- "The default rate is non-existent," he says, agreeing that fundamentals in high-yield look good. "Instead of a default cycle, we've had a refinance cycle." The issue, however, is valuation. At the end of 2013, the 30-year Treasury yielded about 4%, while BB corporates "unbelievably" yielded just 4.5% - a "remarkably low incremental yield."
- His feelings about overvaluation extend to the investment grade corporate market (LQD) as well.
- Most curious to Gundlach is how universally the long bond is hated at 4%, while junk yielding 4.5% gets so much love.
- Besides Treasurys, Gundlach sees value in emerging market bonds. The risk is in the currency, but this can be eliminated by buying dollar-denominated paper.
- High yield ETFs: HYG, JNK, HYLD, HYS, SJNK, PHB, BSJF, SJB, BSJE, HYHG, BSJG, BSJI, ANGL, BSJH, HYLS, XOVR, THHY, UJB, QLTC, SHYG, BSJK, HYZD, BSJJ, HYND
- Investment grade ETFs: LQD, VCSH, VCIT, CORP, VCLT, CSJ, CIU, CFT, SCPB, LWC, CLY, ITR, QLTA, IGHG, PFIG, SLQD, IGS, CBND, IGU, QLTB
- EM bond ETFs: EMB, PCY, ELD, EMLC, EMCB, VWOB, EMCD, ILB, HYEM, EMHY, LEMB, ITIP, EMAG, EBND, GTIP, PFEM, EMSH, SEMF, IEMF, LEMF