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Investigators say there is "no evidence of a direct causal relationship" between the fire aboard an Ethiopian Airlines 787 (BA) and the plane's batteries, although the investigation is ongoing. Initial reports show "extensive heat damage in the upper portion of the rear fuselage." (Previous: RBC says buy BA sell-off, Citi more cautious)
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  • thomas85225
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    Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner: Operating Manual and Checklists

     

    http://bit.ly/13eteZK

     

    Engines Shutdown Checklist

     

    ChecklistParking Brakes SET
    Engine Generators OFF
    External Power ON
    Engine Fuel Control CUTOFF
    Taxi Lights OFF
    Beacon Lights OFF
    Fuel Pump Switches OFF
    Seat Belt Sign OFF
    Heads Up Display OFF
    ======================...

     

    Aircraft Secure Checklist
    Pressurization OFF
    Air Conditioning Packs OFF
    Equipment Cooling OFF
    Window Heating OFF
    Hydraulic Pumps OFF
    Interior Lights OFF
    Battery Switch OFF
    External Power OFF
    Navigation Lights OFF
    Doors Closed/Locked CHECK

     

    Aircraft Secure ChecklistPressurization OFF
    Air Conditioning Packs OFF
    Equipment Cooling OFF
    Window Heating OFF
    Hydraulic Pumps OFF
    Interior Lights OFF
    Battery Switch OFF External Power OFF
    Navigation Lights OFF
    Doors Closed/Locked CHECK
    13 Jul 2013, 08:31 PM Reply Like
  • thomas85225
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    Thomson Airways 787 says Dreamliner forced to return to UK
    http://reut.rs/1bypESi
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    Air Ethiopian Boeing 787 Dreamliner 'Queen of Sheba' aeroplane,

     

    Coffer make have been on commercial and military aircraft bomber, tanker cargo for some time
    Was someone smoking in the crew rest located above the ceiling located in the rear of the aircraft?
    The galley and Lav are located in the aft of the aircraft too
    Boeing, which calls its newest plane a Dreamliner,
    Correct the Nightmare or the world best milking machine was started on 3-28-2003 and ten years only 66 787 have been in service
    How many of the 66 787 have catch fire while park and how many batteries where replace before catching fire that Boeing felled to report this information to the FAA
    How many 787 has made emergency landing or turn back since the 787 where retun to service and since the grounding
    The fire also drew renewed attention to the future of Boeing's most technologically-advanced airliner.
    Boeing, based in Chicago
    Correction the Aircraft HQ is still located in Seattle
    The 787 as a revolutionary jet which burns 20 percent less fuel than comparable aircraft, thanks to its lightweight design.
    Correction maybe for Boeing
    Corrections: That because the 787 being grounded and spent more time on the ground that been a big fuel saver for the 787
    The first 787 where 9.8 tons over weight , the next bath where 6.8 tons overweight, then 4.8 tons overweight Boeing has stated the tagged weight will be meet at line number 126

     

    After the crash of Swissair Flight 111 an Md-11 all commercial aircraft must meet FAA flammability required for the interior of a aircraft
    The 787 nightmare problem where NOT cause by out souring
    Boeing has outsource since 1943 but from the 787 problems are caused by lack of management, leadership and workmen ship problems
    The first grounding of the 787-8 was cause by a lone list of workmanships by Everett assembly aircrafts
    http://dailym.ai/Z1YxF1
    The FAA has fine Boeing see
    http://bit.ly/SUcid0
    Placing the battery in a box without cooling is not a fix
    See the crash of flight 6 a UPU 747-400F
    http://bit.ly/V3LwMm
    http://bit.ly/1bypF8C
    Dangers of Lithium-Ion Batteries Aboard Aircrafthttp://scaviat...
    if the 787 had been make out metal the damage could be cut out and repairs and the aircraft return to service
    A stockholder group has file a laws suite, the complaint, filed in the Southern District of Illinois, charges Boeing and certain of its officers and directors with violations of the federal securities laws concerning false and misleading statements regarding the 787 Dreamliner. This should include the press
    and Boeing has yet to assemble 10 per months
    The Airlines are suing Boeing over late delivery of their aircraft and the grounding
    Qantas will get $433 million from Boeing, including more than $300 million compensation for 787 delays and a refund of deposits for the canceled order, Chief Financial Official Gareth Evans said today at a press briefing.
    So, shareholders have suffered as well. It is part of a pattern that has many of those who hold Boeing shares underwater. Over the past five years, Boeing’s stock is off about 25% while the S&P has dipped less than 5%.
    http://bit.ly/1bypF8D

     

    Airlines want cash compensation for Boeing 787 grounding - …
    articles.chicagotribun...
    There has been 114 cancelation of 787 and 5 airline are now ordering from Airbus
    http://reut.rs/1bypF8F
    Boeing jim Albaugh warn Boeing was unproven technologies and Boeing kept the 787 in production with the wing box problems and other problems in lue of stopping the assembly line and fixing the problems
    Boeing could offer a free fire truck with each purchase of the 787 to follow the aicraft around at the airport

     

    TIME to FIRE THE CEO AND ALL THE GE MANGEMENT THE BEEN RUNING BOEING
    13 Jul 2013, 08:37 PM Reply Like
  • raech22
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    Sounds more like a case of sabotage to me. Have to wait and see.
    14 Jul 2013, 02:32 AM Reply Like
  • Amber Li
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    It's quite complicated.
    14 Jul 2013, 11:43 PM Reply Like
  • John136
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    I am an Airline Transport Pilot. Something burned, and something else ignited it. The engines were not operating, so the source of ignition had to be electrical. If the airplane was not plugged into ground power, the source had to be the battery. In either case, it's an electrical fault. Where were the circuit breakers? In the earlier 787 battery issue, the broader question was the design of the entire electrical system of the airplane. That's the issue in this case as well.
    14 Jul 2013, 09:11 AM Reply Like
  • daro
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    John,

     

    I had similar thoughts. they should be able to explain why the fire happened. since the planes engines appear to have been off for hours, it probably had to do with the electrical system. if the batteries were not the problem, maybe that is worse. there is an issue in the electrical system and until they figure it out it is a new unknown.
    14 Jul 2013, 09:30 PM Reply Like
  • Dano1234
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    I wonder if there were any abnormally large short positions in the stock prior to the most recent fire a la Casino Royale.
    14 Jul 2013, 11:42 PM Reply Like
  • thomas85225
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    Three days after a fire aboard an Ethiopian Airways 787 Dreamliner, investigators are focusing on what role the plane's emergency locating transmitter (ELT) may have played in the fire.

     

    http://cnb.cx/1465ZaI

     

    note the news report the 787 had been park for 8 hours

     

    Aircraft Secure Checklist
    Pressurization OFF
    Air Conditioning Packs OFF
    Equipment Cooling OFF
    Window Heating OFF
    Hydraulic Pumps OFF
    Interior Lights OFF
    Battery Switch OFF
    External Power OFF
    Navigation Lights OFF
    Doors Closed/Locked CHECK

     

    Aircraft Secure ChecklistPressurization OFF
    Air Conditioning Packs OFF
    Equipment Cooling OFF
    Window Heating OFF
    Hydraulic Pumps OFF
    Interior Lights OFF
    Battery Switch OFF External Power OFF
    Navigation Lights OFF
    Doors Closed/Locked CHECK

     

    time to place the locating transmitter (ELT) into a metal box too
    15 Jul 2013, 04:31 PM Reply Like
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