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Nearly 75% of Americans oppose Obama's ban on deepwater drilling in the Gulf, viewing the BP...

Nearly 75% of Americans oppose Obama's ban on deepwater drilling in the Gulf, viewing the BP spill as a "freak accident" rather than the result of pushing the energy exploration envelope to find cheap oil, according to a Bloomberg poll.  The general perception: "If there’s a plane crash, you don’t ground all the airlines and stop flying completely.”
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  • AxiosCap
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    When are people going to recognize that he knows what he's doing? This is all a push to demonize fossil fuels and push cap and trade. His idea of change is to make us East Germany or Cuba.
    15 Jul 2010, 10:43 AM Reply Like
  • OptionManiac
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    And if there was no stop to the drilling and there was another leak? People would turn around a scream bloody murder that the gov't did not stop the drilling. This was no freak accident, the workers on the rig saw it coming. Corners were cut - the bottom line became more important than safety. And yes, gov't inspectors were complicit.
    15 Jul 2010, 10:49 AM Reply Like
  • Cincinnatus
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    What historical evidence do you have to show that this is anything but a rare event? It's insane to keep the moratorium in place, and Obama knows this, but he's got an agenda (cap and trade) that has nothing to do preventing a repeat spill.
    15 Jul 2010, 10:55 AM Reply Like
  • montanamark
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    so you are saying these type of accidents happen all the time???
    they have been drilling in GOM for 60 years.
    there is NO excuse or rationale to ban ALL drilling - none.
    why not ban all cars if there is an accident or toyota recall
    why not ban all air flight if there is one crash.
    obama is hellbent on pitching crap and tax
    15 Jul 2010, 11:39 AM Reply Like
  • OptionManiac
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    Never said they happen all the time - never said a complete moratorium was the right thing to do. But, BP is to blame for the spill - it was not an accident - they were informed by the workers on the site of the dangers, managers were shown pieces of a broken gasket that was part of the blow off preventer, yet nothing was done. So, business as usual? What would you do?
    15 Jul 2010, 11:52 AM Reply Like
  • Tom Au, CFA
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    There does appear to be a hidden agenda.
    15 Jul 2010, 12:06 PM Reply Like
  • montanamark
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    sorry to burst your bubble but obama knew about this well and with his energy sec. fast-tracked the project including waiving some safety checks. see oilprice.com madsen piece and articles from houston chron.
    15 Jul 2010, 12:07 PM Reply Like
  • AxiosCap
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    @OptionManiac - Ridiculous. This is one - literally ONE - leak out of all of those offshore wells. Granted it's bad, but people act like BP went out there like SPECTRE from a James Bond movie. Just silly. So, what's happening now is this administration is taking a bad situation and making it worse - all to push their Marxist redistributionist policies.
    15 Jul 2010, 12:26 PM Reply Like
  • zorrow
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    They're Marxists, man, totally insane to stop the drilling. They're trying to turn us into East Germany or Cuba, man. We got to fight the power. Trying to cram their pitch and crap tax down our throat, man. These sycopahnts and Obama lovers are just trying to move their agenda, man. Ever heard of Venezuela? Castro's prisons? The government is trying to starve us. I can't breathe, man. The Oconomy is choking me. Thank Jesus for the Teaparty, man. They're the only ones who get it. Atlas is standing on his head. Know what I mean?
    15 Jul 2010, 01:01 PM Reply Like
  • OptionManiac
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    Oh, I agree with you, but BP has had a terrible reputation when it comes to cutting corners. I'll say it again, I don't agree with shutting down all the wells, just clamping down on existing regulations - no cozy in bed with inspectors and oil rig owners, trust me, I am in the wine business and when TTB comes in to inspect our hands start shaking wondering what little details we have overlooked. Keeps us honest. And man, if you think this administration is Marxist - thank God you weren't around when Roosevelt was president, you would have thought an Uber Fidal Castro was president.
    15 Jul 2010, 01:25 PM Reply Like
  • Cincinnatus
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    Zorrow, the irony is you come closest to describing reality when you're trying to be facetious. Good post on this one, albeit unintended.
    15 Jul 2010, 04:20 PM Reply Like
  • zorrow
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    Its my new Perseus and Medusa strategy. Well I guess my strategy is not that new after all.
    15 Jul 2010, 04:59 PM Reply Like
  • Trader14
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    I am sorry but the plane crash analogy is a terrible one. If a plane crashed and then burned for months killing everything in a wide radius while airlines couldn't figure out how to put out the fire then I would say "yes", you ban flying the that type of plane, until airlines prove they could put out the fire much more quickly next time.
    15 Jul 2010, 10:44 AM Reply Like
  • Trader14
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    In response to my own post, I want to point out that I am not saying that an outright ban is the correct move, simply that the airplane an analogy is very poor one that people seem eager to run with. I do think it's ironic that the first person that they quote as being opposed to the ban on deepwater drilling lives in a town called "Mountaintop". As someone who grew up on living on the ocean I can assume that the poll results would skew much differently if they had polled in just coastal cities.
    15 Jul 2010, 10:54 AM Reply Like
  • Cincinnatus
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    If your proximity argument holds true, then wouldn't the ban be much more popular in the Gulf states than farther away from the Gulf? The fact is the opposite is true. It's the coastal communities that are far more opposed to this. They know it's not making the Gulf safer, and it's killing their economies in the long-term. These rigs exiting the Gulf aren't coming back for years.

     

    The re-evaluation of the rigs should have already been completed, and the regulations are already in place and just need to be followed. There's nothing the moratorium is meant to accomplish other than to blackmail the Gulf states to support cap and trade.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:16 AM Reply Like
  • jpiretti
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    If the FAA had allowed a carrier to trade route rights for sex and drugs and also allowed that carrier to fill out it's own FAA safety reports (from 2005-6 IG's report), you might want to re-consider the license of that carrier or even the entire saftey/oversite structure.
    Also keep in mind that the moratorium only applies to new drilling, not existing platforms.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:23 AM Reply Like
  • Cincinnatus
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    Already been considered, and done. Is your point the Obama administration is a farce and the can't be trusted to have done it right? Wouldn't surprise me in the least, but then the solution you seek isn't going to come from the government. None of this has anything to do with safety, it's about bringing on the pain as leverage for pushing cap and tax through.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:37 AM Reply Like
  • montanamark
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    trader you completely miss the point. the analogy is not the event, it is the reaction or over reaction. obama s dictatorial, complete mortatorium is defenseless.
    15 Jul 2010, 12:02 PM Reply Like
  • ConstantLearner
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    It is a bad analogy whether you agree or disagree with the drilling ban. The FAA has grounded an entire fleet in the past after a plane crash. For example after a DC-10 crash in 1979 at O'Hare:

     

    "To ensure no further tragedies, the FAA grounded all DC-10s. Some said this was an overreaction, but during the ensuing inspections, at least six more DC-10s were found to have similar damage (four were American Airlines and the other two belonged to Continental). It was also revealed that two further Continental (which had also adopted the AA procedure) DC-10s had been damaged before the Chicago accident, but the mechanics noticed the problems and repaired them."

     

    (www.super70s.com/super...)

     

    I personally think the ban is overkill, but the plane crash analogy is a bad one.

     

    You would think they've had enough time to do a thorough review of existing platforms and identify any specific 'risky' operations. They could temporarily halt those operations while additional safety measures are implemented and let the rest continue operating. I think it's been fairly well-documented what went wrong (it was not a freak accident, but a series of poor decisions made by many parties).
    15 Jul 2010, 12:21 PM Reply Like
  • Tom Au, CFA
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    "A plague on both their houses." (BP and the government.)
    15 Jul 2010, 03:53 PM Reply Like
  • tripleblack
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    Regime Logic 101: If you fall off the horse, shoot the horse, and then call a press conference to declare a dire crisis involving the danger of horseback riding, and your new policy establishing a department of government devoted solely to regulating horse-use.

     

    Next abuse your power as the Federal Regime and coerce the horse's owner to liquidate most of his property and give you the proceeds to establish a slush fund you will manage for the benefit of trial lawyers everywhere.

     

    While waiting for the new department to be established, ban all horseback riding until a full slate of government regulations can be created and installed.

     

    If horse-fanciers everywhere take you to federal court over the ban, and you lose, impose a new ban on ALL human-horse contact.
    15 Jul 2010, 10:50 AM Reply Like
  • stockferret
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    42% of republicans think the government should pay lost wages to the workers on the rig.

     

    Why is the hypocrasy of the republicans just not shocking anymore? The only time they want smaller government is when government helps the poor colored folks...
    15 Jul 2010, 10:53 AM Reply Like
  • sladd
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    Obama is so far off base on this, and so distracted by his poor management decisions we are in deep trouble as a nation. His advisors share the same brain and ideology.

     

    Plain and simple - he is incompetent, inexperienced, unqualified, and a horrible President. Unfortunately, the Oconomy will suffer until he leaves office <gulp> two years from now!
    15 Jul 2010, 10:55 AM Reply Like
  • herbert hoover
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    Tell us how you really feel.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:01 AM Reply Like
  • Spin
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    Lets see. The regulations didn't work, because the companies valued profits over compliance. The regulators failed, because they did not do their job - probably, a little political interference. Washington's solutions still miss the mark and leave us vulnerable to foreign interests. GHUA
    15 Jul 2010, 11:03 AM Reply Like
  • cbftstorm
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    The plane crash analogy is ridiculous. The ripple effect of this spill can not be compared to an event like a plane crash, but, if we are going to use it then lets do it correctly.

     

    If the plane crashed due to some mechanical failure that is inherent in all planes then yes you ground all of the planes until it the issue is corrected in all of the planes.

     

    The ban on deepwater drilling only impacts a fraction of the offshore drilling platforms, which most Americans don't understand so the poll is misleading. But, to stick with the analogy, if the oil rigs are being constructed haphazardly and spills are more likely to occur then the issues with the construction of the rigs should be checked. BP is notorious in its violations of safety rules and regulations and taking shortcuts to reach their goals. If a ban is to be in place it should be focused on BP and reviews of its rigs should be done to make sure they are not purposefully endangering their workers and our environment.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:13 AM Reply Like
  • Speakeasy
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    A story that appeared on Fox News on 6/1/10 was ignored by the rest of the media (perhaps why Fox is so demonized by liberals) reported that the seven engineering experts (recommended by Ntl Academy of Engineering) to advise Obama on offshore drilling saftey - where upset that Interior Secretary Ken Salazar had modified their report after they signed. The modification inserted by Salazar was a moratorium on drilling which these experts claimed they had not recommended!

     

    In fact, they thought that halting drilling was a bad idea because the explosion occurred while the well was being shut down - an event that is much more dangerous than ongoing drilling - and the fact that floating rigs are scarce and would not sit idle in the gulf but be sent elsewhere around the world. The most advanced rigs would be the first to go, leaving us with the outdated crap!

     

    O's administration has an agenda - this is why they dragged their feet in the cleanup efforts and halted efforts by others with all sorts of excuses. They want cap & tax and yes we will be another Venezuela (where my Venezuelan friends tell me people are starting to experience hunger while food rots in warehouses) or another Cuba where similar events take place - Castro and his cronies are rich and do not experience any of the lack of basic goods that his "liberated" populace experience.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:20 AM Reply Like
  • Cincinnatus
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    Speakeasy, this was also reported here on SeekingAlpha as well. The experts the Obama administration consulted were against this as in the long-term this moratorium will result in less advanced technologies and more inexperienced crews being in the Gulf. The Obama sycophants here just don't care, it's all about keeping "The Agenda" moving forward - the environment and safety be damned.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:44 AM Reply Like
  • Speakeasy
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    Hopefully, Americans will wizen up and recognize that they are kept in the dark by their national mainstream media. They give more coverage to Sarah Palin's daughter's engagement or Mel Gibson & Tiger Wood's personal lives to entertain the Joe and Mary sixpaks, while the real newsworthy events are not reported.
    USA is like the bull in the bull fighting ring that is bled to death slowly and at the right is finished off by the matador.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:32 AM Reply Like
  • Duude
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    65% of Democrats from this poll think the ban is wrongheaded. That tells it all.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:37 AM Reply Like
  • zorrow
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    This is the question they asked in the poll according to their methodology blib. "Do you think the spill proves off-shore drilling is just too dangerous and should be banned in U.S.
    waters, or was this a freak accident and offshore drilling can be made safer and should not be banned?
    23 Just too dangerous
    73 Was a freak accident
    4 Not sure

     

    How do you draw the conclusion that "Nearly 75% of Americans oppose Obama's ban on deepwater drilling in the Gulf, viewing the BP spill as a "freak accident" rather than the result of pushing the energy exploration envelope to find cheap oil, according to a Bloomberg poll. The general perception: "If there’s a plane crash, you don’t ground all the airlines and stop flying completely." from that question and answer. It seems even more of a stretch when you read the other questions and answers for context that were asked about BP and the spill that were asked in the poll. Yeah if deep water drilling can be made safe, it shouldn't be banned forever, that's logical but that's not the conclusion the Blomberg's pro drilling PR wants you to believe is "the consensus" of American opinion.
    15 Jul 2010, 11:40 AM Reply Like
  • davidbdc
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    I think most Americans (myself included) realize that there is a large impact to the economies of the gulf states if there is a widespread slowdown of drilling in the Gulf. We also understand that these are very good paying jobs that can't be found elsewhere for the people working the rigs.

     

    So while I want the bureau responsible for oversight to be revamped, and to start enforcing the regulations..... I don't want us to cut off our nose to spite our face.

     

    Life doesn't come with guarantees. Accidents do happen. And yes its likely there were poor decisions and actions that contributed to this accident. And thats not acceptable. But I think its foolhardy to believe that because one company (BP) may have cut corners or safety procedures, that all companies are doing the same. And lets face the fact that the government's response to this was poor - just like it was with Katrina. It might tell us something. Governments are inefficient by nature and should be relied on to provide only those things that we as individuals cannot - like NASA, armies, Interstate highways, etc.

     

    If its true that this bureau was rubber stamping all applications for drilling, then lets set up an accelerated review of all the applications over the past year and identify any concerns. Stop those applications that raise concerns from continuing to drill. Allow those with no concerns to continue.

     

    Most Americans are pretty reasonable people........ its too bad our politicians and elected representatives aren't.
    15 Jul 2010, 12:06 PM Reply Like
  • Wyatt Junker
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    I think the oil spill has been a net positive for the O'hole.

     

    Its taken the spotlight off the $14 trillion dollar money leak on the Fed's B. sheet, not including the $70 trillion SS shortfall.

     

    As long as the government can keep your eye off the real problem, they win.

     

    Reminds me of a Sugar Ray Leonard wind-up bolo punch. The stupid, easily knocked out always look at the rotating arm. Not the pulled back right death blow that in the end will K you TFO.

     

    O'mama needs the rubbernecker class to direct traffic down another street than the one he's on. He loves a docile electorate. Its easier that way.
    15 Jul 2010, 03:51 PM Reply Like
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