Apple requests ban on several Samsung devices after patent lawsuit


Apple (AAPL) is seeking a sales ban on nine older models of Samsung (SSNLF) phones after it won a lawsuit which found that the South Korean company infringed on three patents.

Although Apple won $120M of the $2.2B it sought in the case, the tech giant argues that a ban would be more important than monetary damages.

While Apple also infringed one Samsung patent, the latter has yet to pursue a ban on Apple products.

Meanwhile, Apple, along with Adobe (ADBE), Intel (INTC) and Google (GOOG), has confirmed a report that they have agreed to pay $324M to settle claims they limited competition by conspiring not to hire each others' workers.

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  • Gary J
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    The judgements need to be larger. Samsung will continue to just pay the lousy 120M and copy Apple.
    25 May 2014, 07:08 AM Reply Like
  • Anders CT
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    The claim that Samsung copied Apples products and technology was largely rejected by the court. Apple lost the trial. Thats why the judgement was so low.
    25 May 2014, 04:13 PM Reply Like
  • David at Imperial Beach
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    Agreed. There is no way that the court is going to ban Samsung products when they could only document damages of $120M.

     

    Apple management needs to get the message that their patents are not nearly as innovative and valuable as they think they are. Their products depend mostly on the technical innovations of others, and some of the user interface "innovations" they are most proud of they actually copied from others, like Xerox. Most modern high tech companies don't take each other to court over patent violations and Apple needs to get with the program. Sit down at the negotiating table with Samsung and decide on a fair cross-licensing agreement. Bullying others by taking them to court is not a good way to win friends and influence people.

     

    Every time I see Apple in the news for taking Samsung or another competitor to court they are diminished in my eyes. These are not the actions of a company that is confident it can win in the market on its innovations. Instead, it runs for protection like a bully to its daddy when it gets into trouble and expects the court to enforce its aggressions.
    25 May 2014, 08:46 PM Reply Like
  • Yesterdays_news
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    "they could only document damages of $120M"

     

    Not really, there is no way to document the damages! It is "best guess".
    We will never know how many billions in iPhone sales Apple lost with all these Samsung and other knockoffs floating out there. And the very low settlement amount will not deter Samsung and others from flat out copying anything new Apple markets.

     

    Apple needs to get better lawyers. Or out-bribe Samsung!
    26 May 2014, 01:15 PM Reply Like
  • Seppo Sahrakorpi
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    Or, Apple just needs to accept that there actually is no copying of Apple's _technology_ IP going on, at least not at the level that can be enforced in the courts. This whole Apple Innovation going thermonuclear is a dud and myth. Apple might have some legit design claims to make, but on the technology side there is clearly very little enforceable.

     

    Foss Patents:

     

    "Apple, Google dismiss patent suits against each other, settle from position of mutual weakness"
    http://bit.ly/RtlTqR

     

    Cook should just move on, and enter into proper mutual licensing agreement w/ Samsung, w/ some moderate monies flowing to Apple's direction:

     

    "Apple wins $119 million in patent damages from Samsung, wanted $2.2 billion: mixed verdict"

     

    http://bit.ly/RtlVPu
    26 May 2014, 01:26 PM Reply Like
  • Stock Market Mike
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    "Not really, there is no way to document the damages! It is "best guess".
    We will never know how many billions in iPhone sales Apple lost with all these Samsung and other knockoffs floating out there."

     

    Yesterdays_news: Perhaps, none? If your thesis of Samsung phones being junk is how most Apple users feel, and we consider that a large number of new iPhone users migrate from Android phones, then perhaps these buyers are so displeased with their previous phones that they become Apple buyers for life?

     

    In short, perhaps it is boosting Apple's sales instead, and will lead to long term growth?

     

    Perhaps if Samsung phones looked radically different (yet they maintained 80%+ market share), there would be no appeal for iStuff? We've seen it before (for example with cars) where a similar looking cheaper model (which ends up being junk) leads to the step up model being very popular and growing significant market share over time.

     

    I agree with Seppo.

     

    -Mike
    1 Jun 2014, 02:55 PM Reply Like
  • Daniel Hoffman
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    The photos I've seen, rumored to be of the iPhone 6 look, just like Galaxy S4's.
    25 May 2014, 08:28 AM Reply Like
  • Gary J
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    Incorrect. They look like larger iPhones.
    25 May 2014, 08:56 AM Reply Like
  • ebeuu
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    or small iPads; they've got to do someting to stem the tide for larger viewing space and keep the industrial design of Bauhaus captured nicely when iPhone looked and felt different: bringing back the spirit of Steve Jobs.
    been accumulating methodically; so we shall see if the design awards captures the public once again.
    Simplicity and elegance; form and function was a key to Bauhaus and what Steve Jobs captured.
    Why Steve's cars never had a license plate number on his cars and how he did it in California of all places.
    25 May 2014, 11:35 AM Reply Like
  • Yesterdays_news
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    You mean they are cheap plastic like the S4s?
    26 May 2014, 01:16 PM Reply Like
  • szeducate
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    Samsung recently announced they are going to use sapphire glass. What a coincidence, since Apple is coming out with this on their iphones. Samsung has been shown to constantly copy Apple illegally and should be banned. Its the only way to stop them.
    25 May 2014, 08:33 AM Reply Like
  • Anders CT
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    1) Samsung has not been shown to constantly copy Apple illegally. In fact that very claim vas largely rejected in the trial.

     

    2) If and when Samsung and Apple releases handsets with sapphire glass neither will be the first to do so.
    25 May 2014, 04:18 PM Reply Like
  • Yesterdays_news
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    "If and when Samsung and Apple releases handsets with sapphire glass neither will be the first to do so."

     

    Yes, Apple will, since nobody makes sapphire screens that big. Only watches and smart phone camera lens/sensors currently use sapphire.

     

    And it is sort of odd that Samsung is running to GTAT to see if they can buy sapphire screens after Apple paid GTAT for the furnaces and screen R&D work. Samsung needs to hire their own company and do their own sapphire R&D work. Maybe they should use Rubicon Technologies.

     

    http://onforb.es/RtmoRH
    26 May 2014, 01:28 PM Reply Like
  • Anders CT
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    @Yesterdays_news

     

    You are wrong about that. Large sapphire screens for smartphones has been on the market for years.
    27 May 2014, 03:28 AM Reply Like
  • rsbduff@gmail.com
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    Copy Apple Illegally?

     

    I think Apple is probably more innovative than Samsung, but please stop the "cry baby" shrills about one company copying another...."Illegally!"

     

    When you are an innovative leader, you have to expect "copy cats." That is the real world....deal with it......and go on.

     

    RSBDuff
    25 May 2014, 09:44 AM Reply Like
  • kingyoba
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    Please,please,please-If you open up any I phone you will find that the majority of the parts are Samsung. Apple makes great products and you will find that just the opposite is true of most products under the Apple logo.
    25 May 2014, 09:44 AM Reply Like
  • jej
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    "Apple makes great products and you will find that just the opposite is true of most products under the Apple logo."
    Sorry, I just do not understand this statement.
    25 May 2014, 10:11 AM Reply Like
  • Yesterdays_news
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    Best laugh I have had all day!

     

    Apple contracts from Samsung and others. The product specs are Apple's not Samsung, even though they are paid to make the parts.
    26 May 2014, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • kingyoba
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    The insides of your Apple smartphones are made by Samsung. Apple is a Software developer.
    1 Jun 2014, 11:45 AM Reply Like
  • kostasc
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    Coluding to limit hiring of each others employees is very serious. I am amazed Job's reputation does not suffer more for this one.
    25 May 2014, 02:13 PM Reply Like
  • Yesterdays_news
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    And who is the CEO of Samsung??? Enough said.

     

    Job's legacy is more than safe!
    26 May 2014, 01:33 PM Reply Like
  • rsbduff@gmail.com
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    Common practices?

     

    The truth is.....most people in power....collude in one way or another....all the time!
    Why do you think they give the outgoing CEO (fired or not) these "golden parachutes?" It is "shut-up and go away money." That money is always spread out over ten years.....which translates into....."Shut up and go away....and if you tell anyone about our illegal, or immoral activities.....you don't get the money!"

     

    That's the real world that Steve Jobs lived in....

     

    My insight is worth what I charge for it (Apple bulls say less)
    RSBDuff
    25 May 2014, 02:39 PM Reply Like
  • hawk007
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    i am long in appl but you are right in this one!
    25 May 2014, 04:47 PM Reply Like
  • Kistyk
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    RS,

     

    I agree, this happens more than people think. Our company in it's infancy would hire and train people, then a particular pharma company in our area came along and started poaching our highly trained Operators. Our CEO at the time, went to the pharma company and told them to stop (I wasn't privy to all the details). They did, which surprised me at the time. Not after that!
    27 May 2014, 02:55 PM Reply Like
  • kingyoba
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    Apple is good but still fashionware. That is why Americans still suffer in technology.
    1 Jun 2014, 11:47 AM Reply Like
  • Gary J
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    Yes computer science, rocket science, medical science - almost any tech you can think of.

     

    In your fantasyland anyway. lol
    1 Jun 2014, 02:35 PM Reply Like
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