Ford invests in F-150 engine production


Ford (F) says it will invest $500M at a plant located in Lima, Ohio.

The facility is set to produce the new V-6 EcoBoost engine for the automaker's F-150 truck.

Sales have been exceptionally strong for the V-6 variety of the F-150 line.

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  • rwbrown.bvf@gmail.com
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    It's interesting to notice where the front license plate is located on all the new
    F-150's that come toward me on the highway. If it's in the middle of the bumper,
    it has a V8. If it's off to the left side, it has the 3.5L Ecoboost, because the
    center of the bumper has a big intake for the intercooler air. My white 2012
    Supercrew(they're everywhere!) was one of the first around here to have the
    twin-turbo V6. It is quiet, economical, flat-out hauls, and has been trouble-free.
    Starting to see a LOT more with the plate on the left! BTW, I recommend the
    18" wheels and the 3:55 electronic limited slip differential. Seems to be optimum
    for acceleration and economy.
    28 Mar 2014, 09:39 AM Reply Like
  • stevethird
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    For the first time I a long time I don't own a single share of Ford. Why the market undervalues this excellent company I don't know but it does and that's just the way it is. Right know it's a just a dividend stock, and truth is there are much better ones. Price ill just wobble unpredictably between 15 and 15.50 no matter how good the news is.
    28 Mar 2014, 09:48 AM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    At a forward P/E of 11.21, Ford is hardly undervalued. Ford's 2014 earnings are estimated at just $1.34, based on Ford's guidance regarding new product launch costs, and that is down more that 50 cents from where it was supposed to be just 4 months ago. That 50 cent drop has naturally dropped the share value by $5.

     

    Be thankful that Ford has not dropped to the floor P/E of 10 at a price of $13.40 or so. Unless you are looking to buy. And be thankful that Ford was good enough to tell the truth of the matter, months in advance, rather than just letting the events unfold in time without warning.

     

    But if this is not the sort of Company that you would want to invest your fortunes in, then by all means find another. Tesla is still looking for people to buy high.
    29 Mar 2014, 07:54 PM Reply Like
  • billsmith41
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    I have had Ford stock since I first purchased at $3.00/share. A dividend stock? Really? Insignificant so far. Guess I' ll keep it a little longer though. I like the way Ford has survived and is doing business today.
    28 Mar 2014, 10:47 AM Reply Like
  • lcrupp
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    If Ford really wanted to juice F-Series sales they would put a 3.0 to 3.5 liter turbo-diesel engine in the F-150. I would buy one in a heart-beat.
    28 Mar 2014, 11:06 AM Reply Like
  • ted lujan
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    I have a 1991 manual shift F150 and I love it. Runs like a dream.
    28 Mar 2014, 12:33 PM Reply Like
  • ultraz2
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    All US auto stocks have shown little progress lately. Just went to Ford dealer today. In the early seventies Ford trucks got 10-12 mpg average to date the average depending on the f 150 is, 16,17,18 or 19 mpg. Not much progress in 44 years. It's not just Ford but all small truck manufactures both foreign and domestic. THE MILLEAGE FOR SMALL TRUCKS FLAT OUT STINKS regardless of the manufacture. Any small truck should get 35 mpg combined city and highway NOT 16,17,18 or 19. And then they want you to pay 35,000 to 50,000 for a new truck. I'm sorry but Ford and the rest of the auto stocks are far too high as it is. And car mileage has few exceptions Ford Focus,Fusion, Toy Preus and Tesla, The reston milage stink. All cars should get at least 50 mpg by now without exception.
    28 Mar 2014, 05:32 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Modern vehicles in general are both bigger and heavier than their counterparts decades ago. So the substantial increases in engine efficiency and aerodynamics etc are to a degree counterbalanced by people's desire for bigger vehicles (today's Civic is larger than 70's Accord), more accessories (standard A/C, automatic, power everything, entertainment, etc) and consumers' and regulators' demands for more safety tech (stiffer stronger structures, airbags, etc)...

     

    As a net result we have not seen the improvements in observed MPG...

     

    In other words, as a whole we consumers have decided to use the improvements in efficiency tech to carry more load instead of actually consuming less energy per mile driven...
    28 Mar 2014, 06:29 PM Reply Like
  • ultraz2
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    Caddys years ago weighed in at 4450 lbs , today's weigh far less. Lincoln was 4450 yrs ago ,I believe Town car is the same weight hog today. If a Fusion can get 43 mpg then the Toyota Corolla, Honda Civic and others can get 43 mpg average .These are not heavy cars. And if you can get 43 mpg average then 50 mpg average is very well with in reach. Price also a problem, I saw Preus stickered at $36,000 +, come on, get serious. A buyer can't save anything on gas if the car they are buying cost twice as much as one that gets half the mileage. In fact they are loosing money,lots of money. Especially if it's financed. Like I said, back in the truck gas hog days 10-12 mpg average was common. Now 44 years later 16 mpg average,17 mpg average,18 mpg average,19 mpg average for a small pickup truck is totally unacceptable. This is 2014 not 1970 when gas 36 to 40 cents a gallon. We are pushing $4.00 a gallon now. A hundred dollars for a truck fill up is absurd. If they want to sell light trucks they will have to dramatically improve the mileage to between 35 mpg average and 40 mpg average and at the same time reduce prices significantly.
    30 Mar 2014, 01:08 AM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    If you mean the old Town Car sedan, that was discontinued in 2011.

     

    Lincoln does badge an MkT Crossover SUV off the same platform as the Ford Flex and Explorer, with the "Town Car" nameplate applied for "livery" taxi and limousines though. Of course, as an SUV, it still weighs around a hefty 4800 pounds.

     

    Weight has a big impact on stop and go mpg in the city, not so much on the highway. The aerodynamic drag has the bigger impact at steady highway speeds, especially above around 50 mph.
    30 Mar 2014, 09:23 AM Reply Like
  • ted lujan
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    The catalysis for Ford is the Aluminum F-150 series. It will break the 40mpg barrier. It's light weight will surely improve it's performance. If it sales well, the stock will also go north.
    30 Mar 2014, 10:32 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Yep, agreed. Aluminum is the #1 reason I took a small position in F a few weeks ago.

     

    Basically betting on the aluminum tech making a splash, first in F-150 and then trickling down to mass market SUVs/CUVs and even passenger vehicles later on this decade. If Ford can make it work, it will be huge. Historically, I like their Ecoboost tech, and Mulally at the helm certainly does not hurt.
    30 Mar 2014, 11:22 PM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    40 mpg seems a bit optimistic, unless you are drafting 2 feet behind one of those armored SWAT team trucks, in which case you might have other issues to deal with.

     

    Hybrid cars barely get past the 40 mpg barrier, and then only when driven correctly.

     

    Anyway 30 mpg is maybe a little closer to reality, although even that seems optimistic considering the roughly 22-23 mpg current benchmark for pickup trucks.
    31 Mar 2014, 06:05 AM Reply Like
  • ted lujan
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    Idot, You are right it is optimistic, but don't think that ford engineers are sitting on their butts drinking coffee all the time. Besides that Eco boost engine is still very new, and a little tweaking will get it there. 30mpg, I'll take that, don't forget that those little battery cars have to carry about 100 pounds worth of batteries that have a tendency to catch on fire.
    31 Mar 2014, 11:12 AM Reply Like
  • Tdot
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    We'll all be waiting for Ford to reveal the EPA-certified numbers once all the independent lab audit tests are completed on production-quality vehicles, probably in the next month or two. Decent possibility there might be some numbers announced with the 1Q results.

     

    The engineers almost certainly know what the numbers "should be", well in advance of everyone else: these things are worked out at the design level, and debated in meetings and demonstrated in laboratories long before committing to the expense of final approval to spend the money and launch the thing.

     

    Meanwhile rumors have it that Ford and Toyota were working together on a hybrid truck engine that would have some EV capability, maybe going after that 40 mpg barrier, but they decided to go their separate ways after a couple of years of copying off each other's notes, which Ford realized wasn't really gaining them anything.

     

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    31 Mar 2014, 12:57 PM Reply Like
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