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Amazon planning to deliver products using drones

  • An example of truth being stranger than fiction? During a 60 Minutes interview, Jeff Bezos (AMZN) states Amazon is experimenting with fulfilling small orders (5 pounds or less) using autonomous drone aircraft. The drone service, called Prime Air (video), is expected to go live in 4-5 years.
  • Bezos hopes the drones will allow Amazon to deliver goods within 30 minutes. "I know this looks like science fiction. It’s not."
  • The initiative is bound to face some regulatory challenges; FAA rules for drone flights in U.S. airspace are expected to be ready in 2015. There's also the question of how effective the service will be in densely-populated urban areas.
  • But if Amazon pulls it off on a large scale, it would give the company's same-day delivery efforts (bolstered by AmazonFresh) a boost as it contends with rivals (such as Google and eBay) who are partnering with major retail chains to enable same-day.
  • As the Kiva Systems acquisition demonstrated, Amazon is a fan of using robotics to improve fulfillment times and efficiency. And as its recent USPS Sunday-delivery deal showed, the company doesn't mind spending heavily to achieve those goals.
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  • Paulo Santos
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    More like AMZN working on making hype. Drone deliveries are about as likely as 5 pound packages raining from the sky because of technical failure. Never mind the technical challenges.

     

    It's impressive that they'd go to such lengths to promote hype, though.
    1 Dec 2013, 08:49 PM Reply Like
  • davidbdc
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    They'll rain from the sky - but not due to technological failure - more like due to my gunshot blasts!!!!!

     

    This type of stuff is ridiculous. We've become so lazy and lethargic about everything that it isn't even funny. Walk to the damn grocery store and get some exercise!!!
    1 Dec 2013, 09:18 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Even a gust of wind can bring these things down, actually.

     

    And besides, with a range of 10 miles from the distribution centers, this reaches nowhere. It's pure hype.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:23 PM Reply Like
  • Mike Ondrovich
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    I chuckled a bit when I read the news as well........... hype.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:56 PM Reply Like
  • Bouchart
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    Within 10 miles and less than 5 pounds? Might as well have people on bicycles deliver the packages.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:11 PM Reply Like
  • machiavelli
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    added to the list of unintended consequences: #42 slingshot sales double
    1 Dec 2013, 10:17 PM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    Bouchart

     

    Where can I get a picture like yours to use in front of my name?
    1 Dec 2013, 10:18 PM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    <<<#42 slingshot sales double>>>

     

    Has everyone lost their sense of humor?

     

    That should have gotten about 10 likes.

     

    I could only give you one.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:26 PM Reply Like
  • canigetanamenooneused
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    What's <<<#42 slingshot sales double>>> supposed to mean??
    1 Dec 2013, 10:45 PM Reply Like
  • 215304
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    The FAA will never approve them and local communities will never approve them. The obvious dangers include landing on people, pets, and cars and kids getting sliced up trying to catch them. No way is this ever going to get off the ground.
    1 Dec 2013, 11:06 PM Reply Like
  • Overanalytical
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    And it'd save about $5 million
    2 Dec 2013, 11:04 AM Reply Like
  • 181
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    NIMBY syndrome... (Not In My BackYard). Do you want unmanned drones flying over your house? However... very long term, it's an inevitable future.

     

    So, people would buy slingshots (and shotguns) just to take potshots at the drones.
    2 Dec 2013, 12:45 PM Reply Like
  • samuel_liu
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    wait until the 1st injury lawsuit from a falling drone ...
    2 Dec 2013, 01:03 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Paulo,

     

    hahahaha. Yep. I can see red necks taking pot shots at the drones as the fly predefined paths over their country houses. I like your picture better--raining 5lb missiles upon craft failures.

     

    But did you hear? "Nokia working on near finished prototype molecular transporter, similar to Star Trek. Now, instead of using Skype, you can simply transport yourself to your family and back. Amazon rumored to be interested in package delivery using the same technology."
    2 Dec 2013, 02:55 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    You know tho, it is the future. Drones are the future. Automation is the future. Cost will either push it or destroy it. Currently, the cheapest way to ship is trains/ trucks dispersing to large distribution centers, and then smaller trucks shipping to homes and businesses. You know, like we already have.

     

    At least their thinking about how to grab an advantage using technology. You know there was time when people thought that drones could never replace human pilots. Those days are numbered.
    2 Dec 2013, 02:59 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    People want to shoot down the drones using slingshots. So slingshot sales go up. You know, call out a drone and slingshot it down, then sell it on the black market. Worth the cost of a slingshot.
    2 Dec 2013, 03:03 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Wait for the millionth injury lawsuit from a truck wreck.
    2 Dec 2013, 03:05 PM Reply Like
  • Philip Marlowe
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    The tacocopter lives!
    1 Dec 2013, 08:55 PM Reply Like
  • Elite Investor
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    $AMZN will fly past $400
    1 Dec 2013, 09:06 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    On the hype from the drones, even though a single gust of wind is enough to create a tragedy for that kind of device?
    1 Dec 2013, 09:11 PM Reply Like
  • kentgolden
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    The 60 minutes episode showed the amazing capabilities of Amazon's delivery infrastructure and led up to this great reveal of the next big thing from Amazon. And it's toy drones delivering no more than a five pound payload! Interesting science experiment but to see Bezos seriously asserting this was a priority for Amazon was a bit disillusioning. And good luck having FAA ever approve this. It takes 20 years to add a runway to existing airports....

     

    But still, Amazon infrastructure and processes are amazing. And AWS really a tremendous operation. But c'mon drones....
    1 Dec 2013, 09:11 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    They'll never fly for hundreds of different reasons. A simple reason would be that this kind of drone cannot withstand a simple gust of wind, and with millions of deliveries these things falling from the sky would kill people.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:25 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    And in the U.S. you'd have tons of people bringing these things down "en route" as well, just to get what they're carrying.

     

    It's simply a ludicrous idea used to hype the stock. Amazing.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:27 PM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    Paulo

     

    You are talking this much too seriously.

     

    This is America. We have shows like Saturday Night Live where they make fun of ideas like this.

     

    The only question here is did Bezos' know this is comedy?
    1 Dec 2013, 10:13 PM Reply Like
  • canigetanamenooneused
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    I am not saying that this idea is possible, but I still would want to know why you think a gust of wind could blow them out of the sky?

     

    anyways, great articles on amzn and nflx. I will probably be shorting both, wish me luck. :)
    1 Dec 2013, 10:48 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    cani, just search the internet about what happens to RC drones (same kind as this one) when hit by wind.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:52 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Paulo,

     

    I think you missed a great opportunity here. How about selling those drones to people as toys, high tech toys, that can carry and release 5lb payloads? Now AMZ will go over 400! (You're own personal bomber drone.)
    2 Dec 2013, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Paulo,

     

    I think the same thing happened to the Wright Brothers also.
    2 Dec 2013, 03:08 PM Reply Like
  • Land of Milk and Honey
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    Ooh, I know. Conveyer belts. All over networking around our cities, just order, and pick it up as it runs by you with some secret code.
    5 Dec 2013, 11:11 PM Reply Like
  • WatchTower Research
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    The fact they are even making this effort to be distributive is encouraging. It is a very misunderstood company
    1 Dec 2013, 09:30 PM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    Kentgolden

     

    You are missing the point on the drones.

     

    The point is not if they make sense to deliver DVDs of Gone with the Wind and The Wizard of Oz. The point is also not whether the FAA will ever approve having thousands and thousand of these drones delivering such important packages. The point your missing was the drones shows Jeff Bezos vision. Vision is a good thing.

     

    I also couldn't tell from the 60 Minutes piece if Jeff Bezos was short or was Charlie Rose tall when they were walking around.

     

    If Bezos was short...who knows he could have something else in common with Napoleon who also wanted to conquer the world. But in Napoleon's case...maybe that idea could have ended just a tad better.

     

    Time will tell.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:32 PM Reply Like
  • kentgolden
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    Although It would be interesting if I ordered an octocopter and it could deliver itself.....
    Bezos was impressive in the interview. Not sure of his height though.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:24 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Rose is like 6'4".
    2 Dec 2013, 03:09 PM Reply Like
  • Bouchart
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    You might as well call them Flying Pinatas. Just grab a stick and start swinging it. Free goodies!
    1 Dec 2013, 09:43 PM Reply Like
  • Bio Bull
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    Keep in mind it's a prototype! It says the technology is still 4-5 years out from being reality. I can appreciate Amazon's continued efforts to change the way transactions happen.

     

    It wasn't that long ago when people thought it would be ridiculous to do your shopping online and yet Amazon has delivered nicely on that front over the years.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:49 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Mail order has been in existence for more than a century.

     

    This drone thing is pure hype. There are hundreds of reasons for this not to go anywhere. For instance, in urban areas there's nowhere to deliver. And in rural areas nearly everybody will live outside the 10 mile range.

     

    Plus a gust of wind takes them down and creates liability. Plus there are wires, there are people intending on shooting them down, there are technical failures, etc, etc. Hundreds of reasons why this is laughable. It's pure hype.
    1 Dec 2013, 09:53 PM Reply Like
  • Bio Bull
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    They once laughed at Edison too :)

     

    The liability thing is a concern to me. You have to figure a few will simply fail now and then, and it seems they could fall on a car or on a person. I'm not too worried about people shooting them down... guns will probably be banned by then anyway lol.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:05 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Many will fail when a gust of wind is enough to bring those things down, Red Bull. The way to make them more resistant to wind is to make them more powerful and heavy - which then increases the risk of having millions of them in the air.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:07 PM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    How does Amazon get the cute little yellow plastic boxes back?
    1 Dec 2013, 10:16 PM Reply Like
  • swrta
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    To say mail drone is pure hype portends that the commentator has had the set of skills and education in order to define definitively as something being " pure hype" ergo not possible. I would ask the commentator what in depth knowledge of drone delivery systems, and where the education came from. Otherwise I would find the commentator subject to the very trait he advises AMZN investors against....."speculation" . If one does not possess actionable intelligence provided by proven scientific data that this system of delivery does not work, nor will it work, then please provide such data. Otherwise I would Reccomend against said commentator's wild speculation. After all, all you have to do is study a little nanotechnology, and before long, you will realize an at play prototype with 5-7 years of R and D, can be interestingly followed, and I would care to speculate the military industrial complex, would well like mini delivery systems for ammunition, supply's, spy craft, law and order, medical supply, mini explosives....and it is fair to look at the "possibility" of larger capacity systems than 5lbs. Those who bet against Bezos, well just ask the 2% short position....l
    1 Dec 2013, 10:18 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Well, I know for a fact that a gust of wind can bring these devices down. And you can get to know this as well, just search for it in the web. There are many "drone" enthusiasts out there flying these things. One even died the other day, killed by his own RC heli.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:27 PM Reply Like
  • steveid
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    you mean like airplanes. God, i hate to rid on those things because they crash every day. good thing they are mad of paper.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:28 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    These are not airplanes. They're light RC-controlled drones which can't stand a gust of wind. An airplane does not have such problem, and lands on very specific places as well.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:30 PM Reply Like
  • Carolina1954
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    A much better idea than drones would be lithium ion battery powered R2D2 type robot "delivery boys." They could easily be outfitted with bullet proof vests to protect them from muggers and to protect the battery pack from ignition if they fall down.

     

    I hope Bezos or Elon Musk is reading this.

     

    C. David Kirby
    1 Dec 2013, 10:34 PM Reply Like
  • davcnslt
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    After reading your remarks about wind 7 or 8 times already, I am beginning to understand the source of the wind you mention.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:51 PM Reply Like
  • canigetanamenooneused
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    you said it yourself: prototype in 5-7 yrs. So, even if Amzn gets it working in 10 years it's not of immediate relevance today. Plus, there is no guarantee that other retailers would not use the same technology.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:52 PM Reply Like
  • canigetanamenooneused
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    What if some one tries to snatch the package from them? How would the bulletproof vest help them?
    1 Dec 2013, 10:55 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    davc, if you are not familiar with these RC toys, search the internet and you'll see the relevance. Those devices cannot withstand gusts of wind. They're simply not heavy or powerful enough. But with the package they're heavy enough to hurt someone.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:55 PM Reply Like
  • Bio Bull
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    Maybe they could have Robocop style machine guns :)
    1 Dec 2013, 11:01 PM Reply Like
  • Redrut
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    I just thought of a way I can turn faeces into gold.....They once laughed at Edison too.
    2 Dec 2013, 11:19 AM Reply Like
  • Tradevestor
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    OMG, this is hilarious as well as serious !
    1 Dec 2013, 09:57 PM Reply Like
  • swrta
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    Ps the people who intend to shoot down such a device, are not by any means a majority, and in R and D this would be why they need 5-7 years......after all we don't shoot that many postmen currently do we?
    1 Dec 2013, 10:18 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    1) They don't need to be a majority;

     

    2) The postmen are not fully-automatic drones.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:19 PM Reply Like
  • Jeb Walport
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    Postmen shoot back, or in some cases, first.
    2 Dec 2013, 01:56 AM Reply Like
  • Jaka11
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    Don't worry, Bezo has figured it all. Drones will have clocking device which will hide it form the wind too.
    2 Dec 2013, 06:10 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    This is about as realistic as AMZN saying it's exploring teletransportation of packages to customers' homes after Bezos saw the latest "Star Trek".
    1 Dec 2013, 10:31 PM Reply Like
  • Carolina1954
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    It's less realistic. 3-D printers actually exist.
    1 Dec 2013, 11:25 PM Reply Like
  • rrose39
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    Beam me up Jeffy.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:40 PM Reply Like
  • User 52649
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    Why would you deliver a book or DVD with a drone when you can instantaneously deliver it electronically? A lot of small items will soon be produced on your 3D printer right in your home. Not really seeing the usefulness of flying drones.
    1 Dec 2013, 10:48 PM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    I think Amazon would really have something if they could some how figure out how to deliver toothpaste electronically.

     

    You put the toothpaste in the "Bezos Internet Toothpaste Transporter" and the molecules are broken down, tube and all, and "viola" a new tube of toothpaste comes out in the "Customers toothpaste molecular assembler".

     

    Then the customer would not have to wait the 30 minutes or live 10 miles from a "fulfillment center".
    2 Dec 2013, 05:58 AM Reply Like
  • StepUp
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    Is there any way to put someone on ignore on SA?
    1 Dec 2013, 11:16 PM Reply Like
  • swrta
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    Quick question Mr Santos, I am remiss to find any statement by you, where you have much of anything to say in favor of AMZN, was this opinion formed at the online bookstore level? Or did it gradually "grow" on you.....kind of like the "stock" grows.....:)
    2 Dec 2013, 12:19 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    swrta, here's something positive:
    * AMZN controls the book business and the ebook business;
    * 3P ought to be profitable;
    * Maybe even AWS is profitable.

     

    But that's besides the point. The whole of it barely has any profits.
    2 Dec 2013, 07:20 AM Reply Like
  • Gary J
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    "Is there any way to put someone on ignore on SA?"

     

    Yes! Post again so I can test it out.
    2 Dec 2013, 08:55 AM Reply Like
  • berniespear
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    Oh Paulo Santos, always the naysayer and a non-dreamer. Thank god there are eccentric dreamers out there or we'd have nothing new.

     

    Love AMZN how they are all about customers and not just about the bottom line, that will always be there if you are a cool-to-your-customer company. He's right.
    1 Dec 2013, 11:47 PM Reply Like
  • Matthew Lewis
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    How many more times can we mention "wind" in this thread? It's years away people...plenty of time to come up with a drone that can withstand the "wind" and makes economic sense.

     

    I honestly don't think its that far fetched. And you know a company like Amazon will be crazy enough to try it even if it loses money. Have some imagination.
    1 Dec 2013, 11:47 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    The wind is physics. You're not going to have something that size and power withstand it. And the wind is just one of hundreds of reasons for that to be a fantasy, too.

     

    It's simply pure hype.
    2 Dec 2013, 07:21 AM Reply Like
  • Peter Larson
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    Translation: Ebay Now!, Groupon Now!, and/or Google already figured out how to do this and Amazon is scared.

     

    Drones and drone pilots are readily available technology. The hard part about drone delivery is getting the real estate and local storage to launch from. There are two ways you can do this:

     

    1. You can buy a million tiny warehouses and build little launching strips next to each one.
    -or-
    2. You can partner with brick-and-mortar retailers and just use their existing parking lots.

     

    Guess which option works better? Also, guess which company has already shot themselves in the foot when it comes to brick-and-mortar partnerships?
    1 Dec 2013, 11:59 PM Reply Like
  • whosez
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    Nah. Bezos already has figured out to use the roofs of the warehouses for the launching pads. That part's easy.
    2 Dec 2013, 12:36 AM Reply Like
  • canigetanamenooneused
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    Why has AMZN shot itself in the foot in respect to B&M partnerships??
    2 Dec 2013, 01:13 AM Reply Like
  • oasisvikes
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    Hey Paulo I have a question...so can the drones withstand a gust of wind?
    2 Dec 2013, 12:45 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Look among the RC community for an answer, you don't need to ask me.
    2 Dec 2013, 07:22 AM Reply Like
  • Akimbe
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    The bloom has come off the rose a little bit with this, dare I say, "jump the shark" moment.

     

    This whole company's valuation is based on a 150 billion dollar assumption that AMZN will one day dominate all and flip that profit switch due mainly to Bezos's genius. And then we see this rare window into what the genius is thinking. And it's neighborhood delivery drone aircraft? WTF
    2 Dec 2013, 12:56 AM Reply Like
  • Johnwoods41
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    Sorry Bezos I am one step ahead of you... For one we already have 3d printers so we can make what we need at a touch of a button.... and surely teleportation is the really future :) , now that really would be visionary!
    2 Dec 2013, 01:39 AM Reply Like
  • Marco Swan
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    Paulo is mistaken, octocopters and other multi-copter drones can handle the wind (I've flown a quad-copter in a breeze). Now, can they handle an 80 mph wind? Probably not, but the notion that a simple breeze will knock them from the sky is a fallacy. They're also not toys but rather complicated pieces of technology.

     

    My major concerns with the idea anchors around liability and airspace utilization. The major technical hurdle will be battery life. They really need a battery revolution to make this thing work. The current lithium polymer technology lacks the necessary energy density to be a real package hauler. That could change, though, and I think that it's otherwise feasible. I'm still not a fan of the idea.
    2 Dec 2013, 01:41 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Marco, the drone can withstand a gust of wind. And then another. And a consistent breeze, etc, etc. The problem is, they are random and it can't withstand them all. So with thousands or millions in the air, the things would be dropping like flies.
    2 Dec 2013, 07:24 AM Reply Like
  • whosez
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    Paulo, you've got the plot for a good B movie there. Go for it.
    4 Dec 2013, 03:28 PM Reply Like
  • Bio Bull
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    Sci-Fi Channel might pick it up!
    5 Dec 2013, 09:20 PM Reply Like
  • Johnwoods41
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    Bezos, can we not use time machines for returns?
    2 Dec 2013, 02:52 AM Reply Like
  • Johnwoods41
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    Bezos, can we not use time machines for returns?
    2 Dec 2013, 02:53 AM Reply Like
  • Renmycat!
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    im loving all of the AMZN bulls appearing!! this means we are at a top.

     

    and also loving all of the newbies with less than 50-100 comments who feel the need to put people down. if you arent going to be professional, please delete you account and stop wasting everyone's time
    2 Dec 2013, 03:22 AM Reply Like
  • Gary J
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    Not a newbie but consider yourself put down. (Best Bezos laugh)
    2 Dec 2013, 07:05 AM Reply Like
  • C.N
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    buy the drone, not the stock.
    2 Dec 2013, 07:02 AM Reply Like
  • june1234
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    Honey some space looking thing just smashed into your car and I think the dog but your new golf clubs are here
    2 Dec 2013, 07:58 AM Reply Like
  • Joe Eifrid
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    Wind...whatever...the main issue is that they will be economically infeasible. Think about how many round way trips one of these could make a day with "refueling", maintenance, etc. as compared to loading up a Fed-ex truck with several hundred packages that can be delivered that day. That, and that they are just not reliable when it comes to weather concerns. AMZN would have to have a more traditional back up in such cases. These units would also have to maneuver around over head telephone, cable lines, as well as not setting the unit down on a pile of dog crap. I think we can forget most multi-family housing for deliveries too.

     

    I also wonder how AMZN expects to get their cute little plastic containers back.

     

    This drone hype is a brilliant PR stunt for AMZN to get it's name out front on cyber Monday. Whoever came up with the idea should be justly compensated.
    2 Dec 2013, 08:08 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    Besides, the idea is not original, Domino's Pizza had a similar video 6 months ago, and there's an Australian company promising the same.

     

    But this won't fly for either of them. We won't have pizzas falling from the sky in the next decade.
    2 Dec 2013, 09:07 AM Reply Like
  • JohnBinTN
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    They could deliver the pizzas on gusts of wind... ;)
    2 Dec 2013, 09:11 AM Reply Like
  • Michael428
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    I think the questions here are greater than the practicality of the drones.

     

    The drones are a silly idea.

     

    But maybe Amazon's customers think the drones are a great idea of a great company. Remember the customer is always right so the "customer can not be silly".

     

    So if that drone PR move leads more customers to buy something with a margin today ( maybe they could fill a box with a second item that has a margin), then the drone idea was brilliant...even if we never have a drone.

     

    Now if Bezos' does believe the drones make sense....then Amazon does have a problem

     

    This has becoming an incredibly expensive history lesson for me.
    2 Dec 2013, 09:30 AM Reply Like
  • PSalerno
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    I think Bezos should see a doctor.
    2 Dec 2013, 09:46 AM Reply Like
  • Land of Milk and Honey
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    @ PSal

     

    Actually what it's been sounding more and more like, it's Bipolar -- Manic Depression with the manic part more active.

     

    That can seem brilliant. Be brilliant. But still be off the edge at times. Can pull lots of people in for enthusiasm, but not always reliable on the end delivery. And sometimes they do deliver and the world moves forward.

     

    Drones aren't sounding like one of those times. And the lack of profits isn't sounding good either.
    5 Dec 2013, 11:22 PM Reply Like
  • samuel_liu
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    http://on.wsj.com/1bdeoqs;mod=
    WSJ Highlights of Amazon ’60 Minutes’ Interview
    2 Dec 2013, 10:14 AM Reply Like
  • tom_t
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    Is today April 1st?
    2 Dec 2013, 10:17 AM Reply Like
  • sfphoto
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    Hmmm... But the FAA would have to install UAV Control Towers all over the place, each of which would be networked together to monitor the flight paths of the Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV) aka drones. Now the problem I think is how the drones would affect the National Security of the U.S. I mean a UAV loaded with a homemade bomb could easily be detonated remotely. In addition, what if the drones collide in the air? Or crashes into the swimming pool of a suburban resident in Beverly Hills? Now imagine driving along the highway and you encounter one of these drones falling down from the sky. And that &^%$*@ drone accidentally hits your windshield. These things could kill people!

     

    Nahh...drones are a bad idea. I prefer Google's self-driving car. Maybe Amazon can partner with Google to come up with a robotic car that can deliver Amazon parcels to your home. Once you hear the siren sound outside your lawn, you know your Amazon order has arrived courtesy of Amazon Prime Robot. Now THAT would a great idea!
    2 Dec 2013, 10:58 AM Reply Like
  • scavok
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    What stops people from doing this with R/C airplanes already? Normal propeller engines can produce ridiculous power:weight. You can even buy miniature jet engines for very large R/C aircraft that can carry tons of weight . Plenty of off the shelf hobbyist stuff exists to put a camera on them to fly further than line of sight as well.
    2 Dec 2013, 11:09 AM Reply Like
  • samuel_liu
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    In Cn, major online sites can deliver a package in under a day. Integration of motorbikes and warehouses and distribution points. Also the high-speed RR opens up the rural to urban consumers.

     

    Maybe that would ease the unemployment situation having couriers racing off delivering packages!
    2 Dec 2013, 11:24 AM Reply Like
  • scavok
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    It's true wind can bring these down if there's a gust while it's near the ground, but it wouldn't really affect it en route. Luckily, if it's a 30 minute delivery service and a 10 mile limit, there are people called meteorologists and things called windows, where weather can be predicted and observed. They would also have to have a camera and a pilot for these things, there's no choice in that if they want to land in residential areas, so obstacles or injuring people while landing would be pretty easily avoided.

     

    Paulo also mentioned a kid that was killed by his RC helicopter. That thing was a far cry from an octocopter, and was an incredibly powerful and heavy aircraft with 2 foot long carbon fiber blades that hit him in the head. If amazon sticks to what's in the video, it would be very hard pressed to be able to kill someone, but you're right in that the tradeoff is it would be a lot more vulnerable to weather.

     

    It's also not hard to put tracking devices on them, so in addition to the cameras used for piloting, it would be really stupid to try to steal or damage them. Not to mention the 10 mile radius will make it easy to quickly chase down any that crash.

     

    I think it's incredibly feasible.
    2 Dec 2013, 11:33 AM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    You're thinking about large scale weather. The actual conditions for most of the time are just like those of the sea - there are waves, there are random wind gusts. Anyone flying these things knows that. They drop from the sky frequently.

     

    The 5 pound octocopters are also more than enough to kill someone if they drop from 200 feet.

     

    Then you have the problem with urban areas not having a place to deliver, and non-urban areas being sparse for just a 10 mile range.
    2 Dec 2013, 11:44 AM Reply Like
  • samuel_liu
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    "kill someone if they drop from 200 feet."

     

    Amazon can help by investing in a courier service as it does in Cn (Warehousing and distribution like Walmart Cn). They would appreciate the tax breaks while helping out the community.

     

    These delivery methods are booming in Cn (expect SF express to expand to the USA to Cn).
    2 Dec 2013, 11:57 AM Reply Like
  • Joe Eifrid
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    Does anyone know how fast these things fly? How long for a round trip 10 miles out?
    2 Dec 2013, 12:20 PM Reply Like
  • Joe Eifrid
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    I understand that FAA requires commercial air traffic to remain over 500 feet above populated areas.
    2 Dec 2013, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    You all miss the real point here. Amazon is going to offer the first ever personal bomber drones to the public. Seriously. Think about that! You wouldn't buy one of those with a 5lb payload? Think of all the people you could get revenge on: a 10 mile radius operated from your home computer, just like a military drone.

     

    Amazon Bomber Drone
    5lbs paint thinner
    exWife's new Jaguar she bought with your now sold off Nokia shares.
    Conclusion: priceless.
    2 Dec 2013, 03:12 PM Reply Like
  • JohnBinTN
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    Nice. I recommend brake fluid over the paint thinner - it'll work better, trust me. ;)
    2 Dec 2013, 04:42 PM Reply Like
  • Gary J
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    Post your location.
    2 Dec 2013, 06:31 PM Reply Like
  • berniespear
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    What a depressing thread.

     

    Glad none, or most of you, aren't in charge of pushing ideas/products etc ahead to the future.
    2 Dec 2013, 05:44 PM Reply Like
  • eenk
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    Why not push good ideas and products ahead to the future, and avoid the bad ones?
    6 Dec 2013, 04:59 AM Reply Like
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