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BlackBerry's QNX supports Apple's CarPlay

  • BlackBerry (BBRY +2.1%) spokesman Paul Leroux tells N4BB his company's QNX OS is among the automotive software solutions supporting Apple's CarPlay platform.
  • Leroux: "We have a long-standing partnership with Apple to ensure high-quality connectivity with their devices, and this partnership extends to support for Apple CarPlay."
  • Apple officially launched CarPlay (formerly called iOS in the Car) yesterday. The platform, set to be supported by most top automakers, allows users to access various Apple and 3rd-party services via in-dash systems paired with iPhones.
  • In January, Citron Research cites QNX's 200+ vehicle design wins as a reason for being bullish on BlackBerry. More recently, Bloomberg reported Ford plans to have QNX power its next-gen Sync automotive platform.
  • Shares are trading higher amid a broader market rally.
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  • Shred13
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    Apple and BlackBerry are working together? Wow okay
    4 Mar, 11:43 AM Reply Like
  • financeminister
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    Reminds me of Microsoft and Apple working together back in 1998
    4 Mar, 12:10 PM Reply Like
  • Chris Lau
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    Strange bed fellows Apple will most likely sit atop QNX, like an app, but it will get all the glory and the attention.
    4 Mar, 03:34 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    Absolute non-issue.

     

    This is like celebrating that plugging in my DVD player into my computer 'works'.
    So what.

     

    Infotainment systems support various input and interface specifications so that they may interact with things like bluetooth music, import of contact lists, etc.

     

    The fact that some (QNX powered) infotainment system published an interface specification and Apple implemented that specification is nothing other than expected.

     

    People should quit trying to spin this as some sort of Apple acknowledgement of QNX - because it's not.
    4 Mar, 11:50 AM Reply Like
  • Loon-a-tick
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    Half empty huh?
    4 Mar, 11:57 AM Reply Like
  • Kurt Windibank
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    QNX supplies the OS. That is the point...and QNX is growing rapidly.
    4 Mar, 12:00 PM Reply Like
  • Kurt Windibank
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    Car play is not an OS..its an Interface with an OS.
    4 Mar, 12:02 PM Reply Like
  • robbiejojo
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    People should quit trying to spin this as some sort of Apple acknowledgement of QNX - because it's not.

     

    Perhaps not Apple but certainly the auto manufacturers.
    4 Mar, 12:04 PM Reply Like
  • perryy
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    Your hate BlackBerry knows no bound. If QNX is so irrelevant, why is it that Apple did not do it all alone? Why using QNX?

     

    This is not the best way to work for your pay, you can still earn money by hyping ios devices without bashing BlackBerry. Or is bashing BlackBerry part of your contract with Apple? Mrknowitall really.
    4 Mar, 12:23 PM Reply Like
  • Arduino_RaspberryPi
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    Still giving your money away to Blackberry Investors?
    4 Mar, 02:02 PM Reply Like
  • Arduino_RaspberryPi
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    Only people who hate BlackBerry seem to be the ones who are losing money shorting it now. The QNX o/s will dominate the auto entertainment/navigation and management space.
    4 Mar, 02:13 PM Reply Like
  • Arduino_RaspberryPi
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    @Loon-a-tick. His glass or bank account?
    4 Mar, 03:11 PM Reply Like
  • shubarua1
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    "...plugging in my DVD player into my compuer works"

     

    No. NEVER. It is much much more than that. It is plugging in Apple's infotainment system into Blackberry's QNX- the mother of all car infotainment systems.
    A solution for things that can't crash.
    For now QNX is simply looking to innovate. Some of the more sophisticated mapping technology is now available to customers. QNX engineers are planning out dashboards years into future. Some of what they are working
    on right now for 2017 model year is going to "blow our mind". http://bit.ly/1d1AlzZ
    4 Mar, 04:43 PM Reply Like
  • Voice of Doom
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    @mr.KIA: Frankly, your constant BlackBerry Bashing is becoming tiring. If you have nothing but negative things to write, one has to ask why. I for one see a definite upside in simply the positive PR that this QNX spin is having on BlackBerry's rep and the thunder that it is stealing from Apple & Samsung. I'm beginning to smell fear in you mr.KIA.
    5 Mar, 08:36 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    VOD,

     

    Not fear, confidence.
    I called it on the DoD fiasco http://seekingalpha.co... and I'm calling it here. http://seekingalpha.co...
    5 Mar, 03:06 PM Reply Like
  • ELLAS
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    Mr. Knowitall

     

    QNX supports Apple's CarPlay. QNX is the foundation of CarPlay.
    6 Mar, 06:26 AM Reply Like
  • Cliff Hilton
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    Of coarse it is Mr. Knowitall. But true.

     

    I think it's generous of Blackberry to throw Apple a bone so they can get into the car market.
    4 Mar, 11:55 AM Reply Like
  • ELLAS
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    Cliff Hilton

     

    Both Apple and BlackBerry can benefit from this deal, and perhaps future deals. Why? Because I have a suspicion that Google is trying super hard to not only enter this market, but also wants to dominate it. Google is running out of ideas to grow.

     

    So I look at this as a strategic partnership. Though automobiles running this CarPlay better also support BB10 devices, and perhaps Android too.
    5 Mar, 10:32 AM Reply Like
  • Crispin_in_Waterloo
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    "The fact that some (QNX powered) infotainment system published an interface specification and Apple implemented that specification is nothing other than expected."

     

    That is correct Mr Knowitall. It is expected from the company that has the OS for every car producer in North America. The holdout was Ford and they have suffered so much bad press from (typical) MSFT bloatware they have thrown in the towel and gone with what actually works.

     

    The fact that it supports the also-ran, never-seen-before iOS products for cars is indicative of the prescience of the QNX team at BlackBerry.

     

    When Google gets permission to operate their driverless cars in California, do you think it will be allowed to operate using Android, or QNX? I wonder...
    4 Mar, 11:59 AM Reply Like
  • Quoth the Raven
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    Long BBRY, price target $15
    4 Mar, 12:05 PM Reply Like
  • Arduino_RaspberryPi
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    Buy the dips.
    4 Mar, 02:03 PM Reply Like
  • tiger8896
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    Whoopee, it's up 19 cents since the news came out. BBRY and it's shareholders are not going to get rich from QNX being deployed in cars when they get a few bucks a system for every car QNX is deployed in.
    4 Mar, 12:58 PM Reply Like
  • kherman
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    It already controls most car engines. This is just icing on the cake.
    4 Mar, 01:11 PM Reply Like
  • Zack 800
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    QNX is certainly making the "limelight" as of lately...sounds good for BB.

     

    Infotainment systems are picking up a lot of steam and QNX in right in the thick of it!
    4 Mar, 01:03 PM Reply Like
  • crasster
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    Actually it is. Apple knows they "need" to work with QNX to be successful in the auto industry.
    4 Mar, 01:03 PM Reply Like
  • dannyyoung56
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    If it wasn't a big deal why didn't apple say it....mr knowitall just give honor when it's due
    4 Mar, 01:03 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    Apparently most of you have got this backwards.

     

    The QNX infotainment systems WERE HERE FIRST. Get it? Before CarPlay even existed.

     

    This means that Apple CarPlay supports QNX and not the otherway around.
    4 Mar, 01:47 PM Reply Like
  • GRojasHruska
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    Mr Knowitall, umn do you program? Do you understand what a "back end" is? It's what allows the user to enjoy the UI, it's every process necessary for interactions of every sort. QNX is the back end - it is in control and iOS is a pretty little series of images for you to interface with. I hope I haven't simplified this to much, you get the point right?
    4 Mar, 02:01 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    First of all GRoj,

     

    if you picture is any indication of your age, I've been a programmer longer than you've been alive.

     

    However, I agree with most of what you've said and it in fact supports my position that this is not some sort of QNX win.

     

    Yes, QNX is the back end, and the infotainment running on top of QNX published an interface and Apple chose to implement it.

     

    Apple in this case supports QNX, not the other way around.

     

    Here is a quick analogy:
    If I plug my Panasonic USB DVD player into my DELL computer, of course I expect it to work. Panasonic simply implemented to the USB specification.

     

    This is all that's happened here. QNX infotainment published an interface and Apple implemented it.

     

    This is the DoD nonsense all over again.
    4 Mar, 02:09 PM Reply Like
  • LoganSix
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    Does Dell support USB by adding driver or does USB support Dell, because Dell added the drivers?

     

    Or, since QNX supports Miricast, do BB10 phones that have Miricast now support QNX cars or do the QNX cars support Miricast BB10 phones. I'm trying to figure out where you are splitting the hairs.

     

    Oh, and I see that you now admit that Apple CarPlay runs ON TOP OF QNX.
    4 Mar, 02:30 PM Reply Like
  • ATInsider
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    Mr. Knowitall
    ""This means that Apple CarPlay supports QNX and not the otherway around.""

     

    I was listening to you until you mentioned the above statement. Now I know you have absolutely no idea what you are talking to about.

     

    iOS "CANNOT" run on an automobile because it's not secure nor efficient enough. And iOS will "NEVER" be efficient enough. Automobiles need a "CRASH FREE" superior RTOS to ensure nothing goes wrong.

     

    So yes iOS "NEEDS" QNX or it ain't happening. FORD already made that huge MS mistake.
    4 Mar, 03:15 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    ATI,

     

    Let me clarify that statement:
    "This means that Apple CarPlay supports [the interface specification published by the infotainment system powered by] QNX and not the other way around."
    4 Mar, 04:22 PM Reply Like
  • TrollStomper
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    Awwww... KIA is pretending to be technical again. How cute.
    4 Mar, 05:44 PM Reply Like
  • GRojasHruska
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    My age has nothing to do with this.
    5 Mar, 10:27 AM Reply Like
  • ELLAS
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    KIA
    I think you missed the point. Apple CarPlay relies on BlackBerry's QNX, that is the point most people are trying to explain to you.

     

    QNX is not only the best solution for the automobile bar none, its already been trusted and proven to work flawlessly throughout the years. But you already know this basic fact...
    5 Mar, 10:46 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    GRojasHruska, you asked if I understand programming, then became condescending.

     

    ELLAS, no CarPlay does not rely on QNX.
    You plug your iPhone into the OEM's infotainment system and the infotainment system steps aside while the iPhone takes over the screen and various i/o systems. http://bit.ly/Nx0FHf

     

    QNX is insignificant in this process.
    5 Mar, 03:11 PM Reply Like
  • ELLAS
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    Mr. Knowitall

     

    QNX supports Apple's CarPlay. QNX is the foundation of CarPlay. Got it.
    6 Mar, 06:28 AM Reply Like
  • ELLAS
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    Apple CarPlay relies on BlackBerry QNX
    -----------
    QNX, which serves as the basis for BlackBerry 10, is also used to power the in-car infotainment systems that link with CarPlay
    Read more at http://bit.ly/NWQ48B
    http://bit.ly/NWQ4oR

     

    Can we put this to rest finally.
    6 Mar, 06:31 AM Reply Like
  • Arduino_RaspberryPi
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    A more genuine article title would be: "Apple CarPlay relies on BlackBerry's QNX"
    4 Mar, 02:01 PM Reply Like
  • Jbgoose
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    Today I can access Sirius XM in my full of the newest technology, multi USB and electrical outlet, no CD player standard Jeep Grand C with the large 8.5 or so touch navi screen- via U Connect, via any current Apple or droid device, via any computer. Via the built in radio, maps, live traffic, yelp, etc etc etc. I can dial into my home router I am told, we already use tech such as hbo go et al. Why- The car is a roving wifi machine, and it's come in rather handy although we were doubtful we would use the technology ever. Yet because the free 12 month trial makes it free ... We use it all the time. It's helped us avoid bad traffic and find new routes to a few places - nothing an old school map couldn't accomplish or cell phone, radio for traffic. When trial ends- we will simply convert an extra device into a wifi hotspot and roll on. Or we will pay u connect if we need 100% reliability for a very long trip (pay for day, week or month).

     

    Can someone explain in common language what this new Apple offering accomplishes? What can I do with this that I cannot do now?
    4 Mar, 02:09 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    jbgoose,

     

    Sure, Apple's car play interfaces to many infotaiment systems to provide the following features:

     

    "By taking control of your car’s screen, Apple is providing access to all the best features of iOS, controlled by voice and, depending on your car, the touchscreen or control knob. The user interface will be familiar to iOS users, with reworked versions of Maps, Podcasts, Messaging, and Music developed for the car’s screen. " http://wrd.cm/1lwnfOn

     

    This link also gives you a nice side-by-side comparison of how CarPlay stacks up against the competition.
    4 Mar, 02:16 PM Reply Like
  • Cochise54
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    "Cupertino's new in-vehicle infotainment system runs iOS on the surface but underneath the interface, BlackBerry's QNX embedded software is really driving the car. "
    http://bit.ly/1hGX9oS
    4 Mar, 02:23 PM Reply Like
  • tiger8896
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    People should read this, maybe they'll understand that QNX by itself is not a system. BBRY has an auto entertainment system similar to CarPlay and will compete with Apple's entertainment system.

     

    Does anyone really believe BBRY has a chance competing against Apple in that market? It's like BBRY coming out with their Playbook tablet which was a disasterous money loser.
    4 Mar, 04:01 PM Reply Like
  • shubarua1
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    " Does anyone really believe BBRY has a chance competing against Apple (in car infotainment system)?"

     

    Car infotainment system is just ONE of a few dashboards futuristic systems BBRY (QNX) is working on. For details see link below.

     

    http://bit.ly/1d1AlzZ
    4 Mar, 05:17 PM Reply Like
  • Jbgoose
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    Thanks for the link. To me, from a well studied telecom industry view, Apple must open up the car platform. All of the new wave of firms need to come to a standard for innovation and thus monetization to occur. As this is not groundbreaking news nor thought, I look forward to an Apple driven experience. It will basically be Apple allowing a slew of Apps on a car tech platform vs handheld. The innovations all the partners have now and are rolling out now cannot be glanced over. If Apple just gets a slice of the revenue then it is successful for them. The car makers have allowed this to go on since the 8 track. Ie: high end speaker systems and mp3 tape decks around 2000. Remember the wall of decks at a Radio Shack or Best Buy? It will be the same exact blueprint, this time will cost more as consumers will pay for function via apps, and it all leads back to personal cloud tapping anytime, anywhere. This is not a multi billion dollar money maker until standards are created/ then it's off to the races... My opinion, take. Thanks,
    5 Mar, 10:10 AM Reply Like
  • ELLAS
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    Mr. Knowitall

     

    So what you are saying is both BlackBerry and Apple are wrong, and you are right? Right?

     

    QUOTE:
    "Connectivity to smartphones and other mobile devices is a key strength of QNX Software Systems' platform for car infotainment systems, and many automakers and tier one automotive suppliers use our platform to implement smartphone/head-unit integration in their vehicles. We have a long-standing partnership with Apple to ensure high-quality connectivity with their devices, and this partnership extends to support for Apple CarPlay."
    http://bit.ly/NWQ48B
    6 Mar, 06:34 AM Reply Like
  • customize
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    The automobile industry is the working engine of our country and of course we have other commodities, textiles and the tech industry neither of which could hold up our economy on its own without leaning up against the car. If the white house didn't bail out the automotive industry when it did, we may not be talking about car play and or QNX right now. In other words the tech industry needs BlackBerry to lean on. My Q10 won't interface with microsoft sync in my Ford F-150 crew cab.
    4 Mar, 02:29 PM Reply Like
  • Cochise54
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    That's funny, I thought the American tax payer bailed out the auto industry. Though not Ford, of course.
    4 Mar, 02:33 PM Reply Like
  • Jbgoose
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    Exactly. And who invented white wall tires? Who made them? Made money from them? How? Same exact thing but with modern tech and instead of a onetime profit, this technology can be monetized with every new application for the cars infotainment system, bundled with other platforms, expanded upon in ways we have not thought of. Oh, can't wait until the day dunkin donuts sends me a 'roving coupon' or 'rollpon' for a free coffee with my munchkins just two exits down the road. Can only go so far but it is an incremental money maker just like the airline industry figured out. The 'remonetization of Everything' - just a slice will allow enough to profit.
    5 Mar, 11:22 AM Reply Like
  • LYogi
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    The takeaway here is that QNX has proven itself over and over again to be the most efficient, dependable, and functional 'backbone' to M2M and for anything that requires fail-safe and reliable technology.

     

    As such it is only a matter of time until QNX absorbs up the inferior technology beneath it (as it has already done with Android) and becomes the standard of mobile computing.

     

    LONG.
    4 Mar, 02:45 PM Reply Like
  • StepUp
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    So it bumped BRRY but not Apple. nice.
    4 Mar, 04:38 PM Reply Like
  • okellyfrank
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    There are lots of misinformation on the web regarding, some stating that “QNX is a programming language based on UNIX” It’s not. It was originally developed in the 1980’s by two Canadian programmers called Gordon Bell and Dan Dodge who formed a company called Quantum. They developed the software as a Machine to Machine OS.

     

    QNX is compatible with all processors in current use and is a real time microkernel based OS. What that means is that each computing process runs in its own environment and if it fails it will not bring down the rest of the OS. This attribute makes the OS necessary for mission critical applications from pace makers to nuclear power stations. QNX also has the ability to queue instructions based on priority rather than time and has a very clever way of passing instruction sets across a processor. So much so that benchmarks show that QNX systems can process instructions almost twice as fast as UNIX based systems. Hence why processing power in QNX is not of paramount importance compared to say a Windows or Apple system running a Monolithic Kernel OS (as opposed to a microkernel)

     

    QNX is the standard OS for working in the M2M (machine to machine) environment.

     

    In the case of Apple carplay the OS is QNX, this OS runs the cars electronics, things like the fuel injection and engine management system. The carplay system is not an OS, it is a GUI (graphic user interface) that can be switched on or off. QNX can also have an Android type GUI that can be enabled on if required. The reason for this setup is that outside of the USA Apple phones have a relatively far smaller market. and if anyone was following the mobile world congress the AMG Mercs were set up with Sony Androids.
    http://bit.ly/1fH9Gt9
    http://bit.ly/1fH9nPc
    5 Mar, 11:57 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    "In the case of Apple carplay the OS is QNX"

     

    Wrong. CarPlay's OS is iOS.
    The QNX powered infotainment system steps aside when you plug your iPhone into the infotainment system. http://bit.ly/Nx0FHf

     

    Funny you posted that statement after starting your lesson with: "There are lots of misinformation on the web regarding, ..."
    5 Mar, 03:17 PM Reply Like
  • shubarua1
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    May be this link will help you to understand implication, limitation and problematik why iOS should not be embeded in car as an operative system (from perspective of owners and manufacturers of car).
    A little hint: Proprietary vs. Open Standards
    http://bit.ly/1hI1w20
    5 Mar, 03:50 PM Reply Like
  • perryy
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    @mrkknowitall, how wrong are you? What is the name of the os that runs the dashboard screen? According to your ridiculous analogy, if your CD can be played by my CD player, is it your CD that supports my CD player or my CD player that support your CD? I used to respect you a lot but now that it is more than glaring that you are here just to bad mouth BlackBerry for no just cause, I think you have lost your credibility. The Apple carplay is nothing more than an app which is being run by the almighty QNX in cars. The OS that runs everything including the infotainment section is QNX.

     

    This is how carplay works, the carplay app on ios devices allows the mirroring of the contents of the ios device on the car screen which is being powered by QNX. ios ,due to its huge technical limitations, is incapable of powering anything in cars, including the infotainment section. That my iPhone which is being powered by ios is mirror on my dashboard screen powered by QNX doesn't mean that ios is the OS behind the "magic", it is disingenuous of anyone to think so. If bb10 support Google play in the future, I hope you will not say it is the other way round.

     

    Stop the hate, let truth reign in your life for once, there are better ways to earn a living than being paid to spread lies.
    6 Mar, 01:30 PM Reply Like
  • Jbgoose
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    Well, the argument above is exactly my point ... kudos to both, it does not matter who is right or wrong to the end user. So best make sure it works ... And as stated above, Apple is about nothing worldwide, Sony actually creates amazing products and has traction, worldwide more than Apple. They never lost the Walkman generation, they just lost our attention for a while. LG has some amazing products, like Samsung does. Point being- anything installed in a machine as simplistic in pure function as an automobile (in terms of function, point A to B safe is all that truly matters, white wall tires or not)... Anything will need to work with everything. So it is an ecosystem play. If the GUI helps Apple grow the content empire- great. Think who has an ecosystem; Sony, Apple, CBS, Viacom, Disney so forth.. Sirius XM has a 25 million plus radio ecosystem. I think partnering is the only way forward.
    5 Mar, 07:27 PM Reply Like
  • LYogi
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    QNX CAR 2 Is Secretly Revolutionizing The Automotive Technology World

     

    http://bit.ly/1gSPLUT
    5 Mar, 08:43 PM Reply Like
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