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Apple (AAPL) won't include a YouTube (GOOG) app with iOS 6 - users will have to download an app...

Apple (AAPL) won't include a YouTube (GOOG) app with iOS 6 - users will have to download an app from the App Store. No details have been given on the reason for the move, which follows Apple's decision to drop Google Maps in favor of a proprietary mapping solution. YouTube and its short-form content have proven extremely popular on mobile devices.
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  • GaltMachine
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    Even when you are imprisoned in the world's most beautiful walled garden, you still remain a prisoner and subject to the whims of your warden :)

     

    AAPLbots you are free to attack now ;)
    6 Aug 2012, 03:08 PM Reply Like
  • bmwr1200c
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    big deal how hard it is to download an App
    6 Aug 2012, 03:13 PM Reply Like
  • lucnj
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    you know, i love Apple products but I really think sometimes they are dumb heads and we are stupid cause they do whatever they want to do regardless to what users think.
    Apple does not allow for Adobe Flash but have not provided a solution, at least that i know.
    Apple cut google maps but their solution is lousy.
    Now they exclude preloaded youtube but include preloaded horrible facebook.
    Go figure!
    6 Aug 2012, 03:20 PM Reply Like
  • esp211
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    Can't you just buy an app that runs Flash? I have no idea what people use Flash for. Even on my home/work desktops I have Flash disabled and can't remember the last time I had to enable it for something.

     

    How do you know iOS Maps will be lousy? Have you used it? How about reserving your judgement until you actually see it?
    6 Aug 2012, 03:32 PM Reply Like
  • bmwr1200c
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    ever heard of something called HTML5
    6 Aug 2012, 03:47 PM Reply Like
  • Herr Hansa
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    Apple iOS maps are licensed from TomTom. The maps on BlackBerry smartphones also are licensed from TomTom. While I do use a BlackBerry, I greatly prefer to use Google Maps on it.
    6 Aug 2012, 04:50 PM Reply Like
  • GSlusher
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    @lucnj:

     

    "Apple does not allow for Adobe Flash but have not provided a solution, at least that i know."

     

    First, you are aware that Adobe has ceased development of flash for mobile devices, aren't you? They won't allow it to be downloaded after some date. If another company wants to make a mobile viewer for Flash, fine, but not with Adobe's blessing and it could be broken at any moment.

     

    "Apple cut google maps but their solution is lousy."

     

    How so? Have you actually tried the new maps? If you haven't, you're lying.

     

    "Now they exclude preloaded youtube but include preloaded horrible facebook."

     

    No, iOS doesn't include "preloaded" facebook. Facebook can make its own app, just as Google can make its own YouTube app. (You can bet that Google is working on it, as it will let them make more money.)

     

    @esp211:

     

    Flash can't run on any iOS device.
    6 Aug 2012, 05:01 PM Reply Like
  • jebworks
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    Running iOS 6 and the YouTube app is still there and working!
    6 Aug 2012, 03:40 PM Reply Like
  • aperture1
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    If iOS maps is lousy Apple would soon be in trouble. I am 99% certain it will be a terrific product, much better than the excellent Google maps. If it isn't Apple would get a very black eye.

     

    Apple now views Google as a strong competitor (remember Schmidt was on Apple's Board and was privy to everything Apple was doing. After seeing the iPhone plans Google went ahead to develop a competitive product.)
    6 Aug 2012, 03:44 PM Reply Like
  • esp211
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    Why would Apple be in trouble because of an app? Either way I'm sure they can roll out a better app than Google maps that hasn't changed since 2007. Besides, users have a choice from 100s of navigation apps that are free and paid. I currently use Waze, which delivers user reported real time traffic reports. Every time I am stuck in traffic, I fire up the app to see what is going on ahead of me. The app integrates perfectly with turn-by-turn directions and traffic warnings (police, accident, etc) coming through the car stereo system. If the new iOS map does something similar then it will be a huge win for Apple.
    6 Aug 2012, 03:55 PM Reply Like
  • aperture1
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    Google maps is a popular and heavily used app on the iPhone. If it is replaced by something that doesn't work as well it will become very big news that will tarnish Apple's reputation for quality. That was simply my point. I don't think the replacement app will be poor, I think it will be better than Google maps.

     

    For example, if the maps are not accurate or if the app runs too slow or the search for businesses isn't as good, that will be bad news.

     

    Thanks for the tip on WAZE. I will try it.
    7 Aug 2012, 10:17 AM Reply Like
  • DanoX
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    Upon release iOS maps will be better than Google Maps in functionally, and in one years time it will be better beyond any doubt over anything Google does. Google are the masters of betaware (see the Q), Apple had 8 times the profit of Google in the last quarter. You can be sure Google and Samsung didn't miss that number, nor will they miss iOS 6.
    6 Aug 2012, 04:02 PM Reply Like
  • eh.geee@gmail
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    I've been a one-eyed Apple supporter since the 80's and my spirits rise and fall with the highs and lows of the company.

     

    This nonsense with Apple trying to succeed by litigation and sneaky tricks is too much like Microsoft of the 80's and 90's.

     

    I've been always in long/short AAPL, BIDU, GOOG, and IBM since the mid 90's or since their IPO. Of the four, AAPL is the ticker that's at the high of its all time range and shows least potential to forge higher.
    6 Aug 2012, 04:15 PM Reply Like
  • MICHAELIRISH131
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    Harmony across a hundred devices or told just buy one. Henry Ford.. "you can have it in any color as long as its black".
    6 Aug 2012, 04:39 PM Reply Like
  • GSlusher
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    "No details have been given on the reason for the move,"

     

    Apparently, there have been. Perhaps this reporter didn't bother to check various sources. John Gruber on Daring Fireball links to an article on TheNextWeb:

     

    http://tnw.co/OZKZdM

     

    Turns out that this could make Google more money, as it will allow them to show ads that they couldn't with the native iOS app. For users, it will allow Google to update the YouTube app more quickly.
    6 Aug 2012, 04:55 PM Reply Like
  • berylrb
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    Yeah, this thread got off to a little false start, but the article itself opens the door to imply that Apple may have nothing to do with the exit of YouTube for iOS6 - the license expired peeps. There's many reasons why both Apple and Google are tight lipped as to why no renewal, and each equally have many reasons to keep the reason in their pocket.

     

    Also, the original "leak" of this info, Engadget posted on their website as a follow-up, "Engadget has also heard from Apple and learned that while iOS 6 devices will lose the stock YouTube app, iOS 5 devices will not."

     

    This leads me to believe that it's more on Google's side, especially given the fact that the YouTube app is still available at the AppStore.

     

    Non-event here. More behind the scenes Google/Apple drama, that's just business folks.
    6 Aug 2012, 05:02 PM Reply Like
  • esp211
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    Now it's being reported that Google pulled the plug since they can offer ads through the app store. Does Apple get a 30% cut on that? Would be awesome if they do.

     

    I think Google and Apple are starting to sever ties: new Chrome app, and now Maps, Youtube, Google Search bar on Safari next? I like it though since competition means better products.
    6 Aug 2012, 05:31 PM Reply Like
  • DanoX
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    Apple not giving Google any money, that's what's up. first, maps, you(boob)tube, then search.
    6 Aug 2012, 06:00 PM Reply Like
  • DanoX
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    Google was making close to 40% of their mobile income off of Apple iOS but not anymore. Wall street isn't paying much attention to the vanished revenue from the lost of maps on iOS, and the increasing losses at Motorola soon to be one billion a year.
    6 Aug 2012, 06:15 PM Reply Like
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