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Machinists union to vote on revised Boeing proposal

  • "I can confirm that a vote will take place," an International Association of Machinists spokesperson quoted by Reuters says.
  • Union workers will apparently get a chance to vote on Boeing's (BA) revised offer after all, an event which was initially ruled out by IAM District Lodge 751's leadership.
  • BA's amended proposal reportedly includes signing bonuses and "some concessions."
  • Last week, several union workers in Washington state marched on union hall demanding a vote on the new deal. "We just want to be heard," a pro-vote worker said.
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  • Abigsoxfan
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    Sanity? Standing up to the big union bosses?
    21 Dec 2013, 06:32 PM Reply Like
  • combie
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    Stand up and vote all you want. You will accept their crap contract and then they will move the work anyways leaving those behind with less and many with no jobs.
    You trust Boeing, then you will get what you deserve.
    What both unions should do is join forces and wild cat strike and shut the damn place down, Boeing leaders can do nothing at that point as the airlines will start complaining about late deliveries.
    The unions have one chance to stop the madness of the Boeing Execs, you let them win and it is all over in a few years even if you accept the crap contract!

     

    And to top it off, about 5 more years and the Charleston workers will unionize and still have your jobs.
    21 Dec 2013, 07:15 PM Reply Like
  • TAS
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    I suspect the Charleston workers will not be as stupid as the loggerheads in Seattle.

     

    The best products are built in the South.
    21 Dec 2013, 08:48 PM Reply Like
  • outofbounds
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    It's all over anyway. The way of the union is dead. Pensions are dead. Employers now have way to many options. Unions only protect the weak and under performers. They better sign what they're offered or the jobs will be gone for good in less than 10 years. There is no winning or losing here. Boeing can and will do what's best for them. With or without the Machinists Union.
    21 Dec 2013, 11:37 PM Reply Like
  • chopchop0
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    " the Charleston workers will unionize "

     

    Good luck with that prediction. Most workers in RTW states have voted against unionization. I don't expect that to be any different
    21 Dec 2013, 11:44 PM Reply Like
  • Abigsoxfan
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    Well then the workers of another fine state will get a great job opportunity!
    22 Dec 2013, 08:42 AM Reply Like
  • brushman5
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    St. Louis sold out their younger workers on the last contract.
    22 Dec 2013, 09:42 AM Reply Like
  • Agbug
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    I agree with your post, in essence, outofbounds. Even most of the machinists union membership probably realizes they wouldn't even have 10 years if the Everett assembly plant wasn't the largest building on the planet, by volume.

     

    As much as I expect an anti organized labor mindset on SA, I couldn't care less about private corporations and their labor relations, until the become quasi-public companies like GM. Market forces will eventually prevail. It is government employee unions that I oppose. It is my opinion that they should either not be permitted to bargain collectively, or their membership not be allowed to vote. As it stands, they vote in the management they will be bargaining with. We see the end result of that scenario in Detroit, IL, etc.
    22 Dec 2013, 12:58 PM Reply Like
  • sarichter
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    I remember when unions actually did something useful... protecting the rights of their members, protecting the safety of the job site, and for less wage disparity. However, unions seem to be more about protecting those inflated salaries of positions that are not deemed as valuable anymore (due to automation, simpler tasks, etc.).

     

    I lived in a RTW state for over 10 years and there are two observations I made (at least in my industry). Things cost less overall (especially those things that don't require sophisticated engineering) and a huge disparity in skilled labor. It was very easy to pick out the well trained workers because they simply earned more. It seems you get what you pay for in a RTW state and not as much elsewhere.
    22 Dec 2013, 04:21 PM Reply Like
  • 1980XLS
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    Unions need to be outlawed.

     

    They are destroying this nation.

     

    If companies banded together to discuss price fixing, it would be defined as price fixing. (anti-trust violations)

     

    But when unions do it, it is "collective Bargaining"

     

    If you like your job, you can keep it.

     

    If you don't, just leave.

     

    Nobody owes you anything.
    21 Dec 2013, 07:55 PM Reply Like
  • Ray Lopez
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    I agree, but I would also tax the 1% more, including the Boeing executives. Unless you know nothing about how corporations work, you'll agree. First, every corporation has waste (it's engineered into their DNA). Second, studies have shown that the 1% don't quit working if you tax them more (Ronald Reagan's anecdotal evidence notwithstanding). They more or less work not because they have to, but because they want to. So a tax on the 1% is free money for the state--and much needed to repair the damage done by Wall Street bank bailouts. So yes, crack down on unions, but also raise taxes on the rich.
    21 Dec 2013, 08:38 PM Reply Like
  • tomlos
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    That's nice, why not just turn over American citizens and let the money fall out of the pockets. Free money for the state? You sound like a Stalinist.
    21 Dec 2013, 08:59 PM Reply Like
  • YONSU
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    How about getting most that are on welfare to work for what the government hands them for free.
    22 Dec 2013, 01:20 PM Reply Like
  • tomlos
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    100% agree but good luck getting generations of people who have been spoon fed everything to get out and work for a living. How's that working in the ghetto for us? We've been fighting poverty since LBJ.
    22 Dec 2013, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • YONSU
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    Giving people money for being lazy, staying home watching tv and playing video games certainly will not help the ghettos no matter what generation you talk about, but does give continuity to doing the same as mom and dad's done,
    Staying poor and free loading off working folks.
    22 Dec 2013, 08:55 PM Reply Like
  • TAS
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    The 1% and union Big Wigs may be one and the same :)
    21 Dec 2013, 08:49 PM Reply Like
  • jonashad
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    All that rain in Seattle must have something in it - Boeing employees make more than any other employee group in the state, they get a bonus for agreeing to a contract that is enough to keep a family of four in a dry home for a year, but still they moan about how ill-treated they are, the poor little dears.

     

    I hope Boeing seizes the opportunity to establish another production line that will provide customers with a more reliable flow of airplanes, in a state that doesn't require every worker to pay obeisance to big union bosses, where workers don't think its cute to go on strike every three or four years to take an extra paid vacation and infuriate customers.
    22 Dec 2013, 12:16 AM Reply Like
  • fafatooey
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    Puget Sound Boeing workers are the most spoiled, overpaid, pompus, self-entitled bunch of fools. Ever. Boeing more than understands this, and they have been making a systematic and well planned exit from the region for 15 years. It will be all over soon.
    22 Dec 2013, 01:35 AM Reply Like
  • loufelice
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    With the incentives Charleston is offering and the fact that most of the parts for Boeing planes are made east of the Mississippi River, I see it as a win-win. Boeing has been held hostage by the machinist union far too long.
    22 Dec 2013, 10:59 AM Reply Like
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