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Herbalife Ltd. beats by $0.03, beats on revenue

  • Herbalife Ltd. (HLF): Q4 EPS of $1.28 beats by $0.03.
  • Revenue of $1.27B (+19.8% Y/Y) beats by $20M.
  • Shares +1.1%.
  • Press Release
Comments (22)
  • Jeffjacobjames
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    BOOYAH! Ackman is toast! Increased dividend! Squeeze has begun! BOOYAH!
    18 Feb, 04:27 PM Reply Like
  • Jeffjacobjames
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    My mistake - no increased dividend. But BOOYAH anyway!
    18 Feb, 05:22 PM Reply Like
  • Quoth the Raven
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    Calm down, Jeff. They announced this already weeks ago.
    18 Feb, 04:30 PM Reply Like
  • Yteeld
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    Stewie/QTR/Herbert stick with their thesis .........................

     

    Who said cut your losses................... not these guys
    18 Feb, 04:31 PM Reply Like
  • herbkardon@comcast.net
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    its time ackman wakes up and takes his lost. he is toast. 2014 eps might be 6.00. 12x 2014 eps makes it a buy.
    18 Feb, 04:31 PM Reply Like
  • fuzzymc
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    CNBC Herb still trying to kill this stock, hang in there one day you may get something right!
    18 Feb, 04:35 PM Reply Like
  • utah72
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    When this one blows up, its gonna blow up big. Ought to be quite a show.
    18 Feb, 04:39 PM Reply Like
  • Jeffjacobjames
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    QTR- How did you know HLF increased the dividend "weeks ago"? Why didn't you tell us back then? Increasing the dividend is always very bullish!

     

    Earlier today, you said "the numbers don't matter". The numbers DO matter to all those buying after hours. YOU lose...again!
    18 Feb, 04:40 PM Reply Like
  • UESnick
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    Herb Greenberg CNBC never has anything positive to say and cant even argue his point. Happily CNBC booted him from being on everyday. His divisive attitude is not what anyone wants to listen to. Im sure he complains everyday at his local deli. On a positive note the numbers for $HLF look very good.
    18 Feb, 04:45 PM Reply Like
  • Andrei Volgin
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    Herbalife proves that cheating other people is a profitable business.
    18 Feb, 04:47 PM Reply Like
  • knjimd
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    and you Andrei Volgin prove you are a sore loser -- PLEASE post proof how HLF is cheating people? Why do you make these stupid comments when their are no facts to back them up?

     

    another excellent quarter by HLF -- sorry to break it to all you ackman tools out there - "NUMBERS DO MATTER!" Scoreboard - game over
    18 Feb, 05:01 PM Reply Like
  • powershake
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    Andrei,
    Herbalife is poised to capture the weight loss and nutrition market w/ 34 yrs of experience! Fast food like YUM and MCD are what's causing obesity in many countries. Education and proper nutrition are what's needed!

     

    BTW, you haven't up-dated your profile picture as you said you would do, to show us you have lost weight...
    18 Feb, 05:28 PM Reply Like
  • utah72
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    Your local farmer captured the weight loss and nutrition market some 2000 years ago. Processed foods of the like produced by HLF are puffery and marketing (sketchy distribution aside).
    18 Feb, 05:33 PM Reply Like
  • powershake
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    utah72,

     

    Wrong pal - don't mix in HLF with the processed junk food giants!
    HLF is a nutritional giant with advanced quality nutrition at junk food prices! The results speak for themselves! I eat organic whenever possible, but billions of people can not, because of price & time concerns
    18 Feb, 11:17 PM Reply Like
  • utah72
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    The HLF pumpers with their talking points crack me up. Nonetheless, to each his own - I'm staying as far away from HLF and its products as I can get. Good luck sir.
    19 Feb, 07:34 AM Reply Like
  • ben_nimaj
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    Andrei, how much are you down today?

     

    BTW, who is being cheated? Extremely low risk, low cost signup fee with a 3 month 100% money back right of rescission. Customers have a 100% money back satisfaction guarantee. There is a 100% money back, including shipping, inventory buy back. There is zero incentive to sign up anyone who fails due to claw back. Seriously, how is that cheating anyone?
    18 Feb, 04:57 PM Reply Like
  • Gettin'Long
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    Obviously the business model is disingenuous, misleading, whatever you want to call it.
    My only question: Is it illegal to create a business where your own workforce is the primary customer? If not, then HLF is underpriced. If so, then it will get cracked down. So long as they can legally cover themselves, being misleading doesn't matter.
    18 Feb, 04:57 PM Reply Like
  • powershake
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    Gettin'Long,

     

    Answer to your question:
    Is "too low" a proportion of sales to non-distributor end-users a sure sign of a pyramid scheme?

     

    http://bit.ly/M813up
    18 Feb, 11:23 PM Reply Like
  • John Grandits
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    Regardless of whether the business model is misleading or disingenuous there's a wide latitude of acceptance within the laws that apply to direct sales models. What may appear to be dishonest or misleading to one may look like an opportunity to others, be it financial gain or otherwise. I've recently been exposed to the direct sales and agree that most distributors will lose money, but there are a small % who will earn a positive return and some hundreds of times their original investment. At this pt it seems almost futile to continue debating the legality of these organizations as some have been in business even longer than HLF.
    18 Feb, 06:01 PM Reply Like
  • danielpinov
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    As despicable as Herbalife's business practices are, it continues to be an incredibly profitable company. It is clear that Herbalife's business model is inmmoral and focused on minorities. But illegal? I don't know if Ackman will ever be proven right. I sure hope he is.
    18 Feb, 09:58 PM Reply Like
  • knjimd
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    Daniel -- the model is legal and has proven itself over many years. They have very credible management and an incredible earnings track record. You want to talk immoral??? talk about ackman -- he has been exposed and is losing big on this one just like he did with JCP and Target. Over 80% of the money market managers underperform the S&P and he proves this point in spades.
    How is it immoral? You can return products for a refund? Many minorities love the company - just ask them! They make money and many of the users are on a healthy alternative. If you listen to the bs that ackman drones are spewing and making comments based on these b/s reports - you are not that smart -- due your DD before you start posting nonsense
    18 Feb, 11:27 PM Reply Like
  • powershake
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    danielpinov,

     

    Ackman will lose every dollar because his analysis was wrong.
    Ichan and Stiritz are doing the buyback - then the final blow, the
    L B O

     

    What HLF thinks about pyramid schemes:
    http://bit.ly/M813up
    18 Feb, 11:29 PM Reply Like
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