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Canada tries turning up the heat on Obama to approve Keystone

  • With TransCanada's (TRP) Keystone XL pipeline project still stalled, Canada's government moved yesterday to turn up the heat on the Obama administration, as the finance minister, natural resources minister and foreign affairs minister all spent time in the U.S. this week to argue that Pres. Obama has unfairly entangled the project in U.S. politics.
  • Canada's intention is to keep the issue alive with the U.S. public and business, according to Finance Minister Joe Oliver, who says "this isn’t right, this isn’t fair" as he infers that Obama is deliberately delaying approval of the project to assuage environmentalists.
  • The delay "is an affront in no uncertain terms,” and has become the biggest bilateral irritant between the world’s two largest trading partners, Foreign Affairs Minister John Baird says.
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  • User 509088
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    there's a just published study that says there's airborne mercury being given off by the tar sands operations.

     

    airborne mercury falls to the ground and water and accumulates like ddt did in animals and maybe plants for all i know. then it goes up the food chain as predators take prey until the local people, who supplement their larders with game and fish, eat it. mercury leads to nerve damage similar to that experienced by speed freaks.

     

    pulp and paper mills all had to rejig their operations because the mercury in their discharge was giving locals nerve damage. it's called minimata disease.

     

    there's enough tar sands for maybe five years of semi economical extraction. but every study recently has negatively contradicted the previous study about the impact of the tar sands footprint upon the region.

     

    it's an incredible push to complete a pipe that can be supplied for maybe five years for around break even for the tar sand miners.

     

    but isn't the pipe approval tied up by legal disputes concerning expropriation in a particular state? a red state? shouldn't approval wait until the issue is resolved?

     

    how is it an affront? i'd say being poisoned by mercury for the profit of others isn't right or fair.
    12 Jun 2014, 01:05 PM Reply Like
  • Brenton Siddons
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    Because of an international agreement called NAFTA which Canada complied with and why Obama can only stall....and not some unsubstantiated theory
    12 Jun 2014, 02:52 PM Reply Like
  • lorneb
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    user 509088, it would be interesting to see the scientific study behind your claims. Can you supply them please.
    12 Jun 2014, 04:53 PM Reply Like
  • rvshaw
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    5 years...really? I tend to believe management would not be investing billions of dollars for 5 years of production. As good stewards of their shareholders' money, they tend to require a decent ROI for these type of projects. So I tend not to believe a liberal, who couldn't run a lemonade stand, on the economic viability of a multi-billion $$$ investment. And besides, I work for a company that sells product into the tar sands and we've been doing business up there for at least 12 years. Get your facts straight!
    13 Jun 2014, 07:43 AM Reply Like
  • Ryandan
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    Antagonists (aka. Liberals) having been dreaming up excuses for everything (Global Warming, Floating Mercury) for years. Any open pit mine will have air quality concerns, but they rarely amount to anything.

     

    Sorry User-509.... but this country has millions of miles of pipelines with few accidents. Keeping imports out or down from the middle east is far more important than (gay marriage, legal pot, open borders, etc. etc. etc.) You people demand all this self-righteous crap but you're never in line to pay for any of it.
    13 Jun 2014, 08:58 AM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    He is a fear mongering green so I would not be expecting anything of any substance . ;-)
    17 Jun 2014, 02:06 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    If you really want to see sources of air born mercury look no further than coal burning power plants as everything else pales when compared to those.
    17 Jun 2014, 02:08 PM Reply Like
  • yalcocer
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    This is a great deal for both US and Canada. Oil from Alberta is quite different from the one produced in North Dakota. Actually they complement very well to produce optimal blends for refineries. Canada is a more stable and secure supplier than any other country that is sending crude to US right now. Canadian standards and accountability are easier to check and enforce. This deal can increase both US and Canada energy security.
    12 Jun 2014, 01:06 PM Reply Like
  • Topcat
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    How does it help US energy security? It will be refined to gasoline and sold to Europe at much higher prices/profits than can be made in USA. Now, if we would charge a nice tax during the process, THAT money could be used to improve our security.
    12 Jun 2014, 02:18 PM Reply Like
  • lorneb
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    topcat, is that a fact?
    12 Jun 2014, 04:54 PM Reply Like
  • yalcocer
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    Security of supply. Right now US consumes more oil than it produces. By having the pipeline US is diversifying even more the supply. The increasing production from North Dakota is mostly light oil. Refineries are better-off optimizing the crude slates depending on market prices for feed and products.
    I recommend you take a look to the article, "US oil boom drives trade deficit to four-year low":
    http://on.ft.com/1is4O8f
    Having more supply from Canada can also support the case to release controls on US crude oil exports.
    12 Jun 2014, 07:09 PM Reply Like
  • Ruffdog
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    It will replace Venezuelan crude which has about the same composition as tar-sand crude,
    12 Jun 2014, 10:37 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    if you can't see how having a readily available source of oil coming from a source that is not going to turn the taps off and refined product sitting in Texas that could easily be redirected from what ever market it is going to to stay in the USA, then all I got to say to you is Duuuuu!!!###%%%!!. Besides - A lot of the refined product would stay in America and support American jobs anyway.
    17 Jun 2014, 02:11 PM Reply Like
  • phemale60
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    The tar sands oil is meant or China, not the USA, and the jobs are temporary.
    We get all the danger and muck, and Canada and China get the gains.
    12 Jun 2014, 01:16 PM Reply Like
  • King Rat
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    Fine phemale, let Asian countries build refineries for their own oil and then see what happens. Refining of all grades will be done in Asia for less than it can be done in the US and the US will cease to be a refining powerhouse. Nifty.
    12 Jun 2014, 02:23 PM Reply Like
  • dunnhaupt
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    Canadians are polite people. They don't like to point at the real obstacle: Obama's financial backer Warren Buffett who owns the railroad that competes with this pipeline.
    12 Jun 2014, 01:24 PM Reply Like
  • Topcat
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    Obama may be all powerful as some of you claim, but he can't do anything about the court cases being worked through (main one is by PRIVATE landowners whose land is being stolen via eminent domain. A big Tea Party private property rights issue.)
    12 Jun 2014, 02:20 PM Reply Like
  • lorneb
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    Stolen?
    12 Jun 2014, 04:55 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    Your post is "barn yard " material. They have been crying about eminent domain for 50 years! Their is good reason for that law to exist. Its called ability to do business and move product without being blackmailed to death by some narrow minded land owners.
    17 Jun 2014, 02:15 PM Reply Like
  • rvshaw
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    Good luck Canada! Since you don't vote in the U.S., your opinion has no value to King Obama. Now, if you can get your dead relatives registered to vote in any major city, then Obama will be ready to talk.
    12 Jun 2014, 01:32 PM Reply Like
  • Charlie Ponzi
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    It would indeed be interesting if Canada decided to delay or defer purchase of the F-35 Lightning Two, citing the need for further study. It would in effect kill the program by making the cost per aircraft astronomical, due to development costs being allocated over fewer units.

     

    Certainly the U.S. would understand the need for additional analysis.

     

    http://bit.ly/1xPJ1kU
    12 Jun 2014, 03:43 PM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    The cost is already astronomical and for no good reason at that!!!
    17 Jun 2014, 02:17 PM Reply Like
  • DonSimon
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    With the defacto split of Iraq developing before our eyes we should do everything to make North America energy independent and stop antagonizing one of our major friends up north
    16 Jun 2014, 09:30 AM Reply Like
  • marpy
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    The only major friends Obama seen\ms to have are those who are blinded green and those who send money his way.;-)
    17 Jun 2014, 02:18 PM Reply Like
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