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If consumers want their PCs and mobile devices to sport similar user interfaces, Google (GOOG)...

If consumers want their PCs and mobile devices to sport similar user interfaces, Google (GOOG) might have a problem. While Microsoft (MSFT) is using its Metro UI to bridge Windows 8 and Windows Phone, and Apple (AAPL) is adding iOS elements to Mac OS X, Google's PC OS efforts have gone nowhere. Separately, Steve Wozniak (podcast) praises Nokia's (NOK) Lumia 900, and declares Windows Phone "more beautiful than the other platforms."
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  • obiwan.jacoby@gmail.com
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    I don't know anyone that wants their PC to look like a mobile device
    It is just stupid to dumb down a highly evolved and useful desktop interface to a mobile UI - if someone wants that they will use a mobile device.
    STOP PUSHING THIS computer makers -
    28 Apr 2012, 12:38 PM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    Mobile UI's are touch based; desktops are (and should be) mouse based. Try spending a day reaching across your desk issuing touch commands.

     

    Android is already the world's leading overall mobile platform and growing rapidly. I don't think Google's knees are knocking.
    28 Apr 2012, 01:19 PM Reply Like
  • Whitehawk
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    Seamless integration and synchronization between mobile, tablet, laptop and desktop - that is what many want. No, I don't want my Mac Book Pro 17" to look like the iPhone, and if Apple is not stupid they will allow users to customize ML when it comes out later this year and has greater interoperability with iOS. If they don't do this and screw users, then this is because SJ is really dead (RIP).
    28 Apr 2012, 05:00 PM Reply Like
  • Minnesota_Steve
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    I am sure if Google felt Microsoft had a killer feature in Metro they would just copy it.
    28 Apr 2012, 02:04 PM Reply Like
  • dweebster
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    That's a great endorsement from a very independent guy, who has seen a lot of tech, and invented a lot of tech.
    28 Apr 2012, 02:10 PM Reply Like
  • ilgattogino
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    I hope that Samsung, Google or somebody else decide to buy Nokia so I will see my lost reduced.
    I'm convinced that we are a lot thinking so.
    28 Apr 2012, 02:28 PM Reply Like
  • jperkins
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    obiwan, why would you consider that "dumbing down"? I don't get your analogy.
    28 Apr 2012, 02:43 PM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    Mobile interfaces are intentionally simpler, and necessarily less efficient.

     

    If all you ever do with a computer is surf the web, it may not matter much.

     

    But think about trying to do something complex on a tablet like writing and debugging code, drawing schematics, or even just adding a lot of fancy formatting to a document -- it'd take FOREVER on a tablet OS compared to a simple keyboard and mouse on a desktop or laptop computer with Windows 7 or OSX.

     

    There's only so much time one can spend marveling at the "magical"ness of one's iPad before one realizes that doing more than very basic things simply takes a lot longer than it does on a real computer.

     

    When I have a lot of work to do, the last thing I want is a desktop computer with a touch screen and only one button.

     

    http://onion.com/IySTGl
    28 Apr 2012, 04:24 PM Reply Like
  • IncomeYield
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    That's the brilliance of Jobs. He realized the masses use "telecomm" devices, not "telecomp". They mainly use their computers to communicate, not compute.
    29 Apr 2012, 12:46 AM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    > the masses use "telecomm" devices, not "telecomp".

     

    Sort of. I agree 100% that most people barely use the capacity of their home PCs or Macs. I think there was some study a few years back that said something like 95% of home computer usage was a few basic things:
    - Web
    - Email
    - Media (pictures/movies)
    - Basic documents

     

    And a tablet is fine for this kinds of thing (for consumption, less so for production).

     

    However, touting Jobs' "brilliance" on this is an overstatement, as until just recently, iPads required a PC or Mac to activate and synchronize, so he clearly wasn't going after this "telecomm" market as a primary focus.

     

    And, even for those simple things, the tablet is still less efficient than a real computer, if for no other reason than the keyboard, which is difficult to type quickly on even after a lot of practice. If you read any article on being productive with an iPad, even written by the most fanatical of fanboys, the first step is always to get an external keyboard.

     

    Soon there may be support for a bluetooth or WiFi mouse that can be used for tablets too...basically turning the tablet into a laptop. :)
    29 Apr 2012, 09:43 AM Reply Like
  • Tack
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    D:

     

    Agree.

     

    Tablets (even laptops) are fundamentally for consumption.
    Desktops can consume, but have the key abilities to produce.

     

    Personally, I think the need for seamless operating system similarity between mobile devices and desktops is vastly overblown for two reasons:

     

    1) I can now access anything I want or need on my desktop just fine through the cloud and/or remote-access programs, and Google synchronizes all of it automatically, even now.

     

    2) Because we are vastly consumption-centric, people have little or no need to peruse their own desktops for media unless they're in some infinitesimally-small niche of producing content, which isn't otherwise accessible on the Internet.

     

    Because of the foregoing, I believe any claims that Microsoft, as it attempts to invade the mobile space, poses a major threat to Android will prove unfounded. In fact, I think Windows mobile penetration will be completely ineffectual in slowing down or stopping the Android juggernaut.
    29 Apr 2012, 01:31 PM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    The projected keyboard will be the thing to come out for tablets.
    30 Apr 2012, 06:57 AM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    > The projected keyboard will be the thing to come out for tablets.

     

    You mean like this?
    http://bit.ly/IP7jkO

     

    This type of device has been around for a number of years, but it has yet to gain popularity. The price is perhaps one issue, but this keyboard has the same problem as the tablet keyboard itself: no tactile feedback.
    30 Apr 2012, 07:44 AM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    No, it will be minaturized and integrated into the tablet so when you prop it up, it projects on the table. The rumor of the next iPad having it already exist.
    30 Apr 2012, 08:26 AM Reply Like
  • sreimer77
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    If anyone has seen Corning's visions of the future, Gorilla Glass will become a staple within your home. Countertops, oven tops, Appliance, windows, Mirrors, Glass in your Car will all allow (for those who will pay of course) access to your network. Let's see, oh yeah, Corning makes the LCD glass, throw in an wifi-enabled Intel Chip and all of these exterior devices become part of your living network. So if your in the kitchen and need a recipe, touch the sensor to open access to your network, via a customizable window and boom your done. In the bathroom and need to order more soap, touch the mirror, open a window and speak your order to Amazon. A desk covered with Gorilla Glass with a customizable key pad that can appear when you want it. We do not need a fancy device in any of these situations, just an interconnected operating system that can allow one to access their information across a wide # of shared devices, whether that being your TV, Computer, Appliances, Countertops, bathroom mirrors, your car, Phone, Tablet and whatever else you can dream.
    1 May 2012, 09:24 AM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    Not going to happen in my life time.
    2 May 2012, 03:49 PM Reply Like
  • DeepValueLover
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    The Woz should be Nokia's CEO.

     

    Then I would buy Nokia shares hand over fist!
    28 Apr 2012, 03:58 PM Reply Like
  • Whitehawk
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    Woz is earning every dollar of that salary Apple still pays him
    28 Apr 2012, 04:51 PM Reply Like
  • Yokyok
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    windows phone is unbearable. you couldn't pay me to use it. they are hopelessly lost in some kind of delusional fog.
    28 Apr 2012, 07:33 PM Reply Like
  • IncomeYield
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    Just to risky to deploy anything but iPhone and iPad now. To attempt to knock Apple from the tree would likely bring down anyone that tried it as well.

     

    As many have posted, they wouldn't use anything else even if it were free (or, worse, they were paid to use it).

     

    The smart-phone and smart-tablet segments have been won by Apple. The issue for competitors is the degree to which end-users only really need a smart-phone and smart-tablet.
    29 Apr 2012, 12:52 AM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    BARF!

     

    Are you kidding me? I have a Lumia 900 and wouldn't trade for an iPhone if my life depended on it!

     

    The windows phone is better than iOS hands down.
    30 Apr 2012, 06:58 AM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    Oh give me a break. You don't know what you are talking about. Won? Its barely started.
    30 Apr 2012, 06:59 AM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    > The windows phone is better than iOS hands down.

     

    Speaking strictly about the operating systems...while I've not used a Windows Phone 7 device, I have used Android phones, and I do think that Android is better than iOS.

     

    What's not better is the Android app store. And I hear the Windows Phone app store is even worse.

     

    I keep my iPhone basically because of the apps. Every 6 months or so I poke around the Android market to see if my must-have iOS apps have mature equivalents, and that has never been the case yet.

     

    I have not yet developed any mobile apps personally, but I've read many articles about how developers make much more money with the Apple app store than in the Android market.

     

    To paraphrase a popular slogan of the past: "It's the apps, stupid."

     

    As a user, I can only hope that iOS becomes more like Android and/or WP7, or the development community gets enough carrots to move over to those other platforms.
    30 Apr 2012, 07:48 AM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    The app market is lacking at this point, but do you really expect that to be the case in a few months?
    30 Apr 2012, 08:29 AM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    If you think Android is better then iOS you really need to get your hands on one of these windows phones. Trust me you will love it much more, and requires much less maintenance. My last android was full of utility apps just to keep the stupid thing running.
    2 May 2012, 03:51 PM Reply Like
  • phbanks
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    Integration and synchronizations between mobile, laptop, tablet, desktop IS CLEARLY what is needed. Don't forget gaming (i.e. XBOX) and maybe entertainment system which is the next step for Microsoft and their partners. Sounds a lot like what Apple needs to do for its iTV.

     

    If Apple were driving these initiatives instead of Microsoft , then it would be hailed as genius. Let's see what Apple offers us when their new products come out later this year. Will their new iphone even have 4LTE capabilities?

     

    Apple is increasing showing us that they are not ahead of the curve.
    28 Apr 2012, 07:46 PM Reply Like
  • Slleuthboy
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    Agree with Woz...the Lumia is gorgeous in person. It's sold out at my local AT&T store (they indicated a new shipment will arrive in next 1-2 days) and is the top selling product on Amazon. The blue color (they have some esoteric "fu-fu" name for it...I call it blue) is actually back-ordered. The windows mobile-platform has actually gotten glowing reviews from CNET and many of the other so-called "experts". Give credit where it's due and don't have resort to knee jerk emotional reactions.
    28 Apr 2012, 07:49 PM Reply Like
  • CrazyTexan
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    I dropped my Iphone and bought a Windows phone a few months ago and completely agree with the author - it is a superior operating system and user interface. It just hasn't caught market traction yet, but I believe that will change this fall when Windows 8 comes out. And to have my phone communicate effectively with my desktop is the right direction to head.
    28 Apr 2012, 08:03 PM Reply Like
  • Matthew Davis
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    Had mine for a month...loving it.
    30 Apr 2012, 07:01 AM Reply Like
  • Flander
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    Wozniak clarified in comments to that article that "the Iphone is still my favorite phone."

     

    The original article is on a site called anewdomain.net: http://bit.ly/Km9fQj

     

    And his clarifying comment is below:

     

    Steve Wozniak
    April 27, 2012 at 12:00 am · Reply

     

    Wrong. iPhone is my favorite phone. I did give my opinion that the Windows 7P phone had superior visual appearance and operation cues that were also more attractive. In my opinion, it sets the mark for user interface. I would recommend it over my Android phones given that it doesn’t yet have the breadth of apps. I surmise that Microsoft hired someone from Apple and put money into having a role in the UI and appearance of some key apps. I also surmised that Steve Jobs might have been reincarnated at MS due to a lot of what I see and feel with this phone making me think of a lot of great Apple things.
    28 Apr 2012, 08:19 PM Reply Like
  • SA Editor Eric Jhonsa
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    Thanks for passing this along, it looks like the original article was off. The post has been corrected.
    29 Apr 2012, 11:22 AM Reply Like
  • MSF INVESTMENTS
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    Microsoft in the 50's by 2013.
    29 Apr 2012, 04:07 PM Reply Like
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