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Microsoft ups Windows mobile reach; Nokia launches Android phones

  • Microsoft (MSFT) is expanding the number of manufacturers of Windows phones by enabling the latter to use cheaper components with the software.
  • Companies that Microsoft is working with include Lenovo (LNVGF), Hon Hai Precision Industry (HNHAY), LG Electronics (LGEAF), ZTE and India's Xola and Karbonn.
  • Microsoft provided details at the Mobile World Congress.
  • Meanwhile, Nokia (NOK) is launching three Android phones even though the company's handset unit is being sold to Microsoft and the latter is looking to facilitate cheaper Windows phones. The Nokia X will cost €89 and will integrate Microsoft services such as Bing and Skype. The home screen will use tiles, as in Windows phones. Meanwhile, the Nokia X+ is priced at €99 and the XL, with a bigger screen, at €109.
  • See Nokia to launch Android phones in China.
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  • Andreas Hopf
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    That was the oddest Nokia MWC presentation ever. Everyone is confused as to the plans of the company.
    24 Feb, 04:42 AM Reply Like
  • css1971
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    So Nokia/Microsoft are going to be pushing Android... WTF? and LOL!

     

    Oh man. Clearly the strategy now is to sow confusion far and wide. Normally you'd try to do that with your enemies, not investors and customers. This would have made perfect sense 3 years ago as a hedged strategy... (If they had also dumped Asha at the same time).

     

    Are any of the board members still in place, I should check. And Elop... Got his bonus?

     

    And the Nokia/Nokia side? I'm starting to get the impression that allowing Microsoft to continue to use the Nokia brand may not have been the best strategy with Elop still in place there.

     

    I've already made a bundle on NOK... But, WTF?
    24 Feb, 08:59 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    You can see the market share of Windows Phone (nearly 100% Nokia devices) since the 3rd September 2013. It is stalling, for obvious reasons.
    24 Feb, 09:52 AM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    "Microsoft (MSFT) is expanding the number of manufacturers of Windows phones by enabling the latter to use cheaper components with the software."

     

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    I see a Zune boat anchor being made. (read: cheaper components). Once again MS demonstrates it really does know how to blow up and anvil.
    24 Feb, 02:15 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Aah
    Yet it is the best phone OS out there. MS just can't pull it off, duplicating pictures and contact entries anytime someone turns on "OneDrive" and just all around flopping the cloud stuff. They should call it "DupliDriveConfusion."
    24 Feb, 02:16 PM Reply Like
  • Mike K D
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    @ Andreas

     

    Maybe I don't remember correctly, but I thought that Noka was not allowed to make phones for two years following the sale of its phone division to Microsoft. Since the transition has not completed I guess Nokia can still launch the Android phone, but once Microsoft takes over will it take over the new Android phones as well? Is Nokia just trying to capitalise while it still can on the money it spent on developing the Android phones? Or maybe Microsoft will keep producing those phones since they are not using Google Play, Google Map and Google Search (those will be replaced by Nokia Store, Nokia Map and Bing, plus the addition of pre-installed Skype), therefore hitting Google's business model at its core since it created Android for the main purpose of expanding the user base for Google-based services that can be leveraged for advertising purposes. Is it possible that Microsoft is playing the same old card of first making its products portable on other platforms, then once those are wide-spread Microsoft will "lure" the users to switch to Windows and basically run the other platforms into the ground?
    24 Feb, 05:40 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    I don't care much. I have some Nokia shares left gathering dust at the attic. From what I hear, everyone is just confused about what Nokia is doing right now and what it will do in the future. Which is one of the key reasons why since 3rd September 2013 devices have been discontinued or discounted in many markets or were not even taken on board.

     

    As far as devices are concerned, it is equally confusing for the consumer, not knowing which device range will prevail with which OS and for how long. When the Lumia 920 and WP8 were launched on September 5th 2012, at least the message was clear, unified and decipherable. Now, we have a marketing chaos and many at MWC are shaking their head to this non-strategy. Nokia with WP, with Asha OS, with near-Android, but not Nokia and rather Microsoft, soon without Nokia, but with the Lumia name - come on, this is idiotic from the carrier and consumer point of view.

     

    If Nokia can ever pull a determined CEO and strategy out of its hat, she or he can steer the entire business in calmer waters.
    24 Feb, 07:04 AM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Mike,
    At this point I don't think anyone knows what MS and Nokia re doing in the phone area. They are both doing some exotic manipulations, that's for sure.
    24 Feb, 02:23 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    AH
    Yes, hopefully away from the rudderless Microsoft Albatross. Microsloth doesn't seem to get one thing: Make the best Phone OS (navigable, easy to use, absolute privacy options enabled, with a consistently accurate and working cloud service) = sell zillions of phones. No. It must be confusing and with gaping holes in privacy--and closed off. Too bad MS. You just bought 7 billion worth of target practice for your ignorant hardware intelligence.
    -Calling MS. You don't need Android or whatever. You need Windows Phone OS that is BETTER than the the rest. Too bad you cannot understand that.
    24 Feb, 02:27 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Surely, flying for months CEO-less through the mist, has not helped much to comfort most passengers.
    24 Feb, 02:36 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    If this goes down, its bad news for all the crappy low end Android makers, MSFT and NOK service will make the difference…
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    Nokia Lumia 525 Vs Nokia X Android Family Pricing And Spec Comparison: http://bit.ly/1k4MNSy
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    The Nokia X will be available to buy immediately in Asia Pacific, Europe, India, Latin America, the Middle-East and Africa.
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    The Nokia X+ and XL are expected to be available from Q2 2014. The Nokia X, X+ and XL – are priced between the existing Asha and Lumia lines, at €89, €99 and €109 respectively.
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    Nokia is also enabling users to sideload Android apps using SD card. Nokia Store will enable users to buy/try apps, also has in-app payments, operator billing and more.
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    As you expect, this device also comes with all Nokia exclusive apps like HERE Drive with offline maps, MixRadio and more. Also, all Microsoft services including Skype, OneDrive and more. Microsoft will also be offering some great service offers like free 10GB of OneDrive storage and free 1 month of Skype calls.
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    At Mobile World Congress Stephen Elop said Windows Phone had more than 10% market share in Italy, Belgium, Poland, Finland, UK, and that the Nokia Lumia 520 Number 1 smartphone in the world in 75-100 Euro price range
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    Bryan Biniak, Vice President and GM of Developer Relations, Nokia Corporation added,
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    “Today marks an exciting moment for Nokia. By bringing BBM to the Windows Phone and Nokia X communities, our customers will be able to experience this popular global messaging app.”
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    BBM will be available as a free download for Windows Phone users this summer.
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    How Microsoft will fight Android in low-end market
    http://bit.ly/1fmWedR
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    BARCELONA: Microsoft is pushing to reach a far wider audience for smartphones running its Windows Phone software by turning to cheaper chipsets and easing restrictions on how phone makers use its software to encourage them to drive down costs.
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    Nick Parker, Microsoft's senior vice president for handset makers, said the changes have attracted a range of new handset makers to build Windows Phone handsets, including LG, Xolo, Karbonn, ZTE, Foxconn, Lenovo, Gionee and Longcheer.
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    "We are open for business on Windows Phone to anyone who wants to build a Windows phone," Parker said at the Mobile World Congress trade fair on Sunday.
    24 Feb, 05:49 AM Reply Like
  • mKiwi
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    Well at least they are doing something: MSFT and Nokia. They were late to the tablet market and slow to the mobile market but finally I'm sure MSFT share holders are happy seeing some action on the mobile front.

     

    At the time of the takeover announcement there was a flurry of new devices. But there seemed to be a lull around Christmas time. We knew windows phone was gaining market share globally, beating AAPL in a number of markets.

     

    I think these devices will sell like hot cakes. It's what all the die hard Nokian's wanted. I would expect them to sell as well as Nokia 520 being entry level devices yet still well crafted as people expect of Nokia phones.
    24 Feb, 07:37 AM Reply Like
  • BTR2RSK
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    When I received Nokia's email this morning my reaction was WTF?! I imagine others will react similarly. This is like a drunk's promise to not make smartphones, a very desperate attempt that results in sterile phones that offer zero advantage over pure Android, phones that will be ignored and quickly become extinct, like the last remaining rebel group's attempt at overthrowing the new government. They have a snowball's chance in hell.
    24 Feb, 07:37 AM Reply Like
  • BTR2RSK
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    HOWEVER if this works I have to say that it is a brilliant plan. MSFT admits they have lost the OS battle, and focus on apps and services. Take the enemy's OS for free and remove anything that makes the enemy any money and use it for its own profit. We'll see. These phones have a shelf life of like 6 months.
    24 Feb, 09:50 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Remember 5th September 2012: "Everybody loves a comeback". And then traitor Elop acted against his employer. The zombie show today was just disgusting. Like stalling Windows Phone, this contraption X won't stand a chance. 90% of Android users want Google's "free" services on their devices. Go figure.
    24 Feb, 09:57 AM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    The Windows Phone OS could have been brilliant. MS closed it off so badly they shot themselves in the face with it.
    24 Feb, 02:31 PM Reply Like
  • BTR2RSK
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    Don't know where you got that stat but tell it to the millions of Kindle Fire users and other gazillion Android-forked tablets. Not having Google Play doesn't prevent users from getting Google apps.
    24 Feb, 06:03 PM Reply Like
  • jammerculture
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    Nokia spent money developing an android phone. They are going to attempt to get some of them back. These phones are more WP then android anyway.

     

    nothing to see here folks.
    24 Feb, 08:53 AM Reply Like
  • beyond dreams
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    I am personally positive on the Nokia Android. I believe this move has Microsofts blessing and possibly encouragement. I think msft is being aggressive on the mobile front and I applaud them for taking on google where it hurts, their platform strategy. By using the msft cloud, skype and here maps google is put in a position of minimizing any financial gains from Nokia android sales. I like msft being aggressive. Additionally, by producing a low priced android msft and nok are taking on the low priced producers of handsets.

     

    Long msft and nok
    24 Feb, 09:06 AM Reply Like
  • Peter89
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    Once again, NOK is late to the party. People including myself have been pushing for this when Nok was trading around $4. I was called an uninformed idiot for bringing this subject up by the investment gurus in here. I wish NOK would have done it sooner so I'm not stuck with Windows OS.
    24 Feb, 09:12 AM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Well, going w/ WP made Nokia $7.5B and allows then to exit this game. If Nokia had gone Android, we never know if it had worked or not. And what would the exit plan have been if it did not? With WP the MSFT's desperation was always there to save WP ~= Nokia...

     

    As an investor who averaged way below $4, I am happy with the current outcome (assuming D&S sale, and Nokia not selling any feature or smartphones anymore). Selling smartphones is more and more a low margin commodity game...
    24 Feb, 09:25 AM Reply Like
  • Peter89
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    MSFT paid NOk to use their OS that's why Nok went with MSFT. In addition, Elop came from MSFT to be the captain of Nok. The decision was easy after Nok decided not to support Symbian. Would Nok still partner with MSFT had Elop not being the captain? What if Samsung chose MSFT instead of Android? But that's a chapter of its own.

     

    Like yourself, I got in below $4, around $2.55. There are plethora of players in the smartphone field but not enough carriers. Now if GOOGLE would be a player in the wireless carrier field, the game will change again. I'm in San Diego and waiting for Google to roll out their fiber network here.
    24 Feb, 12:12 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    As always.. the voice of reason :-)

     

    With you a 100% sepp
    24 Feb, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    Looks like MS paid Nokia to kill Nokia phones, so MS could make it's own crappy phones with Android. I know that isn't the case, but let the rumors fly.
    24 Feb, 02:33 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Yep MSFT will likely keep making [X] phone "...in the context of Microsoft not only can we continue to build these [X] devices..." -Elop
    http://bit.ly/1o0pBSE
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    It's chess, not checkers ;-)
    24 Feb, 10:12 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Tic-Tac-Toe, more like.
    24 Feb, 10:14 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Or perhaps shuffleboard ;-)
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    In her email, Larson-Green said she will continue leading Microsoft’s hardware business until Microsoft closes its Nokia deal, which is expected in coming weeks. Larson-Green said she will work for Qi Lu, head of the applications and services engineering group responsible for software such as Microsoft Office and Bing.
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    Here’s the full text of Larson-Green’s email:

     

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    As you will read in the notes below from Qi and Satya, I’ve accepted a new challenge, leading the My Life & Work team in ASG and serving as the Chief Experience Officer (CXO). As hard as it is for me to leave Devices & Studios, I’m thrilled about this opportunity. In working with company leaders this year to establish our One Microsoft vision and plan, I thought about ways I could have impact on helping Microsoft prepare for the future and innovate. My discussions with Satya and Qi made clear this is a critical space to drive new thinking and an essential way to help the shape the company’s direction. I’m looking forward to developing the Digital Life & Digital Work Experience Substrate that powers modern digital experiences regardless of device, as well as working across ASG to strengthen customer experiences.
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    I want to thank each and every one of you for welcoming me and supporting me as the leader of Devices & Studios over the past 7 months. I’m very proud of what we have accomplished during such a short timeframe. We launched Xbox One, Surface 2 & Pro 2, blockbuster games like Forza and Ryse, a brand new Xbox Music and Video service, PPI, and some amazing unannounced innovations just to name a few – incredibly impressive!
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    Our opportunity to grow as a world-class devices and experiences company is greater than ever, and I have every belief that as One Microsoft we’re on the right path. The addition of Nokia Devices & Services into the DnS family will add tremendous scale, talent and opportunity for our future.
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    I’ll remain in role leading the DnS organization in the interim until the Nokia deal closes and Stephen Elop makes his transition to Microsoft. We’ve been meeting regularly throughout and are making a lot of progress, ensuring our teams are ready for the Day 1 close and beyond.
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    You are all in great hands with Stephen and already we’ve shared a lot with him and his LT from Nokia regarding all of the fantastic people, teams and products in DnS. I also know many of you are looking forward to welcoming the Nokia team and working more closely with them.
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    As I look to the future, I’m reminded of a favorite Chinese proverb: “To get through the hardest journey we need take only one step at a time, but we must keep on stepping.”
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    I encourage you all to stay focused on the journey and opportunities ahead, and know that I’ll be there in step with you as we launch the next chapter of Microsoft.
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    Thank you,
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    Julie
    25 Feb, 01:53 AM Reply Like
  • flybywire54
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    The most likely scenario is that those new Nokia android phones are released with the blessing of Microsoft . As Andreas highlighted WP8 market share is stalling , hardly surprising given that that OS improvement must be Microsoft last priority at least so far , then Android has 75% market share , 42% of it in China alone so can't be ignored , and then those 35,000 Nokia employees transferring to Microsoft must be kept busy somehow . Nokia is still number two worldwide in total number of phones sold that could significantly help them , I mean Microsoft , to regain market share . Another possible though unlikely scenario is that the Microsoft B.O.D is postponing if not cancelling the deal , could that be possible ?
    24 Feb, 11:03 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Enjoy the latest Kantar ComTech figures, duly released for MWC this morning http://bit.ly/1fxWXY9
    24 Feb, 12:46 PM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    fly
    "given that that OS improvement must be Microsoft last priority. . . . "
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    Yeah, you would think after spending 7B it would be a top priority, but MS just doesn't seem able to make it happen. In other words, MS just can't compete. They can dominate when they have hegemony, but competition just eludes them, or confuses them, "What? We need a phone that allows people to have privacy and a cloud system that doesn't screw up people's entire phones and delete pictures?"
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    I keep harping on the privacy issue because it is a concern that is building huge steam. And MS's idea of locking it's system down to a point nothing works isn't going to do it. People want personal security. As technology advances, this privacy issue is going to become the number one concern of people who can have their entire identity wiped out in one button push--kinda like MS can wipe out your entire phone with their services that don't work, so you have to "reset."
    24 Feb, 02:38 PM Reply Like
  • hgary06
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    Elop's revenge for not getting picked to be MSFT CEO.
    24 Feb, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    LOL :)
    24 Feb, 02:56 PM Reply Like
  • Freddo70
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    Guys.....not sure why you are dragging Nokia into this discussion but this is all about MSFT launching a new Android phone line.
    24 Feb, 02:54 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    If so, good for keeping the accounting department busy - they could pay Android royalties to themselves. Now, where is the ledger for that...
    24 Feb, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • alukro
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    Although I made a very nice profit on Nokia at the announcement of the Devices department being sold to Microsoft, I for one am VERY disappointed that it was ever done. (I know the actual deal hasn't gone through yet.) I love the Nokia phone with WP8. I was incredibly excited for the 1020, as were the people and salesmen I was talking to. I think this stock would be making more headlines had they just kept in this direction. I sold because I had no idea what their plan was going to be after selling Devices Dept. I'm staying out because I still don't know what their plan is.
    24 Feb, 04:56 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    At least, you know more than Nokia themselves: They don't even know that they have no plan : )

     

    Enjoy your 3rd September 2012 profit and invest elsewhere!
    24 Feb, 07:41 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Former Nokia head to run Microsoft's Devices and Studios business
    http://bit.ly/OwotMe

     

    Microsoft will appoint former Nokia CEO Stephen Elop as its new head of Devices and Studios, replacing current head Julie Larson-Green.

     

    The announcement comes via an internal Microsoft memo dispatched by Larson-Green and obtained by Geekwire, which details the change.
    25 Feb, 01:12 AM Reply Like
  • joshvegas
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    Promotion from CEO role at Nokia?
    25 Feb, 01:15 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Studios?

     

    Thai massage? Nail polish? High-end HiFi?
    25 Feb, 02:28 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Former Nokia head to run Microsoft's Devices and Studios business
    http://bit.ly/OwotMe
    25 Feb, 01:15 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    If this goes down as reported, then the man that left Microsoft to head Nokia has...
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    Created the Nokia devices he'd like to see in the market
    Delivered Nokia D&S to MSFT
    Returned to MSFT
    Now will lead that division and have control of those devices post deal
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    But MSFT had no knowledge that an Android device from Nokia would enter the market and they’re embarrassment and surprised and this will lead them to kill Nokia X post deal?
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    I've got a great deal on Enron shares if you're interested ;-) I'm not accusing anyone here of being that naive but if you listened to the pundits the past few weeks; clearly there's one born every minute :-)
    25 Feb, 01:33 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Stephen Elop was a mole.

     

    Enron? That sounds smashing! You got any tulip bulbs, perchance?
    25 Feb, 02:29 AM Reply Like
  • Randal James
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    If I fault Elop for anything, it was sticking with AT & T as an exclusive for the 1020. The new phone they are advertising now (Ikon) is only on Verizon at the moment so maybe they changed their thoughts there. But Elop understood the broad approach to making product offerings so there were phones everyone talked about and also phones with remarkable sales results. That's what I hope to see from MS or a lot of this effort and time was like a 4th of July sparkler - bright and fascinating for five minutes but then gone and soon forgotten.

     

    I've just about given up on the 1020 and will forego the fine camera for a decent Nexus 5. The coolest feature is probably voice-directed Google search. But who knows what might yet come out of MWC?
    25 Feb, 01:36 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    It has been said that the Icon is coming to everybody else this summer (U.S.), I would like to own one more Nokia Lumia device pre-deal finalization, and that may be the last.
    25 Feb, 01:44 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Remarkable were the low-end low-margin Lumia 520 sales, but then, not surprisingly so.

     

    Otherwise, Stephen Elop completely misunderstood Nokia's core markets and directed too many design, marketing and carrier efforts at the U.S. (his pre-Nokia core focus market), while neglecting Europe and Asia and the apps needed there to unlock WP8's utility value. MWC talk is (as in fact last year): "Everybody loves a comeback" could have been achieved, but the focus was all wrong.

     

    We have seen it happen many times since the 70s; U.S. managers coming to Europe or Asia, in the automotive, banking or insurance sector, only to misunderstand where the focus must be.
    25 Feb, 02:37 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    'The map comes alive': Nokia Here boss dreams of drones, self-driving cars http://cnet.co/1huEyKM
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    ""This diversity of devices and transformation of transport requires a quantum leap in location technology. "Mapping 2.0," says Hellmis, "is in the cloud, and is highly precise -- it's centimetre exact, right down to a car knowing what lane it's in.""
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    ""Not only will a car know where it is and where it's going, but it will take you there too. Hellmis believes that maps are crucial for self-driving cars, which rely on accurate sensors and high-quality map detail to go where they need to. A world of cars that drive off and park themselves is "not too far off...we already have park assist, where you take your hands off the wheel and the car parks itself.""
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    "Hellmis smiles at the fascinating fusion of motoring's past and future that saw a Mercedes S-Class recently drive itself 100-kilometres across Germany to recreate the first long-distance drive by Bertha Benz, wife of motoring pioneer Karl Benz."
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    'Google is not a location player'
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    ""One of the companies working on self-driving cars is Here's biggest rival in the world of maps. But Hellmis dismisses Google as a rival: "Google is not a location player," he argues. "You can't get mapping without adopting the whole ecosystem, Google Now, Google Plus, Google whatever. We don't do that. We want money for our service, we get money for our service. We're very different from an Internet player with an advertising monetisation model."""
    25 Feb, 01:25 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    "We're very different from an Internet player with an advertising monetisation model."

     

    equates to

     

    "We have squandered near $10bn in shareholder value since 2008 and are happy to make beautiful products without caring about monetisation."

     

    More Catalan wine is needed when hearing such statements.
    25 Feb, 02:06 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    I know I can always count on you Andreas :-)
    25 Feb, 02:16 PM Reply Like
  • Freddo70
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    http://tinyurl.com/n3v... is indeed so much more going on behind the scene than people realize.....if you are NOK, forget about devices, this became MSFT show since the announcement last year, Nokia seemed to have moved on but is simply not smart to disclose anything before they have made a clean cut with MSFT
    25 Feb, 05:28 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    In a rush with everything Andreas......?!?!?!
    25 Feb, 06:27 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Nokia: Yep, We Have 3 Platforms Now: http://bit.ly/1ckgozk
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    BARCELONA—Nokia's new Android-based X phones aren't replacing the Asha quasi-smartphones. They'll stay, even though Microsoft has said Windows Phone will run on the X's hardware platform. And Hans Henrik Lund, Nokia's vice president of smart device marketing, seems fine with that, although his messages were pretty mixed.
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    "We believe that we should provide choice. If we would go there with Lumia, we would go there with X. In harmony between the two, we would get more revenue out of it. So you could see similar hardware devices with X and Lumia platforms," he said.
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    What's Coming Next for Lumia?
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    I tried to tease some of Lumia's future out of Lund, but of course he wasn't biting - except to say that Nokia will have a big presence at Microsoft's Build conference in early April, where the OS company will announce Windows Phone 8.1.
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    Considering that Lund said the Nokia-Microsoft merger will close "within Q1" and Build is at the beginning of Q2, that event is likely to be the coming-out party for Nokia as a unit of Microsoft.
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    "They've enabled really good B2B solutions with what they're announcing, and they talked about dual SIM, which is good for us as well," Lund said. "We have been working closely with them on some things that will be announced as part of their next update that we'll be super excited about."
    25 Feb, 01:40 PM Reply Like
  • toraji
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    I know this a Microsoft article but most talking is about Nokia

     

    Here is my two cents ;-)

     

    http://yhoo.it/1hvQNqg

     

    "Nokia Wins Important Contract

     

    Zacks
    By Zacks Equity Research
    24 minutes ago

     

    NSN Extends LTE Contract with STC

     

    The Financial Times recently reported that Nokia Corp’s (NOK) wholly-owned subsidiary, Nokia Solutions and Networks (“NSN”), received a major 4G LTE network upgrade contract from EE, a leading U.K.-based wireless operator. The multi-year antenna and network security contract is valued at £250 million (approximately $416 million)."
    25 Feb, 06:33 PM Reply Like
  • 15277602
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    And my two cents:

     

    "ALU has been involved in a substantial amount of deals, including transactions with AT&T (T) and Verizon . Also, the ALU scored wins in China. But these deals come with flat or slightly down gross margins, which is at the core of ALU's profitability challenges. While the firm should be applauded for cutting operating expenditure and divesting assets in the "Shift Plan," there is no fundamental change in terms of the profitability of the company, thus, there is no fundamental change in the return generating ability of ALU."

     

    "Based on the fundamentals of the company, the equity is worthless. For bondholders, the company could have value. But as an equity investor, I don't see a way to derive a positive value for this company."

     

    Now. One can invest to Nokia that actually generates some profit, genuinely invests in R&D, has many ways to grow and monetize their capabilities and assets, has a strong and considering management (yes!) and which is a top brand of industry.

     

    Or.. one can rather invest in ALU - because they certainly do not move sideways!!
    26 Feb, 08:42 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Since 1st December 2013, ALU is moving sideways, though. The 300% ramp up before was phenomenal. But now, as the markets have turned flat and scaremongering takes over, long longs can buy on occasional dips - and not-so longs can sell and cash in nicely.
    27 Feb, 05:31 AM Reply Like
  • La Rue
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    And a great two cents it is torahi. The nugget pile just keeps getting bigger.
    25 Feb, 07:09 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    While shareholder value and SP keeps going sideways.
    26 Feb, 02:25 AM Reply Like
  • La Rue
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    So true AH.....
    26 Feb, 07:12 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    All turnarounds in my book are going sideways since December/January. The imminent market correction and lack of storytelling potential takes its toll. Only bubble and hype stocks can still attract substantial buyer volume, so it seems.

     

    ps: VPN for my WHITE Lumia 920 - no news at MWC : (
    27 Feb, 05:33 AM Reply Like
  • joshvegas
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    Why hurry?:) Probably not available until 2015.
    27 Feb, 05:41 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Probably never.
    27 Feb, 07:45 AM Reply Like
  • La Rue
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    Conspiracy AH :(
    27 Feb, 08:34 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    I am telling you right now that your (Andreas Hopf) VPN will be confirmed @
    --
    Build 2014 San Francisco, CA
    April 2-4
    http://bit.ly/1cpBT1D
    --
    "All eyes will be on Windows Phone Blue, Windows 8.1 Update 1, Xbox One, Visual Studio and maybe even Office "Gemini" at Microsoft's premiere developer conference. Registration opens January 14"
    --
    Windows Phone 8.1 (Blue) has leaked the following updates:
    http://bit.ly/1pxHhZk
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    ◾VPN support confirmed.
    ◾Default messaging app can be changed. Hopefully many would like whatsapp to become default.
    ◾SkyDrive renamed to OneDrive.
    ◾There is a new app model called Universal App which will contain templates to build Windows RT and Windows Phone apps. More details below.
    ◾Xbox Music, Xbox Videos replacing Music + Videos App.
    ◾Battery sense API to find out which app is consuming more battery.
    ◾Calendar has Weekly View with Monthly view enabled inside it.
    ◾Option to hide location icon.
    ◾Text Backup now allows you to download all messages or choose a time period i.e. last month.
    ◾Finally a Podcast app.
    ◾The camera app has 3 new modes: camera, burst and video
    ◾NFC payment has some fine controls which lets you choose if rhe payment will work when the phone is locked or only when its unlocked.
    ◾Option to turn off vibration in silent mode and ring mode.
    ◾Lots of new transitions by default.
    ◾Apps can be installed on SD card but similar to Android model, the developers can prevent users from doing it for their apps. This is important because games perform better on phone memory. You can choose to store music, videos, podcasts, photos, new apps, new downloads on phone or SD card.
    ◾No new tile size from what I’ve seen in the default apps and the SDK
    ◾File manager? Docs talk about a file picker and saver. So there maybe a file manager in the RTM!
    ◾New youtube player! compact player | Landscape
    ◾WebGL Support
    ◾HTML5 test results: http://bit.ly/1cpBUmb ( 372/555)
    ◾New USB Settings 1) Ask me before using USB data connection. 2) Notify me when I connect to a slow USB Charger.
    ◾Navigation Bar Settings
    ◾Slide Down to Close Apps instead of having a cross icon on top right.
    ◾Wi-Fi Direct
    ◾Audio/video transcoding, Hardware accelerated
    ◾It will be possible to edit media files like audio and video; Add effects to audio and video including slow motion.
    ◾Apps will not be able to record video on their own.
    ◾Stereoscopic 3d support
    ◾Single sign-in for apps which is similar to Windows 8
    ◾Location based API for reminders.
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    Microsoft is definitely merging Windows Store and Windows Phone Store.
    --
    1.JavaScript is being supported by using a module in SDK called as Universal App. This can be used to build both Windows App and Windows Phone App making it possible to share codes between the apps.
    2.Windows Phone and Windows RT are categorized now under Store Apps in Visual Studio. So you can see how MS is trying to merge them. Main templates are universal apps that create both WP8 and WinRT project.
    3.Splashscreen for Windows RT and Windows Phone look same.
    4.XAP is being discarded for APPX.
    5.Back button doesn’t terminate the app. The whole life cycle is like Windows RT
    6.According to documents WP8 is now called WinPRT — That’s even more confusing.
    7.Pivots, now called Hub, have smaller title. More screen space!
    --
    You are welcome :-)
    27 Feb, 08:38 AM Reply Like
  • joshvegas
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    It was just sarcasm. Customers were asking for VPN from the very beginning of WP7.
    27 Feb, 08:49 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Excellent! Only four years after Lieberman and friends went on stage. Now, that's customer centric product development at it's best.
    27 Feb, 10:32 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    -Andreas

     

    Just for you!

     

    IBM: IT likes Windows Phone
    http://bit.ly/1knxn8P
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    RedMondMag reports that IBM is seeing increasing enterprise demand for Windows Phone handsets.
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    Jim Szafranski, senior VP of customer platform services at IBM’s Fiberlink unit, said many of its enterprise customers would like to see their employees use Windows Phone for work-related activities because of its tight integration with Microsoft’s back-end systems.
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    "IT likes Microsoft and likes Windows. They’ve made a lot of investment in things like Active Directory and Exchange and as a result they have a lot of interest in seeing Windows Phone used by employees. I don’t think anyone is going to be all Windows on mobile, but enterprises do want it and I think they have a strong opportunity when it comes to the enterprise side of purchase decisions."
    --
    In response IBM’s Fiberlink recently released their MaaS360 suite on Windows Phone which provides secure e-mail, calendaring, contacts and a browser.
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    "Since its launch in late 2012, Microsoft’s Windows Phone 8 has seen nearly steady growth in the enterprise: 12 percent of U.S. companies are planning on buying Windows Phone 8 devices in the first quarter of 2014," said Chris Hazelton, research director for mobile & wireless at 451 Research. "According to our ChangeWave Research, corporate users are more satisfied with Windows Phone 8 than they are with either Android or BlackBerry. We see growing demand and interest in the OS – which will drive a need for mobile management tools to support it."
    --
    Nokia has earlier said they are aiming for 20% of the enterprise phone market by 2014, after winning 11.5% in less than 2 years, largely by displacing Blackberry and providing a better value and security proposition than iOS and Android.
    27 Feb, 09:18 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Sooper! Dat'z anudda 74 phones sold - booyakka!
    27 Feb, 10:34 AM Reply Like
  • Randal James
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    ewm

     

    That is a substantial report and significant as IBM is one of the leading IT consultants and probably a reliable source of info on what big league US firms intend on doing. [Unlike Andreas, who is making the rounds of Barcelona taverns and snarkily shouting "Show me your Nokias!"]
    27 Feb, 01:47 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Randal,
    --
    A few other enterprise representatives have postulated this same sentiment outside the U.S. but it has been dismissed due to the “Voldemort" rule. However, I agree with you, coming from IBM it is more credible.
    --
    Enterprise is a tough nut to crack, especially in the U.S. There are HUGE legacy concerns and contrary to popular believe, IT does not sit in a room drooling over the iPhone or a Galaxy whatever! They also (again against popular belief) don't favor spending vast amounts of their precious time making sure your BYoD device gets setup on the company network and configured correctly. BYoD is a "workaround" and a time-suck unless it has tools to manage over it that save time and make management intuitive, flexible and secure.
    --
    Because the S&P 500 companies have huge legacy concerns, once they start to embrace mobile as something more than an add-on they will buy mobile devices to set a standard (while still maintaining BYoD) it is that standard where there is opportunity in the U.S. for MSFT. The consumer may not adopt WP in the U.S. but enterprise might (yes, amongst other OS’s and devices as well). It depends on who needs to buy tablets and smartphones for a build out and how much of legacy they want to tie into with those devices.
    --
    WP (blue) 8.1 has an impressive list of changes (some confirmed / most not). Andreas makes a correct assertion that these should all have been delivered forever ago (for the consumer). However, since large cap enterprise in the U.S. is only now considering gearing up for an in-house mobile push (companies buying devices for mobile vs just plain old BYoD) perhaps there timing is very good. Consider that enterprise now knows exactly what they want in Mobile vs. a few years ago when we were still making this stuff up.
    --
    Funny Anecdotal story:
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    I work for one of these S&P 500 companies and while everyone thinks Microsoft is late to mobile here is what the company I work for just did. IT put out an email about no longer supporting XP (a pile of PCs still running XP in the bowels of the company now need an upgrade). This is coming from one of the more technically evolved companies and one that embraces change. It is not a knock against them it simply underlines the problem of size and cost. Yet people keep talking about poor Windows 8 sales. Seriously, Windows 7 will be relevant for quite some time. Therefore WP 8.1 will not be "late" in enterprise-time.
    27 Feb, 02:53 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Report: Microsoft Edges Ahead Of Amazon To Become The Largest Windows Hosting Company
    http://bit.ly/1eqY5ge
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    Netcraft today reported that Microsoft has passed Amazon to become the largest Windows hosting company. The report was measured by the number of web-facing Windows computers. It reported that Microsoft now has 23,400 web-facing Windows computers against Amazon’s 22,600. Netcraft cited Windows Azure as the main reason behind this growth. They also speculated that Windows Azure’s new Web Sites service could also be the reason.

     

    --
    Microsoft’s growth is predominantly a result of the growth of Windows Azure: Azure now accounts for close to 90% of all web-facing computers at Microsoft. Windows Azure has grown by almost 50% since May 2013, during the February 2014 Web Server survey Netcraft found 27,000 web-facing computers (both Windows and Linux) using the cloud computing platform. Many of Microsoft’s own services are powered by Windows Azure including Office 365, Xbox Live, Skype, and OneDrive.
    27 Feb, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    "Many of Microsoft’s own services are powered by Windows Azure including Office 365, Xbox Live, Skype, and OneDrive. "

     

    Now there's a surprise.
    27 Feb, 05:31 PM Reply Like
  • wil3714
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    I dont get it why is that a surprise
    27 Feb, 06:45 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    There seem to be various things you don't get. Sorry. But, really!
    27 Feb, 06:46 PM Reply Like
  • wil3714
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    OK what is Windows Azure than genius?
    28 Feb, 09:23 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Amazing. You still don't get it. Perplexing.
    28 Feb, 09:38 AM Reply Like
  • wil3714
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    Comments (1583) | Send Message
     
    Again doesnt know anything about finance or technology, why are you even here?
    28 Feb, 09:51 AM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    Comments (7849) | Send Message
     
    You are the funniest SA troll since Jay Benny aka Waterloo Grads Rule.
    28 Feb, 11:04 AM Reply Like
  • wil3714
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    Comments (1583) | Send Message
     
    And yet in the end why are you here?
    28 Feb, 11:18 AM Reply Like
  • beyond dreams
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    Comments (185) | Send Message
     
    AH,
    Your arrogance is outmatched only by your sarcasm.
    28 Feb, 09:33 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Nokia X Rooted and Loaded with Google Apps, Play Store, and Google Now Launcher!
    http://bit.ly/1hL5K85
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    “Kashamalaga’s guide is quite simple. First, you acquire root access using the Galdalf Exploit in Framaroot. From there, you install a root-capable file manager. Then, you copy a Nokia X-specific Gapps package by Kashamalaga to your /system/app folder, and give it the appropriate permissions. After a reboot and a few more application installs, you are then able to access the Google Play Store, various Google Apps, and the Google Experience Launcher.”
    --
    That’s right, a device that is easily rooted (hacked) and completely circumvents Googles desire to not have a mobile device from MSFT using Google services. Let’s be clear, Google is the one that wants the relationship to be that way, Microsoft has always wanted mobile access to quality “BASIC” Google services. However, Google hides behind things like the market share of Windows Phone and other nonsense to avoid being competitive.
    --
    Post D&S deal MS will have these devices and Elop will have the chance to run a product that if it gains a Lumia 520/521 like market will…
    --
    A) spread MS services or
    B) be rooted and cause Google embarrassment with MS devices getting around Googles unwillingness to have MSFTs mobile push benefit from Google branded services.
    --
    Sure, the later does not benefit MS directly but it should be noted that this creates an issue for Google to either ignore or address. Either choice has negative consequences for Google. This strategy would be dangerous if it were utilized in the U.S. or in important European regions where MSFT would lose some face if their device got rooted just to have access to Google services, but look at the markets where this device is reported to be marketed:
    --
    Markets for Nokia X:
    --
    “”The new line—the Nokia X, X+, and XL—would be targeted at emerging markets (including Eastern Europe, China, India, Indonesia, Thailand, and the Middle East)””
    --
    Taking the fight to the shores where the enemy is deeply entrenched in a dirty budget war and the rules are not well defined or even remotely enforceable could turn the tide in the war (Normandy)!
    --
    If victorious, MSFT could see Google sit down at the table and come up with a deal so Windows Phone gets access to standard Google apps and services that are official (not Google play and Google store but heck “JUST THE FREAKING OFFICIAL YOUTUBE app” for crying out loud). In exchange MSFT would never launch another forked Android device that creates a potential emerging market mess for Google (or something like that).
    28 Feb, 10:02 PM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    "If victorious, MSFT could see Google sit down at the table and come up with a deal so Windows Phone gets access to standard Google apps and services that are official (not Google play and Google store but heck “JUST THE FREAKING OFFICIAL YOUTUBE app” for crying out loud). In exchange MSFT would never launch another forked Android device that creates a potential emerging market mess for Google (or something like that)."
    --
    My point was, if Nokia X could show any signs of success, it could push Google to play fair, here is what the "X" has been doing:
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    Nokia X 'sold out' within four minutes at Chinese retailer
    http://bit.ly/1msl9zL
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    "Windows Phone Central in a report has cited a Chinese e-commerce website named JD.com and claimed that the Nokia X was sold out four minutes after online reservations opened. Pre-orders for the Nokia X launched at 10:00AM on Monday (24 March 2014) in China."
    --
    "The report does not make it clear how many units were available for pre-order on the JD.com site."
    --
    "The official Chinese JD.com notes (English translated), "The first volume sold out! Next buying time at 12:00 on March 31, due to the limited volume, only open to users who have qualified for the original appointment, the dealer orders shall be deleted!"
    --
    "Contrary to earlier reports emerging out of China, these orders indeed correspond to actual sales and are not pre-bookings done without fronting any money."
    --
    Nokia X projected to sell 16 million units, now on pre-order in Spain
    http://bit.ly/1pDLURP
    --
    "MNB reports that according to Strategy Analytics analyst Scott Bicheno Nokia could sell as many as 16 million Nokia X Android handsets in 2014. That would translate into around 4 million handsets a quarter, or about 40% to 50% of Windows Phone volume."
    --
    *****************
    So, what will Google do if this keeps up...well...here is a start!!!!!!!!!!
    *****************
    --
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
    Google API library for .NET paves the way for Google services on Windows phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...
    http://bit.ly/1gmejZ9
    --
    "Google quietly announced last week that it has released an API library for .NET which is the first major step towards getting Google services on to Windows Phone. Google says that this is an open-source project and it is hosted over on NuGet."
    --
    "The new library will let developers who are using Microsoft’s .NET framework integrate their desktop or Windows Phone apps with Google services. Google says that there are more than 50 APIs in the library including Google Calendar, YouTube, Analytics, and many more."
    --
    "This step by Google is a big move towards getting quality Google services into Microsoft’s mobile and desktop stores. Previously, using Google services on Windows Phone was not welcomed by Google. At one point, Microsoft and Google were fighting, very publicly we might add, about a Microsoft built YouTube app that Microsoft pushed out to the Windows Phone store."
    25 Mar, 10:58 AM Reply Like
  • mKiwi
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    WOO HOO!

     

    Scored a 1020 today. Waiting for it to arrive.

     

    Fell off the back of a truck ;)

     

    Need a good case.
    28 Feb, 10:49 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Get the camera grip, it is great when shooting more photos in e.g. family events etc.

     

    I do not have a case for my L1020. The phone is sturdy enough to handle regular use. If you drop the phone on a hard floor the screen will crack, but other than that a case is just ugly and adds weight :)
    28 Feb, 10:54 PM Reply Like
  • Andreas Hopf
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    All Lumias are perfectly ok without a case from my experience, whether dropped on an office floor or paving stones.

     

    I never understood why most competitor devices are not designed to withstand everyday use without additional protection that completely contradicts the quest for the thinnest device.
    1 Mar, 09:38 AM Reply Like
  • dwdallam
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    AH,
    Agreed. I have a case, soft silicon case, around my Nokia 521 (why, I don't know since it it now 29 dollars, maybe only for new customers). The case does have a stand that is nice though. However, as you state, the idea is to have a thin phone that slides into your pocket easily. The silicon case does not.
    2 Mar, 01:48 PM Reply Like
  • mKiwi
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    I like the tough leather flip cover because it protects the screen from keys etc. I often have my phone in a front jean pocket, my wallet in the other pocket. Then there is a question of keys. If you put the keys in your pocket with the phone the screen can easily be scratched. The leather flip case prevents that.
    2 Mar, 02:56 PM Reply Like
  • Randal James
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    dwd,

     

    Maybe there is a teflon liner you can slip into your pocket so the phone slides right in... :)
    2 Mar, 06:38 PM Reply Like
  • mKiwi
    , contributor
    Comments (562) | Send Message
     
    Hi Seppo

     

    I purchased a cheap case for my 610 and it had a cheap plastic liner that wrapped over the side of the phone but that just cracked after a short time.

     

    I went to Ebay and found a PDair leather flip case that had a very solid plastic clip that held the 610 very securely. I dropped the 610 quite a few times in the PDair case and that had no effect on the phone.

     

    I just spent 3/4 of an hour on Ebay looking for a good case and couldn't see one.
    28 Feb, 11:04 PM Reply Like
  • mKiwi
    , contributor
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    I choose a case on Ebay.

     

    Type "KRUSELL flip case 1020" into the search form. It doesn't have the flimsy plastic strips holding the phone in place.
    2 Mar, 05:28 AM Reply Like
  • ewmpsi
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    Karbonn Mobiles to launch dual-OS smartphones in June
    http://bit.ly/1i1aA5y
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    CHENNAI: Homegrown mobile phonemaker Karbonn Mobiles is all set to launch dual-OS (operating system) devices, which will support both Android and Windows, by June.
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    The company has just signed the licence agreement with Microsoft to make Windows-based phones and will put this along with its existing Android system to bring out the dual-OS phones in about six months, the company's chairman Sudhir Hasija said.
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    This comes soon after Nokia moved out of its Windows-only strategy to launch low-cost smartphones that run on the Android operating system.
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    "Microsoft has eased the regulations and is opening up its platform for other players. We signed the agreement two days ago and will launch a range of Windows phones in about three months," Hasija said. The dual-OS phones will be out by June, and will target office-going professionals and 'techies', he said. The company is yet to zero in on the price range.
    1 Mar, 04:40 AM Reply Like
  • Randal James
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    Wow. You see these names sneaking onto the bottom row of what the US major telcos offer but if they stay true to quality build and reasonable features I imagine in 5 years they will have displaced a lot of the lower end Samsung slots. That or, as has long been postulated, the margins contract for current high-end builders. [The fruits and the Koreans.]

     

    If N. America and Euroland are the premier markets for high-end smartphones, I wonder if anyone will try to do the assembly in those areas so they can claim the 'honor' of being locally made. Apple's new sapphire facility is in AZ (I think). Nokia could dust off their design desks and try again in about 23 months. They could build them in Crimea (not!).
    2 Mar, 12:02 PM Reply Like
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