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Charles Murray’s new book highlights striking trends among less-educated white Americans,...

Charles Murray’s new book highlights striking trends among less-educated white Americans, with marriage rates and male labor force participation down, and out-of-wedlock births up. But Paul Krugman finds it "amazing how quickly and blithely conservatives dismiss the seemingly obvious answer: A drastic reduction in the work opportunities available to less-educated men."
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  • 2PP
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    The mistake my generation made was thinking everyone of our kids are college material, fortunately my 7 were. America needs trash haulers, laborers, truck drivers and ditch diggers too. What is missing is the work ethic to except a job below what you think you are worth. Making $10 an hour at a convenience store is better than sitting on the sofa making nothing. Except when you can get 99 weeks of unemployment payments without breaking a sweat.
    10 Feb 2012, 06:24 PM Reply Like
  • Poor Texan
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    "Except when you can get 99 weeks of unemployment payments without breaking a sweat. "

     

    And pick up enough for a few six packs by working 'off the clock'.
    10 Feb 2012, 07:50 PM Reply Like
  • Tom DiLello
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    That's exactly right 2PP.
    10 Feb 2012, 06:35 PM Reply Like
  • Terry330
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    America need more union jobs that pay enough so people will not sit home and draw unemployment pay, or take $10 hour jobs and also draw food stamps, Medicaid, free school lunches, public housing, etc. If Conservatives insist on low pay then taxes on wealthy must be raised to pay for state and federal benefits for working poor.
    10 Feb 2012, 07:15 PM Reply Like
  • 2PP
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    Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah.
    I see people who are on food stamps buying the most expensive food, talking on an internet ready cell phone and then leave in their $40k SUV. I think the unions would be seen in a better light if they weren't bought and paid for by the Democrat Party, case in point all the CPAC protestors were paid $60 a day by the AFL-CIO to protest. Are those the good union jobs you speak of? Some of them didn't even know what CPAC is or what they were protesting. If you feel the need to give more in taxes, be my guest.
    10 Feb 2012, 07:22 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Right you are Terry. It is more challenging to develop a sufficiently large pool of decent paying jobs for those that traditionally did the menial or physical labour in the modern advanced nations but these nations must rise to that challenge or face the negative economic, political and social consequences of having a large marginalized sector of outsiders in society.

     

    While people with low marketable skills have a responsibility to try to gain skills and find work, it is the responsibility of the larger society to realize the challenge posed by the growing mismatch between the labour force and the jobs available. Simply writing off such structural unemployment and turning one's nose up in reaction to the unemployed compounds and does not serve to address the challenges to be faced.
    10 Feb 2012, 07:44 PM Reply Like
  • Poor Texan
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    "It is more challenging to develop a sufficiently large pool of decent paying jobs for those that traditionally did the menial or physical labour in the modern advanced nations but these nations must rise to that challenge"

     

    Yes Bob it is the government's responsibility, not the individuals.:-( Whose responsibility is it when anarchy reigns?
    10 Feb 2012, 07:53 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Poor Texan -

     

    As I tried to state in my earlier comment, when it comes to a challenge of this magnitude in a society, both the individuals and the society (including the government) need to play their roles if the challenge is to be adequately addressed. Isolated individuals alone can only do so much to resolve their personal employment issues in the face of an economy that simply does not need the labour that they have to offer.
    10 Feb 2012, 08:02 PM Reply Like
  • Poor Texan
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    Bob,

     

    I understood your comment but society grows from the family (and tribes) and government should be more of a referee than a ruler. I personally am concerned with the breakdown in the family and feel we cannot have a good government without the basic family unit as a building block. If the parents (if there are any) cannot nuture the child, why think the government can? This thread originated from a comment on family breakdown and degenerated from there.
    10 Feb 2012, 10:15 PM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS-2.0
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    Terry,

     

    Have you actually ever posted a stock pick, or an investment idea on SA.?
    Who do you really work for?
    10 Feb 2012, 08:44 PM Reply Like
  • Terry330
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    I bought a new ETF today (PERM) from Global X and trades free from Interactive Brokers. ETF has long track record as mutual fund and returns about 6%-10% per year.
    10 Feb 2012, 10:05 PM Reply Like
  • Russ Winter
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    Well at least the impoverished white working class isn't carrying a trillion student debt like the educated, so called upper classes.
    11 Feb 2012, 12:08 PM Reply Like
  • bob adamson
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    Russ -

     

    On the other hand, the growing US underclass composed of all ethnic and cultural backgrounds has a skills and educational deficit that is growing and of incalculable size. A size clearly greater that even the debt load posed for middle America by consumer indebtedness (including mortgage debt and student debt).
    11 Feb 2012, 01:14 PM Reply Like
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