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Tim Cook announces Apple's (AAPL) expected MacBook refresh during his keynote at the Worldwide Developers Conference (live blog). New MacBook Pro and Air models sporting Intel (INTC) Ivy Bridge processors are introduced, including a $2,199, 15.4" MacBook Pro featuring a retina display with a 2880x1880 resolution. Nvidia (NVDA +4.1%) is rallying on news that the 15" Pro models (retina display or otherwise) will contain the company's graphics processors (previous).
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  • Paulo Santos
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    Funny, the nVidia news were known for quite a while, I had even written on it:

     

    Nvidia Shooting At A Moving Target
    http://seekingalpha.co...
    11 Jun 2012, 01:42 PM Reply Like
  • Lake Investor
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    Yes you did. Any news on whether the smaller macbook pro and air models will contain Nvidia graphics chips?
    11 Jun 2012, 01:52 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    I'd bet that if they include any discrete GPU, it would be nVidia. Apple likes to keep things simple.
    11 Jun 2012, 02:09 PM Reply Like
  • J.D. Welch
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    I suspect that with Intel's new Ivy Bridge processors, the 13" model and the Air may not have a discrete graphics chips, as the Ivy Bridge graphics are so spankin' good. I can see the nVidia in the higher end machine. Looks like AMD is the big looser, if that's the case, as it was their graphics chips in some of the MBP models previously, wasn't it?
    11 Jun 2012, 02:30 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    YEs. Regarding nVidia, I'd guess it depends on whether the models come with retina displays, those might take more than the Ivy Bridge can provide at this point.
    11 Jun 2012, 03:07 PM Reply Like
  • J.D. Welch
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    I would agree with you there, I don't think the Ivy Bridge graphics can effectively drive a retina display. The way I read the announcement, only the 15" (and I'm assuming the 17", if they're still making it) would get the retina displays. But I could be wrong...
    11 Jun 2012, 03:12 PM Reply Like
  • Yokyok
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    just what everybody needs.. a $2200 "austerity" laptop.
    11 Jun 2012, 01:59 PM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    Configurable up to $3750. :)
    11 Jun 2012, 10:31 PM Reply Like
  • madness1089
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    2200 for the 15 inch model? That's quite steep!! I thought they were going to keep the old price tag....
    11 Jun 2012, 02:10 PM Reply Like
  • no one really
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    They did, With a spinning hd and the old display/form factor.

     

    The $2200 is for a retina display and a 256gb ssd.
    11 Jun 2012, 06:08 PM Reply Like
  • into dark shadows
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    $2200 for a freakin' laptop?

     

    Shove it where you have your brains pal!

     

    This is insane,
    who the hell can afford another $2200 for something they already own?
    Oh yeah, forgive me,
    Gene Munster and the rest of the so called fanboys!

     

    Just how many of us normal people are going to go run out with a months rent to buy a craptop!
    Not many I would bet!

     

    You wont even need to short Apple, when the masses wise up and start to take profits out of this MEGA BUBBLE unto itself, look out below!

     

    Apple is no different than any other stock,
    it will revert to the means,
    and don't give me the bull crap of its so cheap on a p/e ratio!

     

    We are not in and have not been in a free market system for 4 years now, the NORMAL metrics don't work in this Twilight Zone, fed induced market nightmare!
    11 Jun 2012, 02:36 PM Reply Like
  • kmi
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    That's the high end. There are cheaper models.
    11 Jun 2012, 02:49 PM Reply Like
  • madness1089
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    In fairness, the new Airs are a perfectly stellar laptop for 1000-1100.
    11 Jun 2012, 03:21 PM Reply Like
  • Senticar
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    2200 is for the MacBook Pro WITH RETINA DISPLAY. Pleas edo some research/reading before you spew your complaints. The regular macbook pros have normal price tags.
    11 Jun 2012, 04:21 PM Reply Like
  • mostserene1
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    So, I can't buy a Ferrari because I already own a Porsche 911 GT3?

     

    I have a Mac Book Air and will definitely buy the new MacPro with retinal display. Geez, I guess I better cash in some more food stamps......no, wait, my mREITs are about to pay out divvies!
    11 Jun 2012, 04:25 PM Reply Like
  • no one really
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    Check out the price difference between similarly configured (256gb ssd, 8gig ram) old 15" mbps, and one with the new retina display.

     

    The old 15" is more expensive, by $200. Granted, that's one expensive ssd, but Even if you go to newegg and do reasonable aftermarket parts, the new Retina display is only $50 or so more than the old display.

     

    It's also a good few hundred less than the 2.4 ghz 17" machine that's no longer being sold.

     

    I bet that in 2 years, you're not going to see normal res displays on mac laptops. And in that time, it might get somewhat possible to get them in non-mac laptops.

     

    What you see now is the puck moving away from where the ultrabook mfgs were skating to.
    11 Jun 2012, 06:05 PM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    > the new Airs are a perfectly stellar laptop for 1000-1100

     

    Sort of. You can get comparable PC ultrabooks for ~$800. Apple must be slipping, I can usually find a 30% cheaper PC in just a couple minutes. :)

     

    And of course, you can find bulkier but otherwise comparable models for much, much less.

     

    I am sorry, but for the computing needs of 85% of the U.S. population, there is simply no sensible cost/benefit advantage to a Mac.

     

    That said, if you can afford it, why not? It's thin, it's light, and most importantly, it's cool-looking and shiny. :)
    11 Jun 2012, 10:41 PM Reply Like
  • flumeride
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    Whenever someone gets to whining about prices they forget that what you get with a windows machine is still missing software that you know you are going to buy. For example you have to buy the anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-other malware software, and you get to update it every year. If you do catch a virus, good luck removing it and getting things back in order. If you use it for business you probably have to buy MS Office at an exorbitant price. At this point you have probably could have bought a Mac. Of course if you buy a Mac for business you might have to buy MS Office, but you might be fine with iWork for a fraction of the price of Office.

     

    Still there is something else that is worth any extra cost to me. That is that the Mac just works. Buy a new printer, plug it in and it works. No screwing around with drivers. You usually don't even need to use the disk that comes with the printer. Same thing for cameras.

     

    So if you just like to fool around with stuff on your computer, buy a windows machine and it will keep you busy.
    12 Jun 2012, 02:41 AM Reply Like
  • D_Virginia
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    > you have to buy the anti-virus, anti-spyware, anti-other malware

     

    Apple has been recommending antivirus software for macs since 2008. :)
    http://cnet.co/NuXmxC

     

    And most people these days agree that Microsoft Security Essentials is more than sufficient for PCs, and is free:
    http://bit.ly/Oq5AVI

     

    > If you use it for business you probably have to buy MS Office
    > at an exorbitant price

     

    Unless you use a mac for business, in which case you have to buy the mac version of MS Office for the same exorbitant price, except it's a version or two behind. :)

     

    People like you are still living in 1993 -- the days of fussing with autoexec.bat and config.sys files to get your PC to behave. These days you can plug any reputable hardware into a USB port and Windows 7 automatically fetches drivers for it and, surprise, it "just works."

     

    Live in the now. Macs give most basic users far more hardware and software than they'll ever need (and yet is /still/ missing some common things), all at a premium they don't need to pay.

     

    It is virtually a crime to recommend a mac to anyone on a tight budget.

     

    But again, for those who can splurge, go ahead and rock that Apple logo. :)
    12 Jun 2012, 07:24 AM Reply Like
  • Charles Santerre
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    flumeride: you are misinformed. Every windows 7 computer comes with office starter, that is free word and excel. Also you can get if you choose the free Microsoft Security Essentials, i..e free antivirus and antispyware. Concerning your drivers comment, windows will carry the most popular drivers built in for basic printers, but if you have those all in ones, you probably want the full software that came on the cd to get all the features. The same is true for Mac drivers.
    12 Jun 2012, 10:54 AM Reply Like
  • Rbongni
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    " no sensible cost/benefit advantage to a Mac."

     

    Have you checked the resale value of Apple products on eBay? You easily make up the premium you pay for the products by reselling them when you buy the new version.
    12 Jun 2012, 06:25 PM Reply Like
  • flumeride
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    D_Virginia: I'm living in 2006 for Windows, not 1993. It was 2006 that I had a PC virus which took several hours to fix using Norton. It was after that event I decided to go with a iMac. I've had the same machine ever since. I am going to buy a new model when they refresh the iMac. However, I can say that in 6 years I've never had a virus. I leave my computer running 24/7 and it still runs fine. It hasn't slowed or acted funny. Last year I did buy an antivirus program, but it has never detected a virus or other malware. I've upgraded the original OS and it was cheap and the update was clean and flawless. The hard disk died earlier this year. I swapped out the hard drive and used Time Machine to recover. It worked like a champ and I was able to recover all my documents, photo's and music. All I can tell you is I've owned PC's since the 80's and never had one last with out issues longer than 3 years. When I get the new mac, this one will be available for house guests.
    13 Jun 2012, 06:08 PM Reply Like
  • Estimated Profit
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    @ into dark shadows Apples profit margins and retail store traffic says otherwise. A lot of people will pay a premium for a superior product that "just works." People may stop paying premium prices for laptops but apple will not lower their standards and offer an unpolished product. I think the "Craptop" you are referring to are the 500 "competitor" models. Notice they are all the companies that are struggling. Apple knows their consumers.

     

    Disclosure: no position in AAPL.
    11 Jun 2012, 02:43 PM Reply Like
  • nyuszika45
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    Sorry, "into", but didn't we hear almost the same prior to the tablet introduction? And that failed, right?

     

    Never underestimate the desire of the monetarily flush or wanna-be's to sport something that sparks envy elsewhere, irrespective of what anyone may think of its value.

     

    After all, but only in my humble opinion, vehicles are generally [though not totally] becoming uglier every year [as opposed to some of the runner classics on the market] but are they bought? Not only are they bought, but many are touted as "design excellence", a sure bet euphemism for "ugly as sin"; but what do I know?
    11 Jun 2012, 02:50 PM Reply Like
  • smart_investoor
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    $2200+tax no way i'm buying
    11 Jun 2012, 03:09 PM Reply Like
  • Senticar
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    You do understand that the $2200 model is for people doing high-end video processing and other functions that are extremely taxing on processor power, right? The everyday user would be perfectly happy with the 13 inch air with 8gb ram at $1400 after tax. EXTREMELY comparable to the prices you'll be seeing during the "ultrabook revolution"
    11 Jun 2012, 04:23 PM Reply Like
  • J.D. Welch
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    Ultrabooks are starting to look more and more attractive... Let's see what Windows 8 brings, but lots of buzz out of Computex last week on the Ultrabooks/hybrids/tab...
    11 Jun 2012, 03:16 PM Reply Like
  • who?
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    Life is to short for windows.

     

    ctrl alt del...
    11 Jun 2012, 05:08 PM Reply Like
  • flumeride
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    Windows 8 will bring lots of bugs.
    12 Jun 2012, 02:43 AM Reply Like
  • J.D. Welch
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    "Windows 8 will bring lots of bugs."

     

    Why do you say that? Windows 7 didn't "bring lots of bugs". At least, that was my experience with both my work machine and my wife's laptop and the desktop I bought for the house/kids. As was pointed out above, I think you're living in the past. Time to get over the Microsoft hate...
    12 Jun 2012, 11:04 AM Reply Like
  • ManoLive
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    I want to get into the Apple ecosystem. Let's see how much it will cost: 2 new Macbook Pros for me and my wife, $4,400.00, 2 new IPads, $1,500.00, 2 new IPhones $800.00. Add in taxes and you're up around $7400.00. That's about 13 shares of Apple stock. That's a lot of cash for the privilege and status of being a captive Apple user.

     

    But hey, at least I'd save all that money on anti virus programs, right? Speaking of that, I need to go buy some Norton for 3 more PC computers in my office, as my Avast is expiring.

     

    Can't wait to outfit my home with the new Apple TV's. There goes another $8,000.00 down the Apple drain. But unless they can work with DirecTV to get the sports packages (displaced Midwesterner here), I won't be buying an Apple TV until they do.

     

    My wife may just have to wait for her new toys. Sorry, honey.
    11 Jun 2012, 03:30 PM Reply Like
  • Paulo Santos
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    ManoLive, why not rely on Microsoft Essentials? it's free, doesn't seem to overtax the computer and I, at least, haven't had any complaint with it.
    11 Jun 2012, 03:35 PM Reply Like
  • ManoLive
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    I will look into it, Paulo. Thanks for the input. I do want to get a Mac, though.
    11 Jun 2012, 05:11 PM Reply Like
  • realornot
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    so in order to use your new mac book, I just need your eyes!

     

    no need for that $2200!
    11 Jun 2012, 06:26 PM Reply Like
  • realornot
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    15-inch: 2.6 GHz Retina display

     

    2.6GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
    Turbo Boost up to 3.6GHz
    8GB 1600MHz memory
    512GB flash storage1
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
    Built-in battery (7 hours)2

     

    Ships: 7-10 business days
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    $2,799.00

     

    15-inch: 2.3 GHz Retina display

     

    2.3GHz quad-core Intel Core i7
    Turbo Boost up to 3.3GHz
    8GB 1600MHz memory
    256GB flash storage1
    Intel HD Graphics 4000
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory
    Built-in battery (7 hours)2

     

    Ships: 7-10 business days
    Free Shipping
    $2,199.00
    11 Jun 2012, 06:38 PM Reply Like
  • kingyoba
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    Intel is already using minimal retina display security devices on some of the levnovo models.
    12 Jun 2012, 08:45 AM Reply Like
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