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Kerry: No rush to decide fate of Keystone XL pipeline

  • Sec. of State John Kerry meets with Canadian Foreign Minister John Baird and says the U.S. won’t be pushed into making a decision on the Keystone XL (TRP)  pipeline, despite pressure from Canada and other supporters for quick action.
  • Kerry's comments come a day after Baird expressed increasing Canadian impatience with the foot-dragging over the long-delayed decision.
  • Canada believes the pipeline project ultimately will be approved, Prime Minister Harper's chief spokesman reiterates, adding Baird's remarks didn't reflect a changed view by the government but that it would like a decision "sooner rather than later."
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  • mfoster7@cogeco.ca
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    how many years has this floated along. Now do we wait for an overall US review of infrastructure.

     

    Won't be pushed?

     

    Won't play politics, won't dither , won't dork around ?
    17 Jan 2014, 04:54 PM Reply Like
  • Arnold Layne
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    kerry will dither until he gets a Nobel prize
    17 Jan 2014, 06:38 PM Reply Like
  • Jake2992
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    Now conservatives want us to bow to the Canadians. We are bowing to the Canadians for 50 full time jobs. Unreal.
    17 Jan 2014, 09:10 PM Reply Like
  • Yokyok
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    Those huffy Canadians simply need to build a pipeline to their own west or east coast.
    17 Jan 2014, 05:01 PM Reply Like
  • mfoster7@cogeco.ca
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    a lot of the projects are developed by US majors.

     

    Now the longer the delay the better I expect.

     

    I agree totally that Canada should be building east.
    Canada has certainly been dorking around as well.
    17 Jan 2014, 05:34 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    They are - Building a line west as well as east as well as substantially increasing rail transport as well as increasing capacity on existing lines. I suspect that Obama keeps getting the answer he does not want to here so he keeps punting. A couple of years and he will be history and then we will hopefully get some one who can make decisions.
    17 Jan 2014, 06:45 PM Reply Like
  • Jake2992
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    Marpy,

     

    Did you read the stories about undrinkable water in West Virginia? Not in my back yard.
    17 Jan 2014, 09:13 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    Ya - I will bet it is just like the story on the burning water taps - They had the same problem 100 years ago before any oil and gas development. Nothing is perfect but the risks are a lot smaller than the the enviro crowd that like to use partial or miss information. Even with the oil sands - The natives had been using tar ball retrieved from the Athabasca river to water proof their canoes for 100's of years and yet the enviro crowd wants to blame the producers for water pollution. Hello - that oil has been sittings on the surface for thousands if not millions of years and the river has had related issues for that long as well. You need to get your facts straight and never mind about fear mongering.
    18 Jan 2014, 08:22 AM Reply Like
  • SoldHigh
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    Quite an ignorant stretch to compare the pipeline with a small WV pvt company who spilled from their tank directly into the river right next to it. Der dee der der
    18 Jan 2014, 11:13 AM Reply Like
  • lorneb
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    Actually it is the ill informed who think they are environmentalists and are supported to a large extent by people including Al Gore and some of the Hollywood crowd who are the ones "dorking around". The rest of us including a lot of politicians want pipes to the east and west coasts pushed ahead.
    18 Jan 2014, 07:13 PM Reply Like
  • SoldHigh
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    What's amazing is that the US has approached energy independence in spite of lying, corrupt Obama and his human-hating Greenie-terrorists, who have stonewalled energy producers every step of the way.
    17 Jan 2014, 05:12 PM Reply Like
  • Arnold Layne
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    Yes, "in spite of" the criminal enterprise in the White House. Fracking has done more than all the greenie crap put together.
    17 Jan 2014, 06:36 PM Reply Like
  • Jake2992
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    How has Obama "stonewalled energy producers at every step"? . We are exporting more oil that we are importing for the first time in 4 decades. We are on track to be energy independent by 2020. We are even going to continue to drill in the Gulf despite the devastation caused by BP releasing Corexit and Crude Oil into our food and water supply.
    17 Jan 2014, 09:19 PM Reply Like
  • Bret Jensen
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    And absolutely none has to do with this administration. NG production on Federal lands over the past five years are down 1/3, oil production is flat, permitting times have doubled, ......while we have thrown tens of billions at failed alt energy enterprises (Solnydra, A123, Fisker,, etc...). All the increase production has come from private acreage with private money. Total fossil fuel production on Federal lands is at a decade low. Oil production is up despite the administration, not because of it. Keystone is typical of this administration. Five years to delay a decision that would create 10K - 20K and wouldn't cost the taxpayers a dime meanwhile pissing off our largest trading partner. No wonder we are in by far the weakest post war recovery on record.
    18 Jan 2014, 05:24 AM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    The reality is that OPEC can make most tight oil in the US uneconomic by lowering the price by $20 per barrel. Tight oil is among the most expensive oil to produce and wells have higher depletion rates than conventional oil. North American energy independence by 2020 or even 2030 is very much pie in the sky without the Huge reserves in Canada's oil sands and even then it will be a stretch. American energy independence just will not happen unless there is a huge shift form oil to natural gas. JMO
    18 Jan 2014, 08:29 AM Reply Like
  • DrP79
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    Even the Saudis are aware of our potential to produce energy through fracking and just using coal and are profoundly scared that we will.

     

    It is true that middle east oil is cheaper to produce, but the world price is not based on entirely cost of production: - security, transportation, cartel prices. There is a reason why oil is quoted in two prices - West Texas and world prices.
    18 Jan 2014, 11:05 AM Reply Like
  • Jake2992
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    Bret, you suffer from stage 5 Obama Derangement Syndrome. Anything this President does you are against, even if it is something you really want. How sad. Keystone would most likely cost the taxpayers millions once all the environmental damage is priced in. That is common sense to people who have to live near one of these eye sores. Also where do you get 20K jobs? Whoever told you that is lying.
    19 Jan 2014, 03:34 PM Reply Like
  • justaminute
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    Well, this president has cost American taxpayers and their children $7 trillion so far. "That's irresponsible, that's unpatriotic."
    19 Jan 2014, 08:57 PM Reply Like
  • bobby44
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    Eyesore? The pipe is buried 4 feet UNDERGROUND!

     

    ADVICE -- If you want to say NO just say no. Do not try to pretend there are issues when you seem to have no idea about the project.

     

    Jake - that advice is for the president - not you. But you may benefit as well.
    26 Jan 2014, 03:55 PM Reply Like
  • DrP79
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    There is NO rush by the administration who would prefer the issue to just go away.

     

    Yet that view is NOT shared by the Canadians who are making plans to avoid the US market and ship it west. This helps KMI. Yet this is terrible policy for the US - Canadian foreign relations and helps other countries instead.

     

    This administration has got the idea that it is good to help our enemies and hurt our friends instead of the other way around. Of course, they confuse what is good for THEMSELVES and their political friends as opposed to what is good for the US.
    17 Jan 2014, 05:13 PM Reply Like
  • smart_investoor
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    Canadian patience? No rather Corporate Canada Patience. These people don't represent Canadians anymore
    17 Jan 2014, 05:23 PM Reply Like
  • Arnold Layne
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    what?
    17 Jan 2014, 06:37 PM Reply Like
  • smart_investoor
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    Nowadays Canadian government is run by Corporations.
    17 Jan 2014, 06:49 PM Reply Like
  • BugleBoy
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    "Nowadays Canadian government is run by Corporations."

     

    ... and the US government is run by?

     

    Just curious. No axe to grind here.
    Happy trading, all.
    17 Jan 2014, 08:54 PM Reply Like
  • Uncle Pie
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    After dithering for SIX YEARS...no point in rushing into any hasty decisions!
    17 Jan 2014, 07:09 PM Reply Like
  • bobby44
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    Obama administration has systematically dismantled the good will that existed with Canada. 1-Insult the Canadian effort in Afghanistan and the loss of Canadian lives.
    2- Override NAFTA by refusing to allow infrastructure works to go to American based Canadian companies.
    3- Pee around with the energy related projects involving Canada.
    4- Allow tax deductions to persons who contribute to campaigns in Canada that target specific companies or projects. (By name)

     

    Yes - you bet it is about time Canadians got a little "huffy". Soon they will not have to worry about how the USA treats it's friends - because they will not be friends. They can put oil on tankers in the great lakes for direct export markets. The lines exist and the head end terminal is under construction. Just need another terminal! It is about time to address American interests and think of North America as a whole.

     

    SHORT SIGHTED CRAP!
    17 Jan 2014, 07:22 PM Reply Like
  • Jake2992
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    The jobs associated with this bridge to no where are minimal. We would most likely see crime go up in areas close to the pipeline. 3x more jobs are created per dollar spent on investments in renewable energy than per dollar invested in fossil fuels. Not to mention, no one likes to live in an area where their drinking water is always at risk of becoming undrinkable.
    17 Jan 2014, 08:46 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    What are you smoking? Green energy is nothing more than a subsidy game where the tax payer or rate payer has to pay most of the costs to support a non competitive industry and most of the manufacturing jobs go to China or elsewhere.
    18 Jan 2014, 08:34 AM Reply Like
  • Jake2992
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    Marpy, you are clueless. I work in the industry and it is much more labor intensive than the oil industry. Thus, more jobs. Not to mention the nearly 2 trillion dollars we have wasted on oil companies in tax subsidies, outright giveaways, and military support. Renewables have only need a fraction of that for basic research and grants. You must watch Fox News and you think every solar project is "solyndra".
    19 Jan 2014, 03:39 PM Reply Like
  • Blue22
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    TRP and Enbridge have built most of the main oil and gas pipelines in the U.S. and Canada. Without these Canadian companies we would freeze to death in the dark! Surprised? Before you contributors run your mouths you should find out what our neighbors do for us!

     

    TRP already has several BILLION invested in the much debated pipeline which they will lose if our snotty President can't find his brain somewhere. The same or worse situation is holding up a critical main pipelines connecting Alberta oil and gas to Canada's East coast. With over 1/2 of the coal companies shut down as Obama promised there is no alternative to at least a new gas line.

     

    In my opinion the Canadians should file suit against our administration for lost investment capital and damages for somewhere around twenty billion to start. They should also consider cutting off all Canadian pipelines until bills are paid covering the past 5 years of the TRP contract period!

     

    I would think that 4 train wrecks recently would make the Great Man realize how dangerous it is to move oil by rail. That additional $15.00 per barrel wipes out any profits our refineries make on the Brent crude spread. That will have to come out of our pockets and will slow down our oil/gas recovery. A massive trade war with Canada will destroy our pitiful credit and trade relations, not only with Canada but will all of the British Isles, the French and probably most of Europe!

     

    With 35 countries pissed off at having their communication systems tapped for who knows what purpose, it won't take much to set off an international trade war. If that happens, we had all better brush up on our Chinese and Russian and prepare for the dollar to be cut in half and lose its leadership status.
    18 Jan 2014, 06:22 AM Reply Like
  • Ruffdog
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    "...Those huffy Canadians simply need to build a pipeline to their own west or east coast.,,"

     

    Smart American companies are doing it for them. KMP is increasing the capacity of the TransMountain pipeline from 300,000 to almost 900,000 BPD. TM carries Canadian tar sand crude and I do not know for the rest of history, has oversubscribed in December 2013. So why does Canada need to bow down to Obama? If KMP can build a 900,000 bpd pipeline to the west coast in Canada why can’t TRP? If I were Canada, I would put an export tax on all crude of $.50 per barrel to be used for Canadian infrastructure projects.
    18 Jan 2014, 10:53 AM Reply Like
  • lorneb
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    Ruffdog, you should check the facts. KMP did one smart thing which was to learn from Enbridges mistakes when it came to dealing with the Natives. The TransMountain pipeline expansion has the benefit of being able, in the main, to use the existing right of way which was established before the current wave of environmental posturing began. KMI still had to meet current environmental reviews but because of the foregoing was much simpler. That pipeline is the only major one in Canada I know of which is owned by a US company. They by the way, did not build the original line. It was built in the mid 50's long before KMI bought it
    No pipeline in Canada has ever suffered the excessive and to an extent, unreasonable scrutiny that Enbridges Northern Gateway line has been subjected to. Much of this scrutiny is valid but a great deal of it has been caused by a bunch of misinformed people, many of whom are foreigners who live in other countries including the USA. If people would base their opinions on facts instead of assumptions and misinformation we would all be better served.
    Many objectors believe stopping pipelines will stop the oil sands from being developed. They show aerial photos of what they want everyone to believe is a true representation of the oil sands mining area. Those photo's are always taken from such an angle and location to make it look as bad as possible. They are not a true representation of the mine sites because they never show or even admit to the amount of pristine reclamation that takes place after mining is completed in an area. It's too bad everyone couldn't see it with their own eyes.
    The Gov't loves exporting oil because it brings in huge revenue so adding another .50 cents a barrel as you suggest is unlikely to happen. Besides it is private corporations that build pipelines not Gov't.. Gov'ts., corporations and people all reap tremendous benefits when projects including pipelines are built by industry. Until such time as pipelines are built the oil sands crude is will continue getting to market one way or another. Unfortuneatly those other ways have recently proven to be more dangerous than pipelines.
    As for the number of jobs created both directly and indirectly during the construction phase of a major pipeline it is in the thousands and ongoing operation and maintenance of that line certainly creates employment for a lot more than 50 as seems to be suggested by Jake2992. Does anyone really think pipeline companies lie about this or that they are completely clueless? I doubt they are as stupid as some would like us to believe.
    20 Jan 2014, 01:45 AM Reply Like
  • nzc10
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    Blue22, I agree with your assesment.
    19 Jan 2014, 02:49 AM Reply Like
  • Tort527
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    Won't be pushed? They must be tricking us!
    You can get oil to Cushing by trucking it there,
    sending it by rail and probably fly it there but not
    by the safest and most economical way.
    It's no wonder this administration can't get
    anything done. Stupid is Stupid does.
    19 Jan 2014, 10:47 AM Reply Like
  • 1434361
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    Seems to be a train derailment almost every week with cars that carry oil !!!!!!!!!
    20 Jan 2014, 10:38 AM Reply Like
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