pakistan or any other "evil empire" with dictatorial government. We have it right here at home. Enjoy! (but not too much, you are under surveillance)
    7 Jun 2013, 07:51 AM Reply Like
  • crash9010
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    So far I see nothing illegal and it is backed by the Congress who also has oversight of these programs. As a former intelligence professional this data is very important to stopping attacks. If an attack occurs we attack our elected leaders for not doing something to prevent it then we attack them for doing something that tiptoes the line of security and privacy.
    7 Jun 2013, 08:13 AM Reply Like
  • annimhere
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    Soooo...the Boston Bummers didn't call anyone?
    7 Jun 2013, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • Markos Kaminis
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    I believe this has effectively damaged the brand value of Verizon, AT&T and Sprint versus foreign based rivals like T-Mobile and Virgin Media etc. And the name that has been most closely tied to the issue is Verizon. Hardly anybody seems to expect customer reaction, but you know what, if I was a Verizon customer, I would have hoped they would have fought the order and taken it to a higher court. Apple would have. So I recommended investors sell VZ because of the customer impact I think is possible, unless VZ goes on a hard PR push to mitigate it. Here is what I wrote on it: http://seekingalpha.co...
    10 Jun 2013, 01:00 PM Reply Like
  • rasanders22
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    According to the leaked slides, Apple was also on board like the other companies. Might want to do more research before you make such a claim. It took me 20 seconds to find out, and only .00001 seconds to have the webpages logged by the NSA.
    10 Jun 2013, 04:17 PM Reply Like
  • Will1425
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    Concur with crash.
    Evil? Maybe a necessary evil. Is tapping my conversation happening, doubt that. Will National Security Agency efforts save defenseless American lives, quite likely. What price do I place on the value of a life and what sacrifice am I willing to make. For me, the possibility of the NSA tapping my conservation is a price I am willing to pay.
    7 Jun 2013, 08:29 AM Reply Like
  • rasanders22
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    Why stop at this. Why don't we put webcams in everyone's house that the government can access at any time? Why not allow Intelligence officers to go into anyone's house at any time and snoop around? If it stops a terrorist attack it would be worth it right? This is a very slippery slope. Those that trade freedom for security deserve neither.
    7 Jun 2013, 08:45 AM Reply Like
  • Ted9235
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    Where do we stop when we allow government to take a freedom in exchange for safety and security? Wikipedia reports that there are an average of 10.8 (USA) deaths per 100,000 related to automobiles. They also report that there are an average of 4.7 (USA) homicides per 100,000 of which a very small number are due to terrorism. Is are fear rational? Are we giving up way too much for way too little?
    7 Jun 2013, 09:13 AM Reply Like
  • annimhere
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    How else can the gubment keep track of who is buying guns online?
    7 Jun 2013, 10:44 AM Reply Like
  • rasanders22
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    You cannot buy a gun online and have it shipped to your house. It must go to a dealer unless you c&r license.
    7 Jun 2013, 11:31 AM Reply Like
  • annimhere
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    No kidding. But they can see your email or phone call to the seller. Duh. Bet your booties you can buy a gun online. And you have to pay for it too. Follow the money trail. You didn't actually think the dealer bought the gun for you, did you?
    7 Jun 2013, 05:11 PM Reply Like
  • Veritas1010
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    Research Project Echelon. The government not only records the data numbers, but has the ability to store all forms of electronic communication. This isn't really a "new" thing unless your only news source is the domestically controlled mass media in the United States.

     

    Every war and "crisis" is and has been another opportunity to seize more constitutional liberties. Check out our history - but not just the 'court historians'. But, common, don't blame the phone companies!

     

    Blame us.
    7 Jun 2013, 10:08 PM Reply Like
  • annimhere
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    Thank you Veritas1010, at my age my memory isn't what it was and I could not remember the name Echelon. I do remember it was a big deal when it came out and a lot of people were frightened of it. You say "blame us". But honestly, what can we do about it? Stop using our phones and computers and credit cards? LOL. It's not us, its them. We willingly use a product that someone invented to make our lives a little easier or better and some summ'a biotch ruins it. Why is that our fault?
    9 Jun 2013, 11:14 AM Reply Like
  • Veritas1010
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    Because we have not spoken up loudly enough, coherently enough, nor courageous enough to alert not only the few who seem to care, but the vast majority that needs too.

     

    Maybe it is beyond America's concern these days. After all there is new Superman movie, Star Wars whatever and the NBA finals...this is what "they" are counting on. And guess what, I think their right too...
    10 Jun 2013, 06:19 PM Reply Like
  • annimhere
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    You are right, but one can only alert those who "care" once its found out. Why don't those who "care" let the public know so we can do "something" before its happened? I'm sure Mr. Orrin Hatch will side with the public outrage, but only after the $2B NSA facility is built in his state. $. How many of our congressional officials that knew about prism let we the people know prior to the whistleblower? Not even the one's against it now. Pathetic.
    11 Jun 2013, 11:21 AM Reply Like
  • Veritas1010
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    I agree with you annimhere.

     

    Therein lies the real problem. Our 'rep's' all knew. And the outrage and animus is directed to this brave hapless young man in Hong Kong - who thinks China gives a rat's hindquarters about sticking to the US in this fashion by offering him asylum. That won't happen. Big money and ubiquitous surveillance states share the same outcome irrespective of topical ideological differences, control and acquiescence of the populous.

     

    All tyrants think the same democratic, socialist, communist. The overarching issue then is when the majority in a democratic society do not perceive this to be another in a series of continual outrages to our Bill of Rights - just because the judicial system may be just as manipulated and controlled by the consensus of the Power Elite as the Executive and Legislative branches are - cowed into obsequious silence. Imagine a President of the United States referring to this hidden agenda as a "...modest encroachment" - (WSJ Sat./Sun. June 5-9, 2013, pg.1)?

     

    Read two great authors: Taylor Caldwell ("Anthem", "Devil's Advocate"), and if you can (or wish) from a non-ideological standpoint, Ayn Rand. America is beyond the "slipper slope". But, to stay "free" one has to use those rights that we still have and hopefully (some) still cherish and value.
    11 Jun 2013, 12:39 PM Reply Like
  • Veritas1010
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    Please excuse my confusion, "Anthem" was written by Ayn Rand not Taylor Caldwell.
    12 Jun 2013, 06:21 PM Reply Like
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