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BlackBerry emerges victorious against Typo Products

  • BlackBerry (NASDAQ:BBRY) has once-again emerged victorious against Typo Products, a company co-founded by television personality Ryan Seacrest, after a U.S. court upheld a preliminary injunction which blocked the latter from selling its iPhone keyboard.
  • The preliminary injunction was granted in March, following a complaint filed by BlackBerry which stated that Typo's keyboard likely infringed on its patents.
  • Typo claimed that it did not violate the ruling due to its introduction of a new keyboard model, although U.S. District Judge William Orrick denied Typo's motion, ruling that a "new keyboard isn't grounds for lifting the preliminary injunction."
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  • Crispin_in_Waterloo
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    I don't see how a new keyboard gets around BBRY's patent for keyboard phones. Motorola has to pay royalties to use the idea, why wouldn't typo? Because it is an aftermarket product? Aftermarket means it isn't a keyboard?

     

    The blatant rip-off of BBRY's product is evident in Typo's advertising which promised a 'BlackBerry-like experience'. Good luck with that!
    24 Aug, 10:47 AM Reply Like
  • yo mama
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    how much did apple give him cash hes a crook big one s c
    24 Aug, 04:41 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    Crispin,

     

    Blackberry didn't invent the QWERTY.
    BlackBerry has a patent on an "angular keyboard for a handheld mobile communications device" (not the QWERTY arrangement proper)

     

    " U.S. Patent 8,175,664 is for an "angular keyboard for a handheld mobile communications device". The keys are angled toward the left and right from the center line of the QWERTY. The idea behind the patent was credited to Joseph Hofer, Roman P. Rak and Jason T. Griffin." http://bit.ly/1wprTUI

     

    Here are the key elements from the patent claim (they describe the *smile*)

     

    [each key of said plurality of keys located on the right-hand side of said vertical centerline having a longitudinal axis and said longitudinal axis being oriented at a left-to-right inclined angle from said vertical centerline;
    each key of said plurality of keys located on the left-hand side of said vertical centerline having a longitudinal axis and said longitudinal axis being oriented at a right-to-left inclined angle from said vertical centerline;] http://bit.ly/1wps0jk

     

    so no, it's not any QWERTY that infringes, but you can start getting into trouble when the keys are arranged into the BB Smile.

     

    PS. All dependent claims require claim 1, so the smile is a requirement to make any infringement stick (unless there is another QWERTY patent kicking around somewhere I don't know about.)
    24 Aug, 05:28 PM Reply Like
  • ZarethKnyght
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    I like this kind of factual information. If Typo understands this and develops a keyboard without infringing any copyrights successfully, kudos to them IMO.
    25 Aug, 05:11 AM Reply Like
  • yo mama
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    seacrest is a crook paid by apple
    25 Aug, 08:14 AM Reply Like
  • yo mama
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    A United States Court ruled in favor of BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY) last Saturday in its patent infringement lawsuit over Typo’s keyboards. A preliminary injunction against the sale of Typo’s Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL) iPhone keyboards was granted in March this year after BlackBerry filed a lawsuit with the United States District Court of the Northern District of California claiming that the product infringed on one of BlackBerry’s patents.

     

    Preliminary injunction against Typo still holds

     

    Typo’s keyboard designed to be compatible with Apple Inc. (NASDAQ:AAPL)’s iPhone is the product that is under dispute. Earlier this year, BlackBerry Ltd (NASDAQ:BBRY) filed a lawsuit against the keyboard manufacturer accusing Typo of infringing on the Canadian smartphone maker’s patents and stated that the latter had ripped off its iconic physical QWERTY keyboard. This feature endeared BlackBerry to loyal customers and helped it compete against other giants in the arena such as Apple and Samsung Electronics Co Ltd (KRX:005935). A preliminary injunction was granted in favor of BlackBerry by United States District Judge William Orrick.
    25 Aug, 08:27 AM Reply Like
  • yo mama
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    seacrest works for apple Apple scum copies bb
    25 Aug, 08:28 AM Reply Like
  • gwynfryn
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    Interesting, Mr. K, but why is a keyboard attached to a phone patentable? I'd have thought it one of those outcomes that would be fairly considered as "obvious", and thus disqualified (at least by most European patent offices; I don't know if it's a consideration in the US). Now, if there was a technical difficulty to be overcome (unlikely) and they'd patented a means of achieving that, then I'd understand, but all this, "roundness of corners on a square" (or the slope of the keys...) stuff seems bonkers to me, and just an income generator for the legal professions, which was by no means the original intent of Letters Patent!
    26 Aug, 09:55 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    gwynfryn,

     

    Not all keyboards attached to phones are patentable - because they are obvious. (And yes, here in the US obviousness and inventiveness play a big part in granting a patent.)

     

    IMO the *smile* keyboard like on the BB Bold is sufficiently inventive to quality for a patent, and so BlackBerry should be protected there. But basic QWERTYs like on the Q10 and Passport should not be patentable, and if they were granted a patent, I would think it would be prime target for disqualification based on obviousness.
    26 Aug, 04:24 PM Reply Like
  • gwynfryn
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    I agree, but as for different form factors, wouldn't that be better covered by copyright? After all, changing the shape of something doesn't much alter the way it works, so isn't really an invention, to my way of thinking.
    27 Aug, 10:57 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    I'm not sure what you're asking gwyn, but if you referring to the Passport being a different form-factor, I would go back to my original statement about the Passport not having the *smile* keyboard and therefore (likely) not being patentable/defensible.
    27 Aug, 02:09 PM Reply Like
  • Cliff Hilton
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    Now all those keyboard enthusiasts who currently us an iPhone will just have to settle for second best. Or reach for a cold black Q. And if you can wait, the Passport. BlackBerry, the best of the best.
    24 Aug, 10:56 AM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    Yes, all 27 of them.
    24 Aug, 11:04 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    Cliff,

     

    I should be appreciated that the design and manufacture of a product does not in and of itself indicate desirability or that they will of ever had any meaningful market.

     

    I in fact think the typo was targeting a very narrow niche and was never intended to sell more than a few hundred thousand.
    It's a all plastic and presumably easy to manufacture on demand (should there be demand.)
    24 Aug, 05:34 PM Reply Like
  • Davidoff
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    Cliff,

     

    The huge difference is that when you have an iPhone you can use the regular virtual keyboard or any physical keyboard you want among the other hundreds of models on the market. iOS and Android offer more than 40 different languages, while when you buy a Passport or a Q10 you are stuck with one single language and a huge pain to properly use a corrector for any other language. Virtual keyboards simply answered to the mondialisation constraints that businesses started to face in the 21st century. Claiming or hoping that physical keyboards would be the future, is simply a nonsense. It's easy to assume that today most of the people speak at least 3 foreign languages. With the Chinese, Singaporean and Arabic markets taking crucial places in the World's economy, virtual keyboards are still the main tool for businessmen and that's where the whole Blackberry's marketing arguments fall in pieces. No matter the field you work into, you need to send emails or text messages to foreign clients daily or at least weakly and I'd really love to see you doing that with a Q10!
    24 Aug, 07:32 PM Reply Like
  • Cliff Hilton
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    @Davidoff,

     

    Languages? So all those Asian folks and Germans and Frenchmen, etc, are talking in English.

     

    When's the last time you selected "language" in a Blackberry? There are a bunch my friend. Buy a Blackberry and experience it.
    24 Aug, 10:29 PM Reply Like
  • 6372381
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    David off

     

    You really don't know what you are talking about. Go buy and use any BlackBerry 10 device to know about what the keyboard is capable of.
    24 Aug, 11:29 PM Reply Like
  • whataday222
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    LOL! The largest market for iPhone currently is the US. And the majority of US residence who can afford an iPhone + carrier plan probably speak at most, one language.
    25 Aug, 05:43 AM Reply Like
  • Davidoff
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    Cliff,

     

    Q10 doesn't offer anything else besides the language on its keyboard. Z10 and Z30 obviously do offer other languages on their virtual keyboards, but you were taking about physical in your comment so don't change subject.

     

    Blackberry positioned itself as a business tool, we are not talking about simple consumers, teenagers or any other white trash. Corporate market targets educated and degreed executives who obviously speak something more than English. Obviously, everyone doesn't speak a sufficiently good English in the World to understand you or to do business with you. If you want to sell anything to these "Asian folks and Germans and Frenchmen" you have to speak with them in their own language, especially if we are taking about investment products. Buying stuff is an other deal. Whey do you think that last year Samsung took over 30% of Blackberry's corporate consumers with their Note models? Because Blackberry is the future? Nope. Because Phablets with virtual keyboard are the future.
    25 Aug, 07:27 AM Reply Like
  • ZarethKnyght
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    Funny how the Typo keyboards are only for iPhones apparently. All the Apple fans who kept making fun of a physical keyboard, are some of the people who pay an extra $100 for this >.>
    24 Aug, 10:56 AM Reply Like
  • Wall Street Sleuth
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    Well said.
    24 Aug, 12:57 PM Reply Like
  • Chris Lau
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    This could mark the symbolic turning point for BlackBerry (among other facets of its turnaround). BlackBerry's the only company offering a smartphone with a keyboard. Those who "love their iphone but missed their keyboard" may decide to get a Classic or Passport. There's no replacing actual, physical keyboards over typing on a screen.
    24 Aug, 11:05 AM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    Lol
    24 Aug, 11:52 AM Reply Like
  • Energysystems
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    Yes, because having a physical keyboard has kept BBRY relevant. Oh wait...
    24 Aug, 12:10 PM Reply Like
  • Randal James
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    Chris

     

    Samsung and LG (among others) offer phones with qwerty keyboards. They are available through Amazon but rarely at a typical phone company sales office because... keyboards simply aren't that popular.
    24 Aug, 03:43 PM Reply Like
  • contrarianwise
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    good comment Chris;
    expectations for next Q may want to be lowered; but I think the Dec Q on will really show improvement. lot of improvement now but the numbers ain't quite there yet IMO
    24 Aug, 03:56 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    @Chris, (and your 16 likes, lol)

     

    "BlackBerry's the only company offering a smartphone with a keyboard. "

     

    Are you out of your mind? there are hundreds of non infringing QWERTY keyboard phones. http://tinyurl.com/pto...

     

    Heck, look at this HTC Snap running windows Phone .. it's beautiful and I would take it before even considering a BlackBerry. http://tinyurl.com/m7u...
    24 Aug, 05:41 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    "good comment Chris; "

     

    Haha!
    24 Aug, 05:42 PM Reply Like
  • coolpdx
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    Great news.
    24 Aug, 11:06 AM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    From 5 months ago.
    lol
    24 Aug, 02:14 PM Reply Like
  • ATI nsider
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    You want the best of the best, get a Q10 and/or a upcoming Passport. Simple as that.

     

    The Typo wears out In less than 70hrs. Junk quality.
    24 Aug, 11:15 AM Reply Like
  • mikebator
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    The Classic is exactly what people who slapped this junk on the bottom of an iPhone want but just don't know it yet, that's who Chen fought for. Me I'm going Passport, I already know and love BlackBerry 10, let the others be gracefully ushered in, I am ready for the future now.
    24 Aug, 11:55 AM Reply Like
  • Corey Sommers
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    This is big news as it could lead to incremental royalty revenues.
    24 Aug, 12:01 PM Reply Like
  • Davidoff
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    You're kidding, right? How many of these Typo keyboards have been sold? 1.000-5.000? Talking about royalties....
    24 Aug, 07:38 PM Reply Like
  • ZarethKnyght
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    According to Typo themselves, there were orders of over a million.
    25 Aug, 05:09 AM Reply Like
  • allstar0088
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    Blackberry keeps on winning in court.

     

    http://bit.ly/VJ9pxX
    24 Aug, 12:29 PM Reply Like
  • StormanNorman
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    Ryan Seacrest and company dodged a bullet. They would have lost millions trying to sell 20th century technology just like BBRY.
    24 Aug, 12:31 PM Reply Like
  • bud zeedee
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    And telephone technology is what century's technology?
    24 Aug, 02:55 PM Reply Like
  • Ben Hofstede
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    Somebody should tell Seacreast and his gang that their chinese business conduct doesn't align with USA's laws.
    The most troubling thing is, that they would've never dared to pull off something like this against Apple and/or Google. It's certain that they thought they could pull this off because BBRY had a rough time (at least that was probably their interpretation) and would hesitate to initiate actions against Typo in fear of losing resources in time and money (and probably bad PR).
    This whole "adventure" tells a lot about Seacrest&Co's character. People like this never prevail in business. Sooner or later they always get their thievish hands chopped off.
    24 Aug, 12:38 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    Ben Hofstede,

     

    All Seacrest & Co. need to do is dump the *smile* layout of the keys and their off to the races and BlackBerry can't touch them. http://seekingalpha.co...
    24 Aug, 05:47 PM Reply Like
  • anonymous1234212
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    they're*

     

    ha.. ha... ha... ha
    24 Aug, 09:09 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    I guess BlackBerry longs need to take a win wherever they can.

     

    Good job!
    25 Aug, 12:24 AM Reply Like
  • anonymous1234212
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    Patience is the name of the game. In the mean time, we feed the trolls.
    25 Aug, 10:17 AM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    Deutsche Bank’s Karl Keirstead today reiterates a Buy rating on shares of MobileIron (NASDAQ:MOBL), the maker of software to manage devices inside corporate networks, arguing the company may see a rise in activity as companies ditch BlackBerry (NASDAQ:BBRY) devices in favor of Apple’s (NASDAQ:AAPL) iPhone.

     

    Keirstead alludes to conversations with companies that suggest the release of Apple’s “iOS 8” version of its mobile operating system will close the gap in security with BlackBerry devices, and therefore make Apple’s iPhone and iPad more acceptable to enterprise:

     

    According to our recent checks, the real catalyst for an enterprise move to replace their BlackBerry’s may not be the launch of BES12 and an evaluation of its functionality, but rather the launch of Apple’s iOS 8 operating system, which Apple has indicated is due “in the fall of 2014” and many Apple- watchers believe is coming in September 2014 [...] While much of the media and analyst attention has been on the consumer- focused improvements coming in iOS 8, our attention is squarely on the new enterprise-grade features. Apple itself has flagged expanded data protection and encryption (using the current device passcode to extend data encryption to email and third-party apps), per message S/MIME (allows users to sign and encrypt individual messages), Always-ON VPN (which adds more security), more granular app and document content control (the ability to push or remove docs), new MDM features for IT administrators (setting device names remotely, new MDM queries), new app development features (such as developer access to the Touch ID fingerprint technology) and the removal of AirDrop (which allows users to share files with nearby Apple users).

     

    Keirstead thinks enterprises continue to have concerns about BlackBerry’s stability and lack of apps:

     

    We recently spoke with the mobile IT head at one large enterprise, which is planning a partial migration away from BlackBerry due to three issues, including 1) concerns about BlackBerry’s ongoing ability to invest at scale to support new devices as well as the employee turnover in accounts execs and the engineering ranks, 2) concerns about the app eco-system compared to Apple and the MDM platform compared to pure-plays and 3) end user preference, believing that most employees prefer iPhones (in the 2Q14 data from IDC, BlackBerry garnered just 1.5% share of total unit shipments).

     

    BlackBerry’s forthcoming “BES 12” version of its mobile management software may not prevent companies from moving to MobileIron or Citrix Systems (NASDAQ:CTXS) or another software vendor for device management, he thinks:

     

    This represents a risk to MOBL if BES12 were to have success becoming a multi-OS platform. Until recently, we’ve been under the impression that many enterprises will wait for the BES12 release before deciding whether to whether to upgrade or replace their BlackBerry infrastructures. Now, we’re less sure. More recent customer checks suggest that a migration is inevitable and that at best, BES12 will enable a more orderly transition and may be able to match, but likely not exceed, the MDM functionality offered by rival mobile device platforms.
    25 Aug, 10:27 AM Reply Like
  • Randal James
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    Smart1

     

    Inevitable answers:

     

    Deutsche Bank is just trying to knock the price down so they can load up the truck!

     

    Karl Keirstead is a shill for Apple, just like most anal-ysts.

     

    Just another cog in the anti-Canadian machine.

     

    Talks to One company and makes sweeping generalities that it applies to all. Doesn't he realize that all 16 of the G7 countries use BBRY??? What about Merkel? What about Gordon Ramsey? :)
    25 Aug, 11:24 AM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    Wow, powerful stuff smartone. Good find.
    25 Aug, 01:59 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    lol, Randal :)
    25 Aug, 02:00 PM Reply Like
  • customize
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    BlackBerry should create a short hand court reporting phone that has the look and feel of the Passport for U S court reporting.
    24 Aug, 12:46 PM Reply Like
  • hz06
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    after using Q10 for sometime, i found i can't stand virtual screen any more. reading news or SA is much easier on iphone 5 than on Q10. the Passport will be good for both?
    24 Aug, 12:56 PM Reply Like
  • Fretenac
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    The Passport IS the new APP.......
    24 Aug, 01:44 PM Reply Like
  • contrarianwise
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    outside the box brother, the future is blackberry as a contender and playing a part for sure
    24 Aug, 03:53 PM Reply Like
  • User 19104901
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    I have no problem seeing a BBRY keyboard on an iphone. I see BBRY revenue and great advertising.
    24 Aug, 01:45 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    First off this looks to be really really old news. The injunction was granted back in March and nothing has changed since.

     

    Hmm, this can certainly be looked at from two perspectives.

     

    First the positive:
    1. Blackberry will now receive some portion of the $99 the typo costs.

     

    Now the negative:
    2. Blackberry is struggling mightily to just break even with it's sale of handsets.
    Many who post here say that for them and others it is the Blackberry models
    with keyboard being one of the main reasons they buy Blackberry. Given the popularity of iPhones and the unpopularity of Blackberry phones this could be the final nail-in-coffin for their handset division as people will be likely to gravitate to
    the iPhone 6 with Typo keyboard case as opposed to a Blackberry phone with keyboard.
    Also, couldn't Typo switch to another style keyboard like jellybean style keys?
    24 Aug, 02:03 PM Reply Like
  • allstar0088
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    @smartone7

     

    Congratulations. You are the 1,000th person to proclaim that Blackberry has found the final nail to its coffin. Unfortunately, all have been wrong so far. You obviously did not understand what you read. Go back and read the news item again and then you might realize how silly your idea of iPhones with Typo keyboard cases sounds.
    24 Aug, 02:22 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    What did I post that is silly?
    Be specific.
    24 Aug, 02:38 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    crickets....
    24 Aug, 03:54 PM Reply Like
  • allstar0088
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    Here is a good read on what an injunction means when one is upheld against you. The echo in your head is indicative of its hollow nature.

     

    http://bit.ly/1l64aE7
    24 Aug, 04:03 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    You reply and ignore my asking you to post what exactly is "silly" about my analysis which actually was based on BB not only getting the injunction but winning the case.
    Apparently you have nothing in between your two ears or just as likely you
    have no relative response because you know I am correct in my analysis of
    the situation.
    24 Aug, 04:12 PM Reply Like
  • allstar0088
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    As I read it, the injunction is a court order to Typo to cease sales of its keyboard. Blackberry is not looking to license its patent to third-party vendors. If iPhone users want to use a keyboard, it wont be from Typo. That is why your analysis is so off.
    24 Aug, 04:29 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    If there is a demand they will get around the patent infringement or someone else will make a qwerty type that doesn't infringe that will work with an iPhone.
    Frankly if I were a BB share holder I would hope there isn't much demand for
    an iPhone with keyboard for the reasons I stated in my previous post.
    24 Aug, 04:58 PM Reply Like
  • KIA Investment Research
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    allstar

     

    I just did a google search for: blackberry nail coffin
    and got 444,000 results :)
    24 Aug, 05:50 PM Reply Like
  • allstar0088
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    Damn you Mr. Knowitall. I was trying to make the guy feel special.
    24 Aug, 05:55 PM Reply Like
  • The_C_Man
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    Mr. Kia,

     

    440,000?

     

    They can sell those coffin nails which should be worth something over $100,000.
    24 Aug, 07:38 PM Reply Like
  • xamd
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    Seacrest wasn't too smart. All he had to do was say the patent Blackberry had was "obvious" and shouldn't have been a patent in the first place. That is what Google did to VRNG s patent on search engine patents. The appeals judge threw it out as being "obvious" technology (link below if you need some background). Ben H said it correctly above that they probably thought Blackberry wouldn't fight back. And if it had been Google s technology Seacrest might have had second thoughts. But anyway, how do you get a patent for a physical keyboard? It would seem to me that back in 2004 the idea was just sitting there and obvious, or whatever year the keyboard came out.

     

    http://bit.ly/1l5RYDs

     

    Just to make it clear, I have nothing against this Blackberry ruling but I am bitter about the ruling against VRNG. It just seemed to me that both cases are similar but got decided differently. Oh and VRNGO is not a patent troll company, it is just protecting its patents of its inventors just like Blackberry seems to be doing.
    24 Aug, 02:19 PM Reply Like
  • Ben Hofstede
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    The Patent is not just for a physical keyboard but for the design of the keyboard and the correlation of that design with user-friendliness and it being a key distinguishing and brand recognition feature.
    Following your logic it should be possible to put Apple's apple on your own product because it's just an apple and you can't patent an apple and/or it's display.
    24 Aug, 02:30 PM Reply Like
  • mag1205
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    Good for Blackberry. Any positive news coming in favor before the September earning report is a plus for Blackberry. Long BBRY
    24 Aug, 04:14 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    Unfortunately if BB wins out it will likely help deteriorate their handset sales further which will hurt their earnings report at some point. Does not bode well in the long term.
    24 Aug, 04:16 PM Reply Like
  • contrarianwise
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    long term positive IMO--may very well be the Toyota of smart phones--the future looks brighter than today--all that is necessary
    24 Aug, 05:04 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    Seacrest started Typo Products with entrepreneur Laurence Hallier last year. The iPhone keyboard went on sale in January as an alternative to typing on a touch screen.

     

    The physical keyboards on BlackBerry's phones helped reshape the way that people used mobile devices.

     

    But those phones have been waning in popularity since Apple. released the first iPhone in 2007, threatening BlackBerry's survival. As its losses have mounted, BlackBerry's market value has plummeted from more than $80 billion in 2008 to less than $5 billion today.

     

    The Canadian company is trying to bounce back by focusing more on its software than its smartphones under CEO John Chen, who took charge last year. BlackBerry lost $5.9 billion in its last fiscal year ending March 1.
    ~
    I can't find any numbers anywhere in regard to how many of these things Typo has sold.
    In my opinion if there was a significant demand for this add-on to the iPhone other companies would be making their version sans the Blackberry type keyboard.
    24 Aug, 05:56 PM Reply Like
  • jjtom
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    I can't believe that there would be great demand for a typo keyboard. Would you be so stupid to pay $100 for a plastic POS keyboard that breaks after a few weeks of usage. Have you seen the real thing? It's crap! Hold it in your hand and it feels uncomfortable to type on. The only reason Blackberry took this to court is because that Seacrest was being a knob and taunting Blackberry, so they did like they did with that other clown at At&T and shut them up. Good on them, it just shows Blackberry is not going away anytime soon.
    24 Aug, 07:08 PM Reply Like
  • Gout Attack
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    @smartone7. Your bearish view of Blackberry, which includes a strong commitment towards this view brings a smile to my face and probably a few other faces. It's more like a smerk than a smile. You, like many who know the timeline of Apple's resurgence vs. Blackberry's fall from Grace, lack humility.
    If you think for a minute that Blackberry can't recover and grow again then why bring up what happened 7 years ago? The arrogance surrounding the Apple "coffin nailers" was no different then.
    As far as the Seacrest infringement....why try and one up yourself with a ridiculous claim that it's not bullish for BB? If anything, the publicity this brings regarding keyboard lovers might wake up the small niche that is considering BB's new offerings this September. Remember, Blackberry has several Subs that haven't even upgraded to the newer OS yet. I'm typing this comment on an IPad. Apple works for me. I own a Z30 and will absolutely own a Classic or a Passport by year's end. Blackberry works for me too. Humble up, buddy. You have no idea which nail will go in whose coffin 7 years from now.
    24 Aug, 09:29 PM Reply Like
  • smartone7
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    It's not bullish for Blackberry.
    Apple was never on top and then had a fall from grace so their story is nothing like Blackberry's-in fact it's the antithesis.
    If this keyboard niche was anything more than minuscule other
    companies would have made an after market keyboard for the iPhone
    that didn't infringe on any patents and there would be more keyboard phones to choose from. Instead they sell less and less.
    I have no need to be humble when reality and facts are on my side.
    24 Aug, 09:46 PM Reply Like
  • Truth_Investor
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    Seacrest out! Forget the frankenphone, and get the real deal.
    24 Aug, 09:46 PM Reply Like
  • hz06
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    this typo thing is targeting a niche market, iPhone users who don't like the virtual keyboard. the founder is a genius, he found the shortest cut to be successful in this highly competitive, sorry, throat cutting mobile business in no time.

     

    iPhone users usually choose iPhone because it's a beautiful object with unlimited number of apps. and Apple has been pursuing perfectionism since day 1 for its products to be named the finest consumer products in the world, including the recent move/rumor to change the earphone jack to a Lighting connector (so to eliminate one more hole from iPhone or iPad's nearly perfect body).

     

    if this typo guy ever studied Apple's history, he would probably see Steve Jobs descend in his dream to yell at him with the typical Steve Jobs style profanity: "you stupid f-king a-hole for what justification make my product from the most beautiful to the ugliest one?---"

     

    lmao...
    24 Aug, 11:19 PM Reply Like
  • Zack 800
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    @hz06

     

    I never thought of it that way...funny but true...
    25 Aug, 10:04 AM Reply Like
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