Tesla Motors (TSLA -1.8%) CEO Elon Musk tips off that auto dealers in New York are "sneaking...


Tesla Motors (TSLA -1.8%) CEO Elon Musk tips off that auto dealers in New York are "sneaking through" a bill to shut down the automaker's direct-to-consumer sales in the state. After winning a courtroom battle in the state earlier this year, it appeared Tesla would have a green light in the state before today's developments.
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  • oldpartsnrust
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    And here comes the protectionism. What happened to free markets?
    21 Jun 2013, 12:52 PM Reply Like
  • joenjensen
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    I said some time ago right here in SA that Free markets work only when they want it to work for them. Let's hope the SA monitors don't delete it again this time.
    21 Jun 2013, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • Esekla
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    That's okay, they don't have much of a footprint in NY anyway and the controversy is free publicity. They'll win these battles eventually, if they win at all. The real problems for Tesla are build-out costs until their tech reaches industry acceptance, which even Musk doesn't project until around 2030 (see the interview linked in the comments section of the article below), and pressure from competing technologies over that time frame. The recent announcement was neat, but still a bit of a dud by Tesla's standards since it's quite the cost/benefit trade off both for customers and the company:

     

    http://bit.ly/19nfYbb
    21 Jun 2013, 12:53 PM Reply Like
  • dennisg13
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    You sure like to push your articles don't you?
    21 Jun 2013, 01:17 PM Reply Like
  • Vico Confino
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    Vico Confino: The voice of reason in a sea of despair.
    “One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics is that you end up being governed by your inferiors.”
    Plato
    Cherish everyday I left New York for Florida over 40 years ago.
    Elon Musk is fighting the same battle as Nikola Tesla did over 100 years ago when he invented AC current the radio etc.
    I beg you all to read the book titled TESLA by Margaret Cheney.
    Available on half.com for less than $4.
    Elon Musk CEO will prevail but why must our intelligence be insulted by the incompetents in control of our government.
    Thank you,
    Vico Confino Kid from Brooklyn, high school graduate and happily rolling along in my Tesla S sedan at 80 years young.

     

    Wake up Americans, some states contemplating a tax on electric autos to make up for the lost revenue from obscene taxes on gasoline.
    21 Jun 2013, 01:08 PM Reply Like
  • Esekla
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    Umm, that battle didn't work out so well for Nikola... he went bankrupt:

     

    http://bit.ly/16UfSa3
    21 Jun 2013, 01:14 PM Reply Like
  • Surf Dog
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    Tesla was a genius at inventing, not so much in business. Elon Musk is a genius at business and inventing.
    21 Jun 2013, 01:24 PM Reply Like
  • Cassina Tarsia
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    But, look what he invented! Genius has its own reward ... money is a bonus, when you put it into action, sometimes generations later.
    21 Jun 2013, 01:50 PM Reply Like
  • joenjensen
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    That tax is probably true, that's what they do when they want to kill something. It's a shame that citizens have to go to extraordinary lengths and methods to get competition these days when we had competition at every turn without asking in the past, it was the free market and we accepted it, but now lawmakers want to control what we use, what we eat, and how we get around.
    These rotten bastards will try anything to keep that money flowing into the as usual pockets.

     

    This time it's up to us, we can not allow them to dictate our form of transportation. If they are going to tax EV cars, then Gasoline cars should also be taxed at the very same rate otherwise that would be protectionism, and I don't think they will get away with that if America stands up to it, and says this is wrong.
    Stop protectionism on EV Autos.
    21 Jun 2013, 03:40 PM Reply Like
  • ChrisCDC
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    I see organizer, publisher, economist, physicist, programmer, founder, innovator, contributor, designer, developer, entrepreneur, and marketer.
    However, I do not see inventor
    http://bit.ly/12VM2CM

     

    What has Elon Musk invented or patented himself? If you say PayPal, the wire transfer was already invented, PayPal is just another modified form of it. From what I have read, it seems the people he hires do the testing, inventing, and designing. I hope he pays them well.
    22 Jun 2013, 10:23 PM Reply Like
  • Esekla
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    @SurfDog - The recent short squeeze was certainly masterful. I'm not sure Musk actually invents anything on the technology side of Tesla. His fortune is from being a self-taught programmer and he has two undergrad degrees in Economics and Physics.
    21 Jun 2013, 01:37 PM Reply Like
  • AlexiaEP
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    Remind us where Tesla was before Mr. Musk took over? Remind us as well who kept Tesla alive in 2008 when it was about to have to close its doors?
    21 Jun 2013, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • awakeinwa
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    by that notion nobody invented anything. What is relativity anyway, just time-shifted Newtownian physics. What is a smartphone or tablet but touched enabled computing. What is the English alphabet but a derivation of Germanic.

     

    Musk rethought the car from the ground up. He connected the dots at a granular level that fundamentally will put us on path to a fully sustainable form of transport. True he did not invent interdimensional hyperwarp travel.

     

    But then he doesn't reside in a Star Trek universe. In the real-world, he has reinvented a lot. Plus fight back powerful entrenched interests that happily engender the status quo at great expense to society.
    23 Jun 2013, 02:52 PM Reply Like
  • josephf
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    My hope is that we are not heading toward accepting a VHS vs the original Beta recording machine.
    21 Jun 2013, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • BigJ1260
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    Notice that all of the states trying to stop Tesla are Republican legislatures with big contributions by Oil and Car Dealers. NIce to see our democracy and capitalistic principles so blatantly for sale on the open market.

     

    An EV finally becomes viable- and now they are trying to kill it in the cradle - makes you believe all those conspiracy stories about how Gas alternative vehicles could have been developed decades ago with some Govt. help in infrastructure, technology and R&D Credits, but instead we get our tax dollars invested to subsidize oil companies and bail out American car companies every 20-30 years.

     

    What the hell has happened to our country that this just seems normal because we all understand that Car Dealers are big political contributors (as well as the big 3 Car companies and oil companies) - how disgusting and un-American.

     

    Makes me want to buy a Tesla just to flip them all the bird.
    Hopefully that will be the dynamic that takes hold for a lot of other people as well.

     

    "Buy American - Buy Tesla" !!
    21 Jun 2013, 03:47 PM Reply Like
  • blsteen
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    These states have also proven to be California phobic, unless a CA manufacturer sets up a plant in their small fish bowl.
    23 Jun 2013, 02:53 PM Reply Like
  • jpfeifer
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    Time to hoist the Republican free-market protectionist hypocrites on their own petard. Do the Texas auto dealers really think Tesla is going to cut into their pick-up truck & Suburban sales? Its more reminiscent of the structure of old communist economics rather than free enterprise. Go Elon.
    22 Jun 2013, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • juicejack
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    State sponsored protectionism against Tesla would seem to be in violation of Federal jurisdiction over things "interstate trade."

     

    The auto dealers will ultimately fail, but until they do, it's just their loss.
    26 Jun 2013, 04:50 PM Reply Like
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