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Seeking Alpha fires a shot at Bloomberg, StreetAccount

  • We spoke to our users. You told us Seeking Alpha is already your go-to provider of short-form breaking news. And you said that bullet points - the format favored by market professionals and popularized by expensive news providers like Bloomberg and StreetAccount - would make Market Currents even more awesome. We listened.
  • So today, our flagship short-form news - Market Currents - moves to a lightning-fast, easy-to-digest bulleted format.
  • Every Market Current now has a title, making it easier to skim the headlines and decide what to read and what to skip.
  • Seeking Alpha will continue to disrupt the short-form news market, and we'll always be free. Next up: Contributed news and commentary from industry insiders.
  • How do you like the bulleted format? How can we make Market Currents even better? Please let us know in the comments...
Comments (193)
  • I would rather have the symbol than the bullet points in front of the item; faster to scan.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:03 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks everyone for the feedback and input. We'll carefully consider and circle back.

     

    One key change we've made is to introduce a headline to each market current. We found in the past that the subject wasn't obvious unless you read the entire paragraph. By introducing a headline, we make it faster to figure out the subject matter, and you can then decide whether or not to read the bullet points.

     

    Introducing a headline also makes it easier to provide a better subject line for email alerts -- and we have 1.1 million subscribers to real time email alerts -- and should improve the mobile experience.

     

    Right now, the iPhone app experience with the new format isn't great, because it will take time for us to get the app update through Apple's process. Changes to the Android app should be faster.

     

    For those reading on the main MC page (http://bit.ly/xy34Z5), have you noticed the headlines, and any feedback on them?
    29 Jul 2013, 09:48 AM Reply Like
  • I agree with this comment. It makes it faster to go through the currents.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:42 AM Reply Like
  • Introducing a Headline & Bulleted Market Currents are really GOOD ones.
    But it'll be BETTER if Market Currents are non-Buleted in Home page :)
    29 Jul 2013, 12:19 PM Reply Like
  • It's an improvement to my eyes.

     

    Unrelated suggestion: You might some day want to consider using Serif fonts in the articles, or wherever lengthy passages of text occur.

     

    Traditional publishers often use Serif fonts for paragraph-oriented text. Studies have shown that Serif fonts provide more visual information, great for large blocks of text. Sans-Serif fonts look great for headings and short blocks of text, where the brain doesn't need to process much visual information.

     

    For ideas, see how the major newspapers do their fonts on their websites. They have a century of research and experience with font usage and they are excellent in their choices.

     

    Thanks for considering the input.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:04 PM Reply Like
  • Great addition..Thank you

     

    Do agree with Ruffdog also on symbol 1st
    29 Jul 2013, 07:11 AM Reply Like
  • agree on the symbol... Still remember the day that CNBC went to showing the company names along with the symbols on the scroll at the bottom. The name is a waste for anybody in the market.
    29 Jul 2013, 02:42 PM Reply Like
  • I have to agree on the stock symbols.

     

    How fast can I find the information I need right now, today? Not by reading the full company name + headline.

     

    Those of us who trade actively or even just follow one stock avidly have the symbols on our lists memorized; and having the symbol in the headline helps in learning new ones.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:50 PM Reply Like
  • Much easier to read the bullets. Would be nice to have a 3 column structure; Date/Time, Symbol, Bullets.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:16 AM Reply Like
  • I like the symbol in front much better.

     

    takes much longer now to read.

     

    Best regards and a great week

     

    Enrico
    29 Jul 2013, 08:04 AM Reply Like
  • bullets are much easier to read, especially for earnings. Agree it would be nice to have the Ticker symbol between the date and bullets in a third column to scan easily
    29 Jul 2013, 09:02 AM Reply Like
  • Great format, my only recommendation is to install an easy way to remove stocks in my "portfolio", as the world keeps moving....
    29 Jul 2013, 07:30 AM Reply Like
  • Hi Alpine, you can remove stocks from your portfolio by going to any of the portfolio page data pages under the Portfolio tab, such as http://bit.ly/WTl1th, and clicking on the "X" at the end of the line.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:54 AM Reply Like
  • awesome
    29 Jul 2013, 07:32 AM Reply Like
  • At some later date it would be nice to specify the type of current market data you want to see ( this is somewhat accomplished in the
    portfolio function)....otherwise Seeking Alpha is superb in providing free info....excellent...
    29 Jul 2013, 07:37 AM Reply Like
  • bbro, thanks for the kind comment. Can you explain more what you mean by "the type of current market data you want to see"?
    29 Jul 2013, 09:55 AM Reply Like
  • Seeking Alpha does provide the ability to narrow one's focus in the
    Market Currents...I guess I am looking for an even more streamlined focus with say just economic data release headlines...minor stuff...I am sure something on that order will be provided in the future...P.S. Congratulations on the success of this website....
    29 Jul 2013, 10:26 AM Reply Like
  • bbro, we have a section on US Economy: http://bit.ly/12XOc0o

     

    Would you want something more narrow than that? If so, what would be the exact definition?
    29 Jul 2013, 10:48 AM Reply Like
  • Keep up the good work
    29 Jul 2013, 07:38 AM Reply Like
  • IMO, previous format much more user friendly, in that it was easy to scan.. Also agree with Ruffdog about ticker symbols. Perhaps time will change this conservative mind.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:38 AM Reply Like
  • Agreed. The bullet points are a little stupid. Please dont' be "just like" Bloomberg or StreetAccount.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:45 AM Reply Like
  • I wish you'd stop forcing sign-in to read page two or 2nd half of articles. SA makes it impossible to cancel a membership. I prefer to read anonymously as possible, I know it can see my IP address. Keep the ability to search MC by symbol, and when searching SA by symbol, include MC in results.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:39 AM Reply Like
  • Having the symbol at the left made it easier to pick the companies you were interested in. The overall look is fine nice job.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:43 AM Reply Like
  • I like the bullet format, but please bring back the ticker.

     

    More importantly, give users a way to disable the auto-refresh. It's aggravating to read down to the third or fourth screenful, and have the page suddenly refresh and jump up to the top on us.

     

    Please let us read in peace!
    29 Jul 2013, 07:49 AM Reply Like
  • If you click on Today So Far, it will stop refreshing.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:06 AM Reply Like
  • Thank you! I can't believe I never tried that.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:26 AM Reply Like
  • Yep, works well too.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:43 AM Reply Like
  • I prefer the old format. I was easier to scan.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:53 AM Reply Like
  • Great improvement- bring back symbol- disable or slow auto refresh would be handy. All in all a great site.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:56 AM Reply Like
  • old format much easier/faster/user friendly. Do appreciate the newsfeed & automatic refresh
    29 Jul 2013, 07:57 AM Reply Like
  • The previous format was easier to scan, and should be returned. But will my opinion exert any influence with SA editors? LOL, of course not! I must say, however, that if the new format eliminates the spelling and grammatical errors that SA is notorious for, my opinion may change.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:57 AM Reply Like
  • Don't be so sure your opinion has no influence. My experience with SA staff is that they are very open to constructive criticism. Open a dialogue with them when possible, then nurture it. Some people's butts have been saved around here (Stocktalks).....because they DO listen. I know.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:38 AM Reply Like
  • Start with ticker. Also you need to have a little history so its not just the most current headline on the screen. I would suggest showing the first two lines of the story and hiding the main story with the option to "expand" if the user clicks on it. That way you can show many stories on the front page without the user having to go into the Market Currents to see back stories. Keep up the great work.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:59 AM Reply Like
  • I second Josh's suggestion. Fitting more stories on Market Currents would be better.

     

    I prefer the previous format. The new format seems to take up too much space with all the bulletpoints and spaces.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:50 AM Reply Like
  • Not good. I liked the para format. Same font size. Now we deal w small fonts and white space. Miss the stock symbol first. That was soooo convenient and useful.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:01 AM Reply Like
  • vtbob01, Assuming you're talking about the main Market Currents page (http://bit.ly/xy34Z5), the font size is actually the same. Perhaps introducing a headline for each Market Current in bold makes the text below look smaller...
    29 Jul 2013, 09:59 AM Reply Like
  • I miss having the ticker(s) on the left side. I do like the bullet format.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:01 AM Reply Like
  • I don't understand, you beat bloomberg with the format you had so now your going to change it? liked the fact that you could scroll down and see the symbols that you held quickly! Too bad
    29 Jul 2013, 08:04 AM Reply Like
  • mare maris pica, as an FYI, we're working on a new portfolio tab which will show Market Current just on your portfolio. I hope it will launch soon.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:01 AM Reply Like
  • " we're working on a new portfolio tab which will show Market Current just on your portfolio. I hope it will launch soon. " David Jackson

     

    That would be great!!!
    29 Jul 2013, 11:21 AM Reply Like
  • And a way to toggle the auto-refresh on and off would be terrific.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:04 AM Reply Like
  • Alain, clicking on "Today So Far" turns off auto-refresh. To turn it back on, click on "Latest".
    29 Jul 2013, 10:02 AM Reply Like
  • You ask "bullets?"
    I say Shoot!
    29 Jul 2013, 08:07 AM Reply Like
  • Like - and as many have said, put the symbol first and in blue - makes it easier to scan and see the "name"
    29 Jul 2013, 08:07 AM Reply Like
  • Love it !!!!!!!!
    29 Jul 2013, 08:08 AM Reply Like
  • Would be nice to have the symbol also under the time. New format is nice but harder to identify the symbols when scanning the page quickly. Thxs.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:08 AM Reply Like
  • Market Currents is a great feature and I like the new format. Nice change.

     

    (But, I agree with the previous comments about the symbol)
    29 Jul 2013, 08:10 AM Reply Like
  • nice, try to tuck the time in closer, too much space taken in vertical display of market currents. Time can be close to left of article in perhaps a different color or block with background color to make it stand out but not hog space. keep up the good work.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:11 AM Reply Like
  • Please get it to stop refreshing! Its quite annoying when trying to scroll through the stories.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:18 AM Reply Like
  • For me it's not easier to scan like this. But maybe more professional traders appreciate it
    29 Jul 2013, 08:23 AM Reply Like
  • Give us back the freeze button so we can choose not to be constantly interrupted and thrown back to the most recent update. Or perhaps, just keep us where we are in the chain with a pop-up notification that an update has been posted. The new format is much more readable.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:27 AM Reply Like
  • Previous format was a lot better.....
    29 Jul 2013, 08:33 AM Reply Like
  • Like the new format but agree that the symbol needs to be first for ease of scanning.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:34 AM Reply Like
  • Love the new format. Defnitely more readable. Bring back the symbols.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:35 AM Reply Like
  • Ditto X100 on the symbols. Awesome work overall though!
    29 Jul 2013, 08:38 AM Reply Like
  • Like the bullets but prefer the symbol to speed my reading. The three column approach ... time, symbol, bullets ... would be the best of all worlds for me.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:42 AM Reply Like
  • Seekingalpha can fire all shots its wants at Bloomberg, but Bloomberg is still better in article quality. I don't see all the rank pessimism on Bloomberg that I see here. As an example, Bloomberg just published an article on howthe divergence between real GDP and real income estimates indicates that real GDP is too low. Such an article would never come from such a pessimistic news organization as Seeking Alpha.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:44 AM Reply Like
  • American in Paris, I guess you're referring to our contributor articles, which you may feel are too pessimistic. Market Currents is our editor-generated short-form news product which covers all the key stories, irrespective of whether they are pessimistic or optimistic.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:04 AM Reply Like
  • I agree with others in bringing the ticker on the left hand side. Right now while I like the bullets I'm finding it taking longer cause I have to skim each and every one to see if it pertains to me or not.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:44 AM Reply Like
  • I prefer the old format. Shorter and easier to read. If you keep this format, it would be good if you has a separate column for the tickers.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:46 AM Reply Like
  • For the mobile app, the new format creates way too much white space. I would prefer a denser display of information. Try removing the cr-lf surrounding list items.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:49 AM Reply Like
  • peterburgess, are you using the Android app or the iPhone app? We should be out with updates for both apps, with the Android app first (due to Apple's app submission process).
    29 Jul 2013, 10:06 AM Reply Like
  • I'm using the iPhone5 with the SA app with push notifications enabled Probably, my most used app..
    30 Jul 2013, 08:32 AM Reply Like
  • go back to ticker format please.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:50 AM Reply Like
  • Good copy of Briefing. Format the earnings in a similar fashion.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:00 AM Reply Like
  • Agree with all that the ticker on the left was useful. Otherwise, I like the format (though it will take a few days to get used to).

     

    Question...is there a way to see Market Currents only on names in a Portfolio? I thought there was a while back, but I haven't been able to locate it in while.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:00 AM Reply Like
  • Brian: Are you accessing via the Web or mobile? You should be able to see this subset of Market Currents via the Portfolio view.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:30 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks for the reply Jason.

     

    I primarily access via the web at my desk. When I go to Portfolio view, I see the tabs at the top (Day Watch, Alerts, Holdings, Performance, etc.) and articles below (Focus, Pro, Related, etc.). I don't see Market Currents in either tab set. I could be wrong, but I thought this was something I could pull up in the past. Not a big deal, if/when tickers are brought back to the main Market Currents page I can quickly find posts on the names most near and dear to to my heart.

     

    Thanks again.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:45 AM Reply Like
  • Ah -- we are in the midst of some changes to Portfolio view so stay tuned. You should have the power back on the desktop to do this; mobile apps currently filter in the Market Currents in portfolio view.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:50 AM Reply Like
  • not helpful. prefer old format
    29 Jul 2013, 09:00 AM Reply Like
  • Great articles! Bring back the use of Symbols and add the ability to edit one's portfolio info, i.e. delete stock symbols!
    29 Jul 2013, 09:01 AM Reply Like
  • nice format but missing the symbols
    29 Jul 2013, 09:07 AM Reply Like
  • New format looks horrible. Please bring back the ticker format.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:14 AM Reply Like
  • ditto on tickers/symbols
    29 Jul 2013, 09:20 AM Reply Like
  • Where I had information, I now have a lot of white space. Real estate on the screen is valuable. To be better than Bloomberg, just get the news faster on the screen (without all the white space)
    29 Jul 2013, 09:21 AM Reply Like
  • love the new format
    29 Jul 2013, 09:22 AM Reply Like
  • Time - Tick - Short story should be good format.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:23 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks for all the feedback so far, folks ... keep it coming (whether pro or con) ...

     

    --Jason
    29 Jul 2013, 09:27 AM Reply Like
  • I Use SA everyday--and I'm grateful to get the free news. Your format is fine, except, for me, I would like to see the symbols on the side--so I can more quickly focus on news that affects my stocks. Also I find it disconcerting to have the screen automatically jump to the top. Is there anyway you can give users a way to pause that automatic jump. I thought it was a browser problem, but evidentally that is the way your feed works. I would sure like to be able to turn that off and on individually.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:33 AM Reply Like
  • Bullet point format is easier to read, but I will miss that Zero Hedge-type sarcasm we used to get sometimes in the paragraph format. My pet peeve is with the auto-refresh feature - hate that.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:33 AM Reply Like
  • Very inconvenient without the symbols.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:38 AM Reply Like
  • A year ago, I would go to CBS Marketwatch when I fired up the machine, but SA has blown Marketwatch and just about everyone else out of the water. The creators of SA are keeping me happy so far.

     

    Bloomberg is a outstanding site and I get the Bloomberg magazine and also use it on a regular basis online. The way I see it, both SA and Bloomberg are excellent investing sites.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:38 AM Reply Like
  • where are all your earnings reports??? having to resort to schwab's poor newsfeed for this! One of the best about SA was the earnings reports. Will miss it!
    29 Jul 2013, 09:39 AM Reply Like
  • pjsburk, we're still covering earnings. At the top of the main Market Currents page (http://bit.ly/xy34Z5) is a dropdown that says "All", and can be changed to "Earnings" if that's all you want to see. It takes you to:
    http://bit.ly/LJVYDx
    29 Jul 2013, 10:10 AM Reply Like
  • its in pull down tab now at the top.. and yeah it isn't ''user friendly'' .. the links in the side column were better. The new design offers nothing better that I can see..
    29 Jul 2013, 10:22 AM Reply Like
  • To all those who don't care for an auto-refreshing Market Currents page: We're listening to all your suggestions on that, but at the moment you can also turn that "off" like so:

     

    --There are three links visible at the top of the stream: "Latest | Today so far | Yesterday"
    --The "Latest" (default view) auto-refreshes, but if you pick "Today so far" or "Yesterday" it locks in for easier reading. You'll have to refresh those views yourself, though.
    --On either of those two latter views, at the very bottom of the stream is a link reading "Other date" which lets you select any Market Currents day you want to read -- if you want to go back to key dates or events, or days you might have missed.

     

    Hope that helps.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:43 AM Reply Like
  • My wife and I both like the new format during our daily reads. Agree with the ticker symbol, AND would like to be able to NOT sign in so often like it use to be.

     

    Very pleased. You are our first read each morning and our last read in the evening.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:45 AM Reply Like
  • Earnings news would be vastly better with a comparison to the prior quarter and year, as well as the degree of Beat or Miss...
    29 Jul 2013, 09:45 AM Reply Like
  • Having the old composition format was much faster to read. Now we're getting shot to death by bullets. Appreciate your service and have a second screen for SA. Thxs!
    29 Jul 2013, 09:45 AM Reply Like
  • Love the new format...much more meaty and easier to read...clean and clear.

     

    Good work guys!
    29 Jul 2013, 09:52 AM Reply Like
  • Agree with comments to bring the tickers back.

     

    Not crazy about the new format--too much formatting and white space. If you're going to keep it, at least make the Market Currents column longer. During busy times (like now during earnings season), half of the time I'm still reading a news item when it gets pushed off of the screen by the next item. With the old formatting, 3-4 items fit in the column at a time giving me more time to finish reading.

     

    Feel bad complaining though, great site.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:21 AM Reply Like
  • I totally agree with this, I am only seeing one item or maybe two and when it goes by so quick, it can be annoying.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:20 AM Reply Like
  • Number of comments might be telling. If people don't like the format I would think commenting would go down.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:39 AM Reply Like
  • Horrible change

     

    Was way faster to read before
    29 Jul 2013, 10:40 AM Reply Like
  • First, lead with ticker, as most have said above. Second, Market Currents is a great FREE resource. I compare it more to Briefing.com ($300 annual subscription) than Bloomberg for trading info. Case in point, nine out of ten of the items I need for day trading come from Briefing, while one of ten comes from Market Currents. I get what I pay for.

     

    That said, I can't talk back to Briefing.com in real time like I can here. You have a great site. Kudos to you David, and Adam, and Tim Bernard, SA Community Manager, for trying to make SA even better...and listening to us when we say you have gone too far. Don't try to fix what ain't broke....lead with the ticker. Cheers!
    29 Jul 2013, 10:56 AM Reply Like
  • BTW, we Stocktalkers still need our own banner "place to click", to the right of "Home, Portfolio, Market Currents"...and before "Investing Ideas...etc." Why should we have to go "Home", then Stocktalks....? Ask the tech guys if this could be done. Thanks.....
    29 Jul 2013, 11:06 AM Reply Like
  • <<Case in point, nine out of ten of the items I need for day trading come from Briefing, while one of ten comes from Market Currents. I get what I pay for.>>

     

    Perkins Cove, can you be more specific. Is it that they're faster than us? Or that they're covering things we aren't? And do you have any sense of which areas we're beating them on?
    29 Jul 2013, 11:10 AM Reply Like
  • Eli, both....in general. As to timing on common items, they win, but not by much. The big difference is in items covered. Where they start posting individual stock info before 5:00am, you folk are just warming up. And, the amount of items they cover exceeds yours ten to one, maybe more.

     

    My experience is you beat them when you post %gainers/losers. They do not do that, as a group, until later in the morning. You do it at one point AH, then again @ 9:10ish in pre. But you also note individual high % moves in between. That's where you win. As a day trader...that's what I need. Lot's of %...either way.

     

    Let me point out that my subscription of $300 gets me only the info I think I need at this point of my trading evolution. Briefing.com has much higher performing sections, with the commensurate costs.

     

    Also, I use both of you for background on possible day trades. Your set up, "articles", "market currents", "stocktalks" lets me check out 3 areas quickly. Theirs only gives me past data...with no...no....humanity.

     

    Hope this helps you and the SA Community, as Lord knows I have been helped by Y'all.....
    29 Jul 2013, 11:43 AM Reply Like
  • Agreed with most. Without the ticker symbol it's still hard to read.

     

    Please add back the symbol to the left hand side near the time.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:07 AM Reply Like
  • Also agree with Ruffdog also on symbol 1st place.

     

    How do I scan news from Market Currents ?

     

    Thanks,
    29 Jul 2013, 11:19 AM Reply Like
  • I like it a lot! The only thing I suggest is having the ticker symbol in the headline.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:20 AM Reply Like
  • It seems to have been mentioned before, but I'll add on, I they font/size doesn't seem to blend in with the front page as well now. It looks fine on its own in the Market Currents tab, it looks misformatted or out of place on the Home tab.

     

    I would also have the headline be the link to the full content/story instead of a link inside a bullet.

     

    Using Firefox, Windows 7.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:21 AM Reply Like
  • Congratulations.

     

    When are you going to have the IPO?
    29 Jul 2013, 11:24 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks for all your work, but the old format was a much faster read. I chose SA because I was able to scan so quickly. Every news item, like earnings, doesn't require bullets. Also, try to "copy/paste" 2-3 consecutive news items (or especially earnings) .... it's a time-consuming disaster to fix it on an MS Word page.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:25 AM Reply Like
  • thorn, that's interesting. Can you give more background so I can understand your goals: why are you looking to paste them into a Word doc? (Wonder if there's a better way to help you).
    29 Jul 2013, 11:29 AM Reply Like
  • My goal is to spot (or confirm) trends. I copy/paste 1-2 pages a day, much of it from SA, and keep them in a binder to serve as a quick scan. I then research whatever catches my attention. Your old format has helped me spot numerous future trends (by industry and by company) where I was able to stock pick successfully.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:49 AM Reply Like
  • I agree with thorn. The old format was much faster to read. I also agree with other comments regarding the excessive white space and lack of ticker symbols. Overall, the old format was much better in my opinion.

     

    Also, I think the currents are too lengthy. I appreciate how brief they were previously. If I am interested in reading more, I would follow the link.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:51 PM Reply Like
  • Dividend announcements take up too much space - headlne plus 5 bullet lines.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:27 AM Reply Like
  • That is incorrect...

     

    * Dividend
    * announcements
    * take
    * up
    * too
    * much
    * space

     

    Much better :)
    29 Jul 2013, 03:38 PM Reply Like
  • I agree. An announcement of maintaining the same dividend is not newsworthy, and certainly shouldn't use up a quarter screenful.
    29 Jul 2013, 05:33 PM Reply Like
  • Add me to the list of people who want the symbols back. I don't enjoy reading the currents as much in this format and will likely look for another news source if it stays this way.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:27 AM Reply Like
  • I definitely don't like the bullets. It takes too long to scan and there is alot more scrolling involved when you've been gone and are trying to catch up. I do definitely like the bold headline for each item. It makes it easy for me to see if this is something I want to read or not. The new format is too spread out as well.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:32 AM Reply Like
  • "Seeking Alpha fires a shot at Bloomberg"

     

    This headline looks too much like an assassination attempt on our NYC mayor!
    29 Jul 2013, 11:41 AM Reply Like
  • The bullets do take up more space on the home page. Maybe just the headline? It would leave room for much more currents on the home page.

     

    As long as were ranting can something be done to clarify the stocktalk on the home page. People many times just type in symbols no $ no caps expecting something when nothing shows they move on. Checking on who it is it's mostly new users.
    29 Jul 2013, 11:41 AM Reply Like
  • Good point bus driver. Annoying.
    29 Jul 2013, 12:02 PM Reply Like
  • related formatting note - the "top articles" change places too frequently - perhaps slow down the recalibration by 2-3 seconds to allow me to read all 10 and choose one before they move/disappear?
    29 Jul 2013, 11:41 AM Reply Like
  • Totally agree.
    29 Jul 2013, 05:16 PM Reply Like
  • I bet you Bloomberg ends up buying SA......
    29 Jul 2013, 11:47 AM Reply Like
  • ....what are the odds....? hehe
    29 Jul 2013, 12:06 PM Reply Like
  • Would love to be able to see stocktalks through the iphone app...and get alerts through the iphone app on any stocktalks by authors followed
    29 Jul 2013, 12:00 PM Reply Like
  • David, thank you for staying on top of this comment stream!

     

    Is it possible to include only the bolded title in the front page portion that contains market currents? As it currently is working, one can only see ONE market current from the home page-- would be much more helpful to see maybe the last 3-5.

     

    Also I'm rebumping the ticker symbol again-- this was a huge help to quickly scan the updates, and I really miss it!
    29 Jul 2013, 12:11 PM Reply Like
  • The bullets are a step in the wrong direction, no matter what Bloomberg may do.

     

    The results of bullets is to make the Market Currents column on the home page show almost no more than a single entry, as all the detail provided by bullets eats up the remainder of the column. Market Currents should be headlines, not detail, and any user could click a link for any item and get added detail, as it was before. Now, as source of visible scrolling news headlines on the home page, Market Currents has been rendered near useless.

     

    Aside from a return to the old format, what would really be beneficial would be for Market Currents to be a much longer column, taking the whole vertical space on a screen if possible, or for it to be configurable by users to their specific desires.
    29 Jul 2013, 12:20 PM Reply Like
  • Agreed- just because Bloomberg does something, doesn't mean it's a great idea. The Bloomberg advantage is in massive coverage/detail about everything related to a stock and in SPEED. The bullet points are a minor formatting issue.
    29 Jul 2013, 12:27 PM Reply Like
  • Tack, I'm especially interested in your take here, because it's been interesting to see the use cases for Market Currents change -- people discovering them via the home page shrinking some, while people entering MCs through alerts (emails/notifications) on a very strong growth path.

     

    Do you find yourself spending a lot of time on the SA home page (watching MCs as well as changing top opinion articles)? vs. spending time on the Market Currents page (http://bit.ly/xy34Z5)?
    29 Jul 2013, 12:28 PM Reply Like
  • Hi Tack, I'll leave Jason to address the content issues (he runs the Market Currents team), so I'll just focus on the product issues. The Market Currents unit on the home page (not the Top News unit, but the unit below that) didn't show only headlines - it always showed full Market Currents. But perhaps that's your impression because but the new format takes more space so you see fewer of them.

     

    One of the advantages of moving to headline + bullets is that we can now show headlines wherever we want to, and experiment with the ability to expand to see the details without leaving the page.

     

    We couldn't do that with the previous version, because there was no headline.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:23 PM Reply Like
  • David:

     

    While I understand, I still find the present large-format expansion for any single item a counterproductive use of home-page real estate. The real benefit of life in a hyperlink world is that any user, who wished any amount of additional detail, could click a link and go there, but the home page remained a summary command center.

     

    To me, it would be no different in rationale than if the Top Articles section, instead of just having titles, suddenly started showing all the article text or a series of bullets, summarizing each article. It's just too much information in one spot, and the user has no ability to alter the format.

     

    One compromise I could suggest would be the ability to of users to select a consolidated or expanded view, as one can do on many sites by clicking a +/- toggle. Then, those that want bullets and detail could have them, and those that wanted more one-line items could have that, too.

     

    P.S. Also, the Market Currents page should be designed to auto update, just like the market Currents column on the Home page.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:33 PM Reply Like
  • Good reply, and great avatar Tack....
    29 Jul 2013, 01:36 PM Reply Like
  • JA:

     

    I spend almost no time on the Market-Currents page.

     

    The Market-Currents page does not auto update, and it also lags the home page, sometimes by minutes, even if you manually refresh it. I find the page of little use unless I need to scroll back to an old item.

     

    I alternate time between two principal pages: the Home page and the My-Feed page. I use the home page to track breaking news, top articles and a general glance at SA's "estimated" indices. I use the My-Feed page to track comments from people I follow and can go from there to articles of interest.

     

    The new format of the Market Currents on the Home page has made it much less useful, in my opinion. I had found the length of the section too short, as previously formatted, causing news items to scroll off the page too fast. Now, the entire section is usually taken up by a single news item, which has all the bullet detail, whether the reader is interested or not.

     

    It's just not a positive move, at least as I would judge.
    29 Jul 2013, 12:45 PM Reply Like
  • Tack, that's v. useful feedback - thank you. We'll check the performance on the main Market Currents page and ensure it's fast. We're reconsidering a more radical design of the home page.

     

    Do you use Market Currents to track all market developments, or mainly what's going on with your stocks?
    29 Jul 2013, 01:28 PM Reply Like
  • David:

     

    I use Market Currents more like Briefing.com, a continuous real-time feed of news of any kind. I follow specific stock news in the Portfolio section and by e-mail alerts.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:45 PM Reply Like
  • Tack:

     

    The MC page auto updates in the sense that it automatically reloads -- in fact some other comments in this thread don't like that -- but I suspect you are talking about the AJAX-style, "slide-in" update that doesn't refresh the whole page (which is how it works in the home page unit)?

     

    Which is something we can take a look at, performance-wise.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:31 PM Reply Like
  • JA:

     

    Yes. I even ran the Home page and Market Currents page side by side, and noted that a new entry could appear on the Home page and not be able to be displayed on the Market Currents page, even with immediate and repeated manual updates, sometimes for 1-2 minute later. This isn't sufficiently timely.

     

    The style of the Home page updates is far more elegant.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:34 PM Reply Like
  • Finally...another user of Briefing.com comes forth. That is the site I use right after my broker platform. SA is third. While I have learned strategy from SA, Briefing is the place to go for up to the minute info.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:51 PM Reply Like
  • Mentioned it above as an aside.....but we Stocktalkers deserve our own banner space. "Home, Portfolio, Market Currents, STOCKTALKS, Investing Ideas, etc....

     

    I started here because of the articles. Got quickly turned off as I found for every pro article on a stock/etf/commodity there was a negative one. Who to believe? Market Currents, on the other hand, is just that...market currents. The life blood of a trader.

     

    But 2nd in importance for some is Stocktalks. (Witness the Joe Springer phenomenon.) Yet Stocktalks is a poor step-child...one who one must go to "Home" to find. Not fair. We Stocktalkers count too. Give us a space on the banner. Neither Bloomberg nor Briefing does that.
    29 Jul 2013, 12:57 PM Reply Like
  • Agree. We're on it. :-)
    29 Jul 2013, 01:29 PM Reply Like
  • Wow...cool. And to think I was on moderation...twice. This is truly a Community...SA is us. Thank you David !
    29 Jul 2013, 01:49 PM Reply Like
  • I very much like the bullet point format.I do agree with the other commentators, relative to printing the symbol first and then providing the commentary.I'm sure that you might make a tweak or two based upon the consensus of your subscribers.Keep up the GREAT work!!
    29 Jul 2013, 01:11 PM Reply Like
  • Prefer the previous format immensely. The time and symbol (or no symbol for govt/political/general news) were my keys. And the entire window was more compact, with more news in a smaller footprint, allowing speedreaders to grasp more in a glance. To your credit, the new bulleted format is a great addition once I locate an item of interest, but too much scrolling to find that item. Headlines are OK, but the symbol is absolutely necessary. In any case, excellent service, no doubt.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:11 PM Reply Like
  • I don't like the new format and prefer the prior one with some modification. having 3 columns may be better and also making sure tickers are very noticeable is important.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:12 PM Reply Like
  • OMG, this is far worse than I thought. Go back to the previous format, do not delay, do not pass Go.....
    29 Jul 2013, 01:32 PM Reply Like
  • I like bullet-points, but this is overkill.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:43 PM Reply Like
  • Thumbs down. This looks retarded. It's so much more difficult to read now. There is a lot empty wasted space on the screen.
    29 Jul 2013, 01:53 PM Reply Like
  • The hallmark of any great business is its willingness to innovate and change, purposefully. You have just provided an excellent example.

     

    Please keep up the good work!
    29 Jul 2013, 01:54 PM Reply Like
  • But the hallmark of a good human is to admit they made a mistake, and make reparations. Thus is the conundrum SA faces. Is SA a business....or a community? Or both?

     

    Kudos for the try.....but the previous way was better.

     

    I'm betting on Community...big C, then business....small b.

     

    Hope I'm right....'cuz this place is special.
    29 Jul 2013, 02:19 PM Reply Like
  • This new addition will beat Bloomberg, Market Watch's in-play, etc.
    29 Jul 2013, 02:15 PM Reply Like
  • Might be a bit of a distraction, but in regards to market current improvements, and including more detail, it might be helpful to include blurbs from related articles. For example (there are probably much much better examples, but easiest to use myself as an example) there was a bullet on DCIX this morning:

     

    Diana Containerships EPS in-line, misses on revenue
    Diana Containerships (DCIX): Q2 EPS of -$0.02 in-line.Revenue of $12.2M misses by $1.1M. (PR)

     

    The stock is now off by 9% and I wrote an article (published as a small cap insight) that puts a target at $3.50 (another 14% of downside), perhaps a market current could say:

     

    Diana Containerships (http://bit.ly/17YQTFo) down 9% after reporting Q2-13 results. Seeking Alpha's J Mintzmyer suggests further downside is ahead with a price target of $3.50. J Mintzmyer first placed a sell on DCIX back in early February when the stock was near $7.

     

    This would accomplish 2 things:

     

    1) Further promote the articles/research community that Seeking Alpha has built.

     

    2) Provide compliments to other such market currents as "[Insert Analyst Here] at [Insert Firm Here] raises the Price Target of [Insert Company Here] to $$$." If those types of updates are 'worthy' of a news current than why are Seeking Alpha's own analysts/contributors not worthy of a similar update.

     

    I'm not suggesting every single article or community price target is worthy of a current, but when an author provides a model and a price target and is an established SA contributor, that should carry some weight.

     

    Why shouldn't a Seeking Alpha downgrade/upgrade move the markets as much as a Raymond James or Piper Jaffray, etc.
    29 Jul 2013, 02:32 PM Reply Like
  • Who's to say Raymond James or Piper Jaffrey has more cred than SA's Joe Springer? Fact is, they don't. But that is here on SA.

     

    Only when the retail trader/investor learns about SA will it become more relevant. That is the challenge. It's all about credibility....the more you have, the more people will listen.
    29 Jul 2013, 02:48 PM Reply Like
  • Perkins- exactly. My point is that if SA wants to boost this credibility, they need to start acting like it by giving their own writers the same level of currents/headlining as they give other analysts.

     

    SA did an experimental run with this about a year ago where they would have different front page themes-- i.e. "Blackberry Turnaround Ahead?" and have 2-3 editor's choice articles under it. This was an interesting idea, but I think the top 10 is better.

     

    The quality of Seeking Alpha articles in general has markedly improved over the past 2 years I've been here. It's been a great ride!
    29 Jul 2013, 05:38 PM Reply Like
  • Great feedback. And I totally agree. SA authors (IOW buyside-analysis) is not only as important and impactful as sell-side research, it's more so!

     

    I don't know if you've noticed but Jason's team is already doing a good job of linking to influential SA-organic analysis from within Market Currents. We're also upgrading our internal content management system - which Jason's team uses to compose Market Currents - so that related SA articles surface automatically as the MC analyst is composing his Market Current. Having the information at their fingertips, as opposed to having to remember to go looking for it, should boost our efficiency here as well.
    30 Jul 2013, 04:37 AM Reply Like
  • Seeking Alpha is the BEST!!!
    29 Jul 2013, 02:42 PM Reply Like
  • I have no problem picking out the symbols from the text.
    The bullets do clean up the sheet a little bit though.
    29 Jul 2013, 02:51 PM Reply Like
  • I'm really, really trying to benefit from this new format but .... I just don't have enough time to read so much. I'd like to scan for info quickly, click on items I want to research, and act on it.
    I need momentum to be able to get a feel for the market (with a headline and 1-2 lines). Right now I'm getting stuck in too much info. I'm still trying. I'd love to stay with SA if I can....
    29 Jul 2013, 03:01 PM Reply Like
  • David....we're losing thorn......go back...go back....it's not too late.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:08 PM Reply Like
  • LOL ; ) .... Thanks Perkins .... I needed a light-hearted moment.
    That was sweet of you.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:12 PM Reply Like
  • Hang in here thorn...we need prickers....hehe

     

    There is much more to SA than just Market Currents. Or Articles by Learned People. It is in fact a community...not unlike a dis-functional family.....that is weak as one...but strong as all. Cheers.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:32 PM Reply Like
  • The bullets look a little too large - seems like the font on the bullets is larger than the text font.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • Big mistake! We're looking for stocks not time of day. Tickers in the margin is what I liked most about your service. Change has doubled the time it takes to scan the list so I'll be looking elsewhere for a more efficient format.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • Like the bullets, however opportunity to keep simple via just company name and symbol included in heading. The mobile version is preferred as it does have the symbols first.

     

    Opportunity for one consistent experience across desktop and mobile.

     

    Thank you
    29 Jul 2013, 03:29 PM Reply Like
  • The new Market Currents format is an information presentation disaster.

     

    I find it much more difficult to scan the Market Currents now for relevant information as they do not effectively highlight the stock tickers for each article and consume WAY too much vertical space, both extremely detrimental for quick reviewing.

     

    Please add an option to our accounts so we can prefer the old format.
    29 Jul 2013, 03:48 PM Reply Like
  • David, you're getting hammered here. Now's the time to "circle back" (your term) and head back to the barn.....grin

     

    You had it good...and didn't know it. Neither did we, until you changed it.

     

    You double back....we all win.

     

    Your friend,
    Clint Eastwood

     

    (please don't "make my day"......)
    29 Jul 2013, 04:05 PM Reply Like
  • BTW, you might want to take down that "Seeking Alpha fires a shot at Bloomberg"....

     

    You didn't clear the holster.....
    29 Jul 2013, 05:14 PM Reply Like
  • Big improvement.
    29 Jul 2013, 05:27 PM Reply Like
  • Could we please get some access to stocktalks via mobile app? And some way to check in on our stream or community? These are the most useful parts of SA for me and I can't do any of it on my phone.
    29 Jul 2013, 05:39 PM Reply Like
  • Thank you for a great site.

     

    I really miss the 'Time Postings' I like seeing the time you post your information.

     

    All the best,

     

    George
    29 Jul 2013, 07:10 PM Reply Like
  • I like the way you seem to have standardized the earnings postings.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:16 PM Reply Like
  • Are the Market Currents typed in by SA Staff or is it an automated system?
    29 Jul 2013, 07:16 PM Reply Like
  • We are extremely human ...

     

    ... using what techno-help we can, along the way, but I'd contrast what we're putting together using human editors with some of what I've seen that's automated, and adds little value or context. I think the best of what we're doing is illuminating ideas and connections in each market day, for involved investors.
    30 Jul 2013, 01:08 AM Reply Like
  • Thank you for the reply, Jason. I appreciate the work!
    30 Jul 2013, 10:45 AM Reply Like
  • In the last couple weeks... I see a Market Current on the home page next to the portfolio section, open in a new tab and it says, the page you are trying to reach is no longer available.

     

    Example from today...

     

    PBI:Pitney Bowes Inc. declares $0.1875 dividend
    ... links to... http://seekingalpha.co...

     

    Doesn't go anywhere.
    29 Jul 2013, 07:34 PM Reply Like
  • Thank you for this comment. Our tech team will look into it and fix this.
    Sharon.
    30 Jul 2013, 02:53 AM Reply Like
  • Bullets, sure go ahead. You guys know what yer doing, I believe--SA has become a very important part of my online "life".
    29 Jul 2013, 08:37 PM Reply Like
  • Maybe the new format is ok for the separate market currents page but the homepage should not have it. I think the old format worked much better for the homepage so you got more info about different topics on the homepage. Now one group takes up the entire homepage market currents. Agree with everyone else too about the ticker at the beginning.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:38 PM Reply Like
  • Please add back the time of day for each headline. Makes ot easier to scroll through.
    Liked the old format better. Too much information. If one wants details they could click on the headline and it took you to the referenced PR.
    Also font is very small (maybe just on iphone)
    Overall displays too much information on a quick scroll through.
    29 Jul 2013, 08:58 PM Reply Like
  • The time of day is next to each headline. It's in a grey'ish color though.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:30 PM Reply Like
  • miss having the symbols on the left side - easier to scan
    29 Jul 2013, 09:09 PM Reply Like
  • The next days earnings announcements show up on Market Currents. But these should be removed and made a stand alone feature.

     

    The thing I would most appreciate would be a good calender of earnings for the stocks in my portfolio. Granted a day or two or some times a week or two before I find a earnings preview or something or a earnings announcement. But I generally scour the internet to find the estimated earnings date, put it in a Excel spreadsheet and then I have to search the internet closer to the earnings announcement to find the actual date and time and then manually update my excel spreadsheet. When you have to make plans on certain days, weeks ahead of time and you have thousands and tens of thousands of dollars in stock and options, you certainly need a good updated earnings calender.

     

    Numerous websites purport to offer earnings calenders, but most of them are inaccurate. When you buy options, three to six months in advance, you really need to know if the options expire the week before the earnings or the week after.

     

    To me at least, getting a good calender that is actually updated based on actual company announcements for earnings, would be a great feature on SA.
    29 Jul 2013, 09:36 PM Reply Like
  • I guess no one uses RSS any more, and I don't see anyone mentioning this. In the RSS feed, the headers didn't become the subject of the RSS items, so for some items, I have no idea what it is about.
    29 Jul 2013, 10:49 PM Reply Like
  • Thanks for this. Our team will take a look and fix this. Sharon.
    30 Jul 2013, 02:48 AM Reply Like
  • I greatly preferred the old format, as it now takes much more time to scan through a day's or half day's worth of market currents. So much more time that I might just try to find another source.

     

    Please add an option so we can choose to retain the old format.
    30 Jul 2013, 02:53 AM Reply Like
  • awesome! when is the IPO for Seeking Alpha!
    30 Jul 2013, 03:51 AM Reply Like
  • Introducing a Headline & Bulleted Market Currents are really GOOD ones.
    But it'll be BETTER if Market Currents are non-Buleted in Home page :-)
    30 Jul 2013, 03:58 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks everyone for your awesome feedback.

     

    We're going to revert back to showing the key symbol on the main Market Currents page as we did previously. Once it's live, please let us know how it looks to you.

     

    I'm also curious to know how you feel about the switch from paragraphs to bullets after we revert the symbol column. While bullets do consume more vertical space, I still believe they are a far superior user experience once you've decided to read a specific Market Current.

     

    Also remember that Market Currents aren't just a web product. Every Market Current is sent to hundreds, thousands, or even tens of thousands of real-time email alert subscribers. Have any of you received the new format (real title + bulleted Current) in an email alert? How do you feel about the experience there?
    30 Jul 2013, 04:47 AM Reply Like
  • It works fine (IMO) on the alerts. The time and ticker still need to be much more prominent on the news scroll on the iPhone app. It should be a part of the headline (and probably bold).

     

    I'll reiterate I could live with the bullets and headlines in Market Currents if the column were longer on the Home page.

     

    Thank you for listening to suggestions.
    30 Jul 2013, 11:34 AM Reply Like
  • Eli,

     

    Generally, I like the bullets and I like having the stock symbol. However, it seems like the Market Currents items have gotten longer and longer. For a recent example, please look at the 8/2 item on Maxwell (MXWL). It has 7 bulleted paragraphs, and seems too long.

     

    When an item like this shows up on my main page, it fills up the space and blows out whatever was there. It used to be that I could see the headlines of maybe 3-5 items in the Market Currents summary.

     

    I especially like to be able to see each individual item as it comes up on my main page. Lately there will be a whole "reel" of new items that spin through too fast to read.

     

    Maybe just the headlines? Or, maybe a headline and a summary bullet for each item? Whenever I see something of interest to me, I can easily follow it to the Market Currents page and read details.

     

    Thanks!
    2 Aug 2013, 01:23 PM Reply Like
  • Certainly is a shot across the Bow.
    30 Jul 2013, 06:16 AM Reply Like
  • Thanks for the symbols back much better.
    30 Jul 2013, 07:36 AM Reply Like
  • The symbols are an improvement, but like other posters I feel it would be nice to have a setting to revert back to the old style. The bullet format and white space takes up a lot of real estate on the screen. The spacing between the bullets and individual market currents also requires adjustment. I feel its harder to quickly identify the end of one current and the start of the next.

     

    Regarding the e-mail alerts, the bullets aren't so bad there. Ultimately I may rely on those more and visit the site less because it takes too long to identify interesting items.
    30 Jul 2013, 08:43 AM Reply Like
  • Please create an app for Blackberry... it will really be appreciated from the users
    30 Jul 2013, 09:05 AM Reply Like
  • Marcbee, we don't currently have plans for a Blackberry app. In the meantime, our mobile website should work well on a Blackberry, and you can get email alerts on your stocks instead of notifications in an app.
    30 Jul 2013, 10:02 AM Reply Like
  • Thank you all for bringing back the symbol column.

     

    The only thing I would suggest is to condense each current. Especially dividend currents. Those should say the company, amount, and % and then have the details in a clickable link.
    30 Jul 2013, 10:49 AM Reply Like
  • Love the new change with the symbol and the bullets very helpful. THANKS
    30 Jul 2013, 12:18 PM Reply Like
  • * There
    * is
    * too
    * much
    * information
    * on
    * each
    * news
    * item.
    * It
    * takes
    * too
    * long
    * to
    * scan
    * for
    * news.
    I really like SA but it's easy to lose momentum with this new format.
    30 Jul 2013, 01:39 PM Reply Like
  • I like the new format. The headlines make quick scanning easier.

     

    I often print the entire "Today So Far" a couple hours after the close (I get tired of staring at a computer screen all day). What used to average about 18 pages was 60 pages today. Not a complaint, just a comment on how much white space was added.

     

    On the dividend announcements, the last 3 bullets could easily be put on one line: Ex-date, record date, pay date. That would save a couple pages each day right there, eliminate some scrolling effort, etc.
    31 Jul 2013, 01:44 AM Reply Like
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